Use an iPod Mini to Broadcast Pirate Radio 558
StJefferson writes "Ever want to silence the urban assault vehicle beside you at the stop light, pounding out gangster angst at orthodontia-rattling volumes? Now you can, and here's how, courtesy Engadget."
From the no-shit-sherlock dept. (Score:5, Insightful)
This isn't even a clever hack. 'Take your iPod antenna and put an even bigger antenna on it! Then--get this--find somebody listening to a radio and use your iPod to broadcast on the same station that radio is tuned to! Pwn3d! OMGWTFBBQ!'
Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. (Score:5, Funny)
"Hey Good Looking! We'll be back to pick you up later!"
Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. (Score:2, Funny)
Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. (Score:4, Funny)
"Hey Good Looking! We'll be back to pick you up later!"
Homer: Oh, he's in for some lovin'!
Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. (Score:4, Funny)
Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. (Score:5, Funny)
"Honey, Jimmy destroyed the universe again."
"That's it! I'm writing that Steve Jobs a nasty letter!"
I would prefer... (Score:5, Funny)
...a directed EM pulse. Advantages:
Re:I would prefer... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:I would prefer... (Score:5, Insightful)
You're thinking of gamma and X rays. We're talking about reg'lar old radio waves. Radio waves live on the other end of the electromagnetic spectrum. Radio waves are non-ionizing (i.e. they don't hurt your DNA). An EMP can be almost entirely dissipated by a well grounded metal shield. Physics. It's not just for kids!
Re:Uh... (Score:3, Informative)
YDRC,DA.
A square wave is the sum of the fundamental and all odd harmonics.
It's a pulse that contains all frequencies.
mod parent up (Score:2)
Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. (Score:3, Funny)
Er, possibly... go wrong. Heh, that's the first thing that's ever gone wrong.
Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. (Score:5, Interesting)
You're not kidding.
I live on a street where these assholes like to drive up and down while bassing. Well, one day, I got really pissed. I'm trying to work in my den on a project and the constant noise just won't stop.
So finally I follow one of these guys to see where he ended up. I honked my horn rythmically as I drove by.
Next thing I know the guy is chasing me around trying to run me off the road. I called 911 and get, I not am sh1tting you "we're really busy right now" and I'm asked to call another number where I'm put on hold listening to how my city has this great new newsletter. "Please download Adobe Acrobat Reader to view the newsletter".
Finally someone comes back on and tells me I might as well drive to the police station. Hey, great idea. Lots of police there. Well, that doesn't stop him.
I sit in the police parking lot for 30 minutes while this guy tells me how I'd better not do that again or I'll be sorry. He is insane.
Oh, the FIRST time I followed someone, they took me into da'hood where I drove through what looked like a riot and was almost hit by a driver fleeing police. You'd think I would have learned the first time.
The really depressing thing is realizing that I'm essentially powerless. People can be a55holes and threaten your life and you can't do anything. Why? Because I have to follow the law while they have nothing to lose.
I later went back to look at the laws in my state governing self-defense. They are totally impractical. The legal system is set up in such a way that you really have to let the animals control the streets.
Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. (Score:3, Insightful)
That really is wonderful. Then the judge or the police say useful things like, "well you shouldn't take the law into your own hands" or "don't bother them and they won't bother you" and the ever popular "just ignore them."
Small wonder there's so much gun violence in this country. We can't stand each o
911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, etc. (Score:5, Informative)
It's called prioritizing. "Deal with shooting or deal with guy who's being followed by some teenager punk. Hmm." "I am not sh1tting you", 911 is heavily abused. Sample calls, according to dispatchers I've spoken with: "Hi, do you know the number for ____?" "I lost my dog..." "Can you give me directions to...", then the ever-popular hangups, which of course they have to investigate, tying up an officer's time. Then there are shut-in bitches who tell war+peace about the neighbor's [dog barking/yard mess/porch lights on/you name it]. The list goes on, and on, and on.
