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The Galaxy Book3 Ultra Is Samsung's Shot At the MacBook Pro (theverge.com) 112

At the Samsung Galaxy Unpacked 2023 event today, Samsung announced the Galaxy Book3 Ultra, a 16-inch workstation laptop with a 120Hz OLED screen, an H-Series Core i7 or Core i9, and an RTX 4050 or 4070 GPU. "Samsung makes a number of Galaxy Book models, but this is the first one of the past few years that has really targeted the deep-pocketed professional user -- that is, the core audience for Apple's high-powered and wildly expensive MacBook Pro 16," reports The Verge. "It'll start at $2,399.99 ($100 cheaper than the base MacBook Pro 16), with a release date still to be announced." From the report: Like its siblings in the Galaxy Book3 line, a big draw of this workstation will be its screen. It's got a 2880 x 1800 120Hz 16:10 OLED display (a welcome change from the 16:9 panels that adorned last year's Galaxy Book2) rated for 400 nits of brightness [...]. Elsewhere, using the device felt pretty similar to using any number of other Samsung Galaxy Books, with a satisfyingly clicky keyboard, a smooth finish, a high-quality build, and a compact chassis. The Ultra is 0.65 inches thick and 3.9 pounds, which is slightly thinner and close to a pound lighter than the 16-inch MacBook Pro that Apple just released [...].

I was able to use a number of Samsung's continuity features, including Second Screen (which allows you to easily use a Galaxy Tab as a second monitor) and Quick Share (which allows you to quickly transfer images and other files between Samsung devices). For Samsung enthusiasts, those seem like handy features that aren't too much of a hassle to set up. The one feature I had issues with was the touchpad -- it registered some of my two-finger clicks as one-finger clicks and wasn't quite picking up all of my scrolls. The units in Samsung's demo area were preproduction devices, so I hope this is a kink Samsung can iron out before the final release.

Unfortunately, we don't yet know how it will stack up when it comes to battery life. The M2 generation of MacBooks is very strong on that front -- and given that the Galaxy Book3 Ultra is running a high-resolution screen, a power-hungry H-series processor, and a very power-hungry RTX GPU, I'm a little bit nervous about that. If Samsung can pull off a device that lasts nearly as long as Apple's do, given those factors, hats off to them.
Further reading:
The Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra Is a Minor Update To a Spec Monster
Samsung, Google and Qualcomm Team Up To Build a New Mixed-Reality Platform
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  • by Virtucon ( 127420 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @07:55PM (#63258617)

    I've hated the shift to 16:9 ever since they started doing it. Hopefully, these 16:10 panels will make it into other laptops and displays obviously in larger sizes too.

    • The 16:10 is a better aspect ratio for knowledge work. I have no idea what is with the ultra wide screens other than for gaming I guess? I dont see how the Samsung compares, given it uses intel CPUs and not custom silicon. It also does not have the T2 security chip. Comparing all the macs to PCs though has always seemed to me a fools errand. No one believes they are equal. Either you use Macs, believe they are better, and pay for the appliance or you use PCs and believe they are better be find your fit amon
      • Comparing all the macs to PCs though has always seemed to me a fools errand. No one believes they are equal. Either you use Macs, believe they are better, and pay for the appliance or you use PCs and believe they are better be find your fit among the options.

        Yep. No Mac user is going to switch because of this and no PC user will be saved from going to the dark side. This is just for PC users with deep pockets.

        • I buy whatever, wipe it, & install Linux so I'll look at whatever's available in my price/performance range. Macbooks are a pig to install Linux on though.
          • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

            by saloomy ( 2817221 )
            Mac OS runs Darwin and with home-brew, what do you really need to install linux for? Most linux software will run on a Mac, and you can even develop on the Mac and compile for linux.
    • I've hated the shift to 16:9 ever since they started doing it. Hopefully, these 16:10 panels will make it into other laptops and displays obviously in larger sizes too.

      I'm holding out for 16:11.

      The benefits over 16:10 are huge.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      Most of Lenovo's Thinkpads have 16:10 displays now. It seems to be the new standard for workstation machines.

