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Apple Discontinues iPod Nano and iPod Shuffle (macrumors.com) 151

From a report: Apple today removed the iPod nano and iPod shuffle from its website and online store around the world, suggesting the iconic portable media players may be discontinued. Apple continues to sell the iPod touch. Beyond new colors and storage capacities, Apple had last updated the iPod nano in October 2012 and the iPod shuffle in September 2010. Apple last updated the iPod touch in July 2015 with an 8-megapixel rear camera. Apple introduced the iPod shuffle in January 2005, followed by the iPod nano in September 2005. In total, there were seven generations of the iPod nano, and four generations of the iPod shuffle. The company has confirmed that it has discontinued the devices.
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Apple Discontinues iPod Nano and iPod Shuffle

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27, 2017 @12:53PM (#54892299)

    I googled for this and apparently "ipods" were things Apple provided for people to keep their music on until Steve Jobs had finished inventing the telephone.

    • by serviscope_minor ( 664417 ) on Thursday July 27, 2017 @02:10PM (#54893007) Journal

      Yeah but they were a load of rubbish.

      No wireless.

      Less space than a nomad.

      LAME.

    • Yeah, now I have to buy an expensive phone with way less room and use it instead. Sucks honestly. I don't need the phone bits. But at least it has a good camera. The one thing I was disappointed with in the iPod Touch was the neutered camera. Hard to find tablets with a good camera too. Not sure why they think only phones need them.

  • by Oswald McWeany ( 2428506 ) on Thursday July 27, 2017 @12:55PM (#54892317)

    More people would buy them if they removed the headphone jack. Maybe apple should try that.

    • I expect that to happen. About the time when Apple starts to make headphones with the iPod functions built into them.

      I can imagine a headset that takes voice commands for playing music, or taking notes, or whatever. It will double as a headset for an iPhone, or pair with another Apple device. If voice commands are impossible because of noise then use a small set of buttons on the earpieces, or use your phone to control it.

      Alternatively there will be enough headphones with Lightning connectors, or whateve

    • More people would buy them if they removed the headphone jack. Maybe apple should try that.

      Apple does not have the courage to do such a thing. Leave it to Samsung to remove the headphone jack, first.

  • by iamacat ( 583406 ) on Thursday July 27, 2017 @01:01PM (#54892369)

    That's probably the current way to listen to music with Bluetooth headphones and get lots of other functionality. If that's too expensive, there are also Android Wear/Samsung devices with similar functions. Technology moves on and MP3 players without WiFi are pretty clunky in 2017.

    • I bought a Fiio DAP last week exactly BECAUSE it doenst have wifi. It will never update, it will never change, it will eternally be the same interface. I want that.
    • My kids have iPod nanos because we wanted something with limited functionality. Small market for that, I suppose.
    • And if you really want something like an iPod shuffle, there's plenty of those on eBay. Not sure they can play AAC though. Some sellers do list AAC support but it comes from a Windows-only program that converts AAC into something else for the music player.

    • Technology moves on and MP3 players without WiFi are pretty clunky in 2017.

      Not to mention having less space than a Nomad. [slashdot.org]

      Totally lame.

    • MP3 players without WiFi are pretty clunky in 2017

      Requiring connectivity limits where you can use it and makes it a security liability once it's out of support.

      A player that can store music can work for decades if replacement batteries are available. If I could get my hands on a Classic with Flash storage and an easy to replace battery, I'm set for life. If I want to stream occasionally, I have my phone for that.

      • by iamacat ( 583406 )

        Market for gadgets to use for decades at the expense of convenience is too small for the likes of Apple. But I am sure it can be picked up by a niche company.

  • I have an old Nano and I still use it and I just love it. It's light, I can operate it without looking at it, have a great fabric case that clips to my shorts when I work out. If it would hold a charge and would always shut down when I tell it to it would be perfect. But Apple is still going to have to pry it from my cold, dead fingers.

