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Lawmakers Question Apple Over Cancellation of Jon Stewart's Show (engadget.com) 98

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Engadget: A group of lawmakers from a House of Representatives committee wants Apple, like many Jon Stewart enthusiasts, to explain why its streaming arm abruptly canceled the talk show The Problem With Jon Stewart. The current affairs TV series hosted by Jon Stewart briefly made its debut on Apple TV+ in 2021 but its time on air ended when the show received the ax for a third season, reportedly due to "disagreements" over show topics.

According to Reuters, Lawmakers want to know if the show's coverage and criticism of China has anything to do with the show's cancellation. The government officials have asked Apple to speak on the issue by Dec 15, 2023. In a letter to the tech giant, the House members wrote that while Apple has the right to determine what content it deems appropriate for its platform, "the coercive tactics of a foreign power should not be directly or indirectly influencing these determinations." This effort is bipartisan, with members from both Republican and Democratic parties affiliated with the House of Representatives' Select Committee on Competition with the Chinese Communist Party.

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Lawmakers Question Apple Over Cancellation of Jon Stewart's Show

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  • apple better open up the app store before they are forced to allow side loading

  • by Shakrai ( 717556 ) on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @08:14PM (#64008463) Journal

    Now subpoena Jon Stewart, put him under oath, and let him tell his side of the story. Whatever NDA he may have with Apple does not extend to testimony before a Congressional Committee, and it's well trod ground for him (see his efforts for the 9/11 First Responder community)

    Seriously Apple, fuck all the way off for this. Fuck all the way for neutering AirDrop [theverge.com] to appease Winnie-the-Pooh. You are shooting yourselves in the foot to try and cling to a market you're going to eventually get kicked out of no matter how hard you bow before Winnie-the-Pooh. There is no future in China for any American business. You are alienating your US and EU customers while giving tons of ammunition to the regulators in Brussels and Washington that want to knock you down a peg. WTF? Does Winnie-the-Pooh have compromising photographs of Tim Cook?

    South Park [outsidethebeltway.com] called this years ago. Paramount didn't back out of airing that episode. What the actual fuck Cupertino?

    • Apple's business plan falls apart without China as a manufacturing partner. South Park and Paramount have basically no vested interest there.

      • by Shakrai ( 717556 )

        Apple already has plans to move that business out of China. If they did not they would be guilty of fiduciary negligence. The writing was on the wall BEFORE the trade war and COVID-19 supply chain disruptions. China is losing interest in being the world's factory. Even if they were not, geopolitics would destroy the relationship regardless of how much Winnie-the-Pooh dick Cupertino chooses to suck.

        I'm allowed, as an American, Apple customer, and AAPL shareholder to be pissed the fuck off by this. I'm

        • Eh, I don't think you're necessarily wrong to be angry about this but the thought that any other countries can fill the gap any time soon without Apple taking a big dent in revenue sounds like, at best, wishful thinking. I'm sure they're thinking about and maybe even paying lip service to the idea in certain European and South American circles, but having any concrete plans, that I'd doubt. My assumption here is they are playing it "safe" (as they see it) by pandering to China as hard as they can for as lon

          • by Shakrai ( 717556 )

            If I have to choose between an affordable iPhone when my current one dies and the 1st Amendment, that's not a terribly hard choice.

            I don't need to die solely on the 1st Amendment hill though. This is mind-numbingly stupid from a purely business perspective. Congress involving itself after news of this broke was a very predictable outcome. The EU already has an axe to grind against Apple, for both justified and (IMHO) unjustified reasons. This will give license to politicians on both sides of the pond,

        • As an American, AAPL shareholder and Apple consumer, I say "fuck Congress" on this one. Seriously mean...just fuck them.

          Good for Apple for making its decisions without regard to whether America or its govt like them.

          Oh, and fuck Congress.

    • Apple is banking on being in China after the CCP is gone. They're in power, but it's not absolute as their removal of COVID lockdowns after widespread public protest shows. Make no mistake, they are authoritarian and can and will destroy your life for some so-called greater good. The problem is that while they can jail and make examples of some people they can't do it to everyone and aren't so foolish to think that hell can't break loose and that the population won't recognize that they can't be punished an
      • by Shakrai ( 717556 )

        The CCP is not going to be gone within our lifetimes. The combination of techno-surveillance state, willingness to murder large numbers of their own people, and appeal to nationalism/foreign adventure is going to be extremely difficult to overcome.