  • Safe guesses (Score:3, Insightful)

    by linuxguy ( 98493 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @07:57PM (#63258621) Homepage
    Compete with Macbooks? I would be willing to bet that it will:

    1. Lose a lot of juice while "sleeping". Modern Standby on all Windows laptops is hot garbage.
    2. When awake, will lose battery much faster than any modern Macbook.
    3. Run hotter than a modern Macbook.
    4. Make more noise than a modern Macbook.
    5. Underperform a modern Macbook.
      • by Anonymous Coward
        you mean by having standby and sleep modes that are even more broken?
      • With H-series Intel chips? There's not a lot the OS can do when the CPUs require infrastructure of a nuclear power plant to power and cool.
    • Re:Safe guesses (Score:5, Interesting)

      by gravewax ( 4772409 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @08:20PM (#63258679)
      mac sleep is hot garbage as well. hard to believe anything would be hotter than a modern macbook (though in fairness if anyone can fail worse it will be samsung), they are absolute shit for cooling, apple has chosen form over function when it comes to keeping them cool.
      • Re:Safe guesses (Score:4, Interesting)

        by keltor ( 99721 ) * on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @08:36PM (#63258715)
        This M2 Max MBP 16 gets slightly warm. SO's MBA M1 is straight up cold to the touch. Are you confusing the ARM Macs with the Intel ones (which were a compromise vs sounding like a hurricane.)
        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by gravewax ( 4772409 )
          try using those M1 or M2's for real workloads, not internet browsing. Or just have a search for all the articles on them overheating. My wifes who does visual arts and 3D on it basically has to have it sitting on a cooling pad or it is constantly thermally throttled.
          • try using those M1 or M2's for real workloads, not internet browsing. Or just have a search for all the articles on them overheating. My wifes who does visual arts and 3D on it basically has to have it sitting on a cooling pad or it is constantly thermally throttled.

            Let me guess: MacBook Air, right?

            You know that doesn't have a fan.

            I don't believe she has a MacBook Pro with any Apple Silicon SoC.

            See this video comparison, then come back and apologize:

            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=... [youtube.com]

            If you wish, you can start watching at about time-index 06:00. I'll wait.

            • Let me guess: MacBook Air, right?

              You know that doesn't have a fan.

              Wait, wait so Apple's way of building a fanless machine is simply to make it overheat and throttle all the time? This is the famed Apple build quality?

              • Let me guess: MacBook Air, right?

                You know that doesn't have a fan.

                Wait, wait so Apple's way of building a fanless machine is simply to make it overheat and throttle all the time? This is the famed Apple build quality?

                The MacBook Air is not designed for extended, balls-to-walls heavy CPU+GPU workloads. That's why the MacBook Pros have fans. Under anything but extended artificial stress-tests (e.g. under typical workloads), the Apple Silicon MacBook Air actually runs cool to the touch.

                Horses for courses, eh?

              • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

                Has been for years. The Intel ones were the same, hit the 99C thermal limit in 1 second under load and stayed pegged there. The only difference with the ARM ones is that it takes very slightly longer to thermal throttle, but we are still talking seconds.

              • I think his point is that Apple has different models with varying usages in mind. If someone is using an Air to do Pro level tasks, why should they expect there would be no downsides like heat. Likewise, I do not expect a consumer oriented Dell laptop to be a gaming/workstation powerhouse.
      • Re:Safe guesses (Score:4, Interesting)

        by linuxguy ( 98493 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @10:54PM (#63258969) Homepage
        "mac sleep is hot garbage as well."

        Try this. Put a modern Windows laptop to sleep. *Any* brand. Do the same to a modern Macbook. Throw them in a backpack. Wake them up 2 days later. The Windows laptop will have lost a lot of battery juice, while the Macbook would be near 100%.

        Modern standby on Windows tries to do shit while the laptop is supposed to be asleep. It tries to download Windows updates while sleeping. And then can, and frequently does, wake up the laptop to full power to apply said updates. Why the fuck would it do that? Most of us have too often taken a hot Windows laptop out of a bag, trying to murder its own battery with heat that cannot escape the bag.

        And it is not a new issue. Its been like this for years! And the people have been complaining about it for years. Linus (different Linus) Tech Tips posted a video with details recently. He says that MS told him that the issue is difficult to produce. Weird. I can produce this problem with *every* modern Windows laptop.
        • Since getting my latest work machine (a T14G3 AMD) and being forced to figure out modern standby (they've removed the BIOS option for S3 sleep), I've found that setting the machine to hibernate after an hour or so is the only way to preserve your battery in a bag over night.

