Apple Is Outdated, Says Chinese Conglomerate LeEco CEO (cnbc.com) 245
An anonymous reader shares an article on CNBC: Apple is "outdated" and losing momentum in China, billionaire entrepreneur Jia Yueting told CNBC in his first international television interview. "Apple only has individual apps. This was the right choice during the first generation of mobile net, when CPUs [central processing units] and the mobile network speeds were not fast enough," Jia said. "However now we're moving into the next era of mobile internet, these problems no longer exist. Moreover, having separate apps just means great obstacles in the user experience. We hope to break down these obstacles. One of the most important reasons [for slowing sales] is that Apple's innovation has become extremely slow," he said. "For example, a month ago Apple launched the iPhone SE. From an industry insider's perspective, this is a product with a very low level of technology... We think this is something they just shouldn't have done. [...] The Watch hasn't cut it. And they're looking at content on the services side, on the iTunes side. We'll see how that works out. But definitely they need something to drive the next leg of growth." In some other Apple news, the company is expected to announce its first quarterly year-over-year revenue decline since 2003 later today.
This guy is high on Chinese pollution (Score:3, Insightful)
What is this clown babbling about?
Re:This guy is high on Chinese pollution (Score:4, Funny)
They've now invented EmacsOS for mobiles and think it's going to make people happy.
Re:This guy is high on Chinese pollution (Score:5, Insightful)
It's simple - he wants to...
1) make a super-wrapper app of sorts where individual apps become mere features within his wrapper.
2) get a lot of attention by yapping about how the industry leader is "outdated" and that his naked money-grab is actually the new-shiny.
3) sell API access to his wrapper.
4) sucker some phone maker/carrier/etc into using his wrapper exclusively.
5) ???
6) Profit!
Of course, no mention is made as to what happens when his baby gets a security vuln , crashes (taking everything else with it), or otherwise isn't regularly updated by the carrier or maker (because seriously, outside of a few corner cases involving flagship phones, when was the last time a carrier or maker ever bothered posting/pushing updates to an Android device?)
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Didn't Microsoft try this years ago with Microsoft Bob? Big portal, just click on different parts of the room to access certain functions..... we know how that went over.....yawn.
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Arguably, Google Now is trying to achieve something similar with cards that tie-in to existing apps. It's not a bad idea but I think -- as with most things out of China -- there's a lot of ambition without appreciation for just how much effort and expertise it takes to get it working right.
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"Variations on this idea keep coming up."
One of Apple's own best-loved consumer-level scripting systems, now abandoned, was Hypercard.
Re:This guy is high on Chinese pollution (Score:4, Insightful)
Well lets consider history for a moment. When the IPhone first came out there was no provision for third party native apps. The idea was it was all going to be essentially HTML5 + JS + [some custom Apple extensions]. Sure 'Apps' might run locally and be sourced from local storage but clearly the reason behind a design choice like that was to stage a move further in the direction this guys is proposing where apps are more cloud based. Guess what it turned out developers did not like and neither did consumers.
There was a lot to like about the iphone in terms of hardware compared to what came before. Honestly it survived on the strength if its large, easy to use touch screen. Had it not been for that it would have flopped hard and iPhone would not even be a thing today. Apple saw the problem though and quickly and correctly did an about face, allowing developers to deliver fast, high functioning ObjC apps.
This will be DOA because its not going to come with cool hardware we did not have before.
Re:This guy is high on Chinese pollution (Score:5, Insightful)
Honestly it survived on the strength if its large, easy to use touch screen
And it was the first phone that made browsing the web un-miserable.
Re:This guy is high on Chinese pollution (Score:5, Informative)
Actually in Asia its very common to have a single super app rather than a dozen. One app will be your messaging, shopping, mobile pay, taxi hailer, etc. THey go in for all-in-one over there. So far the US and EU haven't followed suit.
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Re:This guy is high on Chinese pollution (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't disagree with you, but that's not how the asian market has developed. And there's definite desire by big US corps to move in that direction- look at how facebook now has a payment option. We'll see how it goes.
Re:This guy is high on Chinese pollution (Score:5, Insightful)
What is this clown babbling about?
He thinks the most profitable company in the world should stop what they are doing and do things his way instead.
Re:This guy is high on Chinese pollution (Score:5, Interesting)
The outsourcing movement has a couple more decades of rubber band-like hysteresis. Most companies that send technical services out to Chennai or Bangalore save their short term cash for 2-4 years, pay the CEO and CIO their bonuses, and then bring them back to the US as soon as they can get out of the contracts they've signed.
