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Apple's New iOS 17 Will Warn You If Someone Tries To Send Unsolicited Nudes (businessinsider.com) 70

Posted by BeauHD from the no-more-surprises dept.
Apple's new iOS 17 includes a Sensitive Content Warning feature that notifies users when they receive unsolicited nude images. Insider reports: Apple said in a press release that the Sensitive Content Warning would help adult users avoid seeing unwanted nude images and videos. The company would not get access to the content as processing for the new feature occurred on the user's device, the press release added. The tech giant is also expanding Communication Safety, a feature aimed at protecting children, to cover sending and receiving content via AirDrop, Contact Posters, and FaceTime messages. The privacy feature will also expand to cover video content, as well as images. Further reading: Apple Announces iOS 17 With StandBy Charging Mode, Better Autocorrect
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  • Sounds a lot like (Score:2, Interesting)

    by ACForever ( 6277156 )
    the CASM stuff apple said they were not going to do. but of course apple lies

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by bug_hunter ( 32923 )

      "Announced during the WWDC event on Monday, the protections will arrive with iOS 17 later this year with all image and video processing happening right on the device itself to ensure everything is kept private, even from Apple."

      -- https://www.theverge.com/2023/... [theverge.com]

      You know, it's occasionally worth reading before rushing to make the most cynical comment (which may or may not have a connection to reality) you can think of.

      • Comment removed (Score:4, Insightful)

        by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @07:53PM (#63582025)
        Comment removed based on user account deletion

        • Re:Sounds a lot like (Score:4, Insightful)

          by gweihir ( 88907 ) on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @08:01PM (#63582047)

          With any tech company, it's not only a good thing to do, it's damn near required to be cynical.

          Cynical, wary and fully aware that the worst you expect them to do may not actually cover it. Sad times.

        • Re:Sounds a lot like (Score:5, Insightful)

          by bug_hunter ( 32923 ) on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @09:03PM (#63582181)

          > Where does it say that after flagging something it doesn't send a copy to Apple?

          In Apple's own release
          https://www.apple.com/newsroom... [apple.com]

          >> Privacy updates include the expansion of Communication Safety beyond Messages to help keep kids safe when sending and receiving content via AirDrop, Contact Posters, a FaceTime message, and when using the Photos picker to choose content to send. It also expands to cover video content in addition to still images. A new feature, Sensitive Content Warning, helps adult users avoid seeing unwanted nude images and videos. As with Communication Safety, all image and video processing for Sensitive Content Warning occurs on-device, so Apple does not get access to the content.

          Noted they didn't make the distinction of before or after it gets flagged, but them saying "Apple does not get access to the content" seems pretty blanket.

          Apple's sin isn't generally lying and going through all your data. It's charging a lot of money, cracking down on repair shops, etc.

          Yeah, be cautious, but also actually research and save being a cynic when that's what the data suggests, as opposed to the guy I was responding to who basically took a shortcut of "Today Apple anounces" "LIES!".

          • Re:Sounds a lot like (Score:4, Interesting)

            by dgatwood ( 11270 ) on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @12:32AM (#63582456) Homepage Journal

            Noted they didn't make the distinction of before or after it gets flagged, but them saying "Apple does not get access to the content" seems pretty blanket.

            Not really, no. It doesn't tell whether the fact that the content was flagged gets reported. The fact that content got flagged is, in and of itself, a privacy concern, particularly if it reports the identity of the person who sent it, and doubly so if it reports whether you opened the content.

            For an obvious and common example of how this could go wrong, assume that all of the metadata above gets reported as part of the device's logs, and periodically gets backed up to iCloud. In that scenario, someone's soon-to-be-ex-wife could potentially send a subpoena to Apple to find out if his new girlfriend sent any nudes that got opened prior to when the soon-to-be-ex-husband filed for divorce, and use that as leverage in the divorce proceedings.

            Additionally, the article says nothing about whether this is opt-in or opt-out, whether opting out (or not opting in) prevents the processing or just the display of the warning, etc. So the info we have so far also doesn't necessarily rule out the possibility that it reports in even when the warning is turned off. In the worst case, such a design could turn a wrong number sext from someone underage into a life-altering experience for some random person. Or worse, it could become a game, where underage predators send wrong number sexts to random people and watch as they get arrested. Heck, it could even become the next iteration of swatting as a way of winning multiplayer online games.

            Saying that Apple doesn't get access to the content (nudes) is a good start, but that's only a fraction of the privacy guarantees that are actually needed when dealing with something this sensitive. I'm seeing a lot of potential privacy red flags design-wise that need to be clearly addressed before I'll trust any operating system that does something like this. Without more details, this idea could be anywhere from harmless to jaw-droppingly Orwellian. We really need a lot more details.

