Alpine to Release iPod Interface in Autumn 2004 231
jeblucas writes "Not to be outdone by the recent iPod your BMW news, Alpine updated the details on their iPod interface for those of us who want to spend cash on the sound system, rather than the logo. Apparently announced in January (?), this should be available this fall. Sweet! You can ask for more info by emailing Alpine directly."
Really, folks. (Score:5, Funny)
Alpine (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Alpine (Score:3, Funny)
Every new Countach will come with one. Better yet, every new Tucker will come with one as well!
"restores lost detail"? (Score:4, Interesting)
Does anyone know how this would actually work? Is this kind of like postprocessing for video files but applied to audio? Or is this just more marketing hype for an equalizer/dynamics expander?
Re:"restores lost detail"? (Score:5, Informative)
MX does work; it adds midbass and depth to FM & 128k MP3 sources pretty well. On CD, MX setting #1 (there are 3 available on the units) is kinda like loudness.
The car is an inherently noisy/lossy environment; this helps overcome roadnoise and loss due to panel vibration.
Watch for real-time DSP time-alignment and EQ coming soon - it's on the very high end Alpine F#1 Status in-car DVD-Audio player.
Re:"restores lost detail"? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:"restores lost detail"? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:"restores lost detail"? (Score:3, Interesting)
I have something similar on my panny amp, it resamples CD audio to 192 kHz and "invents" 3 new values. It does not do harm, but to claim that "dramatically" enhanc
Re:"restores lost detail"? (Score:3, Informative)
You may be familiar with this procedure from Photoshop's 'image size' facility: enabling 'resample image' and selecting 'bilinear' or 'bicubic' causes Photoshop to generate new pixels to smooth out the jaggies created by resizing, using a mathematical formula to interpolate between the color values of the original pixels.
Interpolation in audio processing works similarly, taking
Re:"restores lost detail"? (Score:3, Funny)
As we both know it is impossible to pull out "details" form one's ass
Perhaps you have never listened to a Microsoft spokesperson.
Re:"restores lost detail"? (Score:5, Informative)
However, don't plan on using it with a well-mixed CD or high-quality MP3. For these applications, it tends to make the sound worse.
Re:"restores lost detail"? (Score:2, Funny)
Apparently, little more than obfuscated code from this open source project [shorl.com].
Re:"restores lost detail"? (Score:3, Informative)
Saw this in Vegas... (Score:4, Informative)
Three words: Toyota Prius interface (Score:4, Interesting)
Apparently, these guys [coastaletech.com] have modded the Prius audio/touch screen system to control a XM receiver, complete with onscreen title display, so I imagine it can't be that hard to support an iPod as well, right, especially if Apple were to help?
Re:Three words: Toyota Prius interface (Score:5, Funny)
He rolled the window down to flip them off back, but the added drag of having the windows down slowed down the car more, and the Caddi was gone before he could extend his finger. True story.
Re:Three words: Toyota Prius interface (Score:2)
Re:Three words: Toyota Prius interface (Score:5, Funny)
Yes but in a Prius installing an iPod would probably reduce your gas mileage.
Unless, of course, the Prius drew power from the iPod, in which case it could dramatically increase performance.
If anyone else found this confusing... (Score:5, Informative)
No, this Alpine kit has MUCH more functionality. (Score:5, Informative)
I think the advantage of actually having track names displayed on the screen vs just the number of the track in the required specially generated "BMWLIST#1-5" is quite a distinction.
The Alpine unit also allows you to " browse the iPod's entire music library right from the Alpine head unit [alpine-usa.com] ".
In short, the Alpine unit is actually a good interface, whereas the BMW unit just acts like a lame CD changer.
Re:No, this Alpine kit has MUCH more functionality (Score:2)
Re:No, this Alpine kit has MUCH more functionality (Score:2)
Re:If anyone else found this confusing... (Score:2)
Re:If anyone else found this confusing... (Score:2)
Dipshit, indeed.
Re:If anyone else found this confusing... (Score:2)
I was able to configure a system with a subwoofer for about $1,100 plus $100 for the iPod interface, and although that's somewhat expensive it doesn't strike me as outrageous, especially considering the cost of cars today - or, for that matter, the price of an iPod.
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Re:If anyone else found this confusing... (Score:2)
iTrip sort of works... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:iTrip sort of works... (Score:5, Funny)
Maybe you should concentrate on driving while you're in your car?
Re:iTrip sort of works... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:iTrip sort of works... (Score:3, Informative)
Here's your salvation -- get a headphone extension cord. The FM transmitters use their cord as the antenna, but the length (and therefore power) is restricted by the FCC. I attached a 4-foot cord between my Belkin FM transmitter and my Nomad Jukebox, and I haven't looked back.
Hope this helps.
Re:iTrip sort of works... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:iTrip sort of works... (Score:2)
That's not what I suggested. I suggested that he put a headphone extension cord between the FM transmitter and the iPod.
I hope that anybody who drives with headphones ends up ignoring an ambulance on its way to save the driver's mother.
