Apple News From WWDC and iPhone 5 Rumors 683
First time accepted submitter zer0point writes "Apple has just announced the next-generation Macbook Pro with a retina display. Starting today you can also order a MacBook Pro upgraded with Ivy Bridge CPUs, and Nvidia graphics. Mountain Lion got some various updates, and as expected iOS 6 was announced. In rumor news, KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo wrote in a note to investors, 'Based on the release schedule for iOS 6 GM, there is a very good chance iPhone 5 will start shipping also in early September.'"
Re:So what? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Retina Display is good and all, but... (Score:5, Informative)
The point of the "retina display" resolution is that everything is doubled. 2880x1800 is going to work effectively like 1440x900. Fonts are rendered at twice the size, images are twice the size, etc.. You're not going to be looking at tiny windows with tiny fonts, you're going to be looking at normal sized windows with normal sized fonts that look much smoother - almost print like. The higher resolution just allows much more detail.
Shut up and take my money! (Score:5, Informative)
I mean, it's a bit expensive ($2199 in stock configuration), but how can you look at these five lines:
2880x1800 resolution screen (this is insane)
256 GB solid-state hard drive
2.3 GHz quad-core Intel i7
8 GiB memory
7-hour battery life
and not want one?
Re:Nice specs...but.... (Score:5, Informative)
Mac's hold their value so well that its better to sell and buy a new Mac than to keep and treasure a computer for many years and upgrade it
Re:More Rumors (Score:5, Informative)
Personally, I don't think Apple will let a numeric inconsistency like "iPhone 5 released with iOS 6" stand.
They let the iPhone 3G come out with iOS 2 and the 4S ship with iOS 5. That said, I do agree that they're likely to simply drop the numbering.
Yes and no (Score:4, Informative)
So no in the strict sense, OS-X is still resolution dependent, it doesn't have true independent scaling like Windows 7 does. However yes in the sense of this device in that it uses the HiDPI pixel doubling trick of the iPad.
So this screen is precisely double a 1440x900 screen, which is a pretty normal mid-rez 15" screen. What happens is if apps are flagged as HiDPI aware, they get presented with the real resolution and can render things with more detail. If not, they are presented with quarter resolution and all pixels are doubled in each direction.
So it solves the problem in sort of a sidelong manner. It works since Apple maintains control over the hardware and thus can say "screens will be available in the following resolutions".
Re:Shut up and take my money! (Score:2, Informative)
http://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs/
Memory: Configurable to 16GB.
Storage: Configurable to 768GB flash storage.
Re:ethernet dongles (likely at added cost on $2k+) (Score:5, Informative)
On the store now. $29.
That's hardly going to break the budget for a top of the line $2,199 laptop buyer.
Re:No Classic or Rosetta (Score:2, Informative)
Apple has abandoned Classic and Rosetta so now there is a tremendous amount of software, and the data accessed by said software, that can't run on the new machines.
If you cared about legacy support you should have gone with Microsoft instead.
Re:ethernet dongles (likely at added cost on $2k+) (Score:4, Informative)
I have a Macbook Air and I bought the USB-to-Ethernet dongle. I never used it. I can see it being essential for some people, but certainly not for everyone. Apple can't be everything to everyone.
Re:mac pro only got a small bump (Score:5, Informative)
He's talking about the red-headed step child of the Mac line: the Mac Pro. Mac Pro is still stuck in USB2 land. I think it's outrageous they're marketing it as "new". It's 3+ year old technology at $2500 base price for 4 cores.
Re:Retina Display is good and all, but... (Score:4, Informative)
Which is to say, in response to GP's actual question - the text size will be exactly the same as the older MacBook Pro, and it will still not be adjustable. So if it's too small for you today, it'll remain too small. No resolution independence is coming.
OS X: if you can't see shit, your vision is not good enough for Apple products.
Re:ethernet dongles (likely at added cost on $2k+) (Score:2, Informative)
Rather than retyping it, I will refer you to these two (rather short and sweet) posts.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2908871&cid=40288291 [slashdot.org]
WHat you can get for $480 and 800 these days in the PC worlds.
Trouble is, even the best of the laptops you list there has a much worse spec than the new MBP. Slower CPU, same standard RAM, but yours not expandable beyond 8GB. Apple 512GB SSD vs your old 500GB HD. You do know what an SSD is don't you?
And thats only the very basics.
Thus your link proves that what you said was indeed bullshit.
Anyway, enough of this shit. There's always a cheapskate who has no sense of quality who tries these stupid comparison, every time Apple releases a new groundbreaking computer. And it's like whac-a-mole. Prove them wrong on one computer comparison, and they'll go away, and pop up later with yet another failed attempt. I've better things to do. The WWDC keynote video is up now. I'd rather watch that than waste time with this nonsense.
Re:Is it truly expensive? (Score:2, Informative)
From experience, non-AA graphics on a retina display can reveal individual pixels and display stairstepping. The retina display is just barely beyond the limit of human perception in the average case; we can still distinguish some types of finer details under ideal circumstances so AA still has a reason to exist.
Re:No Classic or Rosetta (Score:4, Informative)
after the technology no longer serves a majority of their users.
Like an ethernet port?
Actually, probably yes. I make more use of Ethernet than most people I know, and I still only use it once or twice a month.
Seriously, you think all that non-replaceable-battery thing was because they decided that replacing batteries no longer served the majority of their users?
No, the "non-replaceable battery thing" was because they could nearly double the battery life of the computer without sacrificing power. Considering that I just replaced the (removable) battery in my 2008 MBP, not because it was running low but because it was defective and bulging (they gave me a new one free), I don't think most people run the life out of their batteries. Even if you lost half the capacity, you'd still be better off than a new removable battery.
Re:Snow Leopard compatibility? (Score:2, Informative)
As a general rule of thumb, new Macs never ever supports older versions of the OS than the version they shipped with. This goes down to the dot-version, so if it shipped with 10.7.4 it probably doesn't even boot 10.7.3.
Re:ethernet dongles (likely at added cost on $2k+) (Score:2, Informative)
and you don't have to worry about it anymore.
Right, I just have to worry about breaking the dongle and possibly the port now.
One of the things I like about my macbook pro (and that i actively look for in laptops) is that there is nothing sticking out of it to catch on things and break.
A dongle sticking out of a usb port 24x7 is just begging to get completely wrecked.
Re:10,000 feet? (Score:5, Informative)
The cabin pressure of a typical commercial flight is 8,000 ft or below, even though you're at 35,000. So it'll work just fine.
10,000 just seems to be the standard everyone who isn't making ruggedized parts bothers to test to. I doubt it'd fail catastrophically at 10,001 or even 15,000.