Most police departments are also pretty short-staffed these days. Bush is mostly responsible on two counts; 1, for cutting back on federal funding for local emergency staff- police, EMS and fire all have been hit hard in almost every town throughout the US. 2, a large percentage of Guard and Reservists are (surprise!) also town/city fire fighters, police, EMS, etc.
I later went back to look at the laws in my state governing self-defense.
How about looking up the noise ordinances, instead? Most cities and towns have 'em. NY, for example, is getting very tough on noise complaints (I believe you dial 311, ie the non-emergency number?) Borrow a neighbor's video camera (they'll be happy to oblige if it's annoying them as well) and videotape the clown going by- be sure to get a closeup of his face, and his plates. Call the NON EMERGENCY ie business number for the local station, ask to set up an appointment with an officer or detective. Problem solved and out of your hands.
Next thing I know the guy is chasing me around trying to run me off the road.
Um- duh. Get away from him, file a police report later with the plates and vehicle description. You've also hit upon why I carry a Bronx Calling Card, aka 3-D-cell Maglight, in my front door pocket. I have been doing so ever since someone told me they'd "fucking kill me" at a stoplight when I told him he his highbeams were stuck on. This was, incidentally, in downtown Larchmont, NY(very swanky neighborhood), the guy was not driving a riced out POS, and he was white.
One of many reasons I moved out of NY state- everyone's a prick out to kill you at the drop of a hat.
Not the police in my city. (Score:3, Insightful)
I've been pulled over twice in the past seven days so I think it's time to finally give in and install a bracket and the plate.
The second officer was very authoritative but seemed respectful enough so I asked him what the purpose of a front plate was and if it was suppossed to make it safer for officers. His response was something like, I have no idea, I think they're silly but the law states you have to have it so you do.
Seemed
Re:Not the police in my city. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et (Score:5, Insightful)
You have GOT to be shitting me.
Bush is mostly responsible on two counts; 1, for cutting back on federal funding for local emergency staff- police, EMS and fire all have been hit hard in almost every town throughout the US.
"cutting back on FEDERAL funding for LOCAL emergency staff"
While you were smugly typing in your oh-so-wise critique of Bush, did it ever even occur to you how inane this is? It's the central frickin' principal of federalist government, you idiot!
Also, as far as the Guard and Reserve go, did it ever occur to you that this would happen, and has, WHENEVER Guardsmen and/or reservist are activated? Including World War II? Would you have said "It's all Roosevelt's fault?" I mean, really, what would you suggest, telling policemen and emergency responders that they can't serve in the Ready Reserve? Vice versa? Disbanding the reserves?
Sorry to go ballistic, but it's not too far off to say that people like you are what's wrong with this country. You have no clue (or just don't care) about the principles of limited and local government on which this country was founded. You just want more, more, more from an increasingly centralized, monolithic government.
Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et (Score:4, Insightful)
Now if you did read it, then try to say something related to what he said.
Funding for local should be local. This cuts out the middleman (fed gov) and thier 'share' of the pie. Frankly I don't wan't the feds taking any of the money I pay towards local police and paying for porkbarrel projects with it. They can not take the money in the first and let my local gvt collect taxes to support the local police, FireFighters, and so on. This way we can get a few more of each for the same amount of $$.
Bush didn't re-do somthing stupid, so it's his fault? Bush has issues don't get me wrong, but this idiocy of adding an extra step and overhead to police funding isn't one of them.
Mycroft
Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et (Score:5, Funny)
"As a
--RJ
Crumb's Theorem (Score:4, Funny)
Crumb's Theorem:
The chances that George W. Bush actually is to blame is directly proportional to the number of months he has been in office.
Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et (Score:3, Funny)
WTF is a three dimensional flashlight?
oohhhhh....
Re:The Maglite Defense (Score:3, Funny)
Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. (Score:3, Insightful)
What I don't get is that someone actually thinks a Basshole is actually listening to the radio. Really. If you have such incredible musical taste that you feel duty-bound to share it with others, by force even, are you really gonna let your selections blow in the whims of the FM dial?
