Apple Releases iTunes 4.6 129
sinclair44 writes "Apple has released iTunes 4.6. The new version 'includes support for playing your music wirelessly using AirPort Express with AirTunes. It also includes a number of other minor enhancements.' The update is also available in Mac OS X's Software Update."
Disables Hymn-ed songs? (Score:5, Interesting)
One poster in the macrumors forums claims that songs de-DRMed through Hymn no longer play [macrumors.com].
Can anyone verify?
Re:Disables Hymn-ed songs? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Disables Hymn-ed songs? (Score:5, Informative)
This computer is not authorized to play "I Woke Up Screaming"
This song was originally purchased using the account "myaccountname@mac.com"
So they do seem to be checking something. And calling out those who share hymn-ed files. Not sure how the macrumors fellow is getting his to play....
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Re:Disables Hymn-ed songs? (Score:2)
also, since hymn says it can't extract the DRM key, it appears it isn't even accessing the information about the user who purchased the song
Re:Disables Hymn-ed songs? (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm not quite sure why Apple did this. The reason the new version of Hymn leaves all the tags in is to discourage piracy, but I imagine the next version will probably revert to stripping all tags out. It seems like Apple is not only going to be pissing off a lot of people by doing this, but they're also going to be making piracy easier in the long term.
Re:Disables Hymn-ed songs? (Score:4, Insightful)
My guess is that in order to keep the RIAA happy, Apple has to "fix" FairPlay anytime a drm-breaking scheme comes up. No matter that what you said makes perfect sense, you have to remember we are talking RIAA here, and making sense doesn't seem to be in their playbook.
Just strip the tags to play the de-DRM'd files (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Disables Hymn-ed songs? (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:Disables Hymn-ed songs? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Disables Hymn-ed songs? (Score:1)
If anything, this will just discourage Hymn from leaving information in the files which identifies them.
Blibbler
Re:Disables Hymn-ed songs? (Score:1)
Blibbler
Re:Disables Hymn-ed songs? (Score:1)
Yes, it does.. here's how to fix: (Score:5, Informative)
Open the Hymn'ed song in a hex editor.. Look for "geID" or something with "ID" as the last two characters there. I'm not sure if it's always the same or not. Anyway, change this to "xxID" and save it. Then try the file in iTunes again.
Or wait for a new Hymn to remove the ID entirely.
Or just don't install 4.6. It doesn't add a whole heck of a lot of functionality except for compatibility with that new wireless access point/stereo output thing they've got coming out.
Frankly, this was an *extremely* stupid move by Apple. What's the point? Look, people can crack the DRM, okay. But the programs tried to be nice by leaving the ID in there. The point was to enable fair use, not to enable file sharing. By leaving the ID in there, it makes it extremely easy to figure out who illegally shared their purchased music. People using it for fair use purposes wouldn't be sharing the music, and so they have no worries about the ID being there or not.
This "fix" by Apple just makes it HARDER for them to actually catch anybody sharing music. Because now a new version will be created to remove the ID as well, and thus make files that are indistinguishable from normally ripped and encoded ones. Now somebody shares music, and there's no way to track them down. How STUPID can Apple be? Seriously? This is just freakin' preposterous.
Re:Yes, it does.. here's how to fix: (Score:4, Insightful)
Good relations with the RIAA. iTMS dies without the RIAA. Period, end of story. If Apple doesn't at least play by a basic set of rules, the RIAA will roll up and move to another service even more restrictive and iTMS dies.
So which would you rather? Having to remove a tag, or having no iTMS to begin with?
Re:Yes, it does.. here's how to fix: (Score:3, Insightful)
Frankly, I don't give a shit whether the iTMS is there or not. If they don't want to sell music to me online, then I'll simply get it from P2P systems like I did before.
Here's the deal. The RIAA has no leverage power. Yes, they have the music, but I, the customer, have the cash. If they don't want to sell to me, fuck 'em. I'll obtain my music some other way. If they try to make a more restrictive service, fuck 'em, I'll ei
Actually, this is a good thing (Score:3, Interesting)
Only on the local subnet though... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Only on the local subnet though... (Score:2)
MP3s still work fine (Score:3, Informative)
Re:MP3s still work fine (Score:1)
Hmmm
If you don't notice the significant audio degredation from decoding a lossy format and then re-encoding with a different lossy format
Re:MP3s still work fine (Score:3, Informative)
Hardly any time is wasted. CD-RW's can be burned and ripped while you're doing something else.
No plastic is wasted, CD-RW's are reusable, supposedly thousands of times.
The metadata (song title, album title, genre, etc.) isn't lost in the burn/re-rip cycle. iTunes stores the data on the CD somehow.
