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iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max Announced With Animated Notches and Always-on Displays (theverge.com) 109

Posted by msmash from the new-iPhones dept.
Apple has officially announced the iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max. In the first big display redesign since Apple introduced the iPhone X in 2017, both handsets have a new pill-shaped cutout that replaces the notch and can adjust dynamically. Both devices also have a faster A16 Bionic chip and an always-on display. From a report: Apple CEO Tim Cook calls the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max the "most innovative pro lineup yet." The iPhone 14 Pro will start at $999, and the iPhone 14 Pro Max starts at $1,099. Both will be available for preorder on September 9th and available in stores on September 16th. The first notable design change with the iPhone 14 Pro models is the display. While Apple will offer the usual 6.1- and 6.7-inch options, the notch is being replaced by a pill-shaped cutout that will house the Face ID components and a second circular cutout for the front-facing camera. Apple has moved the proximity sensor behind the display, and notifications will now pop out of the notch in an animation. Apple calls this system the Dynamic Island. Notifications and alerts will adapt and move around the pill-shaped notch, and Apple is really leaning into how it animates and uses the system for new notifications. Apple demonstrated a variety of ways the Dynamic Island will animate and work in practice, including live activity widgets coming to life and animations and controls for music. When you swipe to go home, background tasks like music playback will move to the island.
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  • Notch (Score:2, Insightful)

    by phantomfive ( 622387 )

    The notch was the dumbest phone design idea ever.

    I rate it slightly above the Samsung Note 7's ability to spontaneously combust, except that wasn't an intentional design (and had entertainment value).

    • Re:Notch (Score:4, Funny)

      by Tablizer ( 95088 ) on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @02:17PM (#62860335) Journal

      > notch was the dumbest phone design idea ever.

      They are doubling down on the notch by animating it now: it dances and teases. It's like making a Star Wars movie starring Jar Jar because of prior complaints.

      (Personally, I'm a Jar Jar fan. The Force works through his clumsiness. He channels chaos.)

    • I rate it slightly above the Samsung Note 7's ability to spontaneously combust, except that wasn't an intentional design (and had entertainment value).

      Remember the GTA mod that replaced bombs/grenades with Note 7s? That was epic.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

    • I just don't get the problem with the notch. Yes, ideally we would have behind-display sensors so no notch is necessary. We already have behind-display fingerprint sensors, but in my experience their speed and reliability is horrible, so I really expect it to be a long time before we have a high quality, behind screen selfie camera. So in that absence, what are the alternatives? I'm amazed that people who complain about a notch generally don't complain about what is in essence a 100% width notch. And a punc

      • Same. The notch doesn't bother me in the least.

        • I absolutely hate the notch. Every time I see an iPhone's screen, yup there's that distracting cut-out. That stupid notch is the main reason I stopped buying iPhones and moved over to Android on a Google Pixel.
          • The iPhone notch honestly doesn't deserve all the attention it gets -- most of which is presumably from folks who don't use it regularly, such as yourself. I honestly don't really notice it all that much and the notch's impact on my using the phone is exactly zero.

            I'm iPhone for work (notch) and Android for personal (hole punch) and don't notice either of them really.

          • Re: (Score:3)

            by dgatwood ( 11270 )

            I absolutely hate the notch. Every time I see an iPhone's screen, yup there's that distracting cut-out. That stupid notch is the main reason I stopped buying iPhones and moved over to Android on a Google Pixel.

            *blinks*

            Doesn't the Pixel have a notch? Or do you just mean that you can hide it?

            • My recollection from my pixel 3 pro was that there was a setting to turn the notch into a bezel, though it wasn't a setting I used so I might be misremembering exactly how it worked.

      • The top bezel doesn't interfere with the picture., the notch is a cluster of hundreds of dead pixels on the display that does interfere with the picture. Just make it go away.

        • How does the top bezel not interfere with the picture? It's 100% dead pixels, wall to wall, by design. That then forces the clock and notification icon bar to sit BELOW it, eating up more usable screen than if they just sat left and right of the notch.

