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Apple Removes SIM Card Tray On All iPhone 14 Models In US (macrumors.com) 153

Apple today announced that all iPhone 14 models sold in the U.S. do not have a built-in SIM card tray and instead rely entirely on eSIM technology. MacRumors reports: Tech specs on Apple's website confirm the iPhone 14, iPhone 14 Plus, iPhone 14 Pro, and iPhone 14 Pro Max are not compatible with physical SIM cards and instead have dual eSIM support, allowing for multiple cellular plans to be activated on a single device. An eSIM is a digital SIM that allows users to activate a cellular plan without having to use a physical nano-SIM card. eSIM availability is rapidly expanding, but the technology is still not available in all countries, which explains why iPhone 14 models will remain available with a SIM card tray outside of the U.S. for now. Apple's website has a list of carriers that support eSIM technology around the world. In the U.S., this includes AT&T, T-Mobile, US Cellular, Verizon, Xfinity Mobile, Boost Mobile, H2O Wireless, Straight Talk, C Spire, and some others.
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  • Sounds good to me (Score:5, Interesting)

    by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @06:29PM (#62860969)

    One less thing opening in a phone that can get water in it is a win for my book, and in the U.S. I imagine this means all models can work with any carrier, making it easier to switch.

    • by markdavis ( 642305 ) on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @06:55PM (#62861023)

      >"One less thing opening in a phone that can get water in it is a win for my book"

      I won't buy a phone that doesn't have an SD slot, so in my case, there is already an opening. And most of the models that have an SD slot use the same tray and opening for the SIM. I also insist on having an analog headphone jack, so that is another opening (somehow those seem to be water-resistant now, anyway).

      A physical SIM card allows me to put my "service", instantly, into any phone (that has a SIM slot). And I can do so whenever and however I like. I don't have to go online and fill out some form. I don't have to enter a bunch of numbers (except initially). I don't have to go into some app and do something. I don't have to call my carrier and be on hold for an hour, either. It just works. My main phone dies? I just move the SIM into my previous spare phone, for example. I buy a new phone, I just move the card and I am done again. I want to borrow a device or try it on a tablet? Just pop the card in.

      On the flip side- a physical SIM can be damaged and has to be physically acquired. My previous phone sometimes has problems the the service disappearing and I would have to remove the SIM and rub it a bit and insert it again. (Phone before it never a problem, phone after that never a problem. You can also have more than 1 line activated with eSIM, something previously only possible on rare phones that had multiple SIM card capability.

      Doing a bit of research now, it looks like the process of activating an eSIM has been improved a LOT. I guess my conclusion is that it probably doesn't matter much anymore which you use. Each has a few advantages over the other, but nothing major. Unless you want multiple lines, I don't see eSIM as much of an advantage.

      • I also use it when my internet goes down. I have a backup 4G router. Pop my phone's SIM in it, and I'm back online.
      • I won't buy a phone that doesn't have an SD slot, so in my case, there is already an opening. And most of the models that have an SD slot use the same tray and opening for the SIM.

        Indeed, but that doesn't mean it's good. I don't use the SIM in the SD slot for good reason. Every time you open it the tiny damn thing falls out. At least the SD sits in the tray better than the nano SIM does. SIM cards were a pain in the arse and I'm glad to not need them.

        Using eSIMs these days is incredibly painless.

        • I have to admit, it can be rather difficult to keep both of those tiny cards in the tray while getting them in the single slot.

    • Re:Sounds good to me (Score:4, Informative)

      by fermion ( 181285 ) on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @06:58PM (#62861035) Homepage Journal
      I tried to an esim switch over the phone. Try to read the million digit code for the phone 1o times. Hours wasted. Still had to go into a store. Wait an hour, have the person bring out an sim pack which I was charged for. One thing I have learned is despite all efficiencies and advancement in technology, the mobile phone operator is still the biggest time suck no matter where you go in the world.
      • I tried to an esim switch over the phone. Try to read the million digit code for the phone 1o times. Hours wasted.

        When was this, when eSIMs came out? Let me tell you how I activated an eSIM:
        Step 1: Scan QR code.
        Step 2: Click ok.