Re:MP3s still work fine (Score:1)
OK, if you don't mind using two or three times more disk space.
Hardly any time is wasted. CD-RW's can be burned and ripped while you're doing something else.
Also a good point, although the time is certainly > 0. You have to arrange the songs into disk-length sets, unwrap the CD, insert the CD, etc.
No plastic is wasted, CD-RW's are reusable, supposedly thousands of times.
CD-RWs are a good idea. I gave up on them after I had se
Re:MP3s still work fine (Score:2)
And how exactly can you have accidental FUD?
Re:Disables Hymn-ed songs? (Score:1)
Tracks processed with recent versions of hYmn don't play, and display a message saying the machine isn't authorized to play the track, even though the original track is authorized to play on that machine, and the original track continues to play fine.
Considering that the hex edit hack offered in another post here works, it seems that the file is just looking for that non standar
Other minor enhancements? (Score:1)
Re:Other minor enhancements? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Other minor enhancements? (Score:4, Informative)
It might be interesting to note that the changes in the licensing terms are only for the newly bought songs in 4.5, i.e. for the songs you already purchased before upgrading to 4.5, the old terms still apply.
That aside, nothing changes in the licensing terms from iTunes 4.5 to 4.6.
Re:Other minor enhancements? (Score:2)
So long as you continued to use the old version. If you upgraded to 4.5, the new restrictions apply to all songs purchased.
Another Change? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Another Change? (Score:5, Informative)
And yeah, I can confirm that 4.6 has fixed it.
Re:Another Change? (Score:1)
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Re:Another Change? (Score:1)
Re:Another Change? (Score:2)
Goblin
(I realise this contributed very little to the topic)
Re:Another Change? (Score:3, Informative)
In my own testing, I found that connecting to a iTunes 4.6 shared song library of 13000+ tracks over my 100mb LAN from a machine running iTunes 4.5 or 4.6 takes about 10 seconds. Connecting to the same shared library over standard (11mb) Airport takes about 13 seconds.
700GB Library (Score:1, Offtopic)
AirTunes (Score:4, Interesting)
Can't wait to get my hands on this tonight!
Re:AirTunes (Score:3, Informative)
Re:AirTunes (Score:2, Informative)
As it is now, I probably won't buy one. I've got an iPod with a dock wired to the MD input on my stereo. Not much improvement to have to walk back to the iMac just to switch playlists. No, I haven't forgotten the wireless components, it's just not quite what I need.
Re:AirTunes (Score:2)
Re:AirTunes (Score:5, Informative)
Here are some explanation:
http://homepage.mac.com/craigamiller/iblog/C672
-B
Re:AirTunes coming to your home theatre soon (Score:5, Insightful)
Originally posted here [blogspot.com].
Re:AirTunes coming to your home theatre soon (Score:1)
That's pretty insightful --
An AirPort Express with a composite video out for connection to a TV would be a stroke of genius.
Re:AirTunes coming to your home theatre soon (Score:2)
Re:Check out Squeezebox Synchronize feature (Score:1)
Re:Good news (Score:5, Informative)
Control the multiple streams (Score:2, Interesting)
Basically set up a playlist, play it as your multiple users, and control it with one final user (adding/deleting tracks).
Re:Good news (Score:2)
Re:Good news (Score:1)
Has something changed? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Has something changed? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:AirTunes (Score:2, Insightful)
Has anyone discovered... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Has anyone discovered... (Score:4, Informative)
Mod Parent Down -1 Bullshit (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Has anyone discovered... (Score:2)
Re:Has anyone discovered... (Score:1)
Jeebus. Either I got ahold of some mystery installer, or my system is different than everyone else. I actually *do* have better things to do with my time, people.
Screenshots: http://homepage.mac.com/bbuchs/PhotoAlbum2.html [mac.com]
Re:Has anyone discovered... (Score:2)
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Airport Express availability? (Score:2, Informative)
Oh great, iTunes 4.6 is out, but now Apple are having problems fulfilling orders for the Airport Express units that make use of the new features. I ordered 2 on Monday (from the UK Apple Store) with an estimated ship time of 3 days. Received an email this morning telling me that it's going to be mid-July before they will be available.
Anyone know a reason why? Too many orders? Problems with the unit? Announced too early?
Re:Airport Express availability? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Airport Express availability? (Score:2)
Just checked my order confirmation, definitely says "Est Build Time" is 3 days.
Re:Airport Express availability? (Score:1)
Re:Airport Express availability? (Score:4, Informative)
That wasn't on the page on Monday, and 3 days was the availability. Here's a copy of the email received this morning notifying me of the change in availability:
Re:Airport Express availability? (Score:2)
Re:Airport Express availability? (Score:1)
They announced, you can buy, but no streaming tunes 'til mid-july.