Any Basshole who thinks he's worth his boom tubes who gets snarked by some yuk with an FM-broadcasting iPod deserves what he gets.
Possible solution: (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Possible solution: (Score:3, Funny)
Then you not only defeat their equipment, you defeat their will to live.
Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. (Score:5, Insightful)
You pick a fight with a badass, then, when he takes you up on it, you realize, "Oh my god! I forgot! I'm a big fucking pussy!"
What are you going to tell the police? "I provoked this asshole, now he wants to fight."
Police arrest you both for fighting or just wasting their time.
Ignore annoying people-- or run the hell away from them-- do not poke them with sharp sticks.
Or, you know, maybe call the cops with a noise complaint.
Chill out with this self defense crap, Travis. The guy was not threatening you-- he was annoying you. Then you decide to *follow* him and act all crazy honking your horn and shit. What do you expect him to think? What do you expect him to do?
If that guy who chased you to the police station *had* gotten his hands on you, there's no way in hell you'd win with self-defense, even *if* your candy-ass won the fight. Because *you* started the fight. *You* got out of your house and followed a complete stranger to his house (is that legal?-- stalking?). *You* started acting crazy toward him with your horn-honking. *You* were a willing participant in whatever shit was going to go down next-- just because you hadn't thought it through doesn't mean you weren't.
Read this page [nononsense...efense.com].
Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. (Score:3, Informative)
Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. (Score:3, Insightful)
Damn, we get off topic tonight, or what?
On topic, you could mod your iPod to broadcast either white space (silence) onto the guy's radio, or broadcast maximum output and volume in the 12 to 30 Hz range (extreme bass, will blow his shit right up.)
Off topic
As for the theatrics, you were asking for it. If I am driving around minding my own business and someone gets out of his house, gets in his car, f
Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. (Score:3, Funny)
Yeah, it's getting so you can't even follow around gangsters in your car honking angrily at them without them chasing you back anymore.
Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. (Score:3, Informative)
Tell the RIAA (Score:4, Funny)
Since they probably sink all their dough into their cars, they might lose their cars in the settlement. :)
Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. (Score:4, Insightful)
The only way to NOT throw your vote away is to vote for whom you honestly WANT to win. Elswise you keep electing the same crooks who have no worries they migh lose thier jobs if they don't shape up.
When you vote lesser of two evils your saying "go ahead and keep screwing me, I won't do anything about it" and incouraging them.
And ccw is Carry of a Concealed weapon permit.
More and more states are making these available, some on a shall issue basis, as they see the benifits of lower crime in other states that have done so.
Mycroft
Yeah, not to mention (Score:3, Insightful)
Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... (Score:5, Insightful)
As a side note, living in Oakland I've developed the viewpoint that it's far better to just ignore the boom cars and go about your business. It might be cool with the wannabes in Nebraska, but around here you're just begging to need an appointment with your local auto body shop to get a bunch of 9mm holes Bondo-ed.
Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... (Score:2, Interesting)
Come visit the DFW, Texas area. That's exactly what's on the radio, all the time. You get about 2 songs an hour, the rest are adverts for enlargements, sex toys, cheap pills, and debt-dodging.
Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... (Score:2)
-B
Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... (Score:3, Funny)
"Come visit the DFW, Texas area. That's exactly what's on the radio, all the time."
As you say, this is Texas. <shrugs shoulders>
Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... (Score:5, Insightful)
Won't happen. An FM broadcast can be tracked down easily, and you wouldn't be affecting a large enough number of people to make it worthwhile.
You'll be more susceptible to unauthorized broadcasts with satellite than with terrestrial... once people get their hands on them. If this becomes popular, I'm sure they will start being sold.
Get a gun of your own, and a continuous-loop camera in your car.
The big difference between Nebraska and Oakland is that the public in Nebraska wouldn't put up with that. If you are willing to just close your eyes, and pretend that nothing is happening, it won't ever stop. Sometimes people really do resemble cattle.
Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... (Score:3, Insightful)
Why, pray tell, is it easier to make unauthorized broadcasts on satellite radio band than any other band?