Re:iTrip sort of works... (Score:2)
Re:iTrip sort of works... (Score:2)
Re:iTrip sort of works... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:iTrip sort of works... (Score:2)
I'm sure there are a few car stereos with that feature out there. It just wasn't a particularly popular thing to have until the iPod came out.
Re:iTrip sort of works... (Score:3, Interesting)
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Re:iTrip sort of works... (Score:3, Informative)
iTrip doesn't work (Score:2)
Re:iTrip doesn't work (Score:2)
BMW and Alpine (Score:4, Informative)
Re:BMW and Alpine (Score:2)
Personally, I like my Empeg better.
Stereo v Logo? Maybe you'd rather have a kia. (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Stereo v Logo? Maybe you'd rather have a kia. (Score:5, Funny)
You wasted your money on the Beamer. You can get the same note out of an old Nova at half that speed.
(we're talking about the "exhaust note" which periodically gets higher and lower, and includings flashing red and blue lights, right?)
Re:Stereo v Logo? Maybe you'd rather have a kia. (Score:2)
And, exactly how often do you get to drive at 140mph? Unless you live outside the US (which, from your use of miles, seems unlikely), you sure aren't going 140 on any public roads.
Re:Stereo v Logo? Maybe you'd rather have a kia. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Stereo v Logo? Maybe you'd rather have a kia. (Score:2)
Longmont north gets better, but too many idiots and the 34 interchange is just death waiting to happen.
Re:Stereo v Logo? Maybe you'd rather have a kia. (Score:2)
Hmm... well okay. I put an MP3 of that up on Kazaa, enjoy!
Re:Stereo v Logo? Maybe you'd rather have a kia. (Score:3, Interesting)
Take the BMW M3 for instance, practically an icon among BMW fanboys. The Volvo S60R beats it by miles in pretty much every department (ok, it might me
Re:Stereo v Logo? Maybe you'd rather have a kia. (Score:2)
The reason you don't drive a Modena every day is that it spoils you and ceases to be special. As an everyday "fun" driver, the Mod
Logo? Is that dig at BMW? (Score:2, Interesting)
Heyyyy, that sounds a bit like an insult towards my favourite boutique car maker.
Mmmmmm, BMW E39 M5 [fantasycars.com]. Even better if kitted out by Dinan [dinancars.com].
(completely off-topic, but a man must be allowed to dream...)
Re:Logo? Is that dig at BMW? (Score:2)
Please, no more iPod news! (Score:3, Funny)
To prevent the legions of iPod fans from hunting me down and playing techno music in my ear, I must remain an anonymous coward.
Re:Please, no more iPod news! (Score:3, Funny)
No problem, we logged your IP address.
Techno music in you hear, you say? Yes, you'll scream out for that very thing before the end.
Re:Please, no more iPod news! (Score:5, Insightful)
Personally, I'd like to see a lot fewer article about Linux's acceptance or nonacceptance on the desktop, the pervasive attacks on our freedom by DMCA/RFID/PATRIOT/DRM/GWB/Internet Explorer, the sense or nonsense of outsourcing or anything relating to SCO. I mean, come on -- "Darl McBride's toilet overflows, says stolen memcopy algorithm to blame." This is supposed to be "stuff that matters," when indeed it's usually the same shit served up cold with the same for insights modded up (and, you know, anything *I* post).
But the iPod...well, the iPod was something out of left field, and it's something that confounds our community because so many of us still don't understand how it can be so popular when it's so expensive. It's right -- or as right as right can get with software. So what if it's lacking features -- this just goes to show that little features done sloppy aren't worth one feature done well and marketted without prejudice. If we could take that to heart -- make an Open system that had a single high quality choice for every function you could like, instead of one based on thousands of discordant choices -- well, there'd be no stopping us.
Re:Please, no more iPod news! (Score:2)
Ah well. I don't own a portable file player but if I decided one would fit my needs, I'd strongly consider an iPod, but not ignore the competition outright. It's just that the competition doesn't seem so relevant or as balanced in comparison at the moment either.
If we could take that to heart
Re:Please, no more iPod news! (Score:2)
I should get a patent on that.
Too late. Microsoft already has.
Re:Please, no more iPod news! (Score:2)
Are you seriously telling me that news about the ipod are more important than the pervasive attacks on our freedom? Stuff that matters indeed. The world is bigger than our ipods
Took em long enough (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Took em long enough (Score:3, Insightful)
WGARA (Score:4, Insightful)
Had an MP3 player long before the iPod existed.
Re:WGARA (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:WGARA (Score:3, Interesting)
Uh, shouldn't you just be putting your MP3 player on "shuffle" before you drive and then concentrate on driving?
(1)If a song comes on you don't like...why the hell is it on your MP3 player?!
(2)Shouldn't you know what the hell is on your own MP3 player? If you don't and finding out the song/artist is so freaking important, you should pull over to find out. Otherwise, keep your dam
Re:WGARA (Score:2)
I never said anything about a song I don't like. However, I will say now that sometimes I feel like listening to a bit of this, and other times a bit of that. It's nice to be able to navigate by the name of the playlist rather than having to remember that Jazz is playlist #7.
Of course I do. I never said I didn't.
