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iCloud Outage Now Affecting 14 Different Apple Services (cnet.com) 36

Apple's "System Status" page indicates 14 current issues, some of which began nearly five hours ago.

CNET reports the services affected "include Find My, iCloud Account & Sign In, iCloud Backup, iCloud Bookmarks & Tabs, iCloud Calendar, iCloud Contacts, iCloud Drive, iCloud Keychain, iCloud Mail, iCloud Storage Upgrades, Photos and Screen Time."

Engadget writes "the timing is less than ideal, even if this is likely to be a small interruption in the grander scheme of things." The issue comes weeks after an outage that affected both iCloud and Apple's media services. It also follows mere days after the debut of Apple One, where iCloud storage (also affected by the outage) plays an important role.
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iCloud Outage Now Affecting 14 Different Apple Services

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  • by Rosco P. Coltrane ( 209368 ) on Sunday November 01, 2020 @02:00PM (#60672406)

    Works most of the time. But when it doesn't, boy is it glorious or what! A rolling advertisement for a standalone network that you have complete control over.

    • Re: (Score:1, Troll)

      by blahbooboo ( 839709 )

      Works most of the time. But when it doesn't, boy is it glorious or what! A rolling advertisement for a standalone network that you have complete control over.

      Absolutely because your own standalone network that you have complete control over never goes down... oh wait.

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        Your own network does go down. But then you have a chance to do something about it, and recover your data from your backup, instead of praying that the cloud provider's engineers are doing something about it, and that they haven't haemorraged all your data or credentials to Russia or China. Or - more prosaically - that they haven't "outsourced" their cloudiness operations to some third world countries that they, in turned, are exploiting for all it's worth.

        Can you really not see how nobody should want anyth

        • Your own network does go down. But then you have a chance to do something about it, and recover your data from your backup,

          This reminds me of that perennial argument against ebooks, from people who prefer the feeling of the pages in the leather-bound editions that they never actually buy, read by the roaring fireplace they don't actually have.

          When your private network goes down, it's always on the sixth day after your weekly backup, and, oops, the toilet backed up last week and the weekly backup didn't actually get made that one time.

          • Most people who read like real books because most e-readers make it painful to skim back to parts that need to be reviewed. At least all the ereaders we have had don't allow you to skip many pages easily.
            • Eh?

              I find it very convenient to do a backward search for a character's name if I wish to review what that character did in his previous appearance. Much faster than "flip flip flip flip I know I saw that name before flip flip flip".

              • But you can't look for a "characters name" because that may appear 1000 times in a book. You have to look for something that happened in the book, like the point where Harry opened the Chamber of Secrets. That takes more skimming.
    • I assume you produce your own electric, have a well and a septic tank?
      • As a matter of fact, yes. I also fabricate my own rifles and reload my own ammunition, and grow a lot of my own food. When the shit hits the fan and hipsters in our urban centers have no food to eat, no water to drink, and no raving idea what to do about it, I'll be living like nothing happened.

        • No that's not quite true. You live like a very unlikely event will happen and that's a lot of effort, and if it does not much will change for you because you'll have been going to all that effort the entire time instead of just when it was actually useful.
    • A rolling advertisement for a standalone network that you have complete control over.

      You're implying that *you* are able to maintain better uptime than these cloud services. The reality is usually far from this ideal. The reason this stuff makes the news is precisely because it is so rare.

      The average user doesn't even know how to do a backup of their data let alone manage network uptime.

  • by rea1l1 ( 903073 ) on Sunday November 01, 2020 @02:02PM (#60672414) Journal

    I've been waiting for the day hackers get into the iCloud system, remotely lock everyone's devices, and scramble all iCloud account passwords.

    • That secure enclave can be a devil, can't it.

      Toss it on the pile over there with Altivec Unit, SCSI, etc.

      Things must be really spinning about now in that big glass "Heavens Gate" headquarters building.

    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward

      I've been waiting for the day hackers get into the iCloud system, remotely lock everyone's devices, and scramble all iCloud account passwords.

      It would be a PR disaster of course, but no worse than if the same happened at Google or Microsoft.
      The only key difference is Apple's security division is a smidge smaller than Microsofts, which are both a smidge smaller than Google.

      As far as the technical issues around such a thing, it would be a temporary situation, so at least that's good.
      It would likely only be a similar duration to any other outage too, although the claim iCloud has been down for 5 hours isn't all that good (It's showing up currently,

    • by martynhare ( 7125343 ) on Sunday November 01, 2020 @03:18PM (#60672684)
      This does nothing to people who have generated their bypass code and stored it in a safe place. There's an optional escrow option in place for bypassing the system and detaching it from Activation Lock and iCloud entirely. If Apple hadn't implemented this, their devices would never have been deemed safe or acceptable for corporate use.

      The question of how many people have bothered to do this remains.
  • Such a testimony to product quality.
    Right on the eve of a national election?
    Way too convenient..

  • I don't know what people are talking about. My Mac mini is working perfe{#`%${%&`+'${`%&NO CARRIER

  • by xlsior ( 524145 ) on Sunday November 01, 2020 @02:27PM (#60672504)
    "In the cloud" is just PR speak for "On someone else's computer"
    • "In the cloud" is just PR speak for "On someone else's computer"

      Almost -- it's worse than that. "In the cloud" is just PR speak for "Someone else's RESPONSIBILITY." It's not MY fault if my dog ate the cloud. It's not MY fault if the cloud-outage workaround documents are .. on the cloud.

      It's not MY fault if things go wrong. it's just not.

    • "In the cloud" is just PR speak for "On someone else's computer"

      Yep PR for "someone else's *much better* computer", and managed by someone who is *much better* at it than you.

      There are very few companies in the world that adequately dedicate the effort, knowledge and resources to achieving service uptime better than those offered by large cloud providers. And that's just companies. Honestly I wouldn't trust most users with their own computer. "Backup? Is that when you put your car in reverse?"

    • The cloud is all fine and dandy, until your stuff living there goes 'puff'... like a little cloud of smoke.
  • for an 18TB 7200 RPM external drive for about $180 US.

    You could probably buy a cheap device for under $50 and have a mesh of remote backups setup.

    Still won't help you when you lose your iDevice though...

    • The money is irrelevant. Your solution will break down because it relies on people to manage that mesh of remote backups. The best backup is only as good as how well and recently it was made.

  • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

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  • Apple, Google, and their moneymakers made web design so stupid over the past 20 years by shoving everyone into a poke-and-live experience, to the point I don't even want to sit through reading and posting to a Slashdot thread anymore. Does anyone know if the D1 discussion system in Slashdot options is/was any better? I don't want to roll the dice to find out. (This website might as well be down to me.)
  • by Tough Love ( 215404 ) on Sunday November 01, 2020 @05:40PM (#60673038)

    Flipped from I-cloud to O-cloud.

  • by Wookie Monster ( 605020 ) on Sunday November 01, 2020 @06:44PM (#60673192)
    I wonder if the daylight saving time switch is to blame. It's not the first time something like this has affected a cloud service.
  • The status page shows everything is operational, and 14 issues resolved today.
  • Tucker Carlson claims that only he and his producer knew about the Bobalinski documents that were stolen in the UPS system. Apparently they used iMessage.

    Could Apple have discovered an APT that intercepted messages? Apple uses key escrow so there is an avenue for intercept.

    NSA implant?

  • Everything back up now. But I don't put anything sensitive or vital on any cloud service. Smart enough to not get screwed when if goes down.

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