-Jesse
Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... (Score:3, Informative)
Power budget analysis:
The satellite might have a few dB of advantage considering relative power, but I think the EIRP of those birds is pretty low ... certainly less than +50dBm ... so even if I'm using a true QRPppppp (say one milliwatt) transmitter, I've still got 67 dB on the satellite
Haha (Score:5, Funny)
great idea, but would never work... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:great idea, but would never work... (Score:2, Insightful)
(As an aside, I've actually had radio stations I was listening to fade partially out and started hearing whatever someone driving past me was playing because of this).
I think if stuff like this starts happening on a larger scale, we might start seeing
Re:great idea, but would never work... (Score:3, Informative)
As I understood it, the broadcasting antenna is placed right next to the receiving antenna, pretty much overpowering any other signal to that antenna
Re:great idea, but would never work... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:great idea, but would never work... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:great idea, but would never work... (Score:4, Funny)
But that would leave us at the mercy of half-feline genetically altered supersoldiers who ride bikes and deliver packages. Granted, they are extremely cute and can get into positions even gymnasts have trouble with...
Forget my objection, I'm with you all the way.
Re:great idea, but would never work... (Score:5, Insightful)
First, to become your own pirate broadcast station you'll need to increase the range and signal of your iTrip mini. Turns out, there is an antennae built inside the iTrip mini. All you need to do is remove the top sticker-like protection which hides the antennae and then using tweezers or your fingernail, pull the antennae out. We've found a 20% to 30% increase of range on average.
Huh? A 25% increase in range is only equivalent to a 50% increase in power (the inverse square law). I can't see how a 50% increase in power is going to matter, when our iTrip has never been able to override even the weakest station on the dial.
Re:great idea, but would never work... (Score:3, Insightful)
Pan
YAY! (Score:5, Funny)
no, (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:no, (Score:3, Funny)
the people playing gangsta rap at insane volumes are NOT using the radio to do it. CDs and/or mp3s.
Plus, they're not the ones who annoy me...
It's those commies and their NPR...
A better title... (Score:5, Interesting)
After all, this can be done with just about any source. An iPod is not required. In fact you can get parts to make a much stronger FM transmiter at radio shack for far less that can be used with any MP3/tape/record/8track player.
Re:A better title... (Score:2)
I understand that they are a great device and I have even thought once or twice about buying one but I certainly don't think that every article that gets put into the queue with an iPod in the title should be accepted.
Let's show some class and end the blatant iPod advertising.
Atricle Text (Score:4, Informative)
How-To Tuesday: Make your own Pirate Radio Station with an iPod
Posted Jun 15, 2004, 11:07 AM ET by Phillip Torrone
Related entries: Portable Audio, Wireless
This was going to be "How-To increase the range of your iTrip mini". But after playing around with the new iTrip mini, the FM broadcasting accessory for the iPod (our review here) our little minds got working on some ideas. We thought we might be able to make the range of Griffin's iTrip mini a little better if took it apart and exposed the antenna, turns out we could. And then we thought, hey- we could use a couple iPods to broadcast something we wanted to get out there, perhaps not "should" that is, but could. So that was our motivation, and here's the How-To.
Ingredients:
* 1 iPod mini
* 1 iTrip mini
* Optional: Addition iPods, iTalks and iTrips
Getting Started
First, to become your own pirate broadcast station you'll need to increase the range and signal of your iTrip mini. Turns out, there is an antennae built inside the iTrip mini. All you need to do is remove the top sticker-like protection which hides the antennae and then using tweezers or your fingernail, pull the antennae out. We've found a 20% to 30% increase of range on average. This likely voids the warranty, so there, we said it.
Next up, if you're using the iTrip mini, then you know that you can install all the stations on the dial to broadcast on. At first we we're really sure we'd ever use them, but now we have good reason. So make sure you've installed all the stations, on the go you might need them to switch to. Remember, the iTrip is a FM broadcasting device, intended to broadcast 10 to 30 feet to a FM radio.
