Cubase SX for Mac OS X is Shipping 32
An anonymous reader writes "Steinberg's flagship Cubase SX is shipping now, with support for CoreAudio, CoreMidi, VST Plugin support, Rewire, and REXort.
Now only ProTools and Digital Performer are left on the Mac OS 9 side. When do they follow?" Well, ProTools for Mac OS X has already been announced.
Now only ProTools and Digital Performer are left on the Mac OS 9 side. When do they follow?" Well, ProTools for Mac OS X has already been announced.
Complex tools better? (Score:2, Interesting)
Is there a Sound Recorder equivalent for OSX (other than Quicktime)?
Ramblings Re:Complex tools better? (Score:1)
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Re:Complex tools better? (Score:2)
That's fine if you just want to mix some audio tracks together. Cubase is not meant to be an audio editor. But for complex songs that wouldn't work well.
I use Cubase VST/32. I use VST instruments for drum tracks, and keys, record all the guitar and bass tracks, usually as segments, sort of like working with a drum machine.
This makes arraigning the song quite easy! Also Cubase has all kinds of effect plug-ins, etc.,
I still use an external editor most of the time (either PeakDV or SparkME when in OS X) for loops and stuff.
I've been waiting for this upgrade, it will be nice to not have to boot into OS 9.2 to work on music. :)
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Re:Needs Jaguar, unfortunately (Score:3, Interesting)
Then 10.4 (or 11.0) will come out, and that will be another full-pay upgrade and you'll have another period of time where you'll be frustrated. At least, that's would be most consistent with Apple's release schedule so far.
I'd advise biting the bullet and getting in synch with Apple... you'll be less frustrated in the end, IMO. Fighting Steve is a lost cause... Steve gets what Steve wants.
Re:Needs Jaguar, unfortunately (Score:5, Informative)
If you look at the real guts of 10.1 versus the real guts of 10.2, you'll see that 10.2 was a substantial feature upgrade. Lots of new stuff came with 10.2, while 10.1 was mostly a performance upgrade with a few new features. If you ever used 10.0, you'll agree, I imagine, that a performance upgrade was really welcome when 10.1 came out.
But Mac OS X is not Linux; they don't use an odd-number, even-number release gimmick. They have never used such a gimmick. Some releases are minor feature releases and are available for free or only a little cost. Some releases are major ones for which Apple charges a reasonable, not nontrivial, fee.
So when you say, "10.3 will almost certainly be a free... upgrade..." I really think you're kind of talking out of your ear. No offense.
And the thing about "Steve gets what Steve wants?" What's that all about? Are you just grumpy today, or is it your usual thing?
Re:Needs Jaguar, unfortunately (Score:1)
As it turns out, googling did not reveal what you're talking about. Unless you have something more to offer than "somebody at Apple said," I'm afraid I have to conclude that you're just talking out of your ear on this. No offense, but when an anonymous coward posts information with no sources and says, "google for it," ninety-nine times out of a hundred he's just making stuff up.
Can you do better than this?
Re:Needs Jaguar, unfortunately (Score:3, Informative)
Many people pointed out that:
- 10.0 was a full price product.
- 10.1 was a free upgrade ($20 for shipping) to 10.0
- 10.2 was a full price product.
They pointed out that Apple has a history of charging for every other point one upgrade. They speculated 10.3 would follow the pattern and be a free upgrade. Of course the question is, do you have to have 10.2 installed for the upgrade version to work?
As a user of 10.2, it's worth it. It's smoother, faster. Quartz Extreme greatly lessened the load on my TiBook. The anti-spam support in Mail is easily worth $40 (119 messages filtered in the past four days). Other updates and additions to Terminal, Finder, and the OS in general quickly make up for the other $90.
Re:Needs Jaguar, unfortunately (Score:3, Insightful)
To me, it's what's inside that matters, not what they choose to call it.
Sorry you were so late to the OSX game to begin with.
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Re:Needs Jaguar, unfortunately (Score:4, Insightful)
The reason Cubase needs 10.2 is because Core Audio was not finished when 10.1 was released.
So you might as well get Jaguar now, which runs great BTW. The next upgrade (10.2.5?) should be free.
Also, 10.2 is not a "point" upgrade, you are basing this on your own idea of how Apple should name OS releases, and not their idea. When the seond number changes, it's a major update. 10.2.1 is a point release, as will be the next few updates.
DP for OS X announced months ago (Score:2)
I forgot my passwd, it's been so long since I posted. Anyways, they've had it running for a while, I think they're still working on hardware drivers (all of their midi and audio drivers for X are still listed as BETA, I think).
-FreqUnkn
No no no no! (Score:4, Interesting)
[rant] Am I the only composer on the face of the planet who wants Finale [codamusic.com] to be ported to OS X? It's an industry standard for producing professional-quality scores. Their website says "Runs under classic mode," which I translate into "too much hassle to port." But there's a 2003 version. ARGH. [/rant]
Triv
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As it turns out, Sibelius, which I avoided for almost a year, is a FAR better program. It, like all pro apps, takes some getting used to, but it is a very powerful app.
Digital Preformer Release (Score:2, Informative)
Any suggestions on a sound tools to fit my needs? (Score:1)
Roxio Toast (Score:2, Informative)
Do you still have old cassette tapes or vinyl LPs? Use CD Spin Doctor, included with Toast 5 Titanium, to turn those scratchy records or cassette tapes into high fidelity CDs. Here are just a few CD Spin Doctor features:
Re:Roxio Toast (Score:1)
I purchased roxio and tried it out in 10.1 months ago and was quite disappointed. Spin Doctor records an album to one large file, and only supports writing to CD rather than to a sequence of aiff files.
Spin Doctor also required that I record, run filters, mark begin and end for tracks, add title info, and burn to cd, all in sequence. Several times the program crashed and I had to start over with a new recording.
As a FreeBSD and OpenStep user I found the tool to be shoddy and to have that somehow condescending stink of Carbon. Tools should do one or a few things well, and read/write using standard types. Roxio and Spin Doctor did do one or two things well, but did not allow me to do anything else using other tools unless I burned a CD, read it back in as aiff then processed those files before burning the CDs I eventually want. It also used lots of cpu when idle and crashed several times.
I would rather spend my money on a fleet of separate applets, each reliable and each performing one task well, than spend any money on an app which may do a couple of things well but which wastes my time by enforcing its idea of workflow on me. I also have no patience for tools which do not support services and standards thus making it either hard or impossible to use it to perform only the parts of the job it does well.
Sorry for the rant, but I've been quite pissed off recently by the really shoddy quality of some big name carbon apps. I've used Appkit apps since 1991, and can see and feel the difference.
So are there any tools out there which I can use to record albums, split them into aiff files and perform filtering? I'll use iTunes to listen and record to CD. Again, 100% Cocoa is a plus obviously. Despite the above rant I am open to using a really good little Carbon tool, but I'll take some convincing.
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