Steve Jobs' Yacht Revealed 438
schwit1 writes "Venus, the incredible luxury yacht Steve Jobs had been designing up until his death a little over a year ago, seems to have made its first appearance as a finished product in the city of Aalsmeer in the Netherlands. Unsurprisingly, its design is breathtaking. Reportedly designed in a joint effort between Jobs himself and Philippe Starck, the stunning ship first showed up on the blog One More Thing, which posted some stills as well as a few other details. The ship is about 230 to 260 feet long, for instance, and made entirely of aluminum, which makes it particularly light. And if you had any doubt this is Steve Jobs' yacht, there are seven 27-inch iMacs in the wheelhouse. According to One More Thing's sources, the Jobs family will be present for the yacht's christening ceremony proper, thought it's unknown whether or not they intend to use it, or what its ultimate fate may be. Regardless of what may happen to her, she sure is a beauty. It's certainly a shame Steve Jobs never got the chance to see her finished."
iSore? (Score:5, Funny)
I don't know, it looks more like an iSore to me.
Re:iSore? (Score:5, Funny)
iBox (Score:5, Insightful)
I barely want it to float. I've seen many beautiful ships. There is nothing on that that has any grace to it.
Re:iBox (Score:5, Insightful)
Minimalist? I barely want it to float. I've seen many beautiful ships. There is nothing on that that has any grace to it.
I know what you mean. And i wonder if the Worm-Food Formerly Known As Jobs was yelling and screaming at the shipyard workers, telling them how worthless they are etc.
He was pretty damned abusive to the ppl who helped make him his fortune. i bet he was even worse when he is the customer.
Sorry fanbois but i won't gloss over his emotional abuse just because his company makes good products. Abuse is still wrong. Good products don't just cancel it out. If we are gonna make some monument of the man and his life and every detail of it then let's be honest and tell the whole truth and not just be hypocritical bastards who pick and choose only the parts that support our fanbois.
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Re:iBox (Score:5, Funny)
And the Chinese galley slaves received a promise for better working conditions. Also very generous!
Jobs' true design ability (Score:5, Insightful)
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Barely? I'd rather pull a titanic.
What happened to all the smooth, rounded edges jobs loved so much? That would have been a great place for them.
Re:iSnored? (Score:5, Funny)
And they named her Venus.
They probably didn't realise "The Good Ship Venus" had a fair bit of prior art. I wonder who they'll sue for that?
Re:iSnored? (Score:5, Informative)
You mean this?...
It was on the good ship Venus
By Christ, ya shoulda seen us
The figurehead was a whore in bed
And the mast, a mammoth penis
The Captain of this lugger
He was a dirty bugger
He wasn't fit to shovel shit
From one place to another
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do
Captain's name was Morgan
By Christ, he was a gorgon
Ten times a day sweet tunes he'd play
With his fuckin' organ
The first mate's name was Cooper
By Christ, he was a trooper
He jerked and jerked until he worked
Himself into a stupor
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do
The second mate was Andy
By Christ, he had a dandy
Till they crushed his cock on a jagged rock
For cumming in the brandy
The cabin boy was Flipper
He was a fuckin' nipper
He stuffed his ass with broken glass
And circumcised the skipper
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do
The Captain's wife was Mabel
To fuck, she wasn't able
So the dirty shits, they nailed her tits
Across the barroom table
The Captain had a daughter
Who fell in deep sea water
And by her squeals we knew the eels
Had found her sexual quarters
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do
Friggin' in the riggin' ...
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do
Re:iSnored? (Score:4, Insightful)
I've sung "The Good Ship Venus" a few times, myself.
'Venus' is a head-turner/head-scratcher in the same way a person always looks at a Yorkshire Terrier [wikipedia.org] doing #2 and wonders how it doesn't have its backside matted with dung.
1. It just does not look like it will be a good "sea-keeper", even with a slight turn near the bow.
2. The upright windows seem as though they will be hit bluntly by big seas, so must be quite strong.
3. There does not appear to be a way to wipe/wash the bridge windows, but they must have thought of that, surely.....
Re:iSnored? (Score:5, Insightful)
It looks like a boat designed by two people who weren't actually interested in boats or why good ones look the way they do. Let's just hope for the crew's sake that a proper marine architect was engaged for all the bits below the waterline.