Next, choose your broadcast, it can be any song or a spoken word MP3, don't worry we have a few suggestions. A lot depends on the situation you're in.
Pirate Broadcasts
We usually keep a couple tracks of silence ready to go, ever get stuck at a stop light for like 10 minutes and the dude in the next car is blasting the radio? With the super easy iPod interface you can quickly get to the station he's on and send over whatever you want, a couple gentle ocean waves or birds usually works out great.
If you've ever gone to the Gym, or starred in to one from the outside- you'll notice the TVs are muted and set to broadcast on specific FM frequencies, folks then tune in their radio headsets to whatever station to listen to the audio as they exercise. Now we're not suggesting you go around and broadcast over CNN or anything, but we think broadcasting "Aliens have landed today, the President and UN will be making an announcement immediately" could be quite fun. We'll be trying this out with our gym pals who are usually up for a good gag.
There are other times where you simply need to broadcast back. Let's say you're at the park, enjoying a nice quiet day with your family- then comes along someone blasting the radio. We've found broadcasting a silent track tends to work nicely, sure you need to be within 30 to 40 feet, but no one will even suspect that their FM broadcast is getting usurped by you.
Advanced Pirate Radio Broadcasting techniques
We've also discovered another fun example. If you use the iTalk, Griffin's voice recorder accessory with 2g/3g iPod you can record your pirate broadcast on the fly, pop in the iTrip and start broadcasting. Usually pretending to be an omnipotent being and asking folks to build a water proof car, drive across the English Channel with two of every gadget gets some interesting reactions.
Now, if you really get in to this- you could easily increase the range even more, google around for ways to do this- we're working on a few and will let you know too. You can additionally use multiple iPods, when you're broadcasting something like a silent track, you and a pal can cover more area and really surround the FM receiver. And finally, there are also a lot of other things which use FM that you can discover and broadcast to, happy hunting.
This concludes our broadcast. Send comments and ideas to torrone@gmail.com
Re:Atricle Text (Score:3, Informative)
ever want to silence a website... (Score:5, Funny)
that's what I love (Score:5, Funny)
This is why I come to slashdot: news without bias or snide remarks
Re:that's what I love (Score:2, Funny)
But it's just FM Radio (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:But it's just FM Radio (Score:3, Insightful)
Just remember there's nothing preventing you from being a victim of this sort of thing.
Re:But it's just FM Radio (Score:3, Funny)
You could be a fool much cheaper back in my day (Score:3, Funny)
the article (Score:5, Informative)
Re:FreeCache (Score:3, Informative)
Naw, I just (Score:5, Funny)
directed EMF pulse *much* better (Score:3, Funny)
[EMF=elecro-magnetic frequency]
Great way to get yourself shot. (Score:4, Insightful)
Not to mention the fact that it's probably illegal. DMCA, FCC, RIAA - need I go on?
Hey! (Score:3, Funny)
What if I am that guy?
Slashdotted Already? (Score:2, Funny)
Hmm... (Score:2, Insightful)
However, I generally find that most people who drive in my area use CDs or MP3s, as the radio simply sucks in this area. While they may play Viagra and penis-enlargment ads in D/FW, in Houston, they just babble incoherently...or play nothing but Britney Spears or Crap-Country. Even more, they're killing our sole classical station to make way for a Christian contemporary station (something else we don't need). Given this situation,
You are missing the potential (Score:3, Funny)
Remember to do this to only the stations that you like!
I have a better idea... (Score:2)
heh (Score:3, Funny)
Heh. I love stories like this. Makes me feel like Evil MacGuyver.
Out of curiosity... (Score:3, Insightful)
I only just bought my IPOD and had to RMA it (Score:3, Funny)
Uhhhh.... (Score:5, Insightful)
Let's forget about the fm capture effect for a minute (the most powerful station on a signal will be the only one de-modulated) and think. Don't most people with loud amps just have a CD player with "Ultrabass volume IX" or something rather than actually listening to the radio?
Is this slashdot or some shitty zine put together by highschool age "hackers"?