          • Because humans prefer viewports that don't have weird holes or notches in them. So, technically you get a viewport that's a tiny bit larger, but in reality the result is butt ugly and annoying.

      • I'd rather see a bigger top bezel than a notch. The notch gives the illusion of wasted screen space, even though it's really extra screen space around the notch (that's not really useful). If all software functioned properly around the notch? Who would care. But there are still some things that try to display information in just the right way where you can read part of it, and the rest resides in the notch. Which is completely ass-backwards.

        • But there are still some things that try to display information in just the right way where you can read part of it, and the rest resides in the notch. Which is completely ass-backwards.

          Can you provide an example?

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by Bert64 ( 520050 )

            He can't, because older iphone apps treat the display in newer phones as rectangular, totally ignoring the space either side of the notch while newer iphone apps are aware of the notch.

      • I personally loved the pop-up camera on the OnePlus 7 / 7t Pro. Selfie camera was only there if it was being used, otherwise it went away and you had uninterrupted screen. Then they ditched it for the same punch-hole crap everyone else has.

        • Yeah, that's a pretty nifty solution. I barely use the frontal camera so that'd would be a good one for me. The only problem I can see is that it might break more easily than a regular phone when it inevitably falls to the ground from time to time.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

        It seems to irritate some people's OCD, or maybe just their Apple hatred. Nobody else cares.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by Rhipf ( 525263 )

        A 100% "notch" isn't a notch it is a bezel.
        Does it take up some room that could be screen area? Sure but it also doesn't cut into the display area itself.
        The obvious answer is to just do away with the selfie camera altogether. 8^)

      • The new pill-shaped punchout hole is kind of interesting, if only for how they're utilizing it in software. They've turning a literal negative space into an eye catching feature by using it as the starting point for notifications that animate outward from that position. It's sort of hard to describe, but watch the video in the link. I think the Apple designers were pretty clever with this idea.

        • Oh, I've watched the video, and while it is a prettier version, I find it to be even worse. To make it work, it seems they've pulled the camera cutout even further from the edge than it needs to be. And then to make the "dynamic island" they black out an even bigger virtual notch that extends even further from the edge vertically than it needs to be. So it really eats even further into the screen space than it needs to, which I find kind of annoying. It's very much form over function.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by EvilSS ( 557649 )

        I just don't get the problem with the notch.

        That's probably because bitching about Apple isn't your religion and full time hobby.

      • It makes it a pain to program for no good reason.

    • This again. I never felt like the tiny amount of screen space that the top bezel occupies is such a devastating loss as to warrant having a cluster of hundreds of dead pixels on the display, which is exactly what all of these notches are.

    • Yeah, I don't think adding the ability to expand and contract to annoy you further is a smart move, but what the fuck do I know? I still think UI should be functional and intuitive rather than flashy and stupid. And I've clearly been voted down. Hard. Bring on the mind-numbingly dumb interfaces!

      Oh wait. Too late.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      The iPhone notch is huge too. Other phones have pinholes or small notches for the camera, but Apple has a whole bar.

      I guess it's to house multiple cameras and an IR projector for face unlock. Personally I much prefer fingerprint unlock, not least because it works while wearing a mask. Even before the pandemic, in countries where mask wearing is common it was a huge pain in the arse.

  • Ugh, "Pro" (Score:5, Insightful)

    by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @02:10PM (#62860319)

    Remember way, way back when Apple's "Pro" products actually had some relation to professional work rather than "50% more bling than our non-pro version"?

    • This being slashdot, perhaps your definition of âoeproâ is different from the target âoeproâ audience, namely A/V & Film pros. What would a slashdot âoeproâ want in a pro model iPhone that an 3rd party app couldnâ(TM)t provide?

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by dfghjk ( 711126 )

      No.