        Done. If you're on wifi with the device you're trying to activate the eSIM on then the additional step may be to screenshot the QR code and select the screenshot file rather than scanning it.

    • by NagrothAgain ( 4130865 ) on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @07:48PM (#62861175)
      It also means there's no way for an average person to truly disable their phone short of completely draining the battery.
      • by dryeo ( 100693 )

        Huh? Without a sim, the phone still connects so you can phone 911

      • a phone is not "disabled" if you remove the SIM.

        Look into faraday pouches - and if you get one make sure you test it as not all of them really work.

      • by Anubis IV ( 1279820 ) on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @11:45PM (#62861725)

        It also means there's no way for an average person to truly disable their phone short of completely draining the battery.

        You mean it might make the average person realize that’s already true? Remove the SIM from the phone you have on you right now and...

        - You’ll still be able to make emergency calls
        - Your location can still be triangulated thanks to the IMEI number your device continues to transmit even if the SIM is removed (i.e. the same number they use to blacklist stolen devices on networks, even if the thief swaps SIMs)
        - A child you hand your “disabled” phone to can be up and running in moments by simply enabling WiFi

        Removing the SIM is not nearly as effective as you think.You’ve been watching too many movies.

        Oh, and draining the battery? Not as effective as you think either. For instance, even if you drain a modern iPhone until it powers down, it’ll still retain a reserve charge that can be used to trace it in the Find My network.

        This is one of those instances where the “tin foil hat” crowd actually kinda has it right: anything less than a Faraday cage is an ineffective measure.

        • by mjwx ( 966435 )

          It also means there's no way for an average person to truly disable their phone short of completely draining the battery.

          You mean it might make the average person realize that’s already true? Remove the SIM from the phone you have on you right now and...

          - You’ll still be able to make emergency calls
          - Your location can still be triangulated thanks to the IMEI number your device continues to transmit even if the SIM is removed (i.e. the same number they use to blacklist stolen devices on networks, even if the thief swaps SIMs)
          - A child you hand your “disabled” phone to can be up and running in moments by simply enabling WiFi

          Removing the SIM is not nearly as effective as you think.You’ve been watching too many movies.

          Oh, and draining the battery? Not as effective as you think either. For instance, even if you drain a modern iPhone until it powers down, it’ll still retain a reserve charge that can be used to trace it in the Find My network.

          This is one of those instances where the “tin foil hat” crowd actually kinda has it right: anything less than a Faraday cage is an ineffective measure.

          The tin foil hatters are right in this situation.

          You can still get the IMEI, MAC and other unique identifiers without a SIM, but you've no idea who's they are because there is no database tying these to your name, unlike a SIM and phone number. Considering I can buy a phone from overseas, ship it over and set it up without Her Madge's govt knowing, but every SIM I buy has to be registered.

          A phone with a SIM can be traced, a phone without a SIM is an anonymous blip in a sea of blips. It doesn't make it

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      Before COVID when I travelled internationally, I would usually get a local SIM card and pop it in my phone.

      I can't remember if the tourist SIM providers even support eSIM. In Japan they are special SIMs that for legal reasons can't make calls (just use Skype), they are data only. Even if they do, am I going to have to reconfigure it every single time I want to swap SIMs?

      I don't buy the waterproofing argument. Everyone else manages to make waterproof SIM card trays with a simple rubber seal. My current Pixel

    • by mjwx ( 966435 )

      One less thing opening in a phone that can get water in it is a win for my book, and in the U.S. I imagine this means all models can work with any carrier, making it easier to switch.

      Erm... I just dont submerge my phone in water. Seems simple enough.

      Also this can easily be used to make it hard to switch carriers, as which eSIMs you can utilised can be controlled in software.

  • Yeah, just let the Saudi state telco remotely program your phone when you get to the airport. That'll work out great.

    I'm rolling my eyes at how astonishing this is.

