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How to Podcast 90

Posted by michael from the used-to-be-called-push dept.
ptorrone writes "Engadget shows how to get Podcasts on your iPod and for the DIY Radio enthusiast, how to make your own Podcasts using mostly free tools. What's a Podcast? To put it simply, a Podcast is an audio file, a MP3, most likely, in talk show format, along with a way to subscribe to the show and have it automatically delivered to your iPod or other music device."
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  • Unfortunate... (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Sheetrock ( 152993 )
    My first reaction is to wonder how much of this is illegal. It's almost certainly possible to record off of somebody else's podcast, and I doubt that person is tracking the dues they owe the RIAA and others for broadcasting.

    If people keep doing undesireable things, it's only going to lead to undesirable features being built into the iPos and iTunes. It's really only .001% that want to do something like this; why ruin it for everybody else?

    • Re:Unfortunate... (Score:3, Interesting)

      by erick99 ( 743982 )
      From the article:

      So what's a Podcast? To put it simply, a Podcast is an audio file, a MP3, most likely, in talk show format, along with a way to subscribe to the show and have it automatically delivered to your iPod when you plug in to iTunes. The show isn't live, so you can listen to it whenever you want.

      I can think of a lot of free content that would work great with this. And while there are things that could be done that wouldn't be illegal, I don't think that trumps the legal uses.

    • Umm already the ipod allows you to store un-DRMed music on it, so why would .001% using pirated radio really make them change anything when probably more than 50% of ipod owners already have copyrighted music which they downloaded off P2P on there anyway? Its not like this little gem is bigger than that hope diamond.

    • Re:Unfortunate... (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Wanderer2 ( 690578 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @06:13PM (#10445736) Homepage
      My first reaction is to wonder how much of this is illegal.

      How could making copies of your own talk show and distributing them over the Net be illegal (except in places like China)? How could listening to someone else's be?

      Okay, maybe if your 'talk show' features long clips of copyrighted music... but that's not what the article discusses.

      If people keep doing undesireable things, it's only going to lead to undesirable features being built into the iPos and iTunes. It's really only .001% that want to do something like this; why ruin it for everybody else?

      1. Make sure you only use that iPod in the approved manner, citizen! 2. I'm not an expert in anyway, but did you just use a semi-colon in the proper manner? Pity that was the highlight of your post for me.

      Sorry for the jibes, but I think you've grabbed the wrong stick.

      • If people keep doing undesireable things, it's only going to lead to undesirable features being built into the iPos and iTunes. It's really only .001% that want to do something like this; why ruin it for everybody else?

        I disagree with the poster's sentiments, but the punctuation is fine. The clause beginning "why ruin it . . ." can stand on its own, so a semicolon is required instead of a comma.

        As a side note, I know I would love to use something like this for NPR's freely available internet programm

    • Depends on the intent of the people doing the Podcasting, I guess. I would say that if they are in fact set up for Podcasting, there's no problem with it, because they're expecting it.

    • Why would that be your 1st reaction? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by VidEdit ( 703021 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @06:20PM (#10445796)
      There are lots of interesting legal uses for this technology. Podcasting is another step forward in democratizing the media.

      There is no reason to assume that the "podcasts" are of music, and there is no more chance of piracy from podcasts than from the internet in general. Characterizing people doing podcasts as people "doing undesirable things" is a presumption based on facts not in evidence.

      The automatic presumption that computer audio files==piracy is a triumph of RIAA PR but not an actual fact.

      More of a danger to iPods and iTunes would be the INDCUCE act and dis-information from Steve Balmer, who implied that iPods with their ability to play un-DRM'dmp3s were the primary vector for pirated music. In fact, iPods, with the success of the iTunes Music store, are the primary success story for DRM, and Microsoft Windows powered PCs are the undeniable leaders in pirated file trading.

      • Re:Why would that be your 1st reaction? (Score:1, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward
        Podcasting is another step forward in democratizing the media.

        Last time someone tried to "democratize the media" they started the Independent Media Project.