    • I find this overuse of "pro" branding as quite silly as well. What bothers me far more than it should is Amateur radio equipment with "pro" in the model name. It is illegal to do anything "professional" on Amateur radio, so why would any licensed Amateur radio operator want a "professional" radio? It might make sense if this was the same radio as used by professionals, and therefore built to their "professional" standards, but with a software change to make it legal on Amateur radio bands. Maybe that mi

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by mjwx ( 966435 )

      Remember way, way back when Apple's "Pro" products actually had some relation to professional work rather than "50% more bling than our non-pro version"?

      Me neither.

  • I hate both (Score:5, Interesting)

    by DontBeAMoran ( 4843879 ) on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @02:12PM (#62860327)

    Call it a notch or a pill-shaped cutout, it's just a stupid hole in an otherwise perfect display.

    That being said, this dynamic island thing is the proper way to do it. Don't try to hide hardware imperfections - make them part of your design. Apple certainly nailed it because it basically hides the actual cutout as soon as this island thing is active.

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Tablizer ( 95088 )

      > Don't try to hide hardware imperfections - make them part of your design

      Similarly, I emphasize my small "package" by putting Xmas decorations on it, even in July.

    • > That being said, this dynamic island thing is the proper way to do it. Don't try to hide hardware imperfections - make them part of your design. Apple certainly nailed it because it basically hides the actual cutout as soon as this island thing is active.

      You're right - this might be the best interface advancement Apple has invented in a long time.

      I had gotten used to a few a year when Apple ATG was kicking ass but a few a decade is better than none.

      IF they restrict the use of it properly it could also

    • I don't know. First, a disclaimer that I'm not critical of a notch (see my other post above). That said, in working this notch/cutout into the design, it seems to me that they pulled the necessary cutout area further down from the upper edge than it needs to be, then further ate (vertically) into the usable display area by making the animated island even taller than the notch needed to be. I agree it looks pretty, but to me it seems to make the phone even less functional...but I guess that's par for the cou

  • Generic (Score:5, Insightful)

    by phantomfive ( 622387 ) on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @02:13PM (#62860329) Journal

    Lately iPhones have been really generic looking. The iPhone 4 and the original iPhone were much more stylish. There is nothing that matches their design quality in recent models. Apple is coasting.

    • I love large bezels too. Who wants a large screen when you can have lots of bezel and a big button?

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by dgatwood ( 11270 )

        I love large bezels too. Who wants a large screen when you can have lots of bezel and a big button?

        Personally, I've used the new buttonless phones, and I prefer my iPhone 6s hands down. The home button "just works". It is simple, it does one thing, and it does it consistently. Gestures are the first thing I turn off when I get a new Mac, because they're a pain in the a** and get in the way. The last thing I want is for my phone to be similarly misbehaved, but in a way that you can't disable.

    • The original iPhones weren't "much more stylish". They were just first - a "new shiny" in the marketplace.

      Compared to today's minimalist designs, those phones (hardware and software) now look more like plastic toys.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by dgatwood ( 11270 )

        The original iPhones weren't "much more stylish". They were just first - a "new shiny" in the marketplace.

        Compared to today's minimalist designs, those phones (hardware and software) now look more like plastic toys.

        Compared to yesterday's rugged designs, today's high-glass phones now look more like an accident waiting to happen.

      • The comment wasn't whether they were minimalist. The question was whether they were stylish. The new iPhones are not stylish in the sense that they have no style. They're just generic.

        Don't comment unless you can figure out the difference between "stylish" and "minimalist"

  • ... in the screen. Just put that crap in the bezel. The scraps left over from the holes are useless.

  • FTFA: "If you’re interested in shooting video, the iPhone 14 Pro models have certainly got you covered. The cinematic mode can now do 4K resolution at 30fps and 4K at 24fps."

    Have got you covered... with video quality that my 5 year old phone shoots? I would have expected something along the lines of 120fps 4k video, since this is supposed to be a "pro" phone. THAT would have you scattered, covered, smothered and diced.

    • It'll record 60 fps at 4K in normal mode, the 24/30 fps is for the "cinematic mode" postprocessing that does fancy focus things.

