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Apple Releases iPhone Software Update To Fix Overheating Issue (bloomberg.com) 36

Apple rolled out a software update Wednesday to address an overheating issue that plagued some early buyers of the iPhone 15 Pro line. From a report: The update, called iOS 17.0.3, is available as an over-the-air fix in the software update section of the iPhone settings app. The release notes say the update "provides important bug fixes, security updates, and addresses an issue that may cause iPhone to run warmer than expected." The update was also released for older iPhones as well as iPads. Some early iPhone 15 Pro owners reported that their iPhone could get hotter than normal. Apple on Saturday blamed bad code in apps including Uber, Instagram and the Asphalt 9 racing game, in addition to a bug in the device's software. The company said the new device set-up could overwork the processor and lead to overheating.
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Apple Releases iPhone Software Update To Fix Overheating Issue

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  • I assume the update added an alert that says "Device is overheating, please hold it [this way] to prevent this message."
    • More like "move to a cooler climate." Seriously, try to use any recent-ish iPhone outdoors for any length of time somewhere with brutally hot summers (like most of the southern states) and it will overheat to the point where it starts dimming the display. Ever wonder why those phone holders that clip to your car's HVAC vents are a thing?

      • by Pascoea ( 968200 )
        In their defense, my Galaxy (9, I think) does the same thing. I was being tongue-in-cheek, but apparently the Apple fanboi Mods didn't like my joke. (Troll, seriously?)
      • by Shakrai ( 717556 )

        Ever wonder why those phone holders that clip to your car's HVAC vents are a thing?

        They're a thing for cars without Android Auto/Apple CarPlay. I don't know anyone with a car that supports either that still uses a vent clip. I ditched my vent clip once my old car aged out.

  • Theyve updated the firmware to lower the CPU throttling temp.

    • Theyve updated the firmware to lower the CPU throttling temp.

      Why would you guess that first? There's many parameters that affect CPU temperature without affecting performance. Heck earlier Ryzen chips had a nice little hack where lowering the CPU core voltage not only lowered the temperature but also *increased* single thread performance thanks to being able to stay in the boost regime longer before hitting thermal limits.

      CPUs are more complex than "slow down hot girl!"

      • Theyve updated the firmware to lower the CPU throttling temp.

        Why would you guess that first? There's many parameters that affect CPU temperature without affecting performance. Heck earlier Ryzen chips had a nice little hack where lowering the CPU core voltage not only lowered the temperature but also *increased* single thread performance thanks to being able to stay in the boost regime longer before hitting thermal limits.

        CPUs are more complex than "slow down hot girl!"

        Not to mention Software gets in the thermal game, too.

        In fact, I would be at all surprised if the fix was primarily some renice-ing to better balance the average load.

        And then there's the GPU...

      • by Anonymous Coward

        Why would you guess that first?

        Historical precedent.

        • Historical precedent points overwhelmingly to the opposite. If you think otherwise it's "historical ignorance".

  • Bad Engineers (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Bahbus ( 1180627 )

    For both software and hardware. Their hardware designs are trash because the phone should be much better at dissipating heat. And, no surprise there's bugs in iOS17 making the problem worse as they do not seriously test any of their releases in a realistic manner.

    • It compiles, ship it! has been a long standing saying; more so today than just a decade ago. This is how modern software engineering works. Maybe even the old software engineering worked the same way.

      Perhaps there is nothing new here. Also reducing power consumption (and thus overall computing power) resulting in a reduced performance than claimed at introduction is also nothing new.
    • by Shakrai ( 717556 )

      I'm curious boss, have you ever designed something as small/compact as a smartphone that has better cooling than current flagship models in either ecosystem? If it's so easy, why don't you patent your idea and make millions? I'm sure Apple/Google/Samsung would pay top dollar to license your as yet unreleased technology.

      Ditto software, you ever do any serious software engineering? You can beta test for months -- and Apple does, you can opt in [apple.com] if you want to live on bleeding edge -- and approximately five

      • I'm curious boss, have you ever designed something as small/compact as a smartphone that has better cooling than current flagship models in either ecosystem? If it's so easy, why don't you patent your idea and make millions? I'm sure Apple/Google/Samsung would pay top dollar to license your as yet unreleased technology.

        Ditto software, you ever do any serious software engineering? You can beta test for months -- and Apple does, you can opt in [apple.com] if you want to live on bleeding edge -- and approximately five seconds after you release your software to the wild users will find a way to break it you didn't anticipate.

        Armchair Engineering at its best!

        Every Engineering Problem is Simple, when you're Simple!

        Haters... (not you).

      • by Bahbus ( 1180627 )

        I'm curious boss, have you ever designed something as small/compact as a smartphone that has better cooling than current flagship models in either ecosystem? If it's so easy, why don't you patent your idea and make millions? I'm sure Apple/Google/Samsung would pay top dollar to license your as yet unreleased technology.

        I don't have to because there are plenty of designs out there in use today that don't have these problems to begin with.

        Ditto software, you ever do any serious software engineering? You can beta test for months -- and Apple does, you can opt in [apple.com] if you want to live on bleeding edge -- and approximately five seconds after you release your software to the wild users will find a way to break it you didn't anticipate.