And it rhymes.
England (Score:2)
-fred
Re:Airport Express availability? (Score:2)
Just feel lucky you can even order one. Here in Canada Apple updated their website to announce the AirPort Express, with the addded disclaimer that it's availability is subject to regulatory approval here in Canada.
http://www.apple.com/ca/airportexpress/ [apple.com]
I'm already running an AirPort Extreme base station, but the added ability to stream digital music to my home theatre system and the ability to have a portable wireless base station I can take with me while travelling makes the AirPort Express a pretty u
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Reverse engineering the broadcast protocol (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Reverse engineering the broadcast protocol (Score:2)
Re:Reverse engineering the broadcast protocol (Score:3, Informative)
iTunes sharing / DAAP / TunesBrowser / GetTunes. (Score:5, Interesting)
I've updated my iTunes webpage [craz.net] to mention this.
Anyhow, one really cool feature that it seems to add for that AirTunes stuff is the ability to 'push' music upwards, rather than just pull down. This will allow one to control remote devices (what music is playing). Now I just can't wait to get my hands on an (Australian) AirPort Express [apple.com.au] device to reverse it. I can already think of a tonne of applications for this.
Re:iTunes sharing / DAAP / TunesBrowser / GetTunes (Score:1)
I'm dying for one but if I have to wait til July like US ppl in the above posts have to, I'd rather wait till that pay check... unless they dont take your money untill its ready to ship???
Re:iTunes sharing / DAAP / TunesBrowser / GetTunes (Score:2)
Re:iTunes sharing / DAAP / TunesBrowser / GetTunes (Score:2)
Re:iTunes sharing / DAAP / TunesBrowser / GetTunes (Score:4, Interesting)
First, the iTunes program is re-encoding everything into Apple Lossless, then sending that wirelessly to the Airport Express station. So if you want to get a head start, start reverse-engineering that.
Even when that's done, there's still one other small problem; apparently Apple is encrypting the music streams sent to said Airport Express stations.
He said the presentation he downloaded wasn't particularly clear on either of these two points so I could be wrong here, but it sounds very plausible to me.
Re:iTunes sharing / DAAP / TunesBrowser / GetTunes (Score:3, Interesting)
It looks from the binary that the encryption is aes. It shouldn't be too hard to break their aes key.
I'm surprised there isn't already someone doing the apple lossless codec.
A nice feature to have (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:A nice feature to have (Score:2, Informative)
Re:A nice feature to have (Score:2)
Re:A nice feature to have (Score:2)
On a side note, where's the goodies for the Windows version? Where's the visualizations, scripts, add-ons and plugins? Come on, It's been out for over 6 months now!
Windows plugins (Score:2)
Re:A nice feature to have (Score:3, Informative)
It works very well and is cool looking to boot
Re:A nice feature to have (Score:2, Informative)
What about no pauses between tracks? (Score:2)
Re:What about no pauses between tracks? (Score:2)
Re:What about no pauses between tracks? (Score:2)
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Re:So, I'm still wondering... (Score:3, Insightful)
Yup, and I'm one of them ;).
However, the original poster wasn't asking Apple to write a Window Manager or anything -- they just want iTunes for Linux.
Why would Apple want to do this? Probably because the iPod and iTunes Music Store are two of their biggest money makers, and extending their reach would only serve to increase those profits.
Unfortunately, I can't see them actuall
Re:So, I'm still wondering... (Score:2)
Re:So, I'm still wondering... (Score:2)
This is false. Apple announced a 'small profit' on the iTMS. Yes, that includes costs. Profit is AFTER costs. This rumor came up because one 'journalist' (or 'analyst' or whatever) posted something that said 'I don't see how they can be profitable' and then another one posted 'this business model couldn't possibly be profitable' and another one posted 'the iTunes Music Service can't be profitable' and then, finally, that turned into 'they
Re:Compliations... (Score:1)
To test it, I had found an artist that had just one track, changed the info so that it was part of a compilation and then checked my list of all artists to see if that artist was still there, which it was. So I thought they had removed this feature.
Turns out, you need to reload iTunes for the all artists list to be updated. So it would seem there is a bug in their bug^Wfeature.
Re:Compliations... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Compliations... (Score:1)
Now, how do you map F-keys to an apple script without any sort of third-party software like Youpi... surely OSX has that functionality built in?
Re:Compliations... (Score:2)
OT: This makes me wonder... (Score:1)
In American English:
Clearly the second example uses 'country' as a collective noun. (It *could* be a metaphor instead, anthropomorphizing the country, but that's not what it conveys.) You could substitute the word 'class' or 'comp