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Apple Will Make It Easier To Unlock Your iPhone While Wearing a Face Mask (techcrunch.com) 65

Face ID was a great idea -- until large swathes of the world were forced to wear face masks, rendering it largely useless. Apple has apparently heard our pain. From a report: Users are reporting a subtle new feature in the latest developer version of iOS 13.5 that will make it easier to unlock your iPhone without having to take off your protective face mask. Videos shared on Twitter by Robert Petersen and Guilherme Rambo show that Apple devices with Face ID will jump to the backup passcode-entry screen if it detects a mask. That's not only helpful if you're unlocking your phone dozens of times a day -- which we all do -- but it's also helping to keep people safe by not forcing users to take off their masks and potentially exposing themselves to the virus.
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Apple Will Make It Easier To Unlock Your iPhone While Wearing a Face Mask

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  • by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) on Wednesday April 29, 2020 @03:46PM (#60005268)

    I was just trying to train my iPhone for an alternate appearance, wearing a face mask - sadly as soon as I tried it said "Mask detected" and would not let me train.

    I would be fine with a somewhat reduced level of security (queue the Ben Franklin quote) that just relied on the upper half of my face to unlock, rather than just activating the passcode sooner...

    • Can't you just use a pattern or pin code instead?

      • by UnresolvedExternal ( 665288 ) on Wednesday April 29, 2020 @04:07PM (#60005368) Journal
        I agree 100%. Why compromise an already weak security feature to make it even weaker?

        Just use a pin and turn off facial recognition damnit, it wasn't even a thing you could have a few years ago.

        Let's keep our heads during a crisis please... everything we give away now will be harder to win back.

        • I agree 100%. Why compromise an already weak security feature to make it even weaker?

          In practice no-one is going to construct a rubber mask of my head that MAYBE could unlock the phone if they construct it just right.

          In practice in fact, either they could simply kidnap me more easily (which as a bonus gets the phone) OR record you entering your PIN from some overhead view. I don't understand why someone does not consider that unlikely as it would be VERY easy for someone recording a video of a person enter

          • In practice, all it takes is one hit to the face to deny you access to your phone.
          • So in summary, 100% of use of PIN is vastly weaker from a practical standpoint than true biometric unlock mechanisms.

            I agree here too - so just use fingerprint if your phone has it.

            The point for me is, we don't want to establish a new normal, should the world ever get back to the old normal.... We spent quite a while figuring out the old normal so let's not be reactionary.

          • Tell that to the son who unlocked his *mother*'s phone. With just his face.

            Biometric is retarded is retarded is biometrics. It has already been extensively explained to you, why. You should not need further arguments, as a small child could follow that. And you are insanely stupid if you still do not even get why. Plus, in that case: What are you doing on a geek site anyway?

            Please hand in your geek card.

            • Tell that to the son who unlocked his *mother*'s phone. With just his face.

              Strange enough, we heard these stories after FaceID was introduced and they have stopped since.

              One in a million people can unlock your phone with FaceID. However, if son tries to unlock the phone and fails, and then the passcode is entered, then the iPhone is tricked into thinking son was the legitimate owner (because he had the passcode), and gets trained to that face. So yes, with a bit of preparation and cooperation, you likely can make your son unlock your phone. But only with your cooperation.

      • Can't you just use a pattern or pin code instead?

        Using FaceID means you also have a PIN set, but FaceID is much more convenient so I'd rather use that if possible.

        If FaceID doesn't recognize a face it just prompts to enter the PIN.

      • Zorro, the Lone Ranger, Green Arrow, Batman... Apple willingly chooses to openly discriminate against heroes.

        Let people train their FaceID with a mask on, Mr. Cook!

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      The passcode doesn't work with disposable gloves. You can pay just by unlocking the phone so it would be good if it worked with masks.

      • Seriously?? Any touchscreen I ever used, worked with disposable gloves. But I guess I'm not courageous enoigh!

        • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

          Capacitative ones don't work with rubber/plastic gloves. Anything non-conductive won't work.

          Resistive screens work fine with almost anything but are less sensitive and accurate. They are often used for things like in-car screens or industrial systems.

          • by torkus ( 1133985 )

            Based on my anecdotal, but long-standing and repeatable evidence you're very much wrong. Heck, I just got a Costco Size Large Nitrile exam glove' from my CV19 stash and unlocked my iPhone right now.

            The gloves need to be relatively thin - winter gloves without a touch surface won't work - but normal disposable latex, nitrile, or poly gloves work just fine.

      • The passcode doesn't work with disposable gloves. You can pay just by unlocking the phone so it would be good if it worked with masks.

        There's nothing special about the passcode, it's just your fingers on the screen. If you do something to your fingers so that unlocking with passcode doesn't work, then nothing works and the phone is unusable. That happens when you wash your hands and don't dry them, an iPhone doesn't like wet fingers.

