Apple Finally Kills iTunes (thenextweb.com) 93
An anonymous reader shares a report: After long anticipation, Apple finally announced today that it's killing iTunes at its developer conference WWDC held in San Jose. Instead, it will be replaced by three new apps: Music, TV, and the Podcasts app. You can sync your iPhone directly through the finder app.
Anyone have actual details? (Score:2)
The summary here basically includes the entirety of the linked "story" - no real reason to click through.
What I want to know is... what about the server-like aspects of iTunes? Are they just ceding that space to Plex and Kodi?
Re:Anyone have actual details? (Score:5, Insightful)
Also, those who have a Windows PC. Will there be Windows versions of the apps? And does "Finder" also mean sync via Windows Explorer?
Where do audiobooks fit in this? Are they music or podcasts?
Re:Anyone have actual details? (Score:5, Insightful)
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If you can't access your phone or tablet as generic mass storage, then your phone or tablet is a piece of non-standard shit.
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As Zumbs notes, iTunes lets you manage your iPhone, even on Windows. I assume the changes to iTunes will spill over to my phone, and I'm curious how I'll be subscribing or uploading the audio files that I listen to, which include audiobooks, podcasts, music, and lectures in MP3 format.
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Well if they gave you a Windows tool how in the world are they going to convince you that you need to buy that $5000 Apple pro along with that $5000 monitor with the option of a $1000 stand. Get with the program!
Cook: How are you gentlemen!!
Cook: All your cash are belong to us.
Cook: You are on your way to broke.
Cook: You have no chance to survive make your time. Ha ha ha
Re:Anyone have actual details? (Score:5, Interesting)
I know. The Finder App? On my Windows PC?
Does that mean I'll now be able to drag/drop MP3 and playlists just like any other MP3 player?
I have noticed that Apple is moving away from "own your music" folks. I have a library of mostly CDs that I've ripped and a few songs I've purchased from Apple (one-hit wonders). However, when I login to Apple Music Service from supported devices (like Sonos) it shows that I must sign up for a paid subscription. It won't even list the songs I've previously purchased (I understand they won't stream my CDs -- duh).
Now I won't even have an integrated CD ripper / iPhone sync tool. Roll your own dude.
I understand technology is shifting to streaming services. But that also appears to be the ONLY way you'll be able to access music. A sort of DRM. It would be nice if I could rip to the cloud and sync/stream to my phone. Amazon sort of does this - if you buy a CD from them the Amazon Music app places an MP3 version of the album right into the iOS music library (automatically). It's one of the reasons I buy from them - easy peezy. Even the Disney Bluray app does this -- buy a CD, type in a code, and it pops up in Amazon/AppleTV. I still own the disk even if the streaming service changes TOS.
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If you can still download the m4a files, you still can copy of the files. I do that with everything I've ever bought from iTunes or Google Play.
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That'd be nice, but it's not like Apple advertises this fact. And once you've spent $700+ on an iPhone you're not likely to throw it away and get an Android just so you can avoid iTunes.
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Can't talk to the rest, but iTunes was always a shit ripper, just get EAC and compress to whatever you like.
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I have noticed that Apple is moving away from "own your music" folks.
You've only just noticed that?
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Spell Check! (Score:4, Informative)
> An anonymous reader shares a report:
>> After long anticipation, Apple finally announced today that it's killing iTunes at its developer conference WWDC held in San Hose. Instead, it will be replaced by three new apps: Music, TV, and the Podcasts app. You can sync your iPhone directly through the finder app.
San Hose?? Really?
[John]
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It's French, for "without hose"
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San Hose?? Really?
That can't be right, let me check the story. Hmm, I guess San Hose it is.
Will the one after that be at San Faucet?
Re:Spell Check! (Score:4, Funny)
San Hose?? Really?
[John]
It's a mixture of French and German.
"Sans" (French) = without
"Hose" (German) = pants
So Tim Cook wanted to spice up the WWDC with a bit of iKink, and required participants not to wear any pants.
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It's a mixture of French and German.
Isnt that called Flemish?
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Yeah, they misspelled San Hosé.
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[Hohn]
FTFY...
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> An anonymous reader shares a report:
>> After long anticipation, Apple finally announced today that it's killing iTunes at its developer conference WWDC held in San Hose. Instead, it will be replaced by three new apps: Music, TV, and the Podcasts app. You can sync your iPhone directly through the finder app.
San Hose?? Really?
[John]
I think you mean
[Hohn]
source (Score:1)
this is the source you use? One that spells the name of the third largest city in California, San Hose?
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There were three sentences in the summary, not just the one you read.
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Yeah, but they had some content that was removed before they added the DRM-free option. If you purchased any of this content, you couldn't upgrade to DRM-free later. I've got a couple of these, for example Human on the Inside by the Divinyls. You can still re-download a DRM-encumbered M4P file if you purchased it before it was removed, but you can't purchase it any more, and you were never able to upgrade to a DRM-free version.