          Modern standby itself is a complete clusterfuck....

          • Since getting my latest work machine (a T14G3 AMD) and being forced to figure out modern standby (they've removed the BIOS option for S3 sleep), I've found that setting the machine to hibernate after an hour or so is the only way to preserve your battery in a bag over night.

            Modern standby itself is a complete clusterfuck....

            Not on macOS. . .

            • Meaning it's not an issue on MacOS? Or that hibernation doesn't fix the issue on MacOS?

              • You can do either sleep or hibernate on Macbooks both work exactly as you would expect. Intel MacBook can be a little slow to properly wake up from sleep on occasion, where some peripherals struggle to wake properly. M1/2 MacBooks are back to perfect, just like it was during the days of PowerPC. You close your MB and it instantly goes to sleep. You open your MB and it instantly wakes ups. No hot bags or mad spinning fans. My work HP laptop needs to be shutdown else it cooks itself. Same with my wife's Del
              • Meaning it's not an issue on MacOS? Or that hibernation doesn't fix the issue on MacOS?

                Except for a few times through history, macOS has generally enjoyed great Wake-From-Sleep performance.

                Sorry I wasn't clear.

          • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

            The theory behind modern standby is sort of okay, I mean phones do it quite successfully. The problem is that Windows and MacOS are shit at being low power operating systems. Phones are very aggressive about throttling and simply killing tasks that try to operate in the background, and handle stuff like polling for incoming messages at the OS level so it can be done efficiently.

            Windows and MacOS are just not built for that. Apps running on them are not built to be aggressively power managed in that way. Bot

        • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

          Modern standby on Windows tries to do shit while the laptop is supposed to be asleep. It tries to download Windows updates while sleeping. And then can, and frequently does, wake up the laptop to full power to apply said updates. Why the fuck would it do that? Most of us have too often taken a hot Windows laptop out of a bag, trying to murder its own battery with heat that cannot escape the bag.

          The problem is that there are two Modern Standby power states. There's Modern Standby (AC Adapter) and Modern Sta

      • I never use standby modes. With fast machines, they boot up & launch apps fast enough that it isn't an issue for me. Most apps remember recent files too.
    • 1. Lose a lot of juice while "sleeping". Modern Standby on all Windows laptops is hot garbage.

      Oh really? My laptop has 75% charge left in it and I haven't touched it since Saturday. Hardly the definition of "hot garbage"

      The rest of your points may be right, but then honestly who cares. Certainly I've not seen anyone say "this is a great laptop, but if only it were 5C cooler!". Likewise most people doing work are not waiting on their laptops to finish some computational activity. I put that firmly in the "why would anyone pay extra of the i7 model" territory.

      But you're missing the obvious thing. Macb

    • Worse - Samsung make nice hardware, but their software is, without exception, awful. Thus you can expect driver issues every second week too.

    • I bet 1-4 are true, but 5 isn't, especially for any tasks which are GPU accelerated. The modern macbook doesn't have anywhere near that much GPU, and it doesn't have as much CPU either. It has more memory bandwidth, and that matters very much for some types of tasks, for not very much at all for others. They also don't say, but there's a good chance it will be available with twice the RAM (All they do say is that it's slightly cheaper with the same amount of RAM.)

  • The same market? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Powercntrl ( 458442 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @07:58PM (#63258625) Homepage

    That's kinda like saying a Tesla roadster is targeted to the same market as people who love the roar of a big V8.

    People buy Mac hardware because they're invested in Apple's macOS ecosystem. Apple's hardware selection is what it is, take it or leave it. This Samsung laptop is targeted to people who want high-end Wintel hardware and aren't interested in jumping to Apple's platform. Basically, it's for PC users with a nice fat budget - but I guess that makes for a pretty boring article once you leave out the "poke the Apple beehive" flamebait.

    • by khchung ( 462899 )

      People buy Mac hardware because they're invested in Apple's macOS ecosystem. Apple's hardware selection is what it is, take it or leave it.

      I am one of those invested in the Apple ecosystem, and that's exactly also what I thought when I saw the headline.