        Lies, bigotry and libel with zero accountabillity were the bulk of the result. Not a good thing.

        While the total lack of democracy in much of the world, or the wholly state-controlled press in most of the terrorist world goes ignored, we hear Americans and Westerners complaining about their media. Get over it. Has it occured to you that most of us

  • broad-pod-casting! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by pchan- ( 118053 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @05:51PM (#10445559) Journal
    bah, that's nothing.
    how about modding an (automotive) fm modulator to increase the power output, hooking up an antenna to it, and using your mp3 player as your source? share some interesting radio with the cars parked around you in traffic. bonus points if you attach an led display to your rear window showing "now playing".

    • how about modding an (automotive) fm modulator to increase the power output, hooking up an antenna to it, and using your mp3 player as your source? share some interesting radio with the cars parked around you in traffic. bonus points if you attach an led display to your rear window showing "now playing".

      You mean something like this [thepocketsolution.com]...

      • Re:broad-pod-casting! (Score:3, Insightful)

        by pchan- ( 118053 )
        You mean something like this.

        no. that's a halfassed solution of getting from your device to your car. most "quality" (if you can call them that) fm modulator devices for cars don't broadcast fm at all, they attach directly to your car antenna (on the inside, of course), though they still suck compared to aux inputs. i meant modifying one of those antenna drivers for getting music from your device to OTHER PEOPLE's cars, who may happen to be more that 3 feet from your transmitter source.

        also, make sure

      • Re:broad-pod-casting! (Score:4, Interesting)

        by connorbd ( 151811 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @06:09PM (#10445708) Homepage
        I think that's exactly what he had in mind, though I don't think it's a terribly practical idea on the FM band, simply because you can't broadcast to more than a couple of cars at a time. It would work a little better on AM (part 15 rules are much more lenient on the AM bands), but really there's a reason they don't do mobile broadcasting.

        Of course they don't make transmitters for AM, and it's illegal to mod something like an FM transmitter because of something called type-acceptance -- in other words, the FCC gives your "pocket radio station" implicit approval because it knows what the device is supposed to be capable of. If you mod it, it's no longer legal to use because it doesn't fit the profile that the FCC has on file. (Your mileage/kilometrage may vary outside the United States.) This is the same rule that makes it illegal to mod FRS or CB gear.
        • I should have said that they don't make pocket transmitters for AM, though you can buy transmitters designed for stationary use in both kit and turnkey form. You could hook up your iPod and entertain most of an average-sized town with one of those, though there'd be little point in doing it in the car.

          • You could hook up your iPod and entertain most of an average-sized town with one of those, though there'd be little point in doing it in the car.

            Actually, there's a very good reason to do that from a car: it's harder for the FCC to track you down if you only broadcast when you're mobile! You need to keep your antenna relatively conventional-looking, too.

            Keep an eye out for non-descript vans with many antennas (FCC) or beat-up cars bristling with antennas (ARRL) following you...

        • There are some types of transmissions where it is definitely safer to only transmit to a couple cars at a time. But of course, my name is Profane MuthaFucka, and I get paid to think of these applications.
    • well, then you'd be happy that FCC doesn't yet use tactics like they used sealabs "radio free" episode.
      (a big ass bomb).

      it wouldn't really be that much of a feat to do that though, to attach an fm transmitter to an mp3 player..).

      and I'd imagine pirate fm stations to do that all the time(though I hear the more usual tactic is to dump the transmitter somewhere to play a pre-recorded show).

      just stick to itrip(apples line->fm transmitter for short ranges) and having it broadcast only to your car and maybe

  • All we need now... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Mike Rubits ( 818811 )
    ...are some decent shows to subscribe too! For some reason, I can't see The Scripting News catching on for the general populace.

    Awesome idea though, just shows all the cool things you can do with RSS. Here's hoping Apple's next MP3 player will support WiFi for Shoutcast streams.
    • ...are some decent shows to subscribe too! For some reason, I can't see The Scripting News catching on for the general populace.