Re:iSnored? (Score:4, Funny)
Wash the bridge windows? Stand on the roof and pee on them.... Lager, rinse,repeat.
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I don't mind it... (Score:5, Funny)
It looks like Steve Jobs took the designs of the black ship that Zaphod Beeblebrox stole from the restaurant at the end of the universe, built it in white, then jammed a old corrugated iron shack on the top for a wheelhouse!
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Yeah it got a little wonky up top. And the shiny bit up front is annoying, though I guess it'll disappear on the water.
I get the feeling they were aiming for old school minimalism... I pictured something like the Farnsworth House.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Farnsworth_House_2006.jpg [wikipedia.org]
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Oddly, if you put another window just inside the other it insulates more than twice as well as one window alone.
Somebody should patent that.
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Seriously, the wheelhouse looks like the Microsoft store takeoff of an Apple store.
Re:iSore? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:iSore? (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't know, it looks more like an iSore to me.
A two word description, sterile and boring. If you turned that in as a final design for design school I'd expect to flunk. Even the placement of the iMacs lacks imagination. I thought they'd be built in not sitting in a row blocking the window. A design fail on every level.
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Re:iSore? (Score:4, Funny)
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I agree. This is not what I expected when the article called it "breathtaking". It's not even breathtakingly bad, it's just... plain. I don't even like Apple (ethical reasons) but I have to admit they usually have some sort of sense of design. That makes it pretty hard to believe a designer like Jobs ever thought of this ship.
Re:iSore? (Score:5, Funny)
Congrats on first dickishness. Very clever.
I don't own any Apple products, and likely never will - I have major philosophical differences with that kind of closed-source approach.
But y'know what? Jobs was a fucking genius, and that boat is a clear expression of how his vision matured over the years. Just because I don't like the underpinnings of Jobs' genius doesn't mean I can't appreciate it for what it was.
Oh, and y'know... he's dead. Those wars are over, asshole.
None of what you said alters the fact that the boat is sort of ugly. When vision matures in this particular manner it's usually called cataracts.
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Re:You aren't so good looking yourself (Score:4, Funny)
This might be a huge shock to you, but it's not. Attractive, ugly, skinny, fat, young, old, smart, stupid, rich, poor, good, evil; it's extraordinarily easy to "get some" no matter who you are. That fact that you seem unaware of this is indicative of your own immaturity.
Re:iSore? (Score:5, Insightful)
Those wars are over, asshole.
You just stated and disproved your point in one sentence. Interesting.
Re:iSore? (Score:5, Funny)
You're right. It's matured in a sort of Lucasian way. You know the way that the last star wars movies made were so mature and superior to the first star wars films made.
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I don't hate jobs or apple. Even owned an iphone 3.
That boat is ugly.
Re:iSore? (Score:5, Insightful)
Oh, and y'know... he's dead. Those wars are over, asshole.
Nooo.... no they're not. The wars he started are really just beginning.
Steve Jobs was truly an evil and despicable person in the world of computing. One of the first to even understand what cyberspace *was*, what it *could* become, and how to ultimately control it.
It was once explained this way, and still is my favorite analogy:
Steve Jobs saw computing as a wide open territory yet to be populated. He did not want to empower people with free movement, or any freedom in general, in this new "space". The way he saw computing was like trains instead of cars. He would build the trains, sell the trains, and by building and owning the tracks, "guide" people in this new "space". He would be the gatekeeper, the guide, the prophet, and all would experience his world, on his terms, and why not? He's a fucking genius right ?
To say that man is a toxic plague upon cyberspace is a vast understatement. Where are we now with the whole concept of the walled gardens? How many other companies are rushing in with greedy fervor to make money the same way? Microsoft... I'm looking at you with Windows 8 and the app store.....
Yes, he could see that people wanted easy to use, shiny, very shiny, devices that just worked. Why not do that and control their ability at the same time?
