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Opera Mini For iPhone Submitted To App Store Today

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  • Meh (Score:3, Interesting)

    by WrongSizeGlass (838941) on Tuesday March 23, 2010 @05:16PM (#31589404)
    I'd give it a try if Apple 'blessed' it (which I doubt they will considering how 'fair' they are) but I don't know if it will ever match the speed of Safari considering they don't have access to the private API's that Apple does (and forbids everyone else from using).
  • Force Their Hand (Score:5, Interesting)

    by eldavojohn (898314) * <eldavojohn.gmail@com> on Tuesday March 23, 2010 @05:20PM (#31589454) Journal

    from the thats-not-gonna-work dept.

    Publicize it like they (and you) are doing and actually it just might work. Dare Apple look any more evil than their dictatorship at the app store has made them out to be?

  • Re:DOA (Score:1, Interesting)

    by ukyoCE (106879) on Tuesday March 23, 2010 @05:34PM (#31589590) Journal

    Apple has made that rule clear, and it's their platform (and they don't have a monopoly) so it's not really evil.

    The obvious question though is did anyone at Opera ask Apple before putting all the effort into creating the browser on the iPhone?

    If Opera asked and Apple said "make it and find out the hard way", that would be evil.

    If Opera asked and Apple said "We'll reject it. We don't want to support multiple browsers on our proprietary platform", then so be it. It's Opera's own fault if it gets rejected.

    If they asked and Apple refused to answer, I'd file that under the first category of "make it and find out the hard way" evilness.

  • Re:DOA (Score:3, Interesting)

    by EvanED (569694) <evaned@ g m a i l.com> on Tuesday March 23, 2010 @05:54PM (#31589850)

    The app store not carrying things isn't evil. That's fine.

    Apple making it so that the only way you can load programs onto your iPhone is, however, somewhat evil. (At least in combination with the above fact.)

    Wal-Mart doesn't make you sign a contract saying you'll never shop at Target before they let you into the store.

  • by obarthelemy (160321) on Tuesday March 23, 2010 @06:21PM (#31590228)

    My guess is Opera have no hope of getting it approved, buyt are starting to build a case to force the iGarden open the same way they forced the Wintel one. Will take a while, though.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 23, 2010 @07:03PM (#31590860)

    The second Opera puts out anything saying that, Apple would counter with "we didn't deny it, it's still under review" at which point the whole circus ride starts over again. That's why I said Apple will drag this out as long as possible; they never have to approve it and they never have to deny it.

    Of course I would never take credit for something as brilliantly evil as the App Store, that's something only Apple could dream up and Microsoft could copy.

  • Re:Meh (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 23, 2010 @11:07PM (#31593330)

    The video is misleading. The Opera side begins browsing and clicking on links before the page is done loading, thus the entire page is not loaded, but they count the page twoards the total.

    Actually, if you look at the spinning circle in the red title bar area, you will see it is an indicator of progress. Once it stops spinning, the page has finished loading. You see an example where the circle is still spinning after he touches the screen to zoom in (1:23 - 1:24). The blue progress bar also doesn't seem to be affected by touching of the screen in in this example. I don't think touching the screen stops the page from loading honestly. I have Opera Mini and Opera Mobile on my Nokia, and you can pan around the page, and zoom in while the page is loading, especially if you're on a slow connection and images are still finishing downloading. I think they're just a little too close to the servers that dish up the compressed pages.
     

  • Re:DOA (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 24, 2010 @03:14AM (#31594720)

    Apple is leveraging its position to extort money and control from users and developers at the expense of the best interests of people who have bought iphones and itouches.
    If you already bought an iphone or itouch, you already handed over control - you decided at that time that your "best interest" was to dispense with some control. I don't care a fig about Apple, but they're not EXTORTING anything. You don't want to be in a closed garden, then don't buy a fucking iphone. You don't want to pay for apps, then don't pay for them, you stupid consumer. You're not forced to buy anything, you stupid fucking twat, so there's no coercion or force being exerted by anyone.
     
    It's streets from what Microsoft did, since MS actually DID coerce and extort other companies to make sure IE was the only browser shipped with company X PCs, or more recently, they "coerced" other manufacturers to make sure Windows was the only O/S shipped on the "netbooks". So far, Apple is far in the dim distance when you look at the "evil" race that MS has been fucking CONVICTed for leading.

    By the way, in a "boolean" world, either something is, or isn't, at least that's what boolean meant when I went to school. Maybe universities these days teach that boolean now encompasses: "totally, utterly, completely false", "really false", "sort of false", "a little false", "a little true", "kind of true", "true-ish", "pepsi true", and now "totally, utterly completely Apple true".
     
    You talk like a fag and your' shit's all fucked up....

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