      I would love it if you could set up your iPod to automatically download NPR in MP3 format.Currently I stream a lot of their programming (Morning Edition, Wait Wait, Fresh Air) through my computer but it'd be great to be able to put this on an iPod and listen to it while running, on the subway, whatever. It's nice to be able to listen to it whenever you want, catch stuff you've m

      • Re:All we need now... (Score:3, Informative)

        by bloosqr ( 33593 )
        Doesn't ipod take MP3 files? I used to "streamrip" shoutcast stations and burn them onto mp3/cds for long distance traveling.

        If Ipod looks basically like a hard drive once mounted (which i think it does), I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to use streamripper [sourceforge.net] and then snag say WNYC's NPR mp3 stream [wnyc.org] automatically for whatever shows you want and then move the appropriate streams to your automounted ipod drive in HFS.

        If shows that you like are run overnight you could probably cron script this whole thing into a

      • Re:All we need now... (Score:2, Informative)

        by W1BMW ( 462297 )
        If you're using an Apple, it's called Audio Hijack Pro [rogueamoeba.com] and it allows you to capture ANY audio that you can listen to with your computer and save it to a nice & tidy .mp3 file. I used to have something similar for windows before my enlightenment, but the name escapes me. Anyway, AHP can even be set to fire off at a certain time if you wanted to catch a specific program while you sleep, leaving it on your desktop to be dropped onto your iPod at your convenience. I use it specifically for NPR programming s
        • The app I use that pretends to be a soundcard, but records the audio to a file (compressing through lameenc.dll if you want) is TotalRecorder [highcriteria.com] for twelve bucks. Comes with a scheduler. I might use it to record HHGG and All Things Considered, but I'd have to leave my power hungry PC on 24/7. I think instead I'll get Audio Hijack Pro & use my new iBook. I'm also ripping vinyl these days and Audio Hijack Pro (or Total Recorder Pro if I wanted to pay the $25 to upgrade) will split tracks on silent bits.

  • Possible uses? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by MinusBlindfold ( 775913 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @05:53PM (#10445583) Journal
    Sports scores, weather, news reports, etc? Maybe a college professor can make his lecture available in this format?

  • Underground Talk Shows (Score:3, Informative)

    by radd0 ( 558899 ) <radman&acid,org> on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @05:56PM (#10445611) Homepage Journal
    This sounds like an excellent method to broadcast some of my favorite underground internet radio talk shows. :-)

    i.e.:

    The ARTS [acid.org]

    BinRev [binrev.com]

    Default Radio [defaultradio.com]

    Radio FreeK America [oldskoolphreak.com]

  • Podcasting (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Rob_Warwick ( 789939 )
    I tend to listen to the Daily Source Code [slashdot.org] each day. If only Adam would stop talking about Podcasting and actually put on some more interesting content.

    I'm really looking forward to some good stuff out of this. Remember, if you don't like what you're hearing, there's nothing stopping you from producing something yourself!

  • I had an idea quite similiar to one of the above posters during the last Phish show up in Coventry. I was thinking if you could up the wayyahe output on an iTrip or similiar device, and then have say 10 cars park around your central location, and turn up the volume, tuned in to your broadcast. This could be a much cheaper way of doing a DJ gig, without all the messy expense of renting and lugging generators, and such. Now if only I could scratch on the iPod...

  • Pod Jockeys (Score:5, Interesting)

    by G4from128k ( 686170 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @06:03PM (#10445668)
    Is the commentator/mixer on an iPod a PJ?

  • Nice timing (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Bluelive ( 608914 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @06:03PM (#10445669)
    Finally got my bittorrent proxy working for a few of the audio blog feeds. http://blue.student.utwente.nl/jrss/blbtab.rss its not really usefull yet but i could use some help debugging.

  • Security Problems? Buffer overruns? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Discotechnica ( 699121 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @06:05PM (#10445680)
    Might this open up some security problems?

    iPodderX, which is basically a newsreader that reads RSS 2.0 feeds with enclosures, takes those enclosures and automatically downloads them in the background. If the file is an audio file, it then moves it to iTunes for download to your iPod, so with iPodderX you constantly have fresh content to listen to. iPodderX downloads any type of file, (even Torrents) so you can wake up in the morning with a fresh set of audio shows, video programs, or whatever else you've subscribed to.