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  • I definitely welcome the phone jumping to the passcode prompt sooner, as I've encountered this issue plenty. But let's be clear, nobody is being forced to take off their mask. The passcode prompt already pops up after a couple failed FaceID attempts. Users could also temporarily turn off FaceID. I'm not saying that is desired; let's just not exaggerate things.
    • The passcode prompt already pops up after a couple failed FaceID attempts

      Also if you swipe up it will go into the passcode screen pretty much right away. So I've never really found it hampered me that much as it is.

    • i don't get why it cant just show the damn pin keypad at the same time as actively scanning for a face. this pisses me off every morning even without a mask when my head is still half buried in the pillow.
      • by jimbo ( 1370 )

        I agree but in any case if you tap on the words "Face ID" in the middle of the screen it immediately bypasses the scan and take you to the passcode/pin screen. So there's no wait, just an extra tap.

  • Texas has 28,000,000 population and under 1,000 Corona deaths. And until recently very very few people wearing mask.
  • by Arzaboa ( 2804779 ) on Wednesday April 29, 2020 @04:08PM (#60005376)

    This article casually talks about masks preventing you from getting sick. The masks that 99% of the population are wearing, like bandanas and spit masks, are to keep you from spreading the disease if you are infected with it. These masks will not prevent you from getting sick. To isolate ones airflow you need a respirator which is sealed properly.

    This kind of casual misinformation has helped fuel the nonsense we are seeing around us.

    --
    CDC also advises the use of simple cloth face coverings to slow the spread of the virus and help people who may have the virus and do not know it from transmitting it to others. Cloth face coverings fashioned from household items or made at home from common materials at low cost can be used as an additional, voluntary public health measure. -- CDC website [cdc.gov]

  • Touch ID for everyone!

    p.s.: I don't get why everyone is obsessed with things like FaceID.

    • Didn't they get rid of TouchID a few years ago? Probably because noone wanted the FaceID gimmit or would have used it if it wasn't their only biometric option.
      • The just-released iPhone SE2 only has TouchID. No stupid notch, no FaceID.

        Maybe the next no-FaceID iPhone, if any, could have TouchID integrated in a side button or under the screen.

        • No Notch maybe...but those bezels it's like 2016 all over again liberally.

          • And why is that "bad"?

        • Definition of iPhone SE: "The last one of the old model, one more upgrade to the latest technology, and after this that model is dead". There won't be another iPhone with TouchID after this one.
          • What if Apple goes with under-the-display touchID? Or side button touchID?

            You should have said "there won't be another iPhone with a home button after this one".

    • "Touch ID for everyone!"

      Which doesn't work if you are wearing latex or nitrile gloves.

      • Which doesn't work if you are wearing latex or nitrile gloves.

        Pre-COVID-19, I would have said "this sounds like a category on pornHub".

      • You shouldn't be touching your phone while wearing your gloves, due to cross contamination.
  • My thumb still works.

  • and will they add the jump to FBI login if it see govment QR code?

  • Nobody seems to be mentioning how unhygienic Apple pay is. Putting other people's germs on your face ewww.

  • The problem is eliminated if you don't lock your phone. I don't understand why people would use their phone to access anything that needs to be secured.

    • Given an actually properly designed pocket computer, please do elaborate regarding the justification for your smug and presumably knee-jerk ignorant statement there.

  • That's preposterous!

    It's biometrics! Nothing more should have to be said!
    It works jankily, at best!
    I mean how much more than "Son unlocked phone of mother by holding it in front of bis face" do you need?

    Are you on drugs?

  • helping to keep people safe by not forcing users to take off their masks and potentially exposing themselves to an Iphone.
  • They figured out that the biometric crap doesn't work and switch back to pincodes?

  • What happens in iOS 13.4 if you wear a mask. You try to unlock the phone with FaceID. The phone takes a second or two to decide it's not you because of the mask, and shows a passcode screen.

    What happens in iOS 13.5 if you wear a mask: You try to unlock the phone with FaceID. The phone recognises immediately that you are wearing a mask, and shows the pasccode screen immediately.
  • Good idea ... IF you're going to have (and presumably use and enjoy) facial recognition as a form of personal identification and security.

    I smile as I watch my grandson having to remove gloves to use his phone's fingerprint ID. That may be more secure than a PIN or passcode, but I'd hardly consider it worth the time, energy, technology necessary to make it work.

    I don't own any sort of smart or advanced cellphone (gasp!), so what do I know?

  • basically apple is trying to produce more and more related applications [optimizegame.com] to help people choosing best things and people are looking for the safety of them and their dogs [provenplanet.com] but in the same time they are also increasing their customer and usage as the study says here [reviewzhub.com]

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