  • From this Reference: https://www.fiercewireless.com... [fiercewireless.com]
    According to Entner, when carriers move to eSIM, hackers may continue to call them and ask them to transfer your number to a new device. He said hackers might be able to give the carrier the IMEI number for the new device and convince the customer service representative to make the change. It all depends on how lazy and how unmotivated the carrier employee is to actually follow the rules, he said. Sometimes these people are just trying to please the cust

  • after the iphone 14 is out check amazon or ebay and i bet there will be "international" versions with a physical sim card tray that will work in the USA, and it is just places like apple stores and best buy or USA versions at various locations will be only eSIM versions
    • Ya, maybe the SIM card tray attaches via a Lightning dongle ... :-)

  • How do you get the eSIM out to quickly move to another phone - say a cheap spare??

    If I can transfer by calling the provider, then someone else can too.

    I know the whole identity and address book in the SIM days are long gone, but having a physical module to control access to the network (or, rather, the benefits supplied by that setup) was one of the key reasons customers prefered GSM over CDMA networks. I can't quite see how eSIM differs from the old CDMA lock-in - anyone care to enlighten me?

    • It's really fun when your phone breaks and your carrier won't let you sign in without a 2FA text, sent to your non-functional phone of course.

      The fix for this usually is "go to the carrier's retail location with your government-issued ID". Ostensibly so they can talk you into buying another overpriced phone.

    • with CDMA2000 you usually couldn't even use your phone on a different carrier.

    • The eSIMs I've seen come with a card and QR code you can scan.

      So delete old eSIM. Scan QR code, continue.

    • by Bert64 ( 520050 )

      You can already call the provider and transfer your service to a replacement physical sim, esim doesn't make things any worse in that regard.

      The CDMA setup was a phone tied to a single service, esim lets you load multiple esims into your device and switch between them (having 2 of them active and any number inactive at any given time).

    • How do you get the eSIM out to quickly move to another phone - say a cheap spare??
      By scanning the QR code again ...

      • by narcc ( 412956 )

        He's talking about transferring an esim from one phone to another. With a physical sim card, this is trivial. The same can not be said for esim.

  • by tiqui ( 1024021 ) on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @07:03PM (#62861049)

    Will this garbage never end?

    There's no magic involved here; it's NOT some new "technology", that's just a garbage (probably trademarked) marketing buzzword for "we left out the card socket and SIM chip, and just use a chunk of EEPROM/FRAM/Flash and some software". The whole POINT of the SIM card was to make phones independent from providers, and allow users to have control over which provider was associated with the phone (the phone had to get the provider info from the SIM, in a standardized format, and therefore was forced to be provider agnostic). Once the provider info is in the phone's internal memory in the format preferred by the phone maker, it's only a matter of time before the phone maker colludes with a provider and the result is a phone no longer moveable from provider to provider at the whim of the phone's owner.

    Typical Apple "innovation" - deprive the consumer of some actual hardware that provided actual flexibility and user-control, while saving Apple some money, and then sit back and smile while the bainwashed users, doing a perfect impression of junkies in need of a fix, flock to the nearest Apple store to over-pay for it, and then end-up deeper down the hole of a closed eco-system.

    • by Mousit ( 646085 )

      ...that's just a garbage (probably trademarked) marketing buzzword...

      "...eSIM is a global specification by the GSMA..." [wikipedia.org]

      ...for "we left out the card socket and SIM chip, and just use a chunk of EEPROM/FRAM/Flash and some software"...

      "...an eSIM is a virtualized SIM card profile installed onto an eUICC chip permanently surface mounted to a mobile device at the factory. [wikipedia.org]

      The whole POINT of the SIM card was to make phones independent from providers, and allow users to have control over which provider was associated with the phone (the phone had to get the provider info from the SIM, in a standardized format, and therefore was forced to be provider agnostic). Once the provider info is in the phone's internal memory in the format preferred by the phone maker, it's only a matter of time before the phone maker colludes with a provider and the result is a phone no longer moveable from provider to provider at the whim of the phone's owner.

      "...the eUICC chip used to host the eSIM uses the same electrical interface as a physical SIM as defined in ISO/IEC 7816. Once an eSIM carrier profile has been installed on an eUICC it operates the same as a physical SIM..." [wikipedia.org]

      But I mean, don't let pesky facts get in the way of a good uninformed rant.