Re: Does that mean the people with $20k in music (Score:2)
What if you use Windows or Android regularly? Then, it would seem, you're fucked. Nothing in the summary addresses this.
Device management? (Score:2)
I'm curious what they'll do with the device management features of iTunes — specifically the ability to back up your device locally. That's basically the only thing I've done with iTunes in the last five years.
older iPods? (Score:2)
What about managing older iPods, too - the ones before iOS? I still prefer my late-model clickwheel iPod to an iOS device for listening to music, but you need iTunes to manage it well (there are some free software hacks it's true, but iTunes is a lot easier).
iTunes backup isn't worth much these days - it doesn't back up application data so you end up with your contacts, OS settings and apps without data - including PDFs saved to iBooks and progress in any games.
Re: older iPods? (Score:3)
Nothing easier than Floola!
http://www.floola.com/home/ [floola.com]
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That's like me - although I usually end up cursing it when I interact with itunes, having that local backup is a great thing. I wish I could convince my family to just switch to Android, but they ignore me.
Re: Device management? (Score:1)
More Apps ? (Score:2)
Now, instead of one annoying ass program, we'll have three separate ones :|
Perfect.
Why can't Apple follow Androids lead on this ?
Computer -> Cable -> Phone . . . . . done.
Re: More Apps ? (Score:2)
Because following Android's lead would go to a standard micro/c plug :)
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And what of my beloved's iPods in the bathroom? (Score:3)
Do all of her old hardware get upgrades? She's got an old appleTv box too, and an old mac mini running itunes in the basement. I think she has about six devices that ultimately pull itunes content and show them on a screen somewhere. Not one of them is less than ten years old.
So will they still be able to play any of their existing content? New content? Do they get updates, somehow magically? Or do I get to throw them out and try, again, to convince a woman that the reason "apple products just work" is because they don't work for you. Her iPhoneX just ate 3GB of cellular data in two minutes when she plugged it into her one-year old macbook pro to charge, while her macbook decided to update macos, and decided to use the IPhone-over-USB connection, and hence the iPhone's data plan, instead of free wifi. Why didn't the laptop use the phone's wifi connection? because the phone's hotspot was turned on, though not in-use.
A nice $70 overage -- thankfully capped by local telecom laws, or it'd have been $1'000 ten minutes later.
Yeah, her macbook and her iphone did an excellent job of "just working" by ensuring that the internet was online, even if that meant spending an infinite amount of money.
Yeah, now I've set the service order. And yeah, next time, it'll happen when our home-wifi is offline, like during a power failure, and it'll "just work" again.
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First, using prepaid. I rarely have more than a gig on the account, which caps any losses to under $10.
Second, I have a data quota set on my phone.
Third, avoided marrying anyone with an iPhone. (i.e., anyone who wastes money).
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She's a lawyer. She won't listen to me unless I'm considered an expert witness by the court. And she's very non-technical, (she can't plug the tv's audio optical cable back into the amp when the housekeeper or the dog pulls it out, every week. It goes into the socket marked "tv", and it's the only optical port at all. It's every week. She won't configure quotas of any kind.
And that's why our country sets a limit on how much data overage an ISP can charge -- and limits it to $50 CDN.
I would have been en
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Hey! Do you see a ring on this finger! Not married.
Just living with her. And a dog. And a cat. And a house. And renovations. And vacations. And family stuffs. And joint taxes. And we pay for things together.
Ehem, but definitely not married!
Yeah, isn't it strange how every woman is exactly the same? If you've ever watched "According to Jim" -- old sitcom with Jim Belushi, there's an episode about women thinking differently than men. There's a part, in the garage, about learning to reset the gara
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Okay, not to pile onto her too much, she's a wonderful gal, but sometimes the stories just present themselves at the perfect moment.
We're both working from home today. She's downstairs, I'm upstairs. She called me, "is your internet down?" -- within three seconds ( ! ) of a momentary power failure. She's sitting right next to the cable bridge (a.k.a. modem). The house lights flickered, obviously. She's surprised that her wi-fi's down for a moment as half the street reboots.
"Yes dear, mine's down too.
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But what will happen to my free music? (Score:2)
What will happen to the free iTunes push of music we got from that Irish band we all hate?
How will I update my ipod shuffle? (Score:2)
Bye, SoundJam (Score:2)
I shall miss SoundJam. At least it was around for another 18 years.
Alternative programs (Score:2)
Used to love Floola when I had an iPod, drag and drop transfer of files. They were slow to support the newer touchscreen models, but made managing an Apple device so much easier.
Then I discovered the Sansa Clip that supports flac files and never looked back for my portable music