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What many people here seem to be unaware of is that his company really is far ahead of Apple. Look no further than his choice of wardrobe [cnbc.com] when he made these comments. Apple would never do that [soyacincau.com]. Thought leaders, that company! Mark my words!
Frosty (Score:2)
Did anyone else see the headline on a burgundy/red background for second?
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Tell it to Michael Dell (Score:3, Insightful)
The comments are about as logical and as coherent as his were.
Re:Tell it to Michael Dell (Score:5, Insightful)
I had quite a hard time following why Apple is outdated, because of individual apps. Did he find a way to SECURELY have apps communicate with each other, without allowing rogue apps to mess with their phone?
Not to sound like an Apple Fan Boy but Apple had a rather good (Not Perfect) security record with the iPhone and Apps. But there hasn't been too many wide scale problems much like how we have with PC's. A big part of this is the isolated infrastructure of the apps.
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lack of security is considered a feature in their eco system :-)
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Possibly, but we're not billionaire CEOs of a Chinese tech company.
The bar is set a little higher for him to make sense than we are.
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Michael Dell is worth 19 Billion apparently... Maybe its something about money like that that lets you say assinine shit and have people take you seriously. I'm afraid I will never know.
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"Maybe its something about money like that that lets you say assinine shit and have people take you seriously."
When you are powerful you say the thing that you want to be true as if it already were, and maybe your word carries enough weight to make it so. The more powerful you are, the further detached the things you say become from the way things currently are.
It's the Chauncey Gardener effect (Score:2)
See the film "Being There" for an explanation.
"billionaire entrepreneur" (Score:3, Insightful)
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Every "entrepreneur" that I have met talks BS.
I think it is that success follows from lofty goals.
90 percent of all Chinese statistics are bogus (Score:2)
And the other 10 percent are questionable.
But that's just an objective measure from someone who was part of the first IPO wave of investors in China last century.
Still true today.
so says the guy who dresses like Steve Jobs (Score:2)
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/24... [cnbc.com]
Jeans and black shirt. But then, how many industries exist based on copying Apple's design chops?
Translation (Score:4, Interesting)
Let me translate what he just said.
"The old model includes local native apps in which freedom of security of data at the device level is a threat to the ruling class and totalitarian regimes; specifically in China. The new way is centralized back-end app that are dynamically updated, monitored, and content is controlled. Imagine having a back-end proactive spellcheck that removes all references to 'Tiananmen square'. It's a value-added bonus of conveniences that keeps citizens from breaking the law. This is how we can keep a more harmonious society with government control content through advanced technological paradigms.
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How about this translation:
You don't need more than one app: all you need is a browser.
Most American business are worst enemies (Score:2)
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If Apple or IBM or HP or etc. really wanted to re-grow and become relevant, they would bring back manufacturing and keep their corporate secrets under their hat.
Those same corporate secrets that Apple uses to produce smartphones that look like something from 6 years ago? The corporate secrets that produce desktop or laptop computers with the 3d graphics capabilities of a 10 year old PC (if that)?
I keep getting told by a local fanboi that Apple users have better things to do with their time than play computer games. Important stuff, like getting onto /. and modding down any comments that cast Apple in a negative light. Like this one, which will be -5 troll in 5... 4
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Those same corporate secrets that Apple uses to produce smartphones that look like something from 6 years ago? The corporate secrets that produce desktop or laptop computers with the 3d graphics capabilities of a 10 year old PC (if that)? You're so full of shit it's running out of your ears.
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Those same corporate secrets that Apple uses to produce smartphones that look like something from 6 years ago? The corporate secrets that produce desktop or laptop computers with the 3d graphics capabilities of a 10 year old PC (if that)?
You're so full of shit it's running out of your ears.
What? Don't have mod points? Go grab your team of fanbois!
Also, learn to quote.
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Man, you are so much smarter than everyone else. Must feel great to be you.
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Man, you are so much smarter than everyone else. Must feel great to be you.
it is! Especially not using overpriced, fruit-themed toys!
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Apple simply followed the same path by not only offshoring their manufacturing, but by giving it away. They own NOTHING of what is important.
Really? You think the commodity manufacturing activity that can be done by low-skilled labor is the important part of an iPhone? China only adds about $6-8 of the value of an iPhone. The vast majority of the value is added in the US, by the designers and engineers.
Apple is not outdated, its products are mature. (Score:2)
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So what is Apple going to do in order to generate the substantial revenue needed over the next decade?