        The sad fact of the matter is if you're willing to kill your own people in large enough numbers you can cling to power indefinitely. Look at Assad in Syria. He held on without a techno-surveillance state that could smother the rebellion in the crib. That's th

    • It's funny you should mention South Park, because it has been subject to censorship a few times. Mostly due to threats from Islamic extremists, IIRC.

      • by Shakrai ( 717556 )

        I was there. It was this [wikipedia.org] episode and its sequel [wikipedia.org], and for context, it occurred in the aftermath of this [wikipedia.org]. Retroactively, they quietly censored this old episode [wikipedia.org], and later these [wikipedia.org] two [wikipedia.org]. To this day they are not available on any of the streaming platforms that carry South Park. You can get them on DVD and of course the Seven Seas [thepiratebay.org] never censored them....

        I would have made a different choice in Viacom/Paramount's shoes, although, I understand why they made the decision they did. I wholeheartedly disagree with i

    • Now subpoena Jon Stewart, put him under oath, and let him tell his side of the story.

      To what end? Jon Stewart comes out and says something something banned because Winnie-the-Pooh asked Apple to, and then what? What do you hope to do with your information? Are you willing to tear up the First Amendment to force Apple to carry programming that they don't *want to* - for whatever reason they may choose?

      • by Shakrai ( 717556 )

        Nobody is forcing Apple to do anything except tell the truth. Congress can't force them to give Jon Stewart a platform. It absolutely can force them to reveal if they de-platformed him to appease an authoritarian foreign power. That is a legitimate use of the Congressional power of inquiry. Apple can reveal the answer to the question willingly, by answering the letter, or unwillingly after they receive a subpoena.

        • And do what? Again. What are you hoping to achieve other than wasting everyone's time? That's all this ultimately boils down to.

    • What the actual fuck Cupertino?

      What the actual fuck is the argument against an American corporation making a business decision to remove an American citizens content from their platform, within the United States of America?

      Jon may not like the decision. Probably hates it in fact. But he should respect their right to do so. If Free Speech isn't so free for most because consequences, then perhaps we should remember that Freedom extends to an American corporation too. The actual fuck here will be discussed in the next quarterly earnings

      • If Free Speech isn't so free for most because consequences, then perhaps we should remember that Freedom extends to an American corporation too.

        A corporation is a legal fiction. Words on a page. They never should have had any rights, period. Humans have rights, corporations are specifically legal fictions created to separate shareholders from responsibility for the actions they are profiting from. Humans need rights to free speech, Corporations do not. The one and only reason Corporations were given rights was so that they could make campaign contributions, and that has done direct damage to democracy. Giving rights to corporations is literally fas

        • If Free Speech isn't so free for most because consequences, then perhaps we should remember that Freedom extends to an American corporation too.

          A corporation is a legal fiction. Words on a page. They never should have had any rights, period. Humans have rights, corporations are specifically legal fictions created to separate shareholders from responsibility for the actions they are profiting from. Humans need rights to free speech, Corporations do not. The one and only reason Corporations were given rights was so that they could make campaign contributions, and that has done direct damage to democracy. Giving rights to corporations is literally fascism.

          Agreed, and a hell of a way to sum up just how far we've fallen.

          I was going to reiterate and clarify that corporations deal with the consequences of their speech via lost profits, but then I remembered Too Big To Fail setting legal precedent for Greed to abuse by socializing utter failure while Corruption capitalizes on executive bone-us bailouts funded by victim citizens.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      For some reason younger Americans all buy iPhones, and that is unlikely to change. Their home market is safe and they probably have those customers locked into their ecosystem for life. Problem is the market is saturated and not growing.

      On the other hand, the Chinese government just banned employees from using iPhones for official business, due to security concerns - basically retaliation for US sanctions on Huawei, questionable as iPhone security is. China is a huge and growing market for Apple, so they ar

    • Does Winnie-the-Pooh have compromising photographs of Tim Cook?

      China has over 3 times as many potential consumers. American consumers are skint, so, who cares about that market except as an afterthought to where the real money will come from.The USA is wearing no clothes and nobody seems to acknowledge it.

    • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

      Now subpoena Jon Stewart, put him under oath, and let him tell his side of the story. Whatever NDA he may have with Apple does not extend to testimony before a Congressional Committee, and it's well trod ground for him (see his efforts for the 9/11 First Responder community)

      Chances are it'll be like "We submitted some scripts to Apple, and Apple rejected a few of them, wanting changes".

