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Apple Brings ChatGPT To Its Apps, Including Siri (techcrunch.com) 49

Posted by msmash from the how-about-that dept.
Apple is bringing ChatGPT, OpenAI's AI-powered chatbot experience, to Siri and other first-party apps and capabilities across its operating systems. From a report: "We're excited to partner with Apple to bring ChatGPT to their users in a new way," OpenAI CEO Sam Altman said in a statement. "Apple shares our commitment to safety and innovation, and this partnership aligns with OpenAI's mission to make advanced AI accessible to everyone." Soon, Siri will be able to tap ChatGPT for "expertise" where it might be helpful, Apple says. For example, if you need menu ideas for a meal to make for friends using some ingredients from your garden, you can ask Siri, and Siri will automatically feed that info to ChatGPT for an answer after you give it permission to do so. You can include photos with the questions you ask ChatGPT via Siri, or ask questions related to your docs or PDFs. Apple's also integrated ChatGPT into system-wide writing tools like Writing Tools, which lets you create content with ChatGPT -- including images -- or ask an initial idea and send it to ChatGPT to get a revision or variation back. Apple said ChatGPT within Apple's apps is free and data isn't being shared with the Microsoft-backed firm. ChatGPT subscribers can connect their accounts and access paid features right from these experiences, the company said.

Apple Intelligence -- Apple's efforts to combine the power of generative models with personal context -- is free to Apple device owners but works with "iOS 18" on iPhone 15 Pro, macOS 15 and iPadOS 17.
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  • Excellent. So by the sounds of this? Now when Siri fails to find an answer, it will automatically pipe the question off to ChatGPT, to get a completely sincere, but absolutely made-up answer instead. I can see the appeal. It's like having a kid brother on-board that's really good at telling stories, but rarely do those stories resemble anything that actually happened. I may not have the answer, but I promise you, my kid brother will. Let's ask him!

    • So it's much worse than it looks.

    • Excellent. So by the sounds of this? Now when Siri fails to find an answer, it will automatically pipe the question off to ChatGPT, to get a completely sincere, but absolutely made-up answer instead. I can see the appeal. It's like having a kid brother on-board that's really good at telling stories, but rarely do those stories resemble anything that actually happened. I may not have the answer, but I promise you, my kid brother will. Let's ask him!

      It will offer to invoke ChatGPT. AFAICT, You have to give Permission Each Time.

      Hard to be more Careful and still Integrate the Capability.

  • It's like the 5th story about Apple, and of course the day couldn't be complete without a heavy dose of fucking AI new on top.

    I thought this was news for nerd and stuff that matters. Right now, it's MacRumor and unending OpenAI nausea.

    • Re: Wow Slashdot is really going down (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Jeremi ( 14640 ) on Monday June 10, 2024 @03:45PM (#64539091) Homepage

      Would it destroy your ego to find out that for many people, news about Apple meets both of Slashdot's canonical criteria?

      There are a lot of nerds out there using Apple products to get their jobs done, so news from/about Apple matters to them.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by dgatwood ( 11270 )

      It's like the 5th story about Apple, and of course the day couldn't be complete without a heavy dose of fucking AI new on top.

      If you don't want to see that, maybe you should skip Slashdot on the week of Apple's Worldwide Developer Conference (WWDC).

      • They should probably skip slashdot all together, to be honest. Apple and AI are both tech topics. They are both extremely important topics if you want to understand tech writ large. Even if you absolutely hate them both, it would be foolish to ignore them.

        • They should probably skip slashdot all together, to be honest. Apple and AI are both tech topics. They are both extremely important topics if you want to understand tech writ large. Even if you absolutely hate them both, it would be foolish to ignore them.

          Indeed.

          This WWDC was even of such Interest to the General Public, that every single News Program had a Report on it; which is not often the case.

    • When Google held Google I/O, we saw multiple Google stories in short order for most of the week. When Microsoft held Build, we saw Microsoft stories heavily featured on the Slashdot front page.

      This week is Apple's WWDC - so you should expect the same.

    • It's like the 5th story about Apple

      It's almost like there's a major Apple event on right now. One that Slashdot has covered since... well since UIDs were a whole order of magnitude lower than yours, that's for sure. Heck there were multiple Apple stories covered from WWDC back in the year 2000, a quarter of a century ago.