            • > For an obvious and common example of how this could go wrong, assume that all of the metadata above gets reported as part of the device's logs, and periodically gets backed up to iCloud. In that scenario, someone's soon-to-be-ex-wife could potentially send a subpoena to Apple...

              Do recall Apple vs the FBI case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org].
              This sounds like the kind of end to end data that would remain encrypted but I can't guarentee that. No doubt there will be more details as it works its way into

              • I think I just come back to this site to get angry.

                This strikes a chord.

              • sir, Your salient and well thought out arguments are wasted on these people, they just want to fling their shit at anything and everything. Not once (that I can recall) have I ever seen a slashdot poster admit to their error and change (other than myself). Not saying that I am better than the hoi polloi, merely that well thought out logical arguments sway me.

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

            The amount of access Apple has to your device depends where you live. In China they have access to everything, and so does the government.

            At the other end of the spectrum, in Europe privacy laws don't allow some data collection and processing that is legal in the US.

        • I would go further... now they announce the ability to filter nudes, then in 3, 2, 1... law enforcement will require them to flag and report any possible CP.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by Merk42 ( 1906718 )
          Slashdot's T&C doesn't explicitly say they won't rape you and your family members, ergo they will and it'll happen any day now!!1
      • Proof? I've learned never to trust Apple at face value. Privacy? There's billion dollars worth of evidence they're as bad as Google or any other ad company

        • Re: Sounds a lot like (Score:4, Insightful)

          by bug_hunter ( 32923 ) on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @09:34PM (#63582204)

          Well there's the time Apple stood up to the FBI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org].

          The secure enclave has been hacked away at a bit, but no one has ever found any data being sent to the enclave that could be reverse engineered into a finger-print or face data.

          > There's billion dollars worth of evidence they're as bad as Google or any other ad company
          Look at their revenue breakdown, granted they do make a whopping $4 billion on advertising - compare that to Google (which gets 80% of its overall income from adverts) at $223 billion from ad revenue.

          Also remember Apple's new change to privacy measures that got advertisers (and Facebook especially) upset. Now that's just Apple protecting you from 3rd parties and not from Apple, but it at least stops a lot of data leaking to 3rd parties
          https://www.theverge.com/2021/... [theverge.com]

          I don't think Apple is some amazing white knight fighting for privacy, they worked out it was a way to distinguish themselves from Google and went with it.
          I know it's a bit of a pick your poison these days, but if privacy is your number one concern - saying they're as bad as Google seems to be missing a lot.

          • Odd that you'd shift to Government invasion of privacy instead of Apple invading your privacy. However, both are demonstrably bad if you look at their actions and bottom line. Regarding Government/Privacy: Apple, like Google, wants your privacy for itself. Google stood up to the same three letter orgs, but never got the recognition because it's not Apple. ( https://venturebeat.com/securi... [venturebeat.com] ) Hell, Google stood up against Chinese censorship, and indirectly, information sharing with it's government, w
    • I get solicited nudes all the time... how will i get my pictures now?

    • It doesnâ(TM)t, really. That thing was doing a hash against a known database, this is presumably using the same sort of generic nudity detection that companies like Instagram use to blur out potential dick pics that dudes harass (mostly) women with.

  • I love unsolicited nudes, as long as they're the right kind! It would be nice to know who it is before I open it.

    Reminds me of about 13-14 years ago, when I had a device that connected via Bluetooth to a cell phone and converted the signal to a phone line, so that all the phones in the house rang or could dial out via the cell phone. Pretty cool device actually. I never checked it for messages, because it was supposed to be our virtual land line. One day I went to check it out and saw a nude pict of
  • You know, text spam with bible passages or social-conservative election scare-messages and the like?

  • What about solicited nudes? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by gweihir ( 88907 ) on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @07:59PM (#63582037)

    Will they still get through?

    And what about inane dangerous crap like religion? Or other scams?

    • No more unsolicited family snaps of the Venus de Milo for iOS users? That's the problem with censorship - once you start it's difficult to say when to stop.

      • No more unsolicited family snaps of the Venus de Milo for iOS users? That's the problem with censorship - once you start it's difficult to say when to stop.

        I am skeptical that many art lovers are getting all upset because they get a titty pic without asking, so I doubt they will turn this feature on. Also, not sure how much of a loss it is if you don't see a famous sculpture in your text. You already know what it looks like. Chances are if you're dumb enough to get offended by a skin pic, you don't have a very open mind and are probably not into art by dead foreigners. Do you really think they will be crying out at all the classical art images that won't g

        • Most people don't. However, it's the same technology as the the anti-child porn software... that people seem to be okay with, despite it no longer about being child porn... now it's just regular porn. Anyone that cares about their own privacy should rightfully be concerned about it - if they had the balls to go through all your shit looking for childporn, what else are they looking for and flagging... but not telling you?
        • Wait, they aren't fun to be around because they don't want to see some random dick on their phone? All joking aside, this makes me wary of how you define fun.