If somebody brings up his anti-DRM stance, just remember that he had the foresight to see there was no winning that war, and that by controlling the walled garden and giving very cheap payment options, he would make up the money in volume and hardware sales.
The wars, the wars against people and freedom, have only just begun. Thanks to Steve Jobs, the people have started out with a severe disadvantage and handicap.
Although, to be fair, he is not wholly responsible for the horrific state we are in. Zuckerburg has some responsibility too.
Indeed, WinTel was a blessing not a curse (Score:5, Insightful)
It ain't just Steve Jobs/Apple, had the PC become owned by IBM, Atari, Commodore and god knows who else (japan had its own eco-structure and it becomes more and more obvious as the world gets smaller that back then every country had their own home computer brand), IT would have looked very different. ALL those companies were about owning the entire market, from the computers themselves (go buy a Commodore from Compaq) to the storage media, the joysticks EVERYTHING.
It is thanks to Compaq, MS and Intel (and the "failures" of the rest) that we got this accidentally remarkably open platform. Apple sold expensive PC's, thanks to Compaq creation of the IBM-compatible, we got cheap PC's and thanks to those who cloned Compaq's we got EVEN cheaper PC's. Some might point out the Apple Mini but Apple would NEVER have produced that IF they didn't have to because of cheap PC's. Proof? Apple didn't produce them when there weren't any cheap PC's. That is why Apple almost went bust the first time around.
Thanks to MS we got an OS that would work ACROSS cpu's... yes i know AMD and Intel both made X86 but if you think that makes them automatically fully compatible in all but their most base modes, you are a silly person. And this gave buyers, a CHOICE. Apple/Atari/IBM never gave you a choice. You buy what they choose to sell you. Intel thought 33mhz was enough for the 386(if I remember correctly) and AMD made a 40mhz version and people could choose. Could choose NOT to buy IBM or Dell or Compaq and roll their own.
It all happened by accident and thank god for it, wintel was/isn;t perfect but we narrowly avoided situations that would have been far far worse.
But that doesn't mean we are saved. The openess and freedom of the PC and internet might have come around by accident but that doesn't mean it can change.
Bootcamp, was that introduced because Apple wanted you to be able to use the OS of your choice or because they knew that if people couldn't run Windows on a Mac, they would sell fewer Mac's? I seen an amazing amount of Macbooks with the Aero design on the desktop.
Closed architectures are not just limited to niche attempts like Linux. If a mono-culture exists, control becomes easy. The US is rather famous for NOT having state censorship for TV such as England has. Instead, the TV broadcasters "choose" to censor themselves and no politician has to stand up and say"I want to limit free speech" but can "think of the children" thanks to self-censorship.
There have been countless stories of mega-stores in the US censoring products. Walmart censoring music CD's, App store refusing to carry apps. This doesn't matter, as long as a free alternative exist, the internet in general. But as AOL has shown and MS network and countless other attempts, there is a constant push to create walled gardens. And a walled garden isn't that bad, as long as you can get out with relative ease but nobody builds a walled garden with the idea that people should be able to get out easily.
When mega-stores are the only places to shop, their control becomes extremely risky to a free society. And with the app-store, Apple and Steve Jobs have given everyone who values real freedom a frightening look at how IT could have turned out if Jobs had sold cheaper PC's.
Jobs has the most depressing eulogy you could think off: "Thank god the man was a failure at the most critical time". And we can only pray that it remains true because if the app-store walled garden approach succeeds in W8 new app-store, the PC environment as we know it, is doomed.
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Incorrect.
IBM actually was the king of vendor lock-in. The only problem was they needed a PC, stat, after pretty much ignoring the market and being content to sell mainframes. But they saw the winds of change and they weren't going to be the top guy anym
Re:iSore? (Score:5, Insightful)
No rage. Just a vast sea of disappointment and concern for our future.
I was not the one to come up with that analogy, nor did it come from a vacuum either. Jobs did not do great things for computing. Creating admittedly great devices is merely a distraction for the toxic environment he created where consumers do not own their own devices, decide what software and media is acceptable for the devices, and have freedom in general.
It's not like I would have to try very hard to get disappointment, frustration, and yes, rage from app developers and vendors that work with Apple either.
