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Apple Loses Lead Apple Silicon Designer Jeff Wilcox To Intel (appleinsider.com) 38

Apple Silicon leader and T2 security processor developer Jeff Wilcox has left Apple to rejoin Intel and oversee architecture for all Intel System-on-a-Chip (SoC) designs. AppleInsider reports: As Apple heads to the end of its self-imposed two-year transition from Intel to its own Apple Silicon, the company has lost the leader of its M1 development team. Jeff Wilcox originally joined Apple from Intel in 2013, and is now returning to that company as it works on introducing new processors. "After an amazing eight years I have decided to leave Apple and pursue another opportunity," wrote Wilcox on his LinkedIn page. "It has been an incredible ride and I could not be prouder of all we accomplished during my time there, culminating in the Apple Silicon transition with the M1, M1 Pro and M1 Max SOCs and systems. I will dearly miss all of my Apple colleagues and friends."

"I'm pleased to share that I have started a new position as Intel Fellow, Design Engineering Group CTO, Client SoC Architecture at Intel Corporation," he continued. "I could not be more thrilled to be back working with the amazing teams there to help create groundbreaking SOCs. Great things are ahead!" Wilcox returned to Intel at the start of January 2022. It's not yet known who Apple intends to replace him with as Director, Mac System Architecture. Nor is it known whether Apple tried to keep Wilcox.
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Apple Loses Lead Apple Silicon Designer Jeff Wilcox To Intel

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  • How much does a "Lead Silicon Designer" get paid? I presume it must be well up there in the millions per year
    • Re:Interesting (Score:5, Interesting)

      by timeOday ( 582209 ) on Thursday January 06, 2022 @06:14PM (#62150343)
      The "CTO" title is the one that jumps out as lucrative to me. I suppose at that level it's very individualized (i.e. no way to know), but poaching a key individual from Apple sure sounds expensive. But, maybe the world would be a better place if it were people like that on trading cards and in fantasy leagues.
    • How much does a "Lead Silicon Designer" get paid?

      Not sure if is salary is massively high, probably the lure would have been more a giant bonus and a huge dump of stock options.

      • by mbkennel ( 97636 ) on Thursday January 06, 2022 @07:28PM (#62150521)

        The options may be what he's looking at.

        I noticed he left at about the time that Intel seriously started losing its technical capabilities and management then didn't seem to care. Now there is a new CEO (also a rebound who left and returned) and a board which is finally willing to invest in the future.

        Apple is already valued very highly and there will be no step-change increase in stock price. But with Intel, there is a possibility that if the new direction is successful there would be a re-valuation upwards as they show success.

        • by logicnazi ( 169418 ) <gerdes&invariant,org> on Thursday January 06, 2022 @10:03PM (#62150915) Homepage

          Maybe, but I think most people at this level of compensation are as much or more influenced by non-financial aspects of their job.

          Wouldn't surprise me at all if the big draw is that at Intel he's going to get to explore ideas and influence deep architectural choices that he wouldn't at apple because they settled those choices over the past 8 years.

          I mean what's more fun: designing a new programming language or acting as a gatekeeper during it's slow evolution once it's a widely used stable project?

          • Maybe, but I think most people at this level of compensation are as much or more influenced by non-financial aspects of their job.

            I think you are totally right, that is the main reason someone that high up would leave Apple, for an opportunity to really make a difference at some other company and at Intel right now that is very possible....

            Then combine that with options, and he probably feels like he could help steer Intel to a much better position which would also make his options a lot more valuable, so a

    • by Anonymous Coward

      How much does a "Lead Silicon Designer" get paid? I presume it must be well up there in the millions per year

      There is the base salary (typically in the mid to high 6 figures), and then there are the stock options and bonuses where the real money is (as the bonus targets, just accidentally, seem to always be met, even on the bad years, as the targets get adjusted, and the stock options will be repriced if the stock does not perform well).

      I think one can safely say that Mr. Wilcox has been extremely well compensated at Apple, and will continue to be extremely well compensated at Intel.

    • I dunno dude, but to entice a switch from Apple to Intel it has got to be a dumptruck of cash.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        Or maybe working on Intel's chips, it's high end i9 being almost 2.5x as fast as Apple's best M1 is just a lot more interesting? -

        https://openbenchmarking.org/v... [openbenchmarking.org]

        Contrary to all the hype, M1s are at best equivalent to low-end i7s in terms of performance by all objective benchmarks. Even a mid-range i7 is twice as fast as the M1:

        https://openbenchmarking.org/v... [openbenchmarking.org]

        People who harp on about the M1s performance and claim it "blows Intel and AMD out the water" and other such nonsense fundamentally misunderstand th

  • by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) on Thursday January 06, 2022 @06:09PM (#62150335)

    As much as I really admire the M1 chips, what I really like more is a healthy processor ecosystem with some good completion... hopefully this guy can help get Intel in better shape compared to Apple and AMD.

    I'm sure Apple will sell be enjoying the benefits of this guys work for several years to come as he would have worked on stuff not even shipping yet.

    • by egr ( 932620 )
      Really? Intel still has 80%+ market share on laptop CPUs and 98%+ market share on server CPUs, that's like saying Microsoft needs to get in a better shape for desktop OS for healthier competition . What we actually need is more alternatives to likes of Intel. M1 is good, but that's still a drop in an ocean.
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by dfghjk ( 711126 )

      "...what I really like more is a healthy processor ecosystem with some good completion..."

