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Does the iPhone 15 Have an Overheating Problem? (digitaltrends.com) 57

Posted by BeauHD from the HeatGate dept.
Some early adopters of Apple's iPhone 15 have taken to social media to complain about overheating issues. Digital Trends' Bryan Wolfe writes: Over the past few days, various user complaints have popped up online by iPhone 15 owners saying their new devices are overheating. Some, for example, have taken to the Apple discussion groups to express their dismay, while others have left messages on Reddit and elsewhere. New smartphones commonly heat up more than usual during setup and in the first 24 hours of use, even those not manufactured by Apple. The issues being reported may have occurred during these instances. Speaking from personal experience, Android Authority's Aamir Siddiqui said he, too, has noticed his iPhone 15 Pro Max running very hot, even after the initial 24 hours of setup and settling in.

Korean YouTuber BullsLab also captured high temperatures using a thermal camera.
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  • Why you cryin? It's a feature.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Bongo ( 13261 )

      It's the warm glow of knowing that mother nature approves of you phone choice.

      (IAaIPU)

    • [joke?]Now, that might be nice in the depths of Winter (UK). Last year's Winter was quite bollocking, to the extent where mounting my space heater, without buying it dinner first, occasionally almost seemed like it might be a good idea.[/joke?]

    • I'm sure Apple can push out a "fix" to reduce the CPU speed and keep it cool.

      They've done it before to make batteries last longer.

  • You're holding it wrong (Score:3, Funny)

    by RightwingNutjob ( 1302813 ) on Monday September 25, 2023 @08:09PM (#63876905)

    Or you're holding the thermal imager wrong.

    Or maybe you're just too sinful for iphone and you're feeling the hellfire.

    Anything other than Apple fucking up something as basic as a right click...I mean thermal design.

    • You’re holding its temperature wrong, obviously that’s room temperature heating but this really shines when it’s chilly out and enters it’s toasty fingers mode.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      The problem is people want high performance phones, but don't understand what temperatures are an actual problem.

      Say the CPU hits 80 degrees. That's not an actual problem, as long as 80 C is the max and it's not thermal throttling. It won't melt. The user may be pretty alarmed though, especially if the body of the phone is starting to burn their hand.

      Duration is also a factor. high heat occasionally is fine, but all the time will wear out the battery faster.

      One advantage of having a glass back is that glass

      • Batteries don't like temperature extremes.

        Insulation may protect the user's hand but does so at the expense of trapping heat inside the phone.

        Semiconductors don't melt at those temperatures, but depending on how close to the margin they're made to operate, they may begin to have faults from thermal voltage fluctuations pushing some transistors from off to on some fraction of the time time that's too much for any error correction (if it exists) to tolerate.

        All of these facts are true generalities, which is t

  • I noticed for most of the beta period that my iPhone 11 was running hot, occasionally requiring me to take it out of its case so it could complete certain tasks. At the time I thought it was just a problem with the beta, but this news makes me think someone removed some sort of limiter and now iPhones are just running way harder (and hotter) than they normally would.

    • Re:Might be an iOS problem (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Shakrai ( 717556 ) on Monday September 25, 2023 @08:50PM (#63876971) Journal

      I guarantee you this is software bug(s) that will be ironed out. Also why I'm not jumping on the IOS 17 bandwagon until at least the first non-security update comes out. The iPhone 15 people don't have that option, it shipped with 17, but the folks with older phones who have been around for any amount of time know not to jump on the first version of a major release from Apple. Smart to apply that same logic to any OS, lol, I stall major MacOS and Windows Feature Updates eight weeks before I let them into my environment, then roll them out a limited number of users, and only after four more weeks without a line of torches and pitchforks outside my office will I release them to the rest of the organization.

      Phones suck at cooling anyway, no phone (and a distressingly small number of modern laptops, sigh, thin ain't always better OEMs....) can handle running at full CPU/GPU capacity for any useful amount of time. It's either what you say, someone goofed on a CPU throttler, or there's just a bug that's consuming more CPU than it should.

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by dgatwood ( 11270 )

        I guarantee you this is software bug(s) that will be ironed out. Also why I'm not jumping on the IOS 17 bandwagon until at least the first non-security update comes out. The iPhone 15 people don't have that option, it shipped with 17, but the folks with older phones who have been around for any amount of time know not to jump on the first version of a major release from Apple.

