Apple, Google Wallets To Carry California Driver's Licenses (axios.com) 50
Californians' driver's licenses are going digital as people will soon be able to carry them in their Apple or Google wallets. From a report: The governor's office says it's a secure and convenient tool that will allow users to more easily undergo ID verification, such as airport screenings. The virtual wallet capabilities, which are set to roll out "in the coming weeks," will allow users to add and access California driver's licenses and ID cards on their iPhones, Apple Watch and Android devices -- similar to credit cards.
They will be authorized for use in TSA screenings, select apps and select businesses, such as Circle K. Participating airports in the state include SFO, SJC and LAX. The new format, which Gov. Gavin Newsom is expected to announce Thursday, is part of the DMV's broader mobile driver's license (mDL) pilot, which launched last year. "This is a big step in our efforts to better serve all Californians, meeting people where they're at and with technology people use every day," Newsom said in a statement shared first with Axios.
They will be authorized for use in TSA screenings, select apps and select businesses, such as Circle K. Participating airports in the state include SFO, SJC and LAX. The new format, which Gov. Gavin Newsom is expected to announce Thursday, is part of the DMV's broader mobile driver's license (mDL) pilot, which launched last year. "This is a big step in our efforts to better serve all Californians, meeting people where they're at and with technology people use every day," Newsom said in a statement shared first with Axios.
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There's more than one reason I carry two phones. That's not the main one, but it's a nice side benefit.
Use "Guided Access" to "lock" to the app (Score:2)
Apple / Google will need to come up with a way to "app lock" the identification functions.
Apple already does this - it's called "Guided Access" - triple click the home button (or some other trigger you can define), and the device is "locked" to that app, and cannot navigate away to anything else.
But that doesn't block access to the physical port, AFAIK (though their "Lockdown Mode" might offer that).
There's also stuff coming in iOS 18 for locking apps.
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Apple / Google will need to come up with a way to "app lock" the identification functions
Also (to add to what I posted earlier) - you can bring up the 'Wallet' on Apple from the lock screen, meaning you should be able to show your insurance card without having the device unlocked; in my case, the worse an officer could get at is all my other reward cards & insurance drug card that I also have on there (and if you have any credit cards on there, they can't do any purchase without your fingerprint).
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Re: The problem starts when they plug a magic box (Score:2)
That's why you use a case that locks access to said USB port. With a TSA-approved lock, of course .
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You could also carry (with your things or in the car) a dedicated tablet that you exclusively use for the government-mandated things, no personal data. I personally do that as I use alternative mobile OS (not android based) on my phone, so I don't have any commercial apps. I have a separate Android tablet for all the "mandatory" apps.
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You could also carry (with your things or in the car) a dedicated tablet that you exclusively use for the government-mandated things, no personal data. I personally do that as I use alternative mobile OS (not android based) on my phone, so I don't have any commercial apps. I have a separate Android tablet for all the "mandatory" apps.
Or one could carry the original physical driver's license in one's wallet. I carry physical credit cards along with cash for those places where Google Wallet isn't an option.
Re:I'm not sure how I feel about this. (Score:4, Insightful)
I already have my insurance card in there (Geico's app). I had to show it to an officer (never mind what was going on . . . ), he more or less smoothly took my unlocked phone out of my hand as he politely asked if he could take it with him for a moment.
What I'll do is use my phone where it's convenient to me like showing ID to rent a car or board a plane, and I'll use traditional card/paper when giving it to a police officer.
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I already have my insurance card in there (Geico's app). I had to show it to an officer (never mind what was going on . . . ), he more or less smoothly took my unlocked phone out of my hand as he politely asked if he could take it with him for a moment.
What I'll do is use my phone where it's convenient to me like showing ID to rent a car or board a plane, and I'll use traditional card/paper when giving it to a police officer.
Aren't some of the people standing between you and the airplane "officers"?
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I'm very sure how I feel about this, and how I feel about it is HELL NO.
I do not see what advantage a digital ID gives me over a physical card, and I see plenty of disadvantages.
Re: I'm not sure how I feel about this. (Score:2)
Don't ever hand your smart phone to the police (Score:3, Insightful)
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We have to at the US border
Not according to a recent court ruling, we don't.
https://knightcolumbia.org/con... [knightcolumbia.org]
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The law doesn't matter at the border. You *might* be able to file a lawsuit later, if you have money, but the only thing that matters is they have a gun and you do not and they KNOW that.