Apple Watch - not enough revenue associated with it.
AppleTV - oh please, the current iteration is a mess, with a horrible, buggy UI.
Apple Car - Apple does not know the costs associated with being a car maker. Apple's enemies would love to see Apple get into t
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Services!
Yup, you'll be paying $1.00 a month to store your music in the cloud. You'll be paying $10 a month to listen to music. And whatever other services that Apple can think of (or copy, in order to monetize).
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Services!
Yup, you'll be paying $1.00 a month to store your music in the cloud. You'll be paying $10 a month to listen to music. And whatever other services that Apple can think of (or copy, in order to monetize).
I'll tell you what: I generally dislike the idea of "You never own me" Music; but for $10 a month, having On-Demand access to 99% of the ENTIRE iTunes Catalog (not just what some Algorithm "thinks" I WANT to listen to!) anywhere I can grab an internet connection is pretty fucking sweet!
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$10 per month is about 200% too expensive for that level of music service. But, like everything else Apple does, it is overpriced and Apple's customers seem to like, indeed seek out, being overcharged.
Of course. Riiiiiight. For exactly WHAT "Level of music service" would YOU consider paying the princely sum of $10 per month?
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Actually, that's what the CEO was arguing.
He's saying Apple is outdated because the whole "device in your hand that does everything" model is outdated. Network speeds are up, so why not use the cloud to do your processing?
That's his argument - that Apple is bad because they do everything on the phon
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...Saying that revenue is "much needed" is a bit of a stretch. ...
Much revenue *is* needed. Unless, of course, Apple significantly increases the dividends to its shareholders with all that cash hoard.
Having the cash is nothing. Apple needs investment ideas, i.e., what to do with that cash, but does not seem to have any big ideas on the horizon. That was the crux of my comment.
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What's not big about doing cars?
As to the watch, it's sold more than the iPhone did in it's first year. And significantly more than Rolex does ANY year. Presumably you don't think Rolex is a failure.
And why the fuck do you think you know they don't have any big ideas on the horizon when they don't announce products till they are ready to demonstrate, and are within days or at most 6 months for shipping.
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...There's plenty Apple could do...
And hopefully they do a much, much better job at it than the "TV done right" 4th generation AppleTV.
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Or maybe Apple has come to the end of its "things done right" run?
not entirely wrong (Score:5, Interesting)
Mr. Yueting isn't wrong when he says "having separate apps just means great obstacles in the user experience" or when he writes says that "CPUs and the mobile network speeds" a sufficient for integrated systems. however, he is wrong when he implied that this design was only good for "the first generation of mobile net" because he has not mentioned perhaps the largest and most fundamental issue with third party software: security. right now, smartphone security is still arguably an oxymoron and unless you rectify the situation, you are going to have a fully integrated system of fully compromised software.
when it comes to "smart" technologies, currently, the only winning move is not to play.
Depends on what you mean by 'compromised' (Score:2)
Is security really an issue in China? I mean, not counting what the government probably requires companies to open up for their data gathering purposes like
predictive policing efforts [defenseone.com]. If they build and entirely national technology ecosystem, the only enemy they have would be from within.
Individual Apps? (Score:2)
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The macpro is very out dated and at the same price (Score:2)
The macpro is very out dated and at the same price for at least 2 years
Watch it buddy (Score:2)
Don't make me send the Axe Gang over there!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
idiot! (Score:2)
> One of the most important reasons [for slowing sales] is that Apple's innovation has become extremely slow," he said.
False. There are two reasons:
1. The smartphone market is saturated, as I'm sure that assclown has noticed
2. Apple has been on a tick-tock release... and they've been waiting to see what Android makers have been doing and copying them in recent years. Rumors indicate that at least one iPhone version is coming that copies Samsung's "Edge" designs, and other rumors are indicating the inclu
"Enterpreneur" = "no clue about technology" (Score:2)
But good with money and knows the right people. Eventually thinks he has a clue about technology, and then says nonsense publicly, like this one here.
Competitor talks shit about competition... (Score:2)
Why is this on Slashdot, other than clickbaiting?
Entirely an expected reaction (Score:2)
The Chinese are just pissed off because a low-tech iPhone means there's not nearly as much cutting-edge tech for them to steal. ;-)
Seriously? (Score:2)
This was the right choice during the first generation of mobile net, when CPUs [central processing units] and the mobile network speeds were not fast enough," Jia said. "However now we're moving into the next era of mobile internet, these problems no longer exist.