The app store is not a great idea, and it is a terrible execution of it for that matter. Creating a walled garden approach to computing is never a good idea. I might feel different about it if:
1) Any developer could submit any app, without restrictions, and receive a fair price. I won't argue about Apple's cut for this, which is way too high, either.
2) The consumer owned their own device and did not need to the endorsement of the Supreme Court to "jail break" their device to load software, and basically, enjoy what should be the basic fundamental rights of anybody in the computing "world".
An app store as a distribution model, great idea. An app store as a tool for totalitarian suppression of a population (mostly sheep), terrible idea that is a pox on society.
You can try to attribute hate and malice to my "rant", but how about coming up with good defenses of for the walled garden and lack of freedom?
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Re:iSore? (Score:4, Insightful)
This.... a thousand million times... this. I am so sick of the hero worship. Albert Einstein was a genius. Nikolai Tesla was a Genius. Thomas Edison was a great inventor and, arguably, a genius. Steve Jobs was none of these. He was a great salesman and perhaps even an extraordinary salesman, but not a genius. I heard some kid talking the other day about how Steve Jobs was a genius because he invented the smartphone and the MP3 player. It was all I could do to not slap the kid.
Let's be clear. Steve Jobs did NOT invent the smartphone. He did not invent MP3 players. He did not invent the personal computer. He merely repackaged those ideas into something else. Steve jobs was a great salesman, nothing more.
Bandwidth saver (Score:5, Funny)
For those of you who wish to save bandwidth and not seek out a picture:
Imagine USS Seal and Merrimack having a love child.
Imagine a hurricane depositing a pagoda on top.
But not as pretty.
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Haha that's actually a damn good description of the eyesore. Thanks for expressing it in words.
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For those of you who wish to save bandwidth and not seek out a picture:
Imagine USS Seal and Merrimack having a love child.
Imagine a hurricane depositing a pagoda on top.
But not as pretty.
While it's not the Ruby Yacht of Omar Khayyam (as seen in Rocky & Bullwinkle) you could quite possibly water ski behind Jobs' tub.
Re:Bandwidth saver (Score:5, Interesting)
Imagine USS Seal and Merrimack having a malformed child conceived as a results of drunken/berserker reciprocal legitimate rape.
FTFY. I looked for both USS Seal [wikipedia.org] and Merrimack [wikipedia.org] photos.
By whatever God you respect! both of them have elegant lines in comparison with Jobs' yacht.
Re:Bandwidth saver (Score:5, Informative)
I think he was probably referring to Merrimac after her rebirth as Virginia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSS_Virginia [wikipedia.org]
Wow (Score:3)
What an ugly monstrosity. Well, we know Steve was a minimalist. Look at the pictures of the bridge. No buttons!
Where was Jonathan Ive? (Score:2)
Ugly! Ugly! Ugly!
From the looks of it, I assume that Jonathan Ive was NOT involved in the design.
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hmmmm, it's really just the front of that thing that throws the whole look off, it's like a 50's kitchen appliance. some kind of angular shape is need there and no reflective surfaces at all....
I can't wait to see (Score:4, Funny)
Samsung's CEO's new yacht. I hear they'll be debuting it next year.
Re:I can't wait to see (Score:5, Funny)
Did you mean debugging?
Re:I can't wait to see (Score:5, Informative)
I doubt that Samsung has anything left to learn about building ships. Real ships. [samsung.co.kr]
Definitely not an Apple product! (Score:5, Informative)
That is the ugliest seagoing thing I have ever seen. Job's design taste obviously didn't come from Jobs himself. He should've had his designers build models (for him to poop on) until he found one that was sleek and attractive.
Re:Definitely not an Apple product! (Score:4, Funny)
He should've had his designers build models (for him to poop on) ..
Hence the iPoopDeck.
Distinctive (Score:2)
So that's what he did... (Score:4, Informative)
Anything that blocky can't be called sleek (Score:3, Insightful)
Looks like the Jobs reality distortion effect persists after death!
It's a fake. (Score:5, Funny)
And if you had any doubt this is Steve Jobs' yacht, there are seven 27-inch iMacs in the wheelhouse.