      "...Samsung's shot at the MacBook Pro"? Did they run MacOS? No? Then it isn't for me.

      That was what many who didn't use Apple stuff do not understand, many people buy Apple stuff because of its ecosystem, and I mean the whole Mac-iPhone-iPad-Apple Watch-iTunes ecosystem. Apple stuff works well together, and after one invested in a few of these devices, adding any non-Apple stuff often create

    • Correct. If anything they are in the market of the Surface Books, not the Macbooks.

    • Are you equating overclocked gaming rig owners with rednecks?
    • The Samsung laptops are targeted at making sure Samsung stays somewhat relevant in the PC space. Their gaming laptops have been laughable, their productivity laptops too fragile for any work place, and their non-standard BIOS and component configuration unfriendly at best to open source OSes. On the spectrum of PCs, they are at the very bottom end, but they need them so they can appear to have a super cool ecosystem like Apple does. Unless they are a Samsung super fanboy, PC users with a fat budget will tak
    • And because it isn't made out of plastic that shatters if you look at it funny.

      TFA is caught in an RDF, doublespeak:

      " wildly expensive MacBook Pro 16" ...
      ""It'll start at $2,399.99 ($100 cheaper than the base MacBook Pro 16)"

      4% big whoop. Moreover, $2500 for a tool one may use 40+ hours a week for years is hardly wildly expensive. With a nominal 3 year corporate refresh cycle, that's $69.40 a month, even less with a refresh cycle that's commonly longer.

  • by hdyoung ( 5182939 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @08:15PM (#63258667)
    For the 95 minutes that I get from the battery. If I need more I’ll just be sure to bring along the optional mini power pack COUGHdieselgeneratorCOUGH.
    • by leonbev ( 111395 )

      The new Intel laptop CPUs are pretty low power. I'd expect at least 6 hours of battery life unless you start playing games on it. At that point, you would be lucky to get 2 hours before you needed to plug in.

      • The new Intel laptop CPUs are pretty low power. I'd expect at least 6 hours of battery life unless you start playing games on it. At that point, you would be lucky to get 2 hours before you needed to plug in.

        The only way this blast-furnace gets 6 hours on a charge is if you leave it in Sleep Mode!

      • The h-series CPUs? Surely you jest. If you wanted efficiency in the x86 mobile world, get a Rembrandt or (upcoming) Phoenix-based laptop.

      • I'm not a fan of Apple but the one thing they do do well is battery life. Their estimates are usually pretty accurate & stay true for several years during the life of a laptop. I ran Linux on an old MBP & the battery life was still good. It's decent hardware but just wish they wouldn't make them so "Linux-unfriendly."
  • Samsung and LG laptops are mostly just a Korean home market business for them and both have been be going down in sales and in 2022 they went into free fall and lost their #1 and #2 market. Samsung and LG are both having a lot of issues, unfortunately pretty bad to them.
  • Apple can get away with those prices because it has a great following (almost cult-like) who'll pay anything for Apple products. The PC market (yeah, I know Apple falls under that, but you know what I mean) is not like that. It's more frugal in general. I'm actually a big fan of Apple hardware, when I can buy it 2nd-hand on the cheap (which Apple is trying to do away with [slashdot.org]). So if the PC market bites on this unit, then maybe I have some options for my 2nd-hand stuff, but the problem is it's just too expe
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by NoMoreACs ( 6161580 )

      (which Apple is trying to do away with [slashdot.org]).

      Liar.

    • by jon3k ( 691256 )

      Apple can get away with those prices because it has a great following (almost cult-like) who'll pay anything for Apple products.

      Let me start by saying I don't own a Mac or have any interest in owning a Mac. My last Mac was a Macbook Air in 2010 that I barely used.

      What you're describing is basically 20 year old ideology. You're absolutely right, it used to be the fringe cultist who picked a objectively slower platform because of "design" or "simplicity" or some other hand-wavey bullshit. But over 15% of PC sold last year in the US were Macs [statista.com]. That's a hell of a "cult." The reality is that, in my experience, a tremendous amount

      • Apple can get away with those prices because it has a great following (almost cult-like) who'll pay anything for Apple products.

        Let me start by saying I don't own a Mac or have any interest in owning a Mac. My last Mac was a Macbook Air in 2010 that I barely used.

