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Zuckerberg: Apple 'Hasn't Invented Anything Great in a While' 26

Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg criticized Apple's innovation record and business practices in a Joe Rogan podcast interview on January 10, claiming the iPhone maker has not "invented anything great in a while" and is "just sitting" on its flagship product 20 years after Steve Jobs created it.

Zuckerberg accused Apple of using arbitrary App Store rules and 30% developer fees to offset declining iPhone sales. He also said Apple blocks competitors from accessing iPhone protocols, citing Meta's failed attempt to integrate its Ray-Ban smart glasses with Apple's connectivity features. The Meta chief also criticized Apple's $3,500 Vision Pro headset, calling it inferior to Meta's $300-400 device.

Zuckerberg: Apple 'Hasn't Invented Anything Great in a While'

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  • TLDR (Score:5, Insightful)

    by martin-boundary ( 547041 ) on Friday January 10, 2025 @08:30PM (#65079795)
    Z: Whine, whine, whine, why do people give their money to Apple instead of me? Their products are poor and overpriced compared to mine, and I have the most biggly best products from last year anyway!
    • Never the less it's true. Even the Apple fanboys are whining that the current iPhone is nothing remarkable.

      The base Mac Mini does seem popular, but how much rah-rah can you do over a new case? And the penny pinching CEO still has base storage at 256GB when the mini PC competition comes with a TB and many of them have a slot for a second NVME.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 10, 2025 @08:34PM (#65079799)

    Fuck Joe Rogan, fuck Zuckerberg, and fuck Tim Cook

  • by DaveyJJ ( 1198633 ) on Friday January 10, 2025 @08:35PM (#65079801) Homepage
    WhatsApp? Acquisition. Oculus? Acquisition. Instagram? Acquisition. Facebook, sure, but you stole a lot of the UI/UX idea for other social platforms. Z is an idiot.
  • by gavron ( 1300111 ) on Friday January 10, 2025 @08:36PM (#65079803)

    What did Zuck invent? A forum where people can post? In the 1980s that was called Usenet.
    No moderation? Usenet.
    No fact checking? Usenet.
    Sucking up to politicians - that's been around since before ancient Greece.

    What exactly ANYTHING USEFUL TO HUMANITY has Mark Zuckerberg done?

    Oh he bashed Apple. That's been a thing for 45 years also.

    Fuck Zuck.

    • by topham ( 32406 ) on Friday January 10, 2025 @09:27PM (#65079893) Homepage

      He invented a platform that would allow him to steal passwords and use it to log into peoples accounts to try and manipulate them.

      Cuz he wanted to get laid.

    • What did Zuck invent? A forum where people can post? In the 1980s that was called Usenet.

      Sharing data on friends and family
      Cambridge Analytica
      Spying for device makers
      Converting Whatsapp from a privacy company to an advertizing partner
      Using race and sexual orientation to limit housing options

      What exactly ANYTHING USEFUL TO HUMANITY has Mark Zuckerberg done?

      oh.. wait a second. You thought he meant useful products for consumers, like "innovating" heart monitors into the consumer's watches to save their lives. Oh dear, naive, child. Zuckerberg is talking about important valuable things like interfering with elections and controlling the serfs (us).

      Fuck Zuck.

      At least you go

  • by SeaFox ( 739806 ) on Friday January 10, 2025 @08:42PM (#65079811)

    He built a website that was largely just a hyper-targeted version of existing social networking services (and then blew that away in the pursuit of raw subscriber growth and adverting opportunities).
    He bought, did not invent, his VR platform ...and his photo-sharing platform ...and his real-time communication platform...

    Everything else has been enshitifiction since then.

  • And? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by fuzzyfuzzyfungus ( 1223518 ) on Friday January 10, 2025 @08:52PM (#65079827) Journal
    I'm honestly curious(though only idly; his whining is at best incidentally related to his beliefs rather than his interests; and those are what we have to worry about) whether Zuck genuinely overestimates his own level of invention by that much; or whether he fails to understand that, thanks the the illustrious standards of the industry, succumbing more slowly to the temptation to fuck up your own product because it's more profitable that way more slowly than the competition does has basically replaced 'progress' or 'invention' in contemporary consumer tech.

    Apple certainly isn't immune to the rot; so long as you need a good 'services revenue story' at every earnings call you aren't going to loosen the screws or raise the standards in the app store; or look too closely at how much of your business is basically payment processing for children's casinos; but they seem to be succumbing to it more slowly than most; certainly more slowly than either their direct competitors or facebook are.

    Back when consumer tech was still dominated by big, obvious, refinements and massive reductions in cost; rather than somebody fucking up the UI in new and hostile ways a couple of times a year, it was a lot easier to talk about 'invention' with a straight face.
  • by atomicalgebra ( 4566883 ) on Friday January 10, 2025 @08:58PM (#65079841)

    He never had any good ideas. He implemented other people’s ideas and profited from it due to being unscrupulous. Don’t pretend he is some kind of creative gen.

    Objectively, Apple's vision pro does things better than oculus(which zuck bought). No VR set will be marketing competitive until the can work in a device that weighs no more than a pair of glasses.

    He is just attempting to distract from being the orange traitors bitch.

  • Apple hasn't really invented much of anything ever. Innovated, sure. But they haven't uniquely invented pretty much anything.

    • Their jam is turning impressive technical achievements into products regular people want to use, and they do it better than just about anyone.

  • by migos ( 10321981 )
    Blame it on DEI why don't you Zuck. I dare you to call Tim Apple DEI hire.
    • by aergern ( 127031 )

      If Zuck did ... it would be interesting if Apple just did a hostile take over and bought that POS to shut it down.

  • And myspace 2.0 doesn't count.
  • My god, these billionaires are such whiny bitches and I, for one, am beginning to believe they are actually detrimental to a functional society. I'm tirec of them buying the control of our government and thinking they should play a fundamental role in its operations instead of just accepting the millions in tax cuts republicans want to throw at them and shutting the fuck up.

    • > I, for one, am beginning to believe they are actually detrimental to a functional society.

      They absolutely are. The more concentrated power gets (and money IS power), the fewer restraints there are against malicious actions. At the same time, that money insulates them from the criticism that helps keep people on an even keel and gives them self-control. Power corrupts, and billionaires are getting pretty close to having absolute power and being absolutely corrupted.

      If you have the faintest ability to

  • Zuckerberg: Apple 'Hasn't Invented Anything Great in a While'

    Kettle meet Pot.

  • That's rich coming from zuck, who tripped over some right-place right-time success in the 00's but bought everything since then. He's never demonstrated any vision, talent or principles, just an ability to spend money.

    And now shamelessly bending over for the orange idiot. The hair and ridiculous chain aren't fooling anyone.

  • Which company succeeds in wasting more of our time, Apple or Facebook? That is absolutely the primary goal of the latter, and a big driver of profit for the former as well. It sounds like he's just trying to claim that they could waste even more of our time if Apple wasn't so mean and blocking some of their efforts to do so on a very specific market.
  • Ever since he's been hiding that out of wedlock kid he had with one of the staff before he got married, he hasn't done much either.

    Or so I've heard.

  • LOL. And FakeBook hasn't invented anything. Never. Ever.

It's a naive, domestic operating system without any breeding, but I think you'll be amused by its presumption.

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