        Yup. And the reason we know it's a software bug is because it is happening on the non-pro iPhone 15, which is basically just an iPhone 14 Pro under the hood with a different camera, a cheaper screen, smaller maximum flash capacity, and a USB-C connector instead of Lightning. Same CPU as before, same RAM, etc. If there were a heat problem caused by hardware, it would have been happening for the last year on the 14 Pro, realistically speaking.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

          Are the two CPUs running with the same power profile though? Apple made a big deal of the titanium body, which acts as a heatsink, so may well have adjusted the profile to allow for better heat dissipation.

          Of course, the user can feel all that heat in their hand now.

          That said, my wife got an iPhone 11 when they were new, and it's been damn hot from day one. Apple said it was normal, and only an issue if a message appears on screen warning you about overheating.

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by dgatwood ( 11270 )

            Are the two CPUs running with the same power profile though? Apple made a big deal of the titanium body, which acts as a heatsink, so may well have adjusted the profile to allow for better heat dissipation.

            Even if they aren't, that's still a software bug. Even if they're doing something bizarre like accidentally not using the high-efficiency cores and leaving the high-performance cores turned on continuously, that would still be a software bug. :-)

            But the most likely issue is that they just got the phone and imported all of their content from the previous device, and Spotlight is still indexing everything. And if there's a bug in a Spotlight importer that causes it to crash, it will keep reindexing and rein

      • I do like to live dangerously with the betas and file feedback.

        Heat problems aside, they made things noticeably faster on my iPhone 11--when everything is working. :D

  • You’re using it in the wrong place (Score:3)

    by backslashdot ( 95548 ) on Monday September 25, 2023 @08:41PM (#63876951)

    Quit trying to make calls from the wrong place. Just use it inside a freezer or in Antarctica, it’ll work just fine.

  • The nickname given to iPhone 15 is Dragonfruit, to ridicule its heating problem. Just search in YT and you can find videos showing the iPhone 15 reaching ~50C temperatures after playing games.

    Long time iPhone user here, and iPhone 15 is the first time that I find no reason to "upgrade" at all.

  • "LOL apple sheeple blah blah blah" (Score:4, Insightful)

    by RandomUsername99 ( 574692 ) on Monday September 25, 2023 @09:21PM (#63877015)
    Always love the comments on any article involving apple... Neckbeards coming out of the woodwork to get their dig at the armies of insatiable apple fanboys who insist apple can do no wrong. The only problem is that it's bullshit. You know what 99.9999% of apple users think of android users? They don't. I own an S23 Ultra and was an iPhone user for many years, but an android user right after it was introduced. Looking through various fora for the odd support question or whatever reveals this bizarre undercurrent of grievance among so many Android users; it's absolutely fucking bonkers. If you, even for a minute, think that someone is a better or worse person based on their choice of phone purveyor, grow the fuck up and stop making your bizarre insecurities and groupthink someone else's problem. Jesus Christ is cringy hell. Get a real hobby. Our a job.

    • Oh but it's fun to tweak Apple fanboys! It's not actually about the technology, but about the reactions you get. The mudslinging is the entire point! But it's all good, your rant is equally entertaining.

      • It's not actually about the technology, but about the reactions you get.

        That's good because apple don't rely on technology they rely on their logo and for most apple users that's more than enough.

        Funny as well because if a samsung even gains a degree its all 'oh its going to explode hahahalols' but then they'll stick 50degree iphones in their pocket like it's no big deal.

        • Oh "they" say that? Who? Where? Like literally two people in some subreddit somewhere? The only time I ever see people expressing this sentiment are the imaginary people in posts like yours. Snap out of it. Look at the history of Apple and Samsung advertising. Does Apple even address Samsung? Now look at Samsung's advertising? Constantly trying to draw lines between Samsung owners and people with iphones for well over a decade. Now look for actual voices from these so-called apple super fanboys, count them,

    • It's good fun. And btw I have both Android and iOS phones.

    • I don't know who these Apple fanboys are. I think you're exactly correct. This holy war is one sided. I've been an iPhone user since the 3GS. It concerns me not at all what android folks think.

      I have 5 android devices. One does exactly on job - it's running positive grid's spark app. The other four are languishing in drawers. But it bothers me not at all that some folks prefer them. Good for them.

      If somebody gets offended by a phone choice they should probably do some personal reflection and see where that

    • think that someone is a better or worse person based on their choice of phone purveyor

      You're the only one here who thinks this is about the end user's choice. What people here dismiss is end users religion. You use an iPhone? Great. Android? Great too. If you however dismiss any criticism criticism of either through blind fanboism then I will think of you as a lower lifeform.