Why yes I do. I doubt any egocentric billionaire could afford one of those $1800 27-inch iMacs, much less seven of them. Good lord, such opulence!
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That's not a yacht! (Score:4, Insightful)
http://diamondsyacht.com/ [diamondsyacht.com]
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My wife's comment on first sight: (Score:3)
Seaworthy? (Score:5, Interesting)
Big panels of vertical glass. What happens when one of them takes a good sized wave?
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Nothing, since they're 100% guaranteed scratch-resistant.
Re:Seaworthy? (Score:5, Funny)
What happens when one of them takes a good sized wave?
It's important to hold the ship at the correct angle to the wave.
Surprisingly Ugly (Score:2)
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Fark....the Wally//118 is 12 kinds of awesome!!
Would have suited apple's style much better than the hideous monstrosity they have now.
Jobs' Yacht Released (Score:5, Funny)
No sails. Less space than an aircraft carrier. Lame.
Buddhist (Score:4, Insightful)
I'd have thought a Buddhist would strive to be unencumbered by such monuments to worldly wealth.
But then, I might not be well enough informed.
It's a shame? (Score:2, Insightful)
How is it a shame that a cruel, lying, megalomaniac who disavowed his daughter's existence for nearly 20 years didn't get to out on his yacht?
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To think that you had that line carefully crafted in your mind, honed to a mirrorlike snark, ready to inspire flailing uncoordinated nerd high-fives from all who would read it, only to fumble it in the end zone by making a brain-dead syntactical fuckup that rendered the entire post nonsensical.
iMacs? (Score:3)
I hate to be a nit-picker, but are those iMac monitors daylight readable?
iFugly (Score:3)
a thing of beauty? (Score:5, Informative)
As much as I dislike Apple, the company, they do have some smart looking gadgets. And they owe a lot of that to Steven Jobs, I'm sure. But that thing looks like the Staten Island Ferry. A nice one, but a ferry none the less.
I just went to Google, typed in yachts and hit image. There were some truly beautiful boats; sail and powered. Steve Jobs was NO boat designer.
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Agreed. I have recently spent about two years in a shipyard restoring an antique wooden boat. I have seen a lot of people throwing truckloads of money at something they thought up. I have come to call them barn jobs they always look like something built in a barn. A truly fine vessel has a pedigree. A known designer, built in a known shipyard, will always have worth, and be a thing of beauty. He could of just paid these guys [feadship.com] and described what he wanted and ended up with something nice.
Phillipe Starck (Score:5, Insightful)
He's no genius, just an egomaniac with the ability to fool a surprising number of people at least some of the time.
I wouldn't be surprised if this thing is sunk in the first rough seas it encounters, if its design is anything like as poor as his laughable lemon squeezer.
Re:Phillipe Starck (Score:5, Insightful)
This Starck character appears to be the nautical version of the famed "architect" Daniel Libeskind. Libeskind designs art museums without vertical walls upon which to hang art.
Charlatan is the right word, sir. But perhaps a little lacking. Charlatans designed the emperor's new clothes. I think this class of people -- Libeskind, Christo, and a few handfuls of others -- have elevated the art of charlatanry to new heights. I can't help but wonder if their "designs" are tongue-in-cheek commentary on the vulgar tastes of a bourgeoisie who seem only too happy to embrace having their faces spat upon. The working stiffs know it's ugly and awful. Only the upwardly-mobile pretend to like having poo flung at them.
Not even close. (Score:5, Insightful)
"Regardless of what may happen to her, she sure is a beauty."
No she isn't, she's hideous - a barge with a couple of boxes and some cardboard on top. Worse yet, with that straight bow and huge expanses of glass in the forepeak... she's not designed to keep the sea either. (And what kind of moron puts passenger spaces in the fo'c'sle anyhow? Other than a bunk slung between the mains, that's the worst part of the ship.)
She's obviously designed for nothing more than staying in calm waters or moored to impress the impressionable - an as a sailor, I say that's a abomination.