      Maybe it's your old age but if you think this is a sign of Slashdot "going down" it's only because you can't actually remember how Slashdot was in the past.

    • If this was "stuff that matters", your postings would be deleted automatically.

  • Why? You're certainly not running ChatGPT on the phone...

    Is there an actual, legitimate reason for this? (not that Apple hasn't artificially restricted new features to new devices before)

    • It is apparently a: yes/no.

      Yes part;

      Apparently some tasks are run on local device and only more demanding things are sent out.

      Combine that with the fact that Apple has for a long had very low memory ammounts in their devices, making it hard to fit in tasks.

      No part:

      Of course apple could adjust what tasks are local based on the device, but apple wants you to buy their most expensive products..

      But overall it is a attempt to get on the AI bandwagon without having to pay a lot on server costs. Both tasks localal

      • It is apparently a: yes/no.

        Yes part;

        Apparently some tasks are run on local device and only more demanding things are sent out.

        Combine that with the fact that Apple has for a long had very low memory ammounts in their devices, making it hard to fit in tasks.

        No part:

        Of course apple could adjust what tasks are local based on the device, but apple wants you to buy their most expensive products..

        But overall it is a attempt to get on the AI bandwagon without having to pay a lot on server costs. Both tasks localally and the limitation in number of qualifying devices are attempts at that.

        Apple is building Apple-Silicon-Based Datacenters, with Apple-Designed Server-Specific, SoCs(?), so they can pull this all In-House. That will allow them to essentially create a Hive Mind, with ZERO Data leaving Apple, and End-to-End Security and Anonymity such that their AI Farms will essentially become a Secure Amplifier of your On-Device Capabilities, without compromising Security or Privacy.

        Shipping Queries to ChatGPT, etc, is just a Stopgap to get their foot in the door. As pretty much every Presenter

    • There appears to be a scaled-down version of ChatGPT with on-device processing [apple.com], so it requires certain speed of the "neural engine" on the A17 chip and above, or an M1 chip and above in order to carry out most tasks on the device itself, especially when it's about personal data already on the device.

      When it's more generic, it then sends out a request to Apple servers (end-to-end encrypted) for larger language model.

      It's unclear exactly when ChatGPT comes into this, regardless, it asks user permission before

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by ruddk ( 5153113 )

      You also "need" an iPhone 15 Pro if you want to be able to set your phone only to charge the battery to 80% on a daily basis.
      Usually Apple BS

  • Honestly the announcements here are bizarre and confusing. How does this relate to Apple Intelligence? What is A.I. now in the iOS / Mac world? Are they the same thing? Are there two different products?

    Someone at Apple's marketing team needs to be fired. This has got to be the dumbest and confusing thing they've come up with.

    • Honestly the announcements here are bizarre and confusing. How does this relate to Apple Intelligence? What is A.I. now in the iOS / Mac world? Are they the same thing? Are there two different products?

      Someone at Apple's marketing team needs to be fired. This has got to be the dumbest and confusing thing they've come up with.

      Watch the WWDC Keynote. Apple nicely consolidated all the AI stuff into a kind of "One More Thing. . ." Presentation at the End of the Keynote. They covered how they Integrated AI into several Existing Frameworks and SDKs, so that many Applications would Automagically Grow AI Enhancements; as well as Published new SDKs for Developers to start leveraging Custom AI in their Apps/Applications.

      It's a quickie overview; with Details in the WWDC Workshops and new Developer Documentation; but you'll get the general

  • The whiner has spoken! (Score:3)

    by quonset ( 4839537 ) on Monday June 10, 2024 @04:54PM (#64539285)

    Musk to Ban Apple Devices If OpenAI Is Integrated Into OS [yahoo.com]. That pedo guy is whining of possible security issues if/when Apple does this even though he backed OpenAI.

