Samsung Mocks Apple's Controversial 'Crush' Ad With 'UnCrush' Pitch 67
Samsung has released a response to Apple's recently criticized "Crush" ad, which featured the destruction of instruments, arcade games, and sculptures to promote the new iPad Pro. Apple subsequently apologized, with an executive admitting they "missed the mark."
In a video titled "UnCrush," created by BBH USA and directed by Zen Pace, Samsung depicts a woman navigating debris reminiscent of Apple's ad, using a Galaxy Tab S9 and Galaxy AI to play guitar, in contrast to Apple's destructive message. "We would never crush creativity," the caption of Samsung's video reads.
In a video titled "UnCrush," created by BBH USA and directed by Zen Pace, Samsung depicts a woman navigating debris reminiscent of Apple's ad, using a Galaxy Tab S9 and Galaxy AI to play guitar, in contrast to Apple's destructive message. "We would never crush creativity," the caption of Samsung's video reads.
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Apple abandoned musicians/producers when they removed line-input meaning the only way to get any original audio into your mac is via a 3rd party soundcard, out of the box there is no way to get anything audio into your mac, no inputs, no outputs.
weak sauce
I mean, I used the line input on PowerBook hardware back in the day for that, because I was cheap^H^H^H^H^Ha grad student, and because usable external input hardware was nonexistent. But by the time Apple dropped the line input, I had long ago moved on to external audio input hardware, because the internal input wasn't ever really all that great.
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And how do I connect an XLR microphone to that anyway? Anyone doing anything pro would not be using a 3.5mm jack.
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XLR is a balanced cable (noise reduction similar to the twists in Cat5 but by using reversed polarity instead), 3.5mm on the computer is unbalanced . You need more than just a cable that has two different ends. And it doesn't provide 48V phantom power to the microphone.
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This was a thread about how important a 3.5mm jack was to music professionals. I'm just ridiculing it because no one in the industry uses that port for anything important.
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XLR is a balanced connection. Cables with TRS on one end and XLR on the other exists but is a mono cable and the Mac doesn't support using the port that way. You need an audio interface of some sort for active conversion - they can be very small and portable. While you could connect the output of something like that to the input port on the Mac, you're already using USB for power and you can support higher bit depth and sample rate as a USB DAC anyway.
You might be connecting a line level out from a mixer
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XLR is a balanced connection. Cables with TRS on one end and XLR on the other exists but is a mono cable and the Mac doesn't support using the port that way. You need an audio interface of some sort for active conversion - they can be very small and portable.
Bahahahahahaha. You mean like LINE-INPUT which Macbooks used to have. These days you have to use USB adapters that do that but back then you did not.
While you could connect the output of something like that to the input port on the Mac, you're already using USB for power and you can support higher bit depth and sample rate as a USB DAC anyway.
Again Macs used to have audio line-in without the need of anything additional. To do the same thing, you'll need a separate adapter. It's just more of an inconvenience to carry additional adapters. These days studio equipment is also far more digital than in the past.
You might be connecting a line level out from a mixer to the Mac, but there are a lot of potential noise issues to deal with and again - you're stuck with a low sample rate so you don't have a lot of overhead to mix with. You wouldn't want to layer multiple tracks in that sample rate. So while it's possible, it's just not something I would label as "musician/producer" level as the OP was referring to.
Nowhere did the OP define his exact requirements. You are inserting requirements that he did n
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Bahahahahahaha. You mean like LINE-INPUT which Macbooks used to have
No. Apple uses 3.5mm as unbalanced stereo, not balanced mono. Three wires for one channel with differential signaling to filter noise .
At least read up on it before saying anything else: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik... [wikipedia.org]
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No. Apple uses 3.5mm as unbalanced stereo, not balanced mono. Three wires for one channel with differential signaling to filter noise .
1) Again you are the one who says that the OP needed BALANCED stereo. He never said anything about that. He need line-in to get analog audio. No True Scotsman argument. 2) Not all audio used from that input needs to be 100% perfect when it was sampled. The audio can be cleaned up in post and that audio may not be needed for a finished product.
At least read up on it before saying anything else: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik [wikipedia.org]... [wikipedia.org]
This was entire post: "Apple abandoned musicians/producers when they removed line-input meaning the only way to get any original audio into your mac is via a 3rd party
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I see now you're trying to erase everything you said about how the cable would work that definitely doesn't work. Which was 90% of this very long thread.
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OP: "Musicians need line-in audio."
You: "No true musician would use line-in. They would use XLR which is not possible."
Me: "XLR to 3.5mm is possible but that is not what was asked."
You; "Let me mansplain XLR to you."
Me: "Read what was asked. Stop making up your own requirements."
You still have no clue, do you? Please point out where the OP said he needed balanced XLR again. I'll wait.
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Next thing you’ll tell me that banging on my computer is not the same as snare drum.
You probly won't get the desired result, but it would be a lot of fun.
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out of the box there is no way to get anything audio into your mac, no inputs, no outputs.
Weird, I am looking at my MacBook Pro with a USB-C cable connected right into a Black Magic and works perfectly. And its even better since it is a no fuss 32-bit digital connection rather than analog.