Not a yacht... (Score:3)
Where can it dock? (Score:5, Funny)
iDon'tLikeit (Score:4, Interesting)
It looks ugly, it does not look like a seafaring vessel, but I may be mistaken. Ugly lines
only one hull ? (Score:4, Insightful)
Try as I might with these poor images, I can find only one hull. So many elegant multihull designs in recent decades and he has chosen a barge. It's not just speed that he's sacrificed, it's comfort, safety, fuel efficiency, ability to approach shallow water and, as so many have noticed, class.
Nice packaging (Score:5, Funny)
Beautiful? (Score:3)
Glad to see where Jobs family priorities (Score:3)
I don't know, this makes the Jobs family look like the biggest group of douches in history.
I've said it before that usually when some rich billionaire dies of some kind of disease, there is usually some kind of center for research that the family declares in his honour. I've heard nothing, no donations, nothing from Apple or the Jobs family about giving some of them billions into research that might help prevent other families suffer the results of cancer.
Instead the family happily reveals a superfluous yacht. What a bunch of douches.
Why do people love this company? The create inhuman working conditions so they can produce their devices a 2 - 5x profit margin, rake in billions in profit and then hoard the money away giving absolutely nothing back to society. Yet Bill Gates, who has focused his life to philanthropy, giving away billions, is regarded as an asshole.
and major parts are bolted in (Score:2)
and major parts are bolted in so when they fail you need to replace the full boat.
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No big deal, just get them conformally coated.
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Re:Ocean Air - Corrosive? (Score:5, Interesting)
Ocean air is not the only corrosion to worry about. I've no clue what they intend to use to protect the alu hull with.
Story time folks, been told before but there may be new readers here.
In '59, I had the pleasure of being a bench tech, at a little place on Mission Bay called Oceanographic Engineering, helping to assemble the electronics for the 2 cameras that were mounted on the Trieste when it went down onto the mohole in the Pacific a few months later. The Navy had come in and bought the first 2 we made but instead of the cases we were going to use for towing them thru sewers to inspect the sewers, they gave us specs for a bronze case, with quartz windows they supplied. Designed to withstand about 25 kpsi, its 17 or 18 kpsi in the mohole. But they wanted to play a bit before the real show and asked us to make the first one out of 7078-T6 alu. It took us about 6 weeks to get a lathe that big AND accurate setup and we made the first case out of a 6" diameter alu rod about 2 feet long. Fixed it up with all the packing glands it would need. They picked up the whole kit on a smallish cruiser, 65' for so and took it out about 50 miles to give it a dunk test. We had sent it out and had the heaviest cad plate we could get put on it. They brought it back the next day and having been scratched by rolling around on the deck deep enough to penetrate the plating, and in one days time over the side and down about a thousand feet, those scratches came back to us 1/2" wide and an inch deep, just from being in the sea water for about 12 hours.
Needless to say, the real cases for the Trieste trip were cut from some special bronze that started out nearly 8" in diameter. The camera itself was 2.5" in diameter, so we bored a 3" hole for it in the bronze and padded it with weather stripping to hold it centered in the hole. Those 2 cameras, a rounded box with some relays in it to turn the stuff around and switch the lights, and the gondola of the Trieste were all that was pressure sealed, everything else was running at the ambient pressure which was considerable. Except for chewing thru the rubber diaphram separating the sea water from the oil in the pan & tilts for one of the cameras, that trip down with Picard and Walsh, it all worked. The P&T wasn't disabled & still worked when they came back up. With some very interesting pix I got to see a few of.
And Steve had it made with an ALU hull? 'scuse me, but... I predict it will spend a lot of time in dry-dock, getting patched. It likely won't last much longer than I will since I have a 78 year head start on it.
Cheers, Gene
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On the other hand, maybe it's not really meant to last, the old tax dodge was to use luxury yachts as a way to transfer money from one country to another by building som
Navy uses aluminum hulls? (Score:3)
Re:Ocean Air - Corrosive? (Score:5, Informative)
Ocean air is not the only corrosion to worry about. I've no clue what they intend to use to protect the alu hull with....
Wow, for someone with such experience you seem to not know much about boats. Aluminium is quite a common material to make boats with, just google "aluminium boat" if you need more info.