Interesting (Score:2, Insightful)
Airports are under federal jurisdiction. When was the California Digital ID approved by Congress as valid for TSA screenings and identification to board a plane?
Further, California residents can rely on the same iD being approved at the other airport, correct? If not, how do they get home? Were other states consulted or was Gavin Newsom appointed Viceroy of the Federal Protectorate recently?
So we have a digital ID established by a single state that is (must be?) valid at airports nationwide. I read the new
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For the record, the TSA does not have the authority to approve this on its own. See, we have this Constitution that says Congress makes the laws.
It would be nice if all laws were discussed by representative bodies before being enacted, to consider the various implications like some of your points above. At present it looks like we have a mixed goverment, with some things being decided by Congressional legislation and some things by executive branch agencies deciding how they will interpret or apply or act within the scope of the detailed or vague laws that they believe apply to them. Some say this lets experts make the best decisions without havin
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30s of google could have saved you a lot of typing. Obviously this would have taken an act of congress, and it did. the 2020 REAL Id Modernization act.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/... [congress.gov]
(The irony being at the speed of govt by the time REAL ids are actually required everyone will use mobile).
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Yes, this was kept extremely quiet by.......passing it with overwhelming support and having the president sign a bill and publish it in the federal register. How dastardly of them!
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https://www.zdnet.com/article/... [zdnet.com]
TSA already has a protocol for this. Not sure why you expect Congress to micromanage every little thing. They can barely do anything at the best of times.
https://www.tsa.gov/digital-id [tsa.gov]
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Pretty sure individual states and many other entities accept each other's physical drivers licenses.
They are required to under the full faith and credit clause of the Constitution. My question is were other states involved in the process of substituting federal documents instead.
Not sure why you expect Congress to micromanage every little thing.
Because that's their job.
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My question is were other states involved in the process of substituting federal documents instead.
https://www.dhs.gov/real-id/ab... [dhs.gov]
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> When was the California Digital ID approved by
> Congress as valid for TSA screenings and
> identification to board a plane?
When the California digital driver's license thing was in its pilot program phase with the utterly craptastic app, it did mention that it was acceptable at "certain airports". I don't recall if there was a list of those airports because the app was a hot mess under the best of circumstances and, more often, totally unusable.
> Were other states consulted
There was and is no
How do I present my ID? (Score:2)
I didn't see it mentioned; Do I have to fully unlock my phone to present my ID?
If so, no thank you.
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I assume you can double-click to bring it up in Wallet, like I do for my IKEA card. No full unlocking necessary.
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Hmm, my iPhone 12 mini's iOS v17.6.1's enabled double-click side button doesn't show me wallet.
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Is there really no way to have my iPhone 12 mini's iOS v17.5.1's Wallet app, during its lock screen, to show up :(
after double clicking the right physical button without a credit/debit card set up for Apple Pay?
https://www.iphonelife.com/con... [iphonelife.com] says so.
Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
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Bend over, spread 'em (Score:2)
Still Have To Carry Card (Score:2)
The problem is that until it can be used everywhere I'll still have to carry the physical card, just as I have to carry my credit card (thank you, Home Depot!).
demolition of DMV offices (Score:2)
Bumpers are for bumping, I guess. (Score:2)
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I really hope (Score:2)
A fine excuse for a folding phone (Score:2)
Would Like This (Score:2)
Normally I would prefer to use the physical card, but it would be nice to also have it on the phone. There are so many times when I've gone to the car to run a quick errand and realized that I need to grab my wallet because I'm supposed to carry my license with me. I would much prefer to not have that issue.
Of course, if I do get pulled over, it's likely that the officer already ran my plates and knows who I am and that my license is valid, so it's all redundant. Though I was told by an officer that 95%
so what states? (Score:1)
I'll stick with my laminated cards, thanks. (Score:2)
While this sounds super convenient I would rather not. What if my phone dies and then I get pulled over for a traffic violation? I also don't want to unlock my phone for a police officer for any reason. EVER.
That's two good reasons to keep my physical ID, insurance and registration cards.
Eventually, they will probably make this mandatory but that's hopefully a long way off.
No thanks (Score:2)
My driver's license is in my own wallet...safe (Score:2)
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