        I understand this point very succinctly. However, these aren't users who are using the device or apps that Apple didn't anticipate. They're using them the same way they used their previous phones. iOS17 doesn't have any sort of crazy, complicated new features that people can use in wildly different manners. It's not a complete rewrite of the OS from the ground up. The company is lazy about

    • For both software and hardware. Their hardware designs are trash because the phone should be much better at dissipating heat. And, no surprise there's bugs in iOS17 making the problem worse as they do not seriously test any of their releases in a realistic manner.

      Oh, how little you know.

      Apple has been Distributing iOS 17 Betas to Developers since June 19th, and Public Betas since July.

      You know less than nothing about their Hardware designs, as evidenced by your ignorance about their Beta program.

      https://www.macrumors.com/2023... [macrumors.com]

      • by Bahbus ( 1180627 )

        Oh, how little you know.

        Apple has been Distributing iOS 17 Betas to Developers since June 19th, and Public Betas since July.

        You know less than nothing about their Hardware designs, as evidenced by your ignorance about their Beta program.

        This isn't serious testing. It's barebones, and lazy, at best.

        • Oh, how little you know.

          Apple has been Distributing iOS 17 Betas to Developers since June 19th, and Public Betas since July.

          You know less than nothing about their Hardware designs, as evidenced by your ignorance about their Beta program.

          This isn't serious testing. It's barebones, and lazy, at best.

          Wrong.

          It's field-testing; the most valuable kind. And of course that's only after all the internal lab-testing.

          Which you would know if you ever wrote a line of realtime embedded code.

          • by Bahbus ( 1180627 )

            Wrong.

            It's field-testing; the most valuable kind. And of course that's only after all the internal lab-testing.

            Which you would know if you ever wrote a line of realtime embedded code.

            You don't field test with end-users. You've already failed basic QA if you're doing that. Secondly, any internal lab-testing their doing is clearly not anywhere near up to snuff, or they aren't testing the right criteria to begin with. I don't know exactly what their problems are, I just know that they clearly have problems. Because the final products are garbage compared to the price they cost.

            As much as they may be able to help Apple uncover flaws, and I love being in betas to help report them myself:
            -App

            • Aren't you that fucking moron that thought AMD makes physical chips yesterday?

              • by Bahbus ( 1180627 )

                It's almost like /. has a feature where you can check someone's history of comments. Checking mine would show you that, no, I have no idea what you're talking about you fucking retard.

            • Wrong.

              It's field-testing; the most valuable kind. And of course that's only after all the internal lab-testing.

              Which you would know if you ever wrote a line of realtime embedded code.

              You don't field test with end-users. You've already failed basic QA if you're doing that. Secondly, any internal lab-testing their doing is clearly not anywhere near up to snuff, or they aren't testing the right criteria to begin with. I don't know exactly what their problems are, I just know that they clearly have problems. Because the final products are garbage compared to the price they cost.

              As much as they may be able to help Apple uncover flaws, and I love being in betas to help report them myself:
              -App developers are not real testers.
              -The general public are not real testers.

              Also, that is a very short beta to launch timeline for an OS. Probably part of the problem. Android beta starts in Feb and then launches Oct.

              And even if you want to discount all of that. How did these issues not come up in the beta? If they did, how come they weren't fixed sooner? If they didn't, what changed between the beta and official release that caused these issues? Why aren't there more technical details about this issue? Is the issue more prevalent on the new launch iPhones with the new iOS, or also occurring for those upgrading? Something about it is fishy. There aren't crazy differences in hardware version over version. Apple doesn't have multiple different manufactures doing different things. So, it shouldn't be hard to have a near flawless device. I'm not saying everyone would love it and it would do everything. Just that it shouldn't have any issues doing what it was designed to do. They're in control of the entire process start to finish, and yet, the quality that comes out from them, in reality, is no better than Samsung, who only really do the hardware.

              I'm sure you have it all figured out.

              If I were you, I'd give Craig Federighi a call and let them know you're available to take over Software QA for the mobile OS Department; because obviously, they need the help!

              And BTW, you let App Developers and the General Public the chance to indiscriminately bang on your Software precisely because they aren't "Testers"! They will, in their stochastic cast-of-thousands, inevitably stumble-upon a certain percentage of corner-cases and hidden bugs that no amount of "Test

              • by Bahbus ( 1180627 )

                If I were you, I'd give Craig Federighi a call and let them know you're available to take over Software QA for the mobile OS Department; because obviously, they need the help!

                Idiots who are bad at their job to begin with sure do love hiring people who are better than them. /s

                Lmao, and you can't even fucking read or think critically. You continue to rehash the same thing over and over that I already covered in my comments, but you completely ignored it. You haven't said anything new or substantial. You haven't made any points, valid or otherwise.

                • If I were you, I'd give Craig Federighi a call and let them know you're available to take over Software QA for the mobile OS Department; because obviously, they need the help!

                  Idiots who are bad at their job to begin with sure do love hiring people who are better than them. /s

                  Lmao, and you can't even fucking read or think critically. You continue to rehash the same thing over and over that I already covered in my comments, but you completely ignored it. You haven't said anything new or substantial. You haven't made any points, valid or otherwise.

                  So why do you continue with your social intercourse?

                  • by Bahbus ( 1180627 )

                    Oh, hey, you can do something new.

                    I'm not losing any sleep or time, so, feel free to keep going.

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