    • But Apple is still going to have to pry it from my cold, dead fingers.

      Er what? No one from Apple is coming to your house to destroy your nano. Apple is simply not making or selling any new ones on their website. You can still get one at other retailers like BestBuy, Target, Walmart, Newegg, Amazon, eBay, etc.

      • No one from Apple is coming to your house to destroy your nano.

        You would think. [gizmodo.com]

        (Yes, I'm joking. Yes, I know there's a difference between an iPod nano and a prototype iPhone.)

  • Both of our kids had Shuffles. My son left his in his pocket and it went in the washing machine. Still worked after it came out of the dryer.
  • I use a shuffle and a nano at the gym. Unfortunately, I just ran the nano through the wash. I guess I should order a replacement before their gone.
    • by OzPeter ( 195038 )

      I use a shuffle and a nano at the gym. Unfortunately, I just ran the nano through the wash. I guess I should order a replacement before their gone.

      Several months ago I also ran my old, square nano through the wash as well. I replaced it with the current model but boy do I miss that old form factor. I had to buy a 3rd party case in-order to clip in on and even then I had to cut the case up to get decent access to the volume buttons.

  • I have the last three phones I used as daily drivers. One is the living room remote, another is the bedroom remote and yet another is a media player. There are simply too many devices that can do what these devices were purpose built to do. And they have more functionality.
  • With battery and storage technology improving these devices got small enough to put on a wrist band. Also, cell phones are not the luxury items they used to be and some are more capable than many low end laptops.

    The Apple Watch was considered a flop by many, I think Apple learned from that. Anyone remember the Apple Newton? That's just and early prototype of the current iDevices. They'll take their lessons from the Watch and iPod and come out with something new. I'm quite sure of that.

    With electronics

    • Actually in many senses the Newton was far ahead of our current smart phones.
      Especially in handwriting recognition, interaction of 'Apps', the software centered around a soup of objects, the programming language (Dylan).
      There are plenty of enthusiasts still using them, the prices on eBay are extreme.

    • by shess ( 31691 )

      With battery and storage technology improving these devices got small enough to put on a wrist band. Also, cell phones are not the luxury items they used to be and some are more capable than many low end laptops.

      So I can replace $150 worth of dedicated music player with $1000 worth of bluetooth headphones, a watch, and a phone? Sign me up!

      Though I guess I can't really fault Apple for dropping it. It's not their duty to support every random long-tail use case.

      • So I can replace $150 worth of dedicated music player with $1000 worth of bluetooth headphones, a watch, and a phone? Sign me up!

        No. If you already have invested $1000 in headphones, cell phone, and fancy watch then why spend another $150 on something to do what the other things you already own can do?

        Companies didn't stop making pagers because the competition made better pagers. They got out of that business because people got cell phones instead. What does an iPod Shuffle do for someone that likely already has an iPhone and/or Apple Watch? Even cameras and GPS units have the ability to play music now. The iPod Touch is so smal

        • Do people even wear a wristwatch any more?

          Yes [successstory.com].
          • I should have been more specific. Do people wear wristwatches as anything other than jewelry or status symbols?

            People can get a wristwatch that can keep time with incredible accuracy for less than $10. People obviously buy them since I can still see them for sale. What I don't see though are people wearing them. There's a very limited market for a watch as a mere timepiece. What there is a large market for are people that buy wristwatch like devices that are more jewelry than a time piece, or more of a

  • by Anonymous Coward

    I'm hopeful, since this would have been the perfect time to discontinue the Mac Mini if they had no intention of updating it.

    • Maybe they're waiting for next tuesday.

    • I'm hopeful, since this would have been the perfect time to discontinue the Mac Mini if they had no intention of updating it.

      Apple claimed in April that the mini was "Still a very important part of our product line-up."

      They also hinted at a redesigned mini. Look for something in 2018, to coincide with the new "modular" Mac Pro.