      • by mark-t ( 151149 )

        the result is a phone no longer moveable from provider to provider at the whim of the phone's owner.

        What's the problem if a phone's owner doesn't want to switch providers exactly?

    • Typical slashdot response, too. Complain about old technology used to solve a problem that no longer exists being removed.

      When carriers sold you your phone, and it was hardware locked to said carrier, the SIM card was a solution. These days, the manufacturer of the phone sells direct to many consumers, and is independent of the carrier. Therefore, having a software setting to control which carrier is used, in a user friendly manner, makes sense.

      • The problem is that if you want to change devices with an eSIM, you can't just move the card between the old and new device. You have to interact with the carrier to get a new QR code -- a given eSIM only works on one device. Some carriers may charge you for the privilege.
        • The problem is that if you want to change devices with an eSIM, you can't just move the card between the old and new device. [...] Some carriers may charge you for the privilege.

          And some banks charge you a fee for the privilege of using an ATM. Did we solve that problem by sticking to pneumatic tubes at local branches, or did we solve it by simply taking our business elsewhere in response to outrageous fees? The concern you’re citing is a business problem, not a technology problem, and that fee you’re worrying about? There’s nothing stopping it from happening to you right now.

          I’ve personally had carriers refuse service when I transferred an existing, valid S

    • it's NOT some new "technology"

      Correct, it’s a GSMA-pushed industry standard from 2016 that’s seen widespread adoption, with over 1.2 billion eSIM-enabled devices in the wild as of last year and billions more on the way (estimates seem to suggest 3-7 billion devices by 2024, depending on who you listen to). Pretty much every flagship smartphone from every notable manufacturer seems to already support it, many of which have done so silently for the last few years. Apple, Samsung, Google, you name it. Check your own phone

    • Once the provider info is in the phone's internal memory in the format preferred by the phone maker, it's only a matter of time before the phone maker colludes with a provider and the result is a phone no longer moveable from provider to provider at the whim of the phone's owner.

      Sorry but that's horseshit. There's no scope for any collusion in eSIMs vs normal SIMs.

      Typical Apple "innovation"

      eSIMs are not an Apple innovation.

    • 'Typical Apple "innovation"'

      Among the many things that Apple did not invent is eSIM.

  • Until you run into that unforseeable situation where you must use a physical SIM card.

    But the Apple fashionistas don't care (not to be confused with the average Apple users, who play second fiddle in Apple's eyes). Apple can sell a literal piece of plastic and the fashionistas would buy it up.

  • by shubus ( 1382007 ) on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @07:44PM (#62861159)
    As an international traveler, many of us are accustomed to entering certain foreign countries and buying a new local SIM card at the airport with about a two week lifespan. You just swap in the SIM card and you're in business in the new country. The eSim only iPhone eliminates this possibility. The obvious solution is that if you really need an iPhone 14, then just buy it overseas where they come with dual SIM trays. Apple is being very short sighted by not making both available in the US.
    • by Mousit ( 646085 )
      You don't even need to go "overseas". It's only the U.S. model alone that removes the physical SIM support. Simply take a quick trip north and grab the Canadian model instead, which is not only priced almost the same as the U.S. model (European and Asian iPhones are often priced A LOT higher than U.S. units), it also uses the same frequency bands, making full compatibility a non-issue.

      I rather suspect Canadian iPhones are going to become a hot ticket item among Americans that need physical SIM support f
      • by mark-t ( 151149 )
        eSims coiuld be problematic in Canada on account of federal laws that prohibit carrier locking.
        • eSims coiuld be problematic in Canada on account of federal laws that prohibit carrier locking.

          What? eSIM no more locks your phone to a carrier than a standard SIM does. Replace the physical card with a reprogrammable chip. That’s all that eSIM is. It’s literally a virtual SIM card. It even uses the same physical interface in the hardware, which was spelled out with citations in a comment you personally replied to 20 minutes before you made this comment, so you should already know better.

    • by Bert64 ( 520050 ) <.moc.eeznerif.todhsals. .ta. .treb.> on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @11:58PM (#62861761) Homepage

      As an international traveller, i prefer to buy a foreign esim online before i go. Then it works the moment you land, no need to find the counter at the airport and hope it's still open when your flight landed at midnight.