This isn't anti-sound. (Score:5, Informative)
Silence Machine Article 1 [techtarget.com]
Silence> Machine Article 2 [newscientist.com]
not pirate radio (Score:5, Informative)
RIAA (Score:3, Funny)
I call Shenanigans! (Score:4, Interesting)
Bear with me, I'm not going to go into details when I can't draw pictures.
If you have two signals at the same frequency arriving at the radio at the same time, they'll overlap, not cancel. Let's say you're broadcasting the "blank" signal at, say, 100 MHz. The radio will receive a constant 100MHz signal.
The way FM works is by changing the phase of the broadcasting signal in relation to the unmodulated signal. So, you'll get the silent signal (which will be unmodulated) and the real signal (modulated). The radio will process BOTH signals - they use processors to decode the signals. I don't know if you know this, but they're kind of fast now. They can handle multiple singals.
If you broadcast another audio signal, you'll get the two audio signals overlapping. Keep in mind that you're putting your tiny little iPod wire up against a great big dirty commerical broadcasting antenna. If you win, I'd wager that the Feds are going to want to ask you a few questions.
They haven't done this in real life. If you say you have, then you're lying. Of course, I'm just an Electronics Engineer - what do I know?
What's next, accepting articles from weekly world news? This isn't fark.
Re:I call Shenanigans! (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:I call Shenanigans! (Score:4, Informative)
Which ever signal is strongest at the receiver will "win" and be heard. If the signals are too close in strength, you won't get either properly.
With a commercial transmitter putting out several KW's but being 50 miles away and you putting out 100MW but being several yards away it is quite possible you will win out.
BTW, this is exactly what these products do. You don't need to be on an unused frequency (trying finding one of those in the Bay Area) Of course it helps quite a bit if the commercial signal is weak and easier to overcome.
What the? (Score:4, Funny)
I was driving along Tuesday listening to NPR and all of a sudden rap started coming out my radio.
I thought this was odd, because it cut in suddenly and clear as a bell.
I then noticed that the closer I came to the Cadillac in front of me the clearer the signal became, and at certain distance from the car NPR would cut back in.
I just thought it was some new annoying technology that I hoped wouldn't catch on too soon.
It's a great way for kids to annoy other people with their music without the cops catching on and citing them for noise ordinances.
Small world.
Or if you are into 802.11 mesh systems (Score:3, Interesting)
FM radio, I think not. (Score:3, Insightful)
A better use would be to take this in a store that plays a radio station acorss their PA sytem (non sat-based radio of course).
Re:FM radio, I think not. (Score:3, Informative)
Ask any CB'er who has a linear amp.
How about an EMP? (Score:5, Funny)
Sounds like fun doesn't it? Sure does... now how can I create an EMP big enough to do it? Anyone got plans and a parts list for Radio Shack?
The title of this article is misleading (Score:3, Insightful)
This type of transmitter generates at or below the 100 mw permitted for completely unlicensed radio transmissions by FCC regulations. It is not "pirate" as this form of unlicensed radio transmitter is completely legal.
Re:The title of this article is misleading (Score:3, Informative)
Better Solution - SPARK GAP TRANSMITTER (Score:5, Funny)
Ummm... what? (Score:4, Insightful)
Sorry, but I was a little disappointed. I went to the site expecting to find perhaps some hardware hacking info on the iTrip for boosting its output, or something like that... but come on now... has slashdot really gotten to the point where "if you pull the antenna out of the case, your signal will improve!"
I mean, really. That whole thing did not take any bit of genious, or even the slightest bit of creativity. Geez... thats what the iTrip is for. Broadcasting... and it isnt the best around for that either... there are better version, and in fact, you can even get fm broadcaster kits with a good deal more transmit power than the iTrip has...
But still, I dont see whats so special here. They are using an iPod and an FM broadcaster to do exactly what they were meant for... nothing new or special here.
Maybe just a slow news day or something...
Re:Very cool idea... (Score:2)
Umm . . yea .