          • Wait, they aren't fun to be around because they don't want to see some random dick on their phone? All joking aside, this makes me wary of how you define fun.

            Send me all your dick pics. I'll ignore them. They do nothing for me. I am not shocked unless your cock is shocking for some reason. It's a mild nuisance. When I get an unsolicited message, I am annoyed and I delete it and I move on with my day. If it's unwantedly sexual, I just delete it a millisecond faster...if not laugh at it. Send me pictures of naked women?....well...I "guess" it's still a nuisance...not sure they're "unwanted." :)

            If you spend more than 5 min thinking about it, you've got SEV

      • Where's the censorship? This is an opt-in that lets you continue to view the picture if you'd like.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Windrip ( 303053 )

      And what telemtry is sent and to whom?

    • Will they still get through?

      And what about inane dangerous crap like religion? Or other scams?

      Rather ironic you're talking about "other" scams while discussing the scam sold as internet filtering.

      Yes, dick pics will likely get through after some prick puts googly eyes on his johnson, while that weird picture of your elbow you posted online 10 years ago will trigger a visit from the FBI who are conveniently already in the neighborhood giving out free "illegal" gun threats...

  • I can't say this has been a particular concern of mine. I certainly would not have included this on the "top 100 things I'm waiting for Apple to fix" list.

  • Quality Filter (Score:4, Interesting)

    by bill_mcgonigle ( 4333 ) * on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @08:39PM (#63582139) Homepage Journal

    Can I get a quality filter?

    Stop telling people everybody is physically beautiful!

  • I don't want to be too general about the Slashdot demographic, but I doubt many of you are women or children who get harassed with dick picks (the target for this feature).

    > Re privacy
    https://www.apple.com/newsroom... [apple.com]
    Sensitive Content Warning, helps adult users avoid seeing unwanted nude images and videos. As with Communication Safety, all image and video processing for Sensitive Content Warning occurs on-device, so Apple does not get access to the content.

    > Re "why don't they ban (insert thing I don'

    • I don't want to be too general about the Slashdot demographic, but I doubt many of you are women or children who get harassed with dick picks (the target for this feature).

      Au contraire. I believe many people here are just socially inept enough to be the target audience. It's important to let idiots know their dick picks won't get through.

  • Sign Up (Score:3)

    by registrations_suck ( 1075251 ) on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @09:30PM (#63582202)

    Why is this even a problem? I mean....I've never gotten one.

    They need a feature that allows people to sign up to receive unsolicited nudes. You enter parameters of what you're interested in, and people who have signed up to send meet those parameters, they get notified. Then anonymous senders can send to anonymous receivers.

    Bonus points if Apple includes filters to ensure pictures sent to you meet the parameters you defined, and auto rejects any that don't meet the parameters.

    People will pay for that shit.

  • No more pictures of unknown nude ladies waiting in my message app. =/
    I guess I have to install Grinder now.

  • I'm likely to want to see nudity... but that doesn't mean that I should or would allow myself to.

    TikRot, BoobToob, and BookFace are all great at showing me girls jiggling in their underwear.

    I have to work to keep them from showing up.

    I've decided not to be embarrassed about this, but there are reasons why embarrassment is a healthy social construct. These things are empty drugs, and should be avoided. I know that we like these things. I know that without the proper family connection and children creation

  • The news was much more interesting that way

  • I look forward to only get solicited nudes in the future.

  • Thanks for the help Apple!
  • It would make Nextdoor almost useable.

  • 1) feels like this is going to be one of those "challenge accepted" 4chan triumphs

    2) how does the phone know they're unsolicited?

    • Yep, the ‘what can we get past the filter’ urge is strong. And also the ‘what innocent thing can we make the filter hit on’ game to make the programmers look inept is also fun!

  • I can't help but think of the See Food app from Silicon Valley when I read this.

  • You know where this is going? Soon you will only get content that Apple allows you to consume.

    The tech is already there for automated Censorship and Control. And the sheep don't even care or don't see it coming.

  • ... avoid seeing unwanted nude images and videos.

    First, it was 'detecting' child-porn and sending it to the FBI (a guilty-until-proven-innocent scheme), then it was 'detecting' child-porn and refusing to send it (a good idea for a child's phone). Now, it's refusing to receive all images of nudity: That's great for opt-in, or even opt-out.

    Problem is, once the mechanism is on place, government (or some influential 'child safety' nut-job) will demand it be applied to every image sent: First your MMS/FaceTime, then email/SnapChat/Twitter/Instagram, then Z

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