      Instead of rejecting new technology, why not figure out how it can actually improve things?

      • This site is full of miserable old fucks who can't handle slight changes to anything.

        • Change is Ok, as long as it makes sense. Phasing out "egrep" and "fgrep" into just one "grep" was a good idea, since "-E" and "-F" have been options for a while. But eSim is like taking a step back to when you had to physically go into a Verizon store to have them activate a phone for you. It was inconvenient back then, and Sim swapping was a vast improvement. Why go back?
    • The eSim only iPhone eliminates this possibility.
      No it does not.
      You simply activate the second eSIM.

      You noticed that the new iPhone supports two eSIM's?

    • As an international traveler, many of us are accustomed to entering certain foreign countries and buying a new local SIM card at the airport with about a two week lifespan. You just swap in the SIM card and you're in business in the new country. The eSim only iPhone eliminates this possibility.

      How so? eSIM devices already do everything you suggest they don’t.

      You can have more than one eSIM on a device and can swap on-device between plans just the same as you can with any dual-SIM device. You can add an eSIM in the airport even more easily than you can a SIM (just scan a provided QR code). eSIM is an international standard with widespread adoption and easier distribution thanks to its lack of physical parts that need to be distributed. I did a T-Mobile “test drive” from my unlock

    • As an international traveler, many of us are accustomed to entering certain foreign countries and buying a new local SIM card at the airport with about a two week lifespan. You just swap in the SIM card and you're in business in the new country. The eSim only iPhone eliminates this possibility. The obvious solution is that if you really need an iPhone 14, then just buy it overseas where they come with dual SIM trays. Apple is being very short sighted by not making both available in the US.

      Yes, for the next few years this will be extremely inconvenient.

      However this will put a lot of pressure on phone providers to get their esim processes working (also for prepaid) and by the iPhone 17 or so it will probably be OK.

      Until then, get an iPhone from Europe, if there's any likelyhood that you want to travel, it does esim and normal sim...

  • Sounds reasonable. No one is asking users to install a special magic card to use a wifi network - mobile should be no different. Authenticate and go.

  • I'm still waiting for them to remove the volume buttons and the power button. Maybe even the power port, too.

    Now, I'm joking, but in all seriousness, they could remove the power slot and resort to wireless charging only. Furthermore, they could just make the volume buttons on-screen only. As for the power button, that becomes tricky.

    • by mark-t ( 151149 )
      Can I successfully sue Apple for the cost of a new car if they do that? Wireless carplay support is all but non-existent even in very new models of vehicles outside of a very limited set of manufacturers.
    • They could, but something as common as changing the volume becomes tedious if it must be done via a touchscreen.
      I know that even cars are switching many of their controls to touchscreens (something I hate) but some things are much easier when they have a dedicated hardware button.
    • by kackle ( 910159 )

      they could remove the power slot and resort to wireless charging only.

      Could you then charge it and use it at the same time?

    • Replacing normal power button use cases isn't tricky as the sensors for moving or shaking the phone are already there. The only problem is rebooting a stuck phone, if only the battery were removable...
  • This sounds do similar to the CDMA type phones that had no sum cards. They were carrier activated and often frequency locked. So even if another network supported your particular phone the odds were against you that they operate on the same frequency.
  • So sick of these advertisements for rotten fruit. Has /. been bought out by Apple? Proprietary bullshit is not what open source is about.

  • and both required physical sim cards to work reliably. The purchase was made in Phoenix while we were visiting family, then taken home to Southern NM. I suspect that Southern New Mexico's cell infrastructure is kinda creaky, but I also believe that is common for lots of rural areas.

    And no, I do not recall exactly what problems we experienced. I've slept since then. From our home, we frequently cannot activate new phones, we have to go down to the Verizon store to activate them, or at least that's bee
  • That is all this is, sims vs esim doesn't really matter much anymore. Every time I have gotten a new phone the sim card slot in the new phone was smaller, thereby making sims mostly useless unless you break your phone often.

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