        Jon3k: I have always respected your viewpoints. Even though obviously not in the Apple Camp, your Posts on these matters are refreshingly-free of the mindless rancor and tiresome outright lies of the Apple-Haters. Bravo!

        BTW, now is the hour to take another look at Apple. They really do seem to be kicking-ass and taking names; particularly in certain metrics! For instance, identical performance both on off AC Power. . .

        What you're describing is basically 20 year old ideology. You're absolutely right, it used to be the fringe cultist who picked a objectively slower platform because of "design" or "simplicity" or some other hand-wavey bullshit. But over 15% of PC sold last year in the US were Macs [statista.com]. That's a hell of a "cult." The reality is that, in my experience, a tremendous amount of professional software developers and professional creatives are working on Macs. These are people who's income is directly tied to the hardware and software they use on a daily basis it's not fashion.

        • Sorry for forgetting to close the quote tag!

        • by jon3k ( 691256 )
          Thanks, I appreciate that. I bought my s/o a new M2 Macbook Air and it really is incredible. It's so well built, the trackpad and display are so good and it is just so responsive. And the battery life is otherworldly. But I just prefer running linux on the desktop/laptop too much to switch to macOS personally. With that said, it's hard to be a software developer and not have a deep appreciation for the whole Apple macOS software experience.
          • Thanks, I appreciate that. I bought my s/o a new M2 Macbook Air and it really is incredible. It's so well built, the trackpad and display are so good and it is just so responsive. And the battery life is otherworldly. But I just prefer running linux on the desktop/laptop too much to switch to macOS personally. With that said, it's hard to be a software developer and not have a deep appreciation for the whole Apple macOS software experience.

            Cool! Glad you appreciate good hardware and software product engineering! I mean that sincerely!

            I do have one question, though: Isn't running macOS kinda the best of both worlds for a Linux guy? Seriously! Please educate me on how you can logically (rather than religiously) make a case for preferring Linux over macOS. I'm genuinely curious!

            Afterall, if some great Linux Devs like you would throw your considerable combined talents and resources into Developing and Improving Tools and Applications tuned (rathe

  • by NoMoreACs ( 6161580 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @09:03PM (#63258773)

    A screen that's 400 Nits as opposed to Apple's 1,000 Nits (1,500 max.); a joke of a Trackpad, poorly placed at that; Battery life so embarrassing they won't even mention it; the misses just keep on coming!

    What a sad joke.

    • by budkin ( 1685516 )
      which apple laptop screens are 1000 nits? my m1 air's screen is 400
      • which apple laptop screens are 1000 nits? my m1 air's screen is 400

        Well, unless it's a typo; both the 14" and 16" XDR Displays on the M2 MacBook Pros. Read (16" shown) :

        Display
        Liquid Retina XDR display
        16.2-inch (diagonal) Liquid Retina XDR display;1 3456-by-2234 native resolution at 254 pixels per inch

        XDR (Extreme Dynamic Range)
        1,000,000:1 contrast ratio
        XDR brightness: 1000 nits sustained full-screen, 1600 nits peak2 (HDR content only)
        SDR brightness: 500 nits
        Color
        1 billion colors
        Wide color (P3)
        True Tone technology
        Refresh rates
        ProMotion technology for adaptive refresh rates

        • You know there are over-the-counter medicated shampoos to deal with that, right?
          • You know there are over-the-counter medicated shampoos to deal with that, right?

            Indeed!

            If you have Nits, it hardly matters whether you have 400, 500 or 1,000 of them!

  • by jdawgnoonan ( 718294 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @09:20PM (#63258821)
    "Unfortunately, we don't yet know how it will stack up when it comes to battery life. The M2 generation of MacBooks is very strong on that front -- and given that the Galaxy Book3 Ultra is running a high-resolution screen, a power-hungry H-series processor, and a very power-hungry RTX GPU, I'm a little bit nervous about that. If Samsung can pull off a device that lasts nearly as long as Apple's do, given those factors, hats off to them." It will not be close and you know it. I will be surprised if that gets more than 10 hours, which is okay. But even if it can get 16 hours it will be lagging behind the M2 or M1 Macbook Pro. Some might view Windows as a positive, but most customers who like Macbook Pros won't.
    • by Entrope ( 68843 )

      How many users really need more than 16 hours on a single battery charge?