    What if someone were to take advantage of these auto downloads and use them to send you infected files. Maybe there are problems in iTunes' coding that will allow buffer overruns like those found with JPGs [slashdot.org]?

  • For those who don't RTFA (Score:4, Informative)

    by phrenq ( 38736 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @06:06PM (#10445691) Homepage
    and start talking about FCC implications, this has nothing to do with broadcasting. It's a way to distribute radio show-type content TO an ipod, not from it. The distribution mechanism is nothing more interesting than downloading an mp3 specified in an rss feed.

  • Finally, cable access programming for my iPod! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by VidEdit ( 703021 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @06:10PM (#10445719)
    Ahh, finally a way to get cable access quality, home-brew radio talk shows delivered directly to my iPod! The world will be changed forever! No longer will I have to worry about listening to up-to-date news and information on my computer or via the radio, now I can listen to old news that has been automatically archived on my mp3 player. And best of all, I don't have to worry about listening to interesting podcasts from the NPR or the BBC because their aren't any.

    Don't misunderstand me, having my iPod loaded with mp3s via RSS is a cool idea, but the lack of DRM insures that the copyright and royalty-driven major media players will not be sending out RSS feeds anytime in the foreseeable future. So, podcasting seems destined to be a bit player.
    • Who are they kidding? Having to wait for the mp3 to download? I mean by that time the news is old!!! I want my news fresh and unbiased like the stuff I get from FOX news and CBS
      • Yes, you're right that I overstated the lack of timeliness...

        But, it is the case that the lack of immediacy slightly changes the equation of how this can be used. It is not like a broadcast in that you can't interact with it, call in or give feedback on a podcast in real-time. But it would be a great format for distributing serialized narrative fiction.
    • (Don't hold me to this for 100% accuracy) I believe Adam Curry, one of the main drivers behind the concept of podcasting, has a friend who is in talks with the BBC about posting some of their archived stuff (which leads to more opportunities later) through podcasting. So no, this is not the best way to get live up to the minute, national publication stuff now. However, what about in a year, two , or three? Leo from TechTV is starting to pocast his radio show.
      One of the other benefits of this is the time shi
      • I have high hopes for this format, but low expectations...

        BBC stuff would be really cool and a lot easier than the system recording I'm doing so that I can' listen to the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy radio broadcasts on my iPod--which are rather a pain the butt to do from Real streams on a mac...
    • Every day around mid morning I open up the BBC Radio player and listen to the Mark Radclif show which plays 10:30 to Midnight on BBC Radio 2. I can listen to it the following day quite happily.

      I would imagine that it would be in the BBCs interest to fire over the file to me overnight when they no doubt have some bandwidth to spare, rather than serve it to me 'when I click the button'.

      Today there was a Travis session which was rather good - but Im no more likely to hold on to that that I would if I were ta

  • How about RSS synching for iPod (Score:4, Insightful)

    by aardwolf204 ( 630780 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @06:22PM (#10445810)
    How about RSS synching for iPod [weblogsinc.com], or even better, RSS with text-to-speech generation synching.

    /me invisions listening to slashdot while jogging.

    PS: Do we like or hate engadget? I forget.

  • The Engadget howto (Score:2, Informative)

    by Ludoo ( 12304 )
    Describes with more details what others have found, see Hugo Schotman [hugoschotman.com] or podcasters.org [podcasters.org].
  • I know this idea of RSS 2.0 feeds with enclosures is great and all for getting non-live data, but I've found timed recording of live radio MUCH more useful (with content I want to listen to.

    On my Mac, I use RadioRecorder [macupdate.com], a free app that lets you schedule when you want a particular feed (in one of several formats) to be recorded. So I record NPR's Morning Edition from 5 to 6:30 am, and then listen to it on my 6:45 - 7:30 bus ride (shitty radio reception on pocket radio).