      No you don't, nor would you recognize good competition if it were staring you in the face. You don't give a shit about processor "ecosystems" or even know what that means, you only care about promoting your side. All that matters to you is to associate yourself with a winner. Let's be clear, once Apple Silicon was announced it has been your mission, among many partisan missions, to shit on Intel. Your fake magnanim

  • by ffkom ( 3519199 ) on Thursday January 06, 2022 @06:48PM (#62150409)
    ... seems to have become the only way for talented people to stay tasked with interesting projects, rather than wasting their time on boring maintenance and red tape. Would be interesting to know how much more efficient it would be if large companies had a way of letting people innovate without leaving their job, but I guess we will never know, because companies are not inclined to try that, these days.
    • Changing jobs (or threatening to change jobs) is the only way to get a decent raise.

      • Well, there's always sleeping with the boss....

        • by Anonymous Coward

          Personally, I prefer to have sex with them, but each to their own.

      • by jbengt ( 874751 )

        Changing jobs (or threatening to change jobs) is the only way to get a decent raise.

        I don't know.
        First time I changed jobs, I got a decent raise in pay and benefits, and continuing raises after that.
        But last time I changed jobs, I got a drop in pay. (I got let go in 2009, after the company had already let go of about half the staff. So no big surprise - the new job was still way better than unemployment, even if it was 10% to 15% fewer hours and a little lower pay.)

    • After eight years? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by chispito ( 1870390 ) on Thursday January 06, 2022 @07:49PM (#62150607)
      Is staying for eight years 'jumping between jobs quickly?' Seems like he got the product launched, collected whatever bonuses he was due, and is back his old haunt.
  • ...one that isn't 16 months old.

  • by logicnazi ( 169418 ) <gerdes&invariant,org> on Thursday January 06, 2022 @09:55PM (#62150905) Homepage

    Good, I'm happy to see Intel working on systems on a chip (these are likely going to be the future for consumer systems) and we all benefit from more competition in this space. And likely none of this would have been possible if Apple (or Intel before them) could have enforced a contractual rule against leaving to work for a competitor. Evidently, the lack of such a contractual rule didn't dis-incentivize innovation here and it is helping to spread expertise in ways that benefit us consumers.

    • by ShanghaiBill ( 739463 ) on Thursday January 06, 2022 @10:46PM (#62150983)

      Evidently, the lack of such a contractual rule didn't dis-incentivize innovation

      The evidence says the opposite. Jurisdictions where non-competes are unenforceable have more innovation and higher salaries.

      This is one thing that California did correctly. Other states would be wise to do the same.

      • by dfghjk ( 711126 )

        "Jurisdictions where non-competes are unenforceable have more innovation and higher salaries."

        Citation please.

        "This is one thing that California did correctly. Other states would be wise to do the same."

        Yes, because it is the right thing to do, not because of some made up bullshit that is your trademark.

        • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

          It's a non-compete, not a non-poach.

          Non-competes in a lot of jurisdictions aren't necessarily enforceable - it's one of those "it really depends" things.

          A few places demand that if you do a non-compete, it must be in a very particular geographical region for a well defined non-excessive length of time. And they really mean "particular". If it's in a city, the region might be restricted to a few blocks of the office - seeing as making you travel outside can be considered unreasonable. And time must be define

      • Yes, that's what I said. Please reread my comment again. I'm pointing out that if CA had non-complete agreements then this employee likely couldn't have switched back and forth and if he hadn't there would have been less innovation.

      • I realize I used a lot of negatives but let's analyze the sentence.

        The lack of such a contractual rule = the fact CA doesn't enforce non-compete agreements.

        didn't dis-incentivize innovation = we didn't get less innovation because CA doesn't enforce non-compete agreements.

    • by dfghjk ( 711126 )

      "Evidently, the lack of such a contractual rule didn't dis-incentivize innovation here ..."

      How does news of one extremely highly-paid person changing from one filthy rich employer to another say anything about innovation?

      "...is helping to spread expertise in ways that benefit us consumers."

      Developing expertise benefits "us consumers", not pushing it around. This isn't about "spreading expertise" either, it's about one person getting even more money.

  • The highest performing companies do not build prima-donnas but one where no one person is 'irreplaceable', and they have a successor ready to jump in. Just as mentoring and knowledge transfer is key. Intel, OTOH, were happy to cede market share, until they felt a slap - just like Motorola and PowerPC's. Then saw Nvida and AMD fill stale and lagging improvements. The move covers W for weaknesses, and the perception thereof. BTW China saw this, and will also be working on an M alternative.
  • by dhaen ( 892570 )
    Maybe Intel have hired him to put him out to graze. That way he won't do any further damage to their x86 business.
  • by sonoronos ( 610381 ) on Friday January 07, 2022 @06:10AM (#62151481)

    The man is essentially retiring at Intel. I have no idea why people think any kind of innovation is going to happen at Intel now that some big name guy is sunsetting his career there.

    Nobody with the title of âoefellowâ innovates. They arenâ(TM)t even given management or hiring authority.

  • I don't think anyone wanting to leave Apple for Intel, would be a lose for Apple, I am sure they can be quickly replaced and it will ultimately be to Apples advantage.

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