  • by Scorch_Mechanic ( 1879132 ) on Thursday July 27, 2017 @01:44PM (#54892765) Journal

    I have an iPod Nano (fifth generation). I use it almost entirely as a podcast device, and the built in FM tuner is nice when I'm walking somewhere and I want to listen to the radio (I listen to a lot of public radio). The thing holds decent charge and has a decent enough amount of space, allowing me to keep the space open in my phone and not use up charge on the same. It may a little cumbersome sometimes, but not very. I like it, and will continue to like it until it eventually dies an ignominious death.

    Then I'll probably replace it with something non-apple. iPods are nice, but expensive. This one was a gift.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Apple lost my custom for portable media players when they transitioned the Nano from a device with tactile controls to a touchscreen. I need to operate the device by touch more than I need to look at the screen and admire pretty icons.

  • by iampiti ( 1059688 ) on Thursday July 27, 2017 @01:59PM (#54892907)
    For me a screen is a pretty important thing in a music player but I guess some people don't care.
    Anyway, my reasons to still use an "MP3" player in 2017 are that: My smartphone doesn't have an FM radio, using the player I avoid draining the phone's battery, I dare carrying the player in situations/places that I consider too dangerous for the much more expensive phone.
    • Mine last saw heavy use when I was finishing my basement. Nice to have something with physical buttons so I could skip songs randomly without taking attention off of what I was doing. Screens are nice but you have to look at them to accomplish anything, which is only ideal most of the time...
    • Screens are something for a mammoth music collection. The iPod shuffle originally came with 512MB of RAM, barely enough to fit 2-3 albums. You didn't need a screen to select a song.

      It also had a pretty niche purpose. I owned one despite generally hating Apple devices (mainly to do with iTunes) and already having an MP3 player. It was DAAAAAMN light, and it was just a little clip. I don't think there was a more perfect device for jogging. I'm still not sure there is.

  • Pity. I was just thinking about how the iPod Nano could be the entry-level Apple Pay wallet you give your kids. Or made into a small phone for people who like small phones.
  • These niches were:

    1.) I want to do sports without having my phone on me, be as light as possible.

    2.) I want an iTunes capable device I can use while driving my car without looking at a screen, only by tactile and muscle memory feedback... (my particular use case)

    For these two niches, there was nothing like an iPod Shuffle. There are some chinese knock-offs that offer a similar formfactor, but not similar quality.

    Will be sorely missed.

    • My wife teaches spinning, and needs to keep all her music with her. The phone doesn't work because she can't tolerate a lock screen while teaching, and also doesn't want the "bing" of a text message or phone call coming in to be a distraction.

      The nano would have been perfect if it had more storage. She ended up just getting the touch and leaving it in airplane mode. Compromise, overpriced for her need, but it works ok.

  • "You don't have to do this." --various dead, to Anton Chigurh
  • I had a shuffle for many years until I replaced it. It was fantastic, mostly because it was so small and light. I'd just clip it to the back of my shirt collar when going for a run or out to do some gardening, and it was pretty much imperceptible.

    By contrast, smartphones tend to be upwards of 100g, or almost a quarter pound. That's enough weight that if you want to secure it to your person, you need to look at a special holder to do so. Pain in the butt.

  • Sure it's a pain to load music - the old school way from your iTunes music collection. But the combination of the Nano and in-ear bluetooth headphones is by far the least intrusive way of listening to music or podcasts when running. I find it odd those who strap on to their arm devices the size of a paperback to go for a run. The audio quality of the Nano is great, the battery life too and it can fit in anywhere. In the winter I just tuck the Nano into my glove negating the need for any sort of arm ban

  • For places like the gym or any place where your expensive phone could possibly be stolen or, could fall from your pocket and break. The advantages of these small light devices cant be understated as well Oh well I still have my Gen 1 iPod mini its easy to open and easy to service ill keep it going.

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