      • It's funny how that works. "cinematic mode" is usually a market term for all the damn processing removed on other cameras letting you do that yourself in post processing.

  • That would be touted as innovation by the stockholders.

  • Still Lightning. Lame. (Score:3)

    by dgatwood ( 11270 ) on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @03:52PM (#62860585) Homepage Journal

    When are you going to start building phones with standard ports? This is getting obscene.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by CAIMLAS ( 41445 )

      You realize that lightning /is/ a standard port, right?

      It's also a superior port in literally every way to USB3+.

      • Re:Still Lightning. Lame. (Score:5, Insightful)

        by dgatwood ( 11270 ) on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @05:15PM (#62860801) Homepage Journal

        You realize that lightning /is/ a standard port, right?

        No. I wasn't aware that any standards body has recognized it as a standard port. To the best of my knowledge, it is a proprietary port used by a single company, licensed exclusively by that company for use exclusively with iOS devices. That does not qualify as a standard in any dictionary I've ever read.

        It's also a superior port in literally every way to USB3+.

        Are you kidding me? Lightning is vastly inferior to USB-C. Let me count the ways.

        • Safety: Exposed live power contacts on the plug.
        • Reliability: Official shell is too small for larger gauge wires, resulting in premature failure.
        • Reliability: Device has power contacts on only one side, resulting in a high rate of cords that only work if you plug them in one way.
        • Reliability: Proprietary communication chip causes frequent failures to authenticate and charge, even with Apple's own cables, when plugged into anything that has actual USB silicon.
        • Reliability: Proprietary communication chip is undocumented, resulting in low-quality knock-offs that work for only about a week.
        • Throughput: Lightning has only a single lane versus USB-C's two lanes.
        • Compatibility: Devices with USB-C can charge with my computer's power cord or with an iPad's power cord. Devices with Lightning can't.
        • Compatibility: Devices with USB-C can use the same cord to charge an external battery brick and then use it to charge their phone, because it's the same connector everywhere on both ends. Devices with Lightning, not so much.
        • Compatibility: Devices with USB-C can use the same USB-C accessories as your computer (headphones, audio interfaces, external storage, etc.); devices with Lightning can't.
        • Charging speed: AFAIK, USB-C cables can support a much higher maximum charging current than Lightning.
        • Cost: Every device manufactured with Lightning requires paying a fee to Apple on top of the manufacturing cost, and that's money out of your pocket.

        I'm pretty sure I'm forgetting several other reasons why Lightning is bad, as are all proprietary connectors.

        But please tell me how the craptastic Lighting connector is superior. If it were, the USB-IF would have adopted it instead of designing their own connector.

        • That's very interesting. I certainly like USB-C for being a nearly universal charger standard today, but I have had.. I don't know, 2 dozen lightning devices in the last decade (mice, keyboards, charging cases, dock, phones, ipads, etc), and I have NEVER seen a single one of those issues. Well, TBF, I did just replace the lightning cable in my car (where it's been plugged in since 2017) as it got debrided--it still worked fine though.

          Only works if plugged in one way? Frequent failures? Premature failure? I

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by dgatwood ( 11270 )

            I've snapped off Lightning cable tips before. I've also broken off USB-C cables. The difference is that the USB-C cables break where the wires go into the plug, whereas the Lightning cables have a decent chance of breaking in a way that leaves a flat piece inside the bottom of the phone that has to be extracted with a needle. :-/

            We were throwing away a couple of cheap Chinese-made Lightning cables per week at my last job because of chip failures. Don't even think about buying the no-name cables that come

            • I've only used Apple-brand cables or Monoprice cables, so that could definitely be part of it.

              Agree re: the picking gunk out of the socket with a pin. I've had to do that several times--pocket lint seems to build up until it reaches the point the lightning connector won't go in all the way. I'm not sure if that's unique to lightning or not, but it's absolutely an issue!

              I stuck with an 6s for years until I switched to an almost identical-to-the-6s SE. I like the touch ID and smaller size. I'm likewise waitin

              • Re: (Score:2)

                by dgatwood ( 11270 )

                I've only used Apple-brand cables or Monoprice cables, so that could definitely be part of it.