Re:WGARA (Score:2)
I wrote no such things. Your attitude is cranky. (That's a criticism of your attitude, not you as a person.) Being alleged poor is a conjecture on your financial status; again, not you as a person. It's clear you don't really know what ad hominem means, however.
Where would we be without you to point out such obvious truths to us? Nobody believes Apple invented the MP3 player.
Re:WGARA (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:WGARA (Score:2)
Correct me if I'm wrong...but isn't EVERYTHING in linux done with hacks?
Re:WGARA (Score:2)
Re:WGARA (Score:2)
Re:WGARA (Score:2)
Re:WGARA (Score:2)
Plus a lot of Alpine gear is kind of...well...chintzy. I'll stick with my factory dash, thanks (plus i went through a lot of trouble to hack the CD changer controls).
Re:WGARA (Score:2)
Re:WGARA (Score:3, Insightful)
Ford did not invent the automobile but I bet you couldnt name the guy who did.
The iPod is a great product at a good price. People know it and people are buying them in droves, not just cause they are 'hip' and 'cool' but because they are good.
Re:WGARA (Score:2)
It's kinda funny how in the last couple of years when people started from scratch with portable MP3 players, the majority of them choos
Re:WGARA (Score:2, Interesting)
"Business Week Online columnist Alex Salkever notes that while Apple's iPod is a "bona fide hit," its 25% global marketshare number may be overblown: "Too bad their assumption is off base: The iPod's global market share may actually fall well below the 25% mark....Very little good data exists on international sales of consumer e
Re:WGARA (Score:2)
have you ever used an iPod?
I have used many products with jog dials, and I must say that the iPod scroll wheel, is the absolute best when you are dealing with a very long list of options.
Still too rich for my blood. (Score:5, Informative)
This Monday, I ordered a Dension ICELink 1.1. [densionusa.com] It plugs into the unused CD-changer port on the back of the stock stereo in my Toyota, keeps the iPod charged, and provides line-level input from the iPod as well as letting me use the next/prev track buttons (possibly others, but I'm not sure) on the stereo to minimally control it while it stays out of sight in the glove compartment.
This is not as fancy as being able to fully control the iPod like the BMW solution, but it's good enough for my purposes and cost less than $250. It just shipped yesterday, and I can't wait to get it.
Re:Still too rich for my blood. (Score:3, Interesting)
Sounds like you paid more for less. I wouldn't complain, though...I spent about two days hacking my own changer controls to work with the iPod last year, didn't have the luxury of buying either of these devices.
Re:Still too rich for my blood. (Score:2)
Re:Still too rich for my blood. (Score:3, Informative)
I'm not aware of a head unit that can put out a true 40W/ch (unless you believe the marketing materials). The stock stereo in the original poster's Toyota likely manages about 5W/ch, and is probably beginning to clip at that level. The Alpine units with V-Drive claim something like 55W/ch max, but are probably more like 30W RMS.
You're also confusing "good" with "effici
logophilia (Score:3, Funny)
Not to be outdone? Alpine announced this last year (Score:2)
Dear Poster, (Score:2)
Bluetooth... (Score:3, Interesting)
Aux Jack on your current car stereo + Dumb Wire (Score:4, Interesting)
Another relatively simple approach, if your car stereo has a cassette player, is those adapters that look like a cassette tape with a wire out the back. Not sure how good they sound, though.
Re:Aux Jack on your current car stereo + Dumb Wire (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Aux Jack on your current car stereo + Dumb Wire (Score:2)
The actual input is a line-level (i.e. RCA jacks) accessible on the back of the unit. You can leave the "tail" tucked away inside the glove compartment or anyplace where the IPOD might be.
I'm not a big fan of people taking their eyes off the road long enough t
No VW system yet (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:No VW system yet (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:No VW system yet (Score:2)
"rather than the logo" (Score:2)
Re:Why? (Score:5, Insightful)
I've never used iTunes (or an iPod), and even I know that:
1) If you're talking about music purchased from the iTunes store, no, you can burn them onto CD essentially as many times as you want.
2) That utterly defeats the purpose of the iPod. I don't want to carry around a stack of CD-Rs when I have an iPod that can store hundreds of CDs worth of music.
Re:Why? (Score:2)
that $50 you have leff over will only buy 2 cd's with audio on them, if you're lucky!
Re:PAID ADVERTISEMENTS?? (Score:2)
Re:PAID ADVERTISEMENTS?? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:PAID ADVERTISEMENTS?? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:PAID ADVERTISEMENTS?? (Score:2, Interesting)
And yet, lots and lots of people really like it. Some have based their whole worldview around it. I guess maybe some things are more than just the sum of their parts...and some other things are way less (that new Commodore player looks pretty shitty).
Re:PAID ADVERTISEMENTS?? (Score:4, Insightful)
iPod owners don't shop based on price. We shop based on quality. Don't try and argue this. As somebody once said, there's nothing that somebody can't build a whole lot cheaper and a whole lot worse.
Re:PAID ADVERTISEMENTS?? (Score:4, Funny)
I expect it to be at least as popular as the much loved 8-track format.