    Of course this has nothing to do with his own faltering AI which will of course have free and open speech. Just like shitter. /s

  • Now I have to keep in the back of my mind if ChatGPT / AI is listening to everything the microphone can pick up vs just Siri :|
    ( Which I disable the moment I get the phone )

    Apparently it is too much to ask for a smartphone that has hardware level switches to disconnect / connect the:

    GPS antenna
    Microphone
    Cameras

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by drhamad ( 868567 )
      I mean... yes, it is too much to ask that. Because it's 2024, not 2004. Based on what Apple's saying, though, data is not accessible to 3rd parties and is mostly locally processed in the first place. But if you're not even using siri, none of this is relevant to you.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by bn-7bc ( 909819 )
      why deny yourself the utility of on phone satnav (Lets stop calling it GPS, the GPS constellation of satellites could go away tomorrow but most phones would still be able to get their position via the same chipset used with other GNSS satellites (Galileo, beidu etc)) whet the phone needs is an os that auto denyes acces to said position unless explicit permission is given on a per app basses.

  • Best though is... (Score:3)

    by sit1963nz ( 934837 ) on Monday June 10, 2024 @08:42PM (#64539745)
    Apparently Musk is throwing a temper tantrum and threatening to block all Apple products.

    PLEASE Elon...block everyone......let us smell what it's like when the must hits the fan...
  • "Hey Siri, put a chick in it, and make her gay!"

  • Here's a query that Siri cannot answer:
    "Hey Siri, what time is it?"

    There is a long delay followed by "I couldn't understand what time is it what time is it...here's something I found on the web: ...."

    Even Alexa can answer that. Siri has always been worse than "OK Google", and I have always been terribly disappointed and surprised by that. Even though Google was years ahead of Apple on having one, I always expected Siri to be better. But it turns out, now that I have an iPhone, Siri is dumber than fucking A

    • Huh? I literally just said "hey Siri what time is it?" at the iPhone sitting on my desk and got a response back of "it's 10:19" in about a quarter of a second.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by cstacy ( 534252 )

        Huh? I literally just said "hey Siri what time is it?" at the iPhone sitting on my desk and got a response back of "it's 10:19" in about a quarter of a second.

        Well, it no workie on my iPhone 13 Pro Max.

        Sometimes I can get Siri to give me some kind of an answer to some questions. Like asking about a nearby restaurant or something. Rather than speaking, she pops it up in text that I guess I am supposed to click on. But before I can react, the pop-up disappears in about 4 seconds, and the answer is gone.

        Fucking Useless.

        I suppose knowing that Siri doesn't work anyway is a net positive for me. I won't be asking any questions to which Siri will now be hallucinating Cha

        • Huh? I literally just said "hey Siri what time is it?" at the iPhone sitting on my desk and got a response back of "it's 10:19" in about a quarter of a second.

          Well, it no workie on my iPhone 13 Pro Max.

          Sometimes I can get Siri to give me some kind of an answer to some questions. Like asking about a nearby restaurant or something. Rather than speaking, she pops it up in text that I guess I am supposed to click on. But before I can react, the pop-up disappears in about 4 seconds, and the answer is gone.

          Fucking Useless.

          I suppose knowing that Siri doesn't work anyway is a net positive for me. I won't be asking any questions to which Siri will now be hallucinating ChatGPT nonsense.

          "Hey, Siri, what time is it?"
          "Eat Glue. Hillary Clinton was President in 2016."

          Just shut the fuck up.

          And FYI, Siri will Ask every single time it determines ChatGPT might help if you want to hand your Request to ChatGPT.

          So, Eat Glue, Hater.

    • Here's a query that Siri cannot answer:
      "Hey Siri, what time is it?"

      There is a long delay followed by "I couldn't understand what time is it what time is it...here's something I found on the web: ...."

      Even Alexa can answer that. Siri has always been worse than "OK Google", and I have always been terribly disappointed and surprised by that. Even though Google was years ahead of Apple on having one, I always expected Siri to be better. But it turns out, now that I have an iPhone, Siri is dumber than fucking Alexa. At least Alexa will give me the time and weather.

      Liar.

      Siri promptly and correctly answered with the Time, both vocally and with a Popup.

      Same with the Weather. Gave a nice concise little current conditions and forecast, accompanied by a Popup with additional Information.

      BTW, the Weather was one of the things Steve Jobs asked Siri Onstage at original Siri Demo.

      Oh, and this is on iOS 16; so no "New Siri" here. . .

  • It would have been nice if you could use your own preferred LLM to answer your questions.

  • to have a chat with it while driving or cooking. it is sort of like googling stuff back when google search was somewhat useful, just with your eyes and hands free.

  • imagine 10 years from now: apple consumers stop using their imagination to please even their close friends

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