                Agree re: the picking gunk out of the socket with a pin. I've had to do that several times--pocket lint seems to build up until it reaches the point the lightning connector won't go in all the way. I'm not sure if that's unique to lightning or not, but it's absolutely an issue!

                I stuck with an 6s for years until I switched to an almost identical-to-the-6s SE. I like the touch ID and smaller size. I'm likewise waiting for a USB-C phone and it would be nice if it had some kind of touch ID as well.

                Definitely. Face ID means you're waiting for the phone to authenticate you while looking at the device, whereas with Touch ID, you can start doing the authentication with your thumb on the button as you pick up the device and complete it before you look down.

        • Throughput: Lightning has only a single lane versus USB-C's two lanes.

          I'm going to nitpick here, Lightning has two data lanes. If one were to count the ID/config pins as a data lane then Lightning as three data lanes.

          USB-C has six data lanes, seven if the ID/config pins are counted. There's four "super speed" lanes, the USB 2.0 lane, a "sideband use" lane, and then the ID/config lane that may or may not count as a lane since it doesn't normally carry any information between connected devices. USB 3.0 and 3.1 uses three data lanes, the USB 2.0 lane for backward compatibilit

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

          Another reliability issue is that Lightning transfers all the force onto the contacts.

          USB-C has an outer metal shell on the cable, that mates with a metal shell on the socket. That guides the contacts in and makes sure any force applied to the cable is transferred into the metal housing of the socket. The plug on the cable is also designed to break off before the socket does, as the cable is much cheaper to replace.

          With lightning the force is applied directly onto the contacts in the socket, and if the plug

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by Rhipf ( 525263 )

        USB3 isn't a port standard it is a data connection standard.

  • If you reflect: the new Virtual Island

    is really the Old Home Button - except now with Fingerprints!

    Progress/not progress.

  • Unless I missed it, there was no mention of cost for the satellite service. I have a subscription to Findme Spot and I had my fingers crossed that Apple would do this after the rumors came out for the 13. I have a X which is fine by me but the satellite thing may or may not be a good fit for me depending on the cost. The SPOT takes forever to send a message and they said the iPhone will do it in less than a minute but you have to point it toward the satellite. That could be difficult if you are in great
    • Apparently free for the first 2 years

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by dgatwood ( 11270 )

      Unless I missed it, there was no mention of cost for the satellite service. I have a subscription to Findme Spot and I had my fingers crossed that Apple would do this after the rumors came out for the 13. I have a X which is fine by me but the satellite thing may or may not be a good fit for me depending on the cost. The SPOT takes forever to send a message and they said the iPhone will do it in less than a minute but you have to point it toward the satellite. That could be difficult if you are in great pain or just barely conscious enough to press a button. Being 65 now, both my family and I feel better with me hiking and camping alone and having a satellite connection, so this announcement may be a good thing for this Apple customer.

      FYI, if you wait a year or two, if you're a T-Mobile/Sprint customer, you'll likely get this functionality from SpaceX without needing to upgrade your phone.

  • I finally jumped on the iOS bandwagon because Apple released the iPhone 13 Mini. Now it's back to all-phablets, all the time?

    • "Buy a Sony Compact" was the easy answer to this.

      Until Sony's "Compacts" became 6" phablets.

      MAKE COMPACT PHONES YOU BASTARDS !

  • In general new phones donâ(TM)t excite me much, yet there are 2 interesting elements in the iPhone Pro:
    The animated island notch is a well designed alert feature. They really thought about this one.
    Especially the main camera in the 14 Pro looks interesting. It is not the first phone with a 48MP sensor, but rather because of all the computational tricks they do to get the best out of it. Curious to see real life samples. Also interesting that it can use the whole of the sensor area while filming, work

  • So sick of these advertisements for rotten fruit. Has /. been bought out by Apple? Proprietary bullshit is not what open source is about.

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