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You have to do the same for a PC laptop as well, I've never seen one with a usable DAC onboard, let alone XLR or 1/4" jacks.
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With non-Apple hardware, you can go arm, x86, choose much larger amounts of ram, a real dedicated GPU and on and on and on... while having to use the same third party hardware that Apple also doesn't include. Did you miss that point?
Yes. You've missed the point. You're talking like you are a doctor of neuroscience and you don't even know what a brain is.
Having a USB-C connection to mixer or broadcast device is technically superior in every imaginable way than using a analog 1/4" jack backed by the cheap DAC that Apple and PC makers use. It is 100% lossless, impervious to interference, and a superior bitrate.
Stop typing and go learn something troll.
Nuance (Score:4, Funny)
I guess that enough of these drooling imbeciles are the same people that Apple hopes will shell out $$$$ for one of their new iPads though. I'm sure they'll happily buy one now and tell each other that the purple crayon still tastes the best even though it's the same screen they're licking each time. If any of these people voted Republican they're the exact sort who would have clapped when Jeb Bush asked them to, pretty please. We're really scratching the bottom of the gene Dixie cup with these folks.
Buy me a drink and I'll tell you how I really feel.
Just unnecessary (Score:2)
I think everyone got the idea behind the ad, but destroying stuff (or the illusion of 'stuff', even if any/all of it were just props) just seemed kind of excessive/unnecessary, even for just an ad.
I wasn't outraged or offended when I saw it during the keynote, more like "Um, really?". Kind of along the lines of someone telling me: "I'm going to recycle this perfectly good children's softcover book ....by shredding it and putting it the recycle bin for collection", and my reaction being "ok, sure, you're 're
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I suspect that the people who initially complained just did so to attract attention (and I congratulate them for letting me know they're idiots whose opinions can
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I think everyone knows the *intent*.
But the reality is that the imagery emphasized things exploding apart, and that just seemed misaligned with their message.
Also, Samsung's response is hitting a pretty good note 'we are not here to replace your traditional, "warm" musical instruments with a cold touchscreen that just plays samples back, we are here to enhance your ability to use them'. So in addition to reversing the 'destructive' feel of the Apple ad, it also speaks to a counter argument to the original i
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I think everyone knows the *intent*.
But the reality is that the imagery emphasized things exploding apart, and that just seemed misaligned with their message.
Also, Samsung's response is hitting a pretty good note 'we are not here to replace your traditional, "warm" musical instruments with a cold touchscreen that just plays samples back, we are here to enhance your ability to use them'. So in addition to reversing the 'destructive' feel of the Apple ad, it also speaks to a counter argument to the original intent as well.
So while people were turned off (not necessarily offended, but just expressing that it didn't feel right somehow) by the destructive imagery, even the core message of "you are too good for this stuff now that you can have an iPad" is a bit off as well.
As a life-long musician (if you consider first grade to be close enough to life-long) I just found it silly. Now, some musicians, especially guitarists, will absolutely lose their minds if they see an instrument being destroyed just on principal. Unless of course you're talking about Gibson destroying the Firebird X (nicknamed the Fireturd by guitarists at the time). That was a good time had by all.
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1) Did you also get upset during Fast and Furious movies when [cool car] gets destroyed? 2) Why do you assume that everything in the ad was functional? I would surmise the main characteristic of anything that was destroyed was that it looked good on camera, not that it worked.
My dad's a car dude. And you can't watch older movies with big car chases in them with him. Every crash he's over there moaning, crying, carrying on about the lost classics. If he cared about modern vehicles, I'd hate to see what would happen to him during a Fast & Furious movie. Oh man.
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I assumed that everything in the Apple ad was CGI and that nothing was actually destroyed.
But, the sight of all that stuff being crushed did seem a bit cringey and wanton, and I think it did send the wrong message.
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Did you also get upset
WTF said I got upset?
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Re:Just unnecessary (Score:4, Informative)
You didn't answer the question: Do you get upset...
That's not what you asked. You asked [slashdot.org]: "Did you also get upset..." - I never stated I got "upset" in the first place.
Who are you, Susan Necheles? [youtube.com]
Re: Nuance (Score:1)
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Apple's ad wasn't only silly, it clearly made no sense. They crushed everything flat, but didn't crush the length and width down to the dimensions of an iPad. Are we really expected to believe it all magically came together? I think not. :-)
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There's that little known channel on YouTube that has a bit of experience with crushing things with a hydraulic press, and Lauri wasn't exactly thrilled by the ad [youtube.com] either... :D
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There's that little known channel on YouTube that has a bit of experience with crushing things with a hydraulic press, and Lauri wasn't exactly thrilled by the ad [youtube.com] either... :D
Nice, thanks. That guy is taking this way more seriously than I, and probably most people, did. Then again, I don't have a multi-ton press to play with... :-)
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In other IT-relevant news - their newest video is using the 300 ton press to make espresso [youtube.com]...