..the fuck they don't, you brain-damaged buffoon. We still have massive limitations in battery. The only thing that's changed is that people are more tolerant of substandard crap because that's all they seem to be able to find, nowadays.
There's a reason I don't buy chinese crap unless I'm specifically looking for some cheap widget that, if it breaks, I don't care about.
Meanwhile, I went ahead and purchased a "low technology" iPhone SE. Why? Cause it's made with proven technology, it works, and it has a
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Only reason we have battery problems is the general public's stupidity.
Make all phones 2X thicker and battery life would more than double. we could easily have the charge once a week battery life we had back in the flip Razr days.
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Agreed. Wholeheartedly. I don't need a paper-thin phone. I need a phone that does the job. In the mean time, the iPhone SE at least a step in the right direction. Most of the same tech as the 5S, but with much newer and more power-efficient silicon, and they used the space they saved to include a slightly larger battery. (http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/iphone-se-vs-iphone-5s/)
My usage pattern isn't particularly heavy, so take this with a grain of salt, but so far I am typically ending the day wit
LeEco WHO? (Score:2)
A tiny, completely unknown company's self appointed CEO tries desperately to get noticed so he says something that is Fox news worthy....
And Slashdot as usual bites and runs with it.
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As a long time Mac user, I completely agree. Don't get me wrong. I do own an iPhone 6s and I've owned pretty much every revision since the first one. I happen to think it's a great smartphone that does everything I need from one. I've also tried Android phones a few time and they're ok too, but I prefer the iOS UI. (Less confusing to me and feels more polished.)
But I still like the "Apple Computer" company much more than the new "Apple" that wants to build all sorts of consumer electronics gadgets. Everyone
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Crawl around in the Cyberpunk genre for a bit... pretty sure there's still a buttload of cool kit to be made from ideas presented in there.
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What else don't we have? Replicator/transporter/warp drive are still in the fantasy realm until someone discovers new physics.
I don't think this is correct for the replicator and transporter. ST is a little fuzzy on how these work, but basically it has something to do with disassembling things at the molecular level, transporting them on an energy beam, and reassembling them elsewhere. It's far-fetched to be sure, but it doesn't seem to rely on faster-than-light physics the way warp drive does, so it seem
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Half the people buying tablets are turning around and buying keyboards for them, so they can emulate traditional laptops!
Say what now? This feels like a truthism (tm) rather than actually true. That would imply there is very little enthusiasm for the touch UI and rather, people prefer trackpad + keyboard. That....sounds fishy at best.
I could be wrong. But you'd need some pretty convincing data. Half (hell, even a large portion) of people buying tablets really want laptops? Erm....
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The fact that their Thunderbolt display is now like 5 years old with a relatively low resolution and is thick enough to be used as a blast shield is a little odd.
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The 5K iMac has specialized internal hardware and drivers to drive that 5K screen.
5120x2880 at 24 bits per pixel and 60 frames per second requires less than 20 Gbps.
DisplayPort 1.3 gets you over 24 Gbps. DisplayPort 1.3 was done in September of 2014, and Apple certainly had their hands on the specs well in advance.
DisplayPort 1.2 got you just over 16 Gbps. With 4:2:2 chroma subsampling, you'd be able to drive 5k a 60 Hz.
You don't need anything special to drive 5k, you just need the bandwidth. Older solutions involved sending the signal via two cables. It's nothing special.
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Congratulations? I have no idea how your personal triumph over _____ (really not rusher what goes in the blank here) is in anyway relevant to this topic.
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is in anyway relevant to this topic.
I need real computers with modern hardware running a real UNIX-style operating system.
Seems to be on topic to me.
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Why would you get the crappy 1080p monitor for that when you can get it with a 1920x1200 screen instead? I can get a little 14" notebook with a 1080p monitor.
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It's all about growth. It doesn't matter if you are one of the biggest companies in the world, you must grow. If you aren't growing they will send in the activists and slice you up and sell your entrails off. And I think this person would very much like to buy some of those entrails, evidently he knows exactly how to shitify them in true chinese fashion, and resell them back to us.
Re:Cash on hand & Dividends (Score:5, Insightful)
When sales settle down, dividends come into play.
You can't grow at 25% per year for a decade, from Apple's existing point or it will have sales 10 times what it has today which would be over $5 Trillion market cap.
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Apple's Still Growing (Score:5, Informative)
Apple has many businesses still growing - if you thought of any one product Apple makes a business, it would generally be growing more than most companies around.