Re:Ocean Air - Corrosive? (Score:5, Interesting)
Wow, for someone with such experience you seem to not know much about boats. Aluminium is quite a common material to make boats with, just google "aluminium boat" if you need more info.
I am not the person you're replying to, but I did google for aluminum ships. This was the first hit in my list. [time.com]
Quoting the article:
You can't make this stuff up: the Navy concedes the first vessel in its latest fleet of warships - the 18-month old USS Independence (not to be confused with the late aircraft carrier sporting the same name) - is suffering from "aggressive" corrosion.
Re:Ocean Air - Corrosive? (Score:5, Informative)
In fresh water, yes. Great boats till the rivets start leaking in 25-30 years. Salt water OTOH, is very corrosive to aluminium which I usually shorten to alu.
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I'm sure there's triple redundant navigation systems onboard. While the custom iMac thing is flashy, a backup Garmin or similar commercial system is only going to add $40-60,000 to the cost of the boat. The bridge (as well as the rest of the boat) is likely climate controlled (my friend's $15,000 sailboat is, at least) and corrosion is going to be pretty minimal over the 20 year lifespan of this boat (megayachts seem to have a pretty short lifespan for whatever reason; styles change).
Changing Styles (Score:3)
Oh, that won't be a problem here. That thing has no style.
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Not at all. When men went to sea, the boat they were on, nurtured them and kept them safe from harm and alive.
When men aren't being stupid, they know women are the stronger sex. It is women they lean on when they are afraid. It seems only natural to think of that boat beneath their feet as a woman.
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Perhaps it's simpler than that. They loved women; they loved their ships. A backhanded complement to the ladies, methinks. Ever looked at figureheads? You'll find a lot of ladies, and generally very complementary artwork, too. Add that to the tendency to anthropomorphize things you depend upon, and... yep, seems pretty natural.
Ladies on ships of old would have been bad luck, too -- fights over them, rape, etc. Your average sailor didn't tend to come from the most cultured of roots, and privation doesn't ten
"He" thing, then? (Score:3)
Russians like to refer to a boat or ship as "he"
Does that make you feel better?
lol
Re:"He" thing, then? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:How Cheap of them (Score:5, Insightful)
I think they gave them one of those one things. You know. Those things. What're they called? It's right here on the tip of my tongue. I hate it when this happens. One of those one things. Ah-ha! I got it: a paycheck.
The card the the iPod are just thank you's. Going above and beyond. Ya putz.
Jealous? Seriously? (Score:3)
Dude, come on, just look! [google.com]
Re:Grow up (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm a huge fan of art deco.
That boat is not art deco.
It's kind of blocky like the Victory Monument in Bolzano, northern Italy which an example of fascist art style.
And it kind of reminds me of the wells fargo plaza which is an example of the brutalist style except it's made from aluminum instead of concrete. The wiki says that brutalist examples are typically very linear, fortresslike and blockish.
Art deco was full of life, color, cool little design bits while also been clean and elegant.
That monochromatic floating white iron has none of those qualities.
Re:Imagine if this were Mitt Romney (Score:5, Insightful)
Jobs cofounded a company that built useful things, occupied a position of influence in its industry, made many employees and stockholders wealthy, and satisfied many customers.
Romney did what for his money, again?
Re:Is this a good design? (Score:5, Informative)
I've built a few smaller boats with family, I have boat and ship builders and designers in my family and I can pretty much say they will complain about the shape of the bow for sure. A straight bow (or a plumb) is terrible for rough seas as it tends to pull down into oncoming waves. As for the flat chines, let's hope there's a decent stabiliser in the hull otherwise that's going to be one vomit inducing ride. As I can't see the total draft it doesn't show any tech below the water line. There maybe external stabilisers a couple of meters below the freeboard.
I'm not a big fan of the high transom, I can understand the amount of stress that happens in that area, but from what I can tell, the structure shown seems to indicate a drawbridge extending out of the back so there must be a fair bit of reinforcement behind all that sheet metal to deal with the torque.
To be honest, it looks more like a river cruiser than a blue water international cruiser. Maybe he intended it to drift around a local lake?