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I think anyone offended by Apple's ad was either looking/pretending to be upset or just otherwise incapable of nuanced thinking. If you looked at that and though Apple was "crushing" creativity or anything like that then (I think) you're an idiot who couldn't figure out or be bothered to imagine what Apple was trying to say with their (in my opinion) silly advertisement. Apple's only mistake was apologizing to these mouth-breathing nincompoops instead of ignoring them. Someone had made an excellent post in the original story covering this pointing out how the four people quoted in the article were all oxygen thieves complaining about it for disingenuous reasons at best. I guess that enough of these drooling imbeciles are the same people that Apple hopes will shell out $$$$ for one of their new iPads though. I'm sure they'll happily buy one now and tell each other that the purple crayon still tastes the best even though it's the same screen they're licking each time. If any of these people voted Republican they're the exact sort who would have clapped when Jeb Bush asked them to, pretty please. We're really scratching the bottom of the gene Dixie cup with these folks. Buy me a drink and I'll tell you how I really feel.
It could also be aftershock effect from the whole, "It's not a computer" campaign from awhile back. Apple does stupid really, REALLY well when it comes to marketing, and people are kinda sick of the tech giants basically flipping off the end-users at every turn. Apple included.
Not that the ad did anything for me either way. I just saw it, thought, "That's a really weird track, but OK," and moved on.
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It could also be aftershock effect from the whole, "It's not a computer" campaign from awhile back. Apple does stupid really, REALLY well when it comes to marketing, and people are kinda sick of the tech giants basically flipping off the end-users at every turn. Apple included.
That's a general problem with advertising I think - too many ads are simply insults to people's intelligence. (But I'll admit there's some clever good ones out there - they're just few and far between).
Not that the ad did anything for me either way. I just saw it, thought, "That's a really weird track, but OK," and moved on.
Similar reaction as myself. [slashdot.org]
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And here we go again, still talking about the iPad ad. In other words, Tim Cook, Apple marketing and the ad agency are celebrating yet again - because that ad has generated more marketing money in the form of press coverage for the new iPad.
This is billions of dollars worth of exposure.
And I'm sure anyone upset about the destruction is probably upset over nothing - because chances are it was 100% CGI. Oh, that stuff was probably real in the establishing shot with green screen, but then switched over to CGI
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It’s not about understanding the ad, it’s just a very disturbing ad. Generally, when you’re making an ad, you want your audience to feel good about your product, not vaguely disturbed and depressed by it.
They can both go to hell (Score:1)
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Samsung is not far from being as bad as Apple is
I'm confused. Are we not all sharing Hell already?
Marketing (Score:2)
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It's not the first time either. Samsung clearly has a "little brother" complex and loves to pile on, completely forgetting all of their own cringey missteps including proven cheating at benchmarks, and phones that catch fire on airplanes.
I think it struck a nerve. (Score:5, Insightful)
Most of the negative stuff I saw from news outlets was from Hollywood (actors, artists, screenwriters, graphics people, etc).
You know, a lot of the people generative AI are trying to put out of work? The people who are getting contracts being told essentially we can use your likeness/voice/whatever for infinity and use computers to use your long after your dead but you get no residuals? Yea.
Personally I shrugged my shoulders, but I can see why some people would be really angry about it as it's pretty fucking tone deaf in how it crushes a bunch various art form's tools (the idea being that you only need the ipad, but that's not what a lot of people saw, they saw the death of something they love - maybe even themselves).
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(the idea being that you only need the ipad, but that's not what a lot of people saw, they saw the death of something they love - maybe even themselves).
How Apple saw their ad: "You can do all the same creative things that you can do with all the stuff in this room (ie. what was in the crusher) with just the small simple tablet! PAY US NOW!"
How Apple "missed the mark" of how it'd be seen by actual people: "You can be just as creative with this cold piece of glass as you could be with your guitar we just crushed in front of you. PAY US NOW!"
Or, put another way from my point of view: I very much doubt anyone could blow me away with their creativity with a tab
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And yet, two different things. Generative AI is about replacing those people. The iPad isn't - unless you use the Chat
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Most of the negatives I saw was from musicians. But I shrugged too for I am not a musician.
Well "played"? (Score:2)
wakka wakka
This is the dumbest ad I ever saw (Score:2)
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So they are going to crush your creativity (Score:4, Insightful)
"We would never crush creativity,"
Every time Samsung makes one of these ads poking fun at Apple for doing something, they end up doing the same thing within a year. So I guess expect Samsung to crush creativity in the near future.
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They crushed creativity long ago with every single product they make being a "Galaxy" something or other, whether it makes any sense or not.
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This is correct. Samsung made fun of Apple for removing the headphone jack from iPhone, right before Samsung removed the headphone jack from Samsung Galaxy phones.
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Every time Samsung makes one of these ads poking fun at Apple for doing something, they end up doing the same thing within a year. So I guess expect Samsung to crush creativity in the near future.
Are you trying to turn a metaphor literal? You know Apple isn't crushing creativity right? This is called marketing. Actually it's called clever marketing - taking advantage of someone else's controversy to push your product.
But here's the thing Apple released and iPad. Samsung released a tablet. They are incremental hardware upgrades. There's nothing Apple has done that is new or magic that is either crushing creativity or putting artists out of work.
So what's your point? That Samsung is going to copy noth
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Still the best ad... (Score:2)