The AppleWatch for example, was estimated to have sold more than twice the units of the first iPhone - and sales in the first twelve months brought in $1.5 billion more than Rolex. [bgr.com]
Apple's music and video sales are constantly growing. Apple Mac sales still see a healthy growth every quarter. Apple's services growth is greater than Google at this point, and because services are tied to hardware which Apple has so much of in the field, there's no reason to think service growth will slow.
Even the iPhone is still growing more than not.
Sometimes what the "law of large numbers" means is that if you are large enough, you win.
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Apple has the potential to be the new microsoft: a bloated corpse that is just carrying on via inertia. They DO however still have time to buy their way out of the mess they are in. BUT their NIH syndrome (and arrogance) may be their downfall... as they never invente
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I think GP is referring to the habit Apple has of taking a great idea with a shit UI (or shit ecosystem, or shit design, or shit quality) and turning it into gold.
Example 1: The iPod
PMPs had been around long before the iPod - I played mp3s off of my Compaq PDA viz. an SD card back in the day, and the Nomad and its ilk were around, etc. Problem is, nearly every solution had either shit battery life, shit interfaces, shit storage, or shit playback quality... Apple saw this, made a device that didn't suck, gav
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But anyway, the trope would be like saying that Ferdinand Porsche somehow stole the automobile from Henry Ford, so Porsches will always suck when compared to a Ford (we all know better, no?)
Exactly.
What is "innovation", but the continual refinement of that which has been invented before?
It's like saying "After the Wheel, everything else that used a wheel-shaped part in its design was a ripoff."
And yet, somehow, I'M the Troll... (rollseyes)
Re:Cash on hand (Score:5, Insightful)
Just like MS, Apple stole their entire UI idea from Palo Alto.
Nope. They PAID for that [obamapacman.com], then took it FAR beyond what Xerox PARC even ENVISIONED [mac-history.net].
They have stolen countless software app ideas over the years from devs.
And if you have written more than 10 lines of code in your life, so have you, me, and EVERY other Developer. Next!
Ipod. Stolen. Then refined with a better interface.
So NOT "Stolen". Refined. So, as another Poster said, Porsche "stole" the CAR from "Ford", right?
Ipad. Stolen. Then reality distortion field'ed into being 'revolutionary'.
Stolen? From WHAT, exactly??? Those POS "Slabs" that ran Windows for about 45 minutes and weight 10 pounds? See Porsche, above.
Iphoney. Stolen. Then reality distortion field'ed into being 'revolutionary'.
Again, Really? Who STOLE from WHO [bgr.com], again?
MB Air. Stolen. Then reality distortion field'ed into being 'revolutionary'.
Stolen? Again, from WHO? If you count "Netbooks" as "Prior Art" for the MBA, you might as well count the horse and buggy "prior art" for the Tesla.
Apple TC. Stolen. Then reality distortion field'ed into being 'revolutionary'.
TC? Time Capsule? How does that even make the list? It is nothing more than an obvious marriage of a WiFi Router and a Hard Drive for Time Machine Backups of several machines in the same household. But it isn't "Stolen".
Apple Watch. Stolen. Then they tried but failed to make it into being 'revolutionary'.
Everybody and his dog was more or less simultaneously working on Smart Watches. Apple's is cooler than most, because of the infrastructure it shares. But I don't think that anyone particularly "Stole" stuff from anyone else. There are only so many ways to do a SmartWatch. That's why they are ALL so similar. But seriously, STOLE???
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What about the SEx--excuse me, SE/30?
I gotta admit, I chuckled when Apple announced that name. I guess it goes to show that you won't ever see an "X-Treme!" version of the phone...
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Oh man. I picked one of those up in the late 1990's at a yard sale for $50. I wish I still had it.
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The SE/30 was expensive, under-powered, there were no NuBus slots and not even a color display. The MacIntosh II family was a Great Leap Forward.
The SE/30 was released AFTER the Macintosh II.
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However, lately for the past 5 years or so. Apple made it to #1 and have started to play it safe. Really avoiding big new product releases. And just giving boring incremental updates.
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However, lately for the past 5 years or so. Apple made it to #1 and have started to play it safe. Really avoiding big new product releases. And just giving boring incremental updates.
And yet, when Dell, HP, Lenovo, Asus, Acer, et al. do that for decades on end, nobody cries that they have "Lost Their Mojo".
Face it; for the past 3 to 5 years, we happen to be in a kind of boring time, compute-wise. The days of the incredible speed gains are long past. We have caught up to the laws of physics, and the only thing that will make computers faster now is more cores, and even that has a point of diminishing returns, heat-wise.