      Of course, those runtimes are almost always in some narrow use case like watching video. Desktop applications or software development or whatever will lose a third or more of that battery life, which is where it becomes relevant in the real world.

      • How many users really need more than 16 hours on a single battery charge?

        Of course, those runtimes are almost always in some narrow use case like watching video. Desktop applications or software development or whatever will lose a third or more of that battery life, which is where it becomes relevant in the real world.

        It will be more like 4-6 hours.

        • by Entrope ( 68843 )

          What a useless comment. Which one will have a battery life more like 4-6 hours? Doing what?

          Battery life tests [tomsguide.com] for "continuous web surfing at 150 nits" (so pretty dim, but maybe usable indoors) show considerably above 6 hours of battery for both a 2023 MBP and a Dell XPS 15 of unspecified details. The Samsung laptop in this story will probably have considerably worse battery life than that Dell, especially when CPU or GPU use is cranked up.

          • What a useless comment. Which one will have a battery life more like 4-6 hours? Doing what?

            Battery life tests [tomsguide.com] for "continuous web surfing at 150 nits" (so pretty dim, but maybe usable indoors) show considerably above 6 hours of battery for both a 2023 MBP and a Dell XPS 15 of unspecified details. The Samsung laptop in this story will probably have considerably worse battery life than that Dell, especially when CPU or GPU use is cranked up.

            Sorry.

            I thought it was pretty obvious that I was talking about the Samsung having crappy battery life.

      • How many users really need more than 16 hours on a single battery charge? ... 640K ought to be enough for anybody. Come on.
      • by Bert64 ( 520050 )

        Everyone, because the quoted figures of 16 hours will be based on very light use with the screen brightness turned down etc. Under more normal usage patterns the battery life is a lot lower.

      • Yep, you hit it on the nail; it comes down to doing actual work instead of idling. Anecdotally, crunch a bunch of code on my work Intel laptop and I get 1-3 hours of runtime and it runs slow. Crunch a bunch of code on my Macbook Air M1 and I get 8 hours of runtime which is still an entire day off the juice, not to mention it runs pretty fast. Crunch a bunch of code on my AMD based gaming laptop in Linux, and well, it puts up a pretty good fight actually, like 5 hours of runtime with imperceptible slowdown.
    • "Unfortunately, we don't yet know how it will stack up when it comes to battery life.

      Oh, yes we do. . .

    • It won't be close for real use. With a mac, you just open it up and start using it. It's pretty much the machine as-intended, plus whatever application you need to work on.

      With windows, you need to install anti virus and whatnot and setup a thousand and one things (especially if working in a corporate). Being Samsung, you'll additionally have a plethora of bloatware applications on there, all popping up for your attention, running unexplained background services, self-updaters and whatnot too. There's no wa

  • ...if it's half the price of a comparable MacBook Pro.

  • Samsung makes a number of Galaxy Book models, but this is the first one of the past few years that has really targeted the deep-pocketed professional user -- that is, the core audience for Apple's high-powered and wildly expensive MacBook Pro 16.

    I could never get a Samsung--I'm creative. [youtube.com]

  • Can I use the GPU at full power when running on battery? Or is the GPU only fully available on mains power?

  • The resolution is less than that of the a macbook: 3456 × 2234 vs. 2880 x 1800 Come on man. And yes I'd easily notice that, I have better than 20/10 vision.

    • The resolution is less than that of the a macbook: 3456 × 2234 vs. 2880 x 1800 Come on man. And yes I'd easily notice that, I have better than 20/10 vision.

      Epic Fail.

  • You could put a Rolls-Royce engine in a Yugo but it's still a Yugo.

    Say what you want, but as a deep user of all three major OSes, I can tell you that the Mac OS has the most polish and least amount of headaches associated with it. If you enjoy dicking with your OS, Linux and Windows are good choices. If you want to get stuff done, use a Mac.

  • Samsung makes a number of Galaxy Book models, but this is the first one of the past few years that has really targeted the deep-pocketed professional user [...] It'll start at $2,399.99 ($100 cheaper than the base MacBook Pro 16),

    Yeah, $100 is going to make a huuuuge difference when I choose between a Macbook Pro or a non-Macbook Pro. Stupid Chaebol executive dumbasses...

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