    • Your experience is just that - your experience. You're clearly not aware of the "bullying" that is real and occurs due to message bubbles from Apple forcing SMS on its users. So while you may not care, the average Apple user does. And the average Android users notices and now cares as well due to RCS vs SMS. It's all quite complicated actually, but know that the original cultural problem comes from Apple, and the Android people that hate iPhone people is a reaction. You can judge that reaction, but underst

    • Iâ(TM)ve had experience with many more phone OS than just 2.

      I think Maemo was the best non-iOS system, Iâ(TM)ve worked as a developer on the Android side and it is utter shit when it comes to both code quality and GPL compliance. Iâ(TM)ve even gotten the EFF involved at one point in my career and they admitted the problem but didnâ(TM)t want to help at which point I decided that both Android and Linux are now effectively public domain.

      I see fanboys on both side though, whenever some infl

      • Iâ(TM)ve

        didnâ(TM)t

        thatâ(TM)s

        canâ(TM)t

        The funny thing is you can tell exactly who is posting from iphones.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by kriston ( 7886 )

          macOS, too.

          It's ludicrous that Slashdot can't account for the character set difference problem after all these many years.

    • Re: (Score:2, Troll)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      My animosity towards the iPhone/iPad is based on my experience providing tech support for my wife, who has both.

      If she had an Android phone, or if the iPhone lived up to the hype about "just working", I wouldn't have to waste so much time looking for solutions to issues she has. And the solutions are often shit - backup and wipe your device, assuming you have a computer with the right software to make a backup, or pay for iCloud. Of course it can't use any of the other cloud services I already pay for, it's

      • I wouldn't have to waste so much time looking for solutions to issues

        My biggest problem with "supporting" apple stuff is that if there is an established way to do something that everyone does, apple will do something different on purpose.

      • Meet me. I have an iPhone, which mostly works fine (except for overheating...). My wife has an Android, and I provide tech support for her. And yes--just like you--I have wasted (she wouldn't call it that) time looking for solutions to problems on her Android phone.

        As far as my iPhone needing "all the special cables and dongles", I need exactly one.

  • A bit early to say if there's a real overheating issue or not, I'd give it a week and see if it's still a big complaint with users that got it at launch.

    Part of it even after setup, could be neural engines on device analyzing your photos to help organize them... that might take a few days running as background tasks.

    • Part of it even after setup, could be neural engines on device analyzing your photos to help organize them...

      Or see if you need to be reported to the FBI, ATF, CDC, or FSB.

      • Or see if you need to be reported to the FBI, ATF, CDC, or FSB.

        This isn't Google, Apple actually dropped CSAM scanning [theverge.com] because of that very reason (that any government might mandate scanning for more than just child porn).

        Thank you for the opportunity to educate those like yourself who were misinformed.

    • Re: Seems like time will tell... (Score:4, Informative)

      by Kyogreex ( 2700775 ) on Monday September 25, 2023 @11:32PM (#63877253)
      Maybe I just won the silicon lottery, but mine has been running cool to the point where I am actually impressed so far. I would have had no idea this was going on, but Apple should do right by those who are having this issue.

      • Same here. So cool, in fact, that I made a mental note of the fact that it was cooler than any of my recent iPhones.

      • Can now report I see the same here and I only just got the phone yesterday. Runs about normal so far, really only got warm when it was doing the full restore but even then not THAT warm.

  • Considering how minor iPhone 15's upgrades are, this seems like Cook using the people who must have an iPhone as the perfect suckers for beta testing iOS 17. I'm quite happy with the utility of battery life of my 13 mini and don't see myself buying another phone for maybe another 5 years.

  • The hype machine is in full swing. OMG it's *titanium*! I need to run to the Apple store right now and get one of those! And it's "free" from the big cell companies! And AT&T says their "free" is better than Verizon or T-Mobile's "free". My head is spinning!

  • I wonder if the people with overheating phones are using phone cases that cover up the Titanium external heatsink? Maybe Apple can make commercials about phone cases with fans in them too.
  • After 30 years of Apple, the converted still don't get it. You get in line to buy the newest stuff and become the Beta testers with all the problems with the new finagled things. You can't wait but gotta have it NOW. Wait a few months for the idiots like YOU to find the problems and for The Company to fix it. Stop being led by the blind and be patient.

  • I have had an iPhone 11 Pro, and now own an iPhone 12 Pro. Both overheated during the summer. Now that the weather (and more importantly, the inside of our house) has cooled down about 10 degrees, I don't seem to be having the problem. That said, I'd be surprised if other iPhones (at least the more recent models) don't also overheat.

    One thing I have that contributes to the heating problem is a case. I feel my phone needs the protection, but maybe that's wrong--maybe just a screen protector (which I also

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