That's because the exciting stuff isn't happening at the consumer level it's happening at the engineering level. For example, longer battery life, lower power requirements at the same or slightly higher processing speeds, lighter weight, etc. It's there, but it's not all that interesting for most consumers, given that any computer bought in the last 8 years would work just fine for most people.
Virtual Reality is the latest hype. It comes around every 20 years or so. It is getting closer. Graphics power
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That's because the exciting stuff isn't happening at the consumer level it's happening at the engineering level.
You're right. But unless you watch the WWDC Keynote, you don't even get to know about those advances, even by Apple.
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...Really avoiding big new product releases. And just giving boring incremental updates.
And yet, when Dell, HP, Lenovo, Asus, Acer, et al. do that for decades on end, nobody cries that they have "Lost Their Mojo".
Dell lost whatever "cool factor" they had probably about 10 years ago. HP, probably even earlier than that, though maybe not as much in the server market (I wasn't involved in that market back then). Lenovo certainly hasn't been selling computers "for decades". I don't recall Asus or Acer ever having any "mojo" at all.
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I know, I know, I shouldn't feed the trolls.
...Really avoiding big new product releases. And just giving boring incremental updates.
And yet, when Dell, HP, Lenovo, Asus, Acer, et al. do that for decades on end, nobody cries that they have "Lost Their Mojo".
Dell lost whatever "cool factor" they had probably about 10 years ago. HP, probably even earlier than that, though maybe not as much in the server market (I wasn't involved in that market back then). Lenovo certainly hasn't been selling computers "for decades". I don't recall Asus or Acer ever having any "mojo" at all.
You're right, of course; but you're missing the point, to wit: There are NEVER hand-wringing Articles ANYWHERE about how THOSE Companies "Are fading into irrelevance, suffering declining sales, not innovating, just ripping others off, etc."
NEVER. Why is that?
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You're right, of course; but you're missing the point, to wit: There are NEVER hand-wringing Articles ANYWHERE about how THOSE Companies "Are fading into irrelevance, suffering declining sales, not innovating, just ripping others off, etc." NEVER. Why is that?
Because it happened a long time ago for Dell and HP (and Slashdot has certainly had plenty of articles blasting Fiorina's destruction of HP), and Asus and Acer have never been relevant enough to have any articles saying how they're fading into irrelevance.
What are you expecting? Monthly articles on Slashdot titled "Irrelevant companies are still irrelevant"?
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HP and Lenovo: Boring professional line up. Sure they made consumer apps, but that isn't their main brand.
Asus and Acer: The new Compaq and Packard Bell not known for innovation but affordable systems
Dell and Gateway: Their MoJo was when they mode quality systems. Then their popularity caused them to cost costs to make cheaper desktops.
Desktops and Laptops have been boring for a while. But to contradict my statement some devices like the Lenovo Yoga had got some buzz and excitement, not Apple release leve
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And yet, when Dell, HP, Lenovo, Asus, Acer, et al. do that for decades on end, nobody cries that they have "Lost Their Mojo".
To be fair, those garbage companies never had any mojo. [And I am reading HP in the above context as the personal computer company, not the engineering equipment company which had plenty of mojo.]
Right on both counts. But I don't even think that the HP/Agilent test equipment company is alive anymore.
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The funny thing is that it will sell like crazy in asia where the old 5 style models were killing it even with old hardware. This is FUD intended to keep people from buying the SE before he can get his clone out on the market. I guess they shouldnt' have focused so much energy on cloning giant phones.
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Apple's business model is to sell shiny junk to idiots. Granted, that's one of the oldest models there is, but it's not like we're running out of idiots.
Actually, that's Samsung's model.
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Don't forget all the "iPod killers" that came and went, with the ultimate iPod killer being the iPhone.
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Apple computers and devices consistently come at the top of customer satisfaction surveys. Their popularity is not status or form, it's because they have better UX. For sure you pay extra for that, and I understand that some people can't or don't want to pay for that. But you're kidding yourself if you think you are not missing something.
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What are you talking about? Hillary isn't that far from billionaire status with all those "speaking fees" she's been raking in. Between her and Trump, that means that probably somewhere around 75% of Americans will listen to a billionaire. (You overcounted Trump's supporters; lots of Republicans don't like him and prefer Cruz, but Cruz seems to be angling to be a billionaire too so you may be correct in counting them anyway.)
So you're wrong, but not the way you may have thought: *Most* Americans prefer