    I can listen to Car Talk from th

  • Tivo for radio. (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Frappuccino ( 813206 )
    This is a good idea, although it seems that i've never come across a decent internet radio show. I'd love to download Howard Stern shows every morning to listen to throughout the day, but for that to happen this would need FM capability. There was something like that on slashdot a while ago, but it was ugly and not mac compatible. The truth is, I would pay Howard Stern a buck a day to "Tivo" his show onto my iPod. Good internet radio shows are pretty much nonexistant, but it's nice to know if I find a g
  • A lot of people have MP3 players now. If someone was to go make a serious effort at encoding and selling talk shows and other 'talker' formats for people to listen to on them, you could probably make a lot of money.

    Think of all those language courses for example. If they didn't have to ship you all of those cassette's they'd save a fortune. Sell it all online, Web Sites make cheap store fronts after all.

    Everyone has been so focused on Music that they've been overlooking other applications.
  • " Podcast is an audio file, a MP3, most likely, in talk show format, " I pondered this sentence for a while before I realized he meant 'Talk Show in MP3 format'... hmm.. bizare wording

  • another engadget paid placement (Score:3, Insightful)

    by SethJohnson ( 112166 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @08:36PM (#10446785) Homepage Journal


    For Christ's sake, will slashdot come clean on how much money they charge Engadget (WEBLOGS, INC. NETWORK [weblogsinc.com]) for these story placements? The submitter, Ptorrone, is the author of the article (Phillip Torrone), yet this is not disclosed in the slashdot post.

    Engadget is an infomercial site. It's not a blog. If you doubt the commercial relationship between slashdot and Engadget, check out how many submissions [slashdot.org] have been accepted from Ptorrone in the last 60 days. Also note that each of the accepted submissions are Engadget articles written by PhillipTorrone.

    • Re:another engadget paid placement (Score:4, Interesting)

      by ptorrone ( 638660 ) * <pt@adafr u i t . com> on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @09:37PM (#10447075)
      hey seth- WIN doesn't pay slashot anything at all, ever, i and others on engadget write and edit articles, and submit them, most of what i submit doesn't get approved here, some of the text even gets editted. all that said, i personally try and write articles i think folks would enjoy, if they get picked up and approved, all the better, if they're not that interesting, you won't see them here. if you want to email me feel free to and i'll gladly do my best to answer any questions.
      • Phillip,

        I appreciate your response to the charges I've made. I'll email you to start a not-so-public discussion on this topic. If you and Engadget are legit, I'll respond here indicating my endorsement.

        I would request that anyone submitting a story to Slashdot that links to their own site, or some article they've written on a site disclose their relationship. Check out how the editor of Wired did this in his submission [slashdot.org] that was also posted on slashdot today. It's easy to do and builds credibility for ev
      • Phillip,

        Since the parent of this thread indulged in some bashing (later retracted, of course), I just wanted to give a shout out to what you are doing over at flashenabled.com. Reading about the kind of stuff you are doing is exactly the reason I visit Slashdot every day.

        Keep up the good work! And if you are able to pull down a little cash from Engadget or whoever while doing your cool projects--more power to you!

        I think a lot of Slashdot users would kill for a chance to do what they love for money. I'm

      • WIN doesn't pay slashot anything at all, ever, i and others on engadget write and edit articles, and submit them, most of what i submit doesn't get approved here, some of the text even gets editted.

        I'm not surprised it gets edited!



      • After my brief email dialogue with Phillip, I believe that Engadget does not have a commercial relationship with Slashdot. Mr. Torrone is simply busting his ass creating content over at Engadget and Slashdot seems to respect that by featuring links to his work. I look forward to seeing more interesting articles by Phillip Torrone and hope that in the future he discloses his authorship in his submissions to Slashdot.
  • CBC's technology reporter has posted his report on podcasting as a MP3 for people to download http://radio.blogware.com/blog/_archives/2004/10/7 /156725.html

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