      And now, as we know it, Jon refused to alter the scripts and cancelled the show. Or maybe Apple cancelled the show. Eithe

  • while Apple has the right to determine what content it deems appropriate for its platform, "the coercive tactics of a foreign power should not be directly or indirectly influencing these determinations."

    So members of the Republican-controlled House want to investigate if a company was coerced by a government in making its programming choices. Funny thing about that . . . [imgur.com]

    • Re:Oh really? (Score:5, Informative)

      by Entrope ( 68843 ) on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @09:07PM (#64008541) Homepage

      Is your argument that Congress shouldn't ask questions about that earlier incident?

      Or is your argument that it's okay when the White House censors media [nytimes.com]?

    • So members of the Republican-controlled House want to investigate if a company was coerced by a government in making its programming choices. Funny thing about that . . . [imgur.com]

      I hate dragging up the Disney thing in Florida yet again, but that pretty much fits too. Seems like it's only a problem worthy of Congress's attention when the government entity accused of meddling with a media company (because that government entity didn't like something the media company put out) happens to be named "China".

  • Congress is free to ask whatever questions they want. It's not necessarily government overreach and/or harassing corporations for not towing the political party line. It's about making sure that some foreign entity isn't exploiting loopholes in US trade, law, or financial influence to undemocratically undermine actual freedom of speech and silence critics.

    Like, if a US newspaper publishes a scathing expose on Saudi business dealings, and those Saudis sue that newspaper for whatever junk, made-up damages the

  • "the coercive tactics of a domestic or foreign power should not be directly or indirectly influencing these determinations."

  • The shows ratings were abysmally low, why does an excuse need to exist for the show's cancelation outside of the obvious?
    • by Shakrai ( 717556 )

      Because Apple didn't tell Jon Stewart his ratings sucked. They allegedly told him that he needed to be "aligned" with them on the subject of the PRC. I say 'allegedly' because it is based on leaks at this point. If that is not what happened Apple could have cleared it up weeks ago. Their silence speaks volumes.

      • Allegedly is the key word.

        Apparently people are too young to remember McCarthyism. Ironically, this isnâ(TM)t just an example of McCarthyism - this is a full on Red Scare all over again.

        There are a lot of parallels to the political language and tactics that are reminiscent of the Cold War. Perhaps we really arenâ(TM)t out of the 1950â(TM)s yetâ¦

        • by Shakrai ( 717556 )

          Oh please. That's a nonsensical comparison. You either know that or have only a surface level understanding of what McCarthyism was. When individual lives are being ruined for protected domestic political activities, let me know, no lives have been ruined here and the issue has 0% to do with domestic political activities. Fun fact, you can actually join the CPUSA [cpusa.org]. People might at you funny if you do but you aren't going to lose your job, find yourself hauled before a Congressional committee, or suffer

        • Of course this time the Republicans are trying hard to let the people forget their many failures by throwing some smoke and mirrors.
      • And even more amusingly, the House Committee that is making this request is chaired by none other than a politician from Wisconsin. History really doth repeat itself, 70 years later!

  • ...actually did balanced journalism & actually reported human rights violations, war crimes, anti-democratic threats, etc., around the world as they happen? That would mean that as well as reporting on alleged crimes by Russia's, China's, & Iran's govts, they also give the same quantity and type of coverage on Saudi Arabia's, Egypt's, Israel's, & Turkey's. E.g. if you're going to accuse the Russian govt of kidnapping children from Ukraine, ostensibly to "protect them", then we should expect simi
  • Politicians need to work on balancing the budget and other things, what a waste of time !!
  • ...clearly everything is so great in the Utopian States of America that THIS is what our FEDERAL lawmakers should be spending their time working on.

    Jesus fucking christ.

  • Why even bother asking the question?

    We've seen from past hearings that witnesses (Jack Dorsey, looking at you) can just bold face lie through their teeth and not a god damn thing will happen.

    I can't even begin recalling how many witnesses I've watch on CSPAN filibuster the questions by running out the time with irrelevant and unrelated non sequitur responses. There is no point to having hearings, or asking questions to an oppositional witness who does not wish to divulge information without some means
  • the show received the ax for a third season

    Nobody at engadget can spell "axe"

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