macOS 10.14.4 Mail Client Has Broken Gmail Access For Some Users (apple.com) 48
New submitter _observer writes: Hundreds of users are unable to read their Gmail in Apple's Mail client since the upgrade to macOS 10.14.4, with few workaround available. This is impacting business and personal users, although not all Gmail accounts are impacted. The web client and other clients like Outlook still work -- it is only Apple's Mail client that is not playing along. Users say they are caught in a login loop. It appears that the issue was even found and reported in the 10.14.4 Beta, but not addressed when the update was released. No word from Apple about this. While I am somewhat sympathetic to the software engineers having bugs in code (I am an engineer, too), but this seems to be a big QA miss. Gmail is the most popular free email service and this is blocking a large number of users. This thread on the Apple Support forum is growing rapidly (24 pages and counting)
Window's not done until Lotus won't run! (Score:5, Funny)
Reminds me of the old days where Microsoft Windows updates would regularly break Lotus spreadsheet.
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No that was "DOS ain't done till Lotus won't run." Not Windows.
By the time of Windows, Microsoft's dirty tactics had worked and Lotus was marginalized.
Re: Window's not done until Lotus won't run! (Score:2)
Yes, it was a long time ago. Good old DOS days.
After reboot and following prompts its fine now... (Score:2)
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That did not work for me (Score:2)
Yes, the system pref prompted me to re-enter my passwords as well. After entering, Mail.app still shows accounts as offline, and eventually I am re-prompted... after about eight tries I figured it was probably not going to work. Also tried a reboot (which 10.14.4 helpfully auot-provided for me in the middle of processing a password entry response), but still cannot access the affect gmail accounts... to receive new email or send anything out...
As I said in my other message, the workaround for me was to a
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My only gmail account is for stuff I don't much care about losing & I don't use Google's SAAS stuff so I never setup 2FA. Absolutely no issues after upgrading.
Apple is imploding (Score:1)
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What a non-interesting non-story (Score:1)
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The last few updates to the Gmail web client have been pretty brutal too. It now takes 5+ seconds for my browser to load it the first time. And it seems to be freezing more often than before. It annoyed me enough to try access
Not just some users, some accounts! (Score:2)
This hit me as well, I have around five gmail accounts that no longer work - the interesting thing is, if I delete and try to re-add them, it can't even get account details from Google to complete the add.
The really curious thing though, is that one lone gmail account is working just fine! What the heck.
Because two email accounts still worked (iCloud still works of course, as does this other gmail account) I didn't really notice until this morning there was an issue... including one outbound email that ne
Apple thread (Score:2)
From past experience, expect that thread to disappear/get locked soon....
Defective by design? (Score:2)
My question: Iis this a case of defective by design or a case of a bug affecting a competitor so they didn't give a damn to fix it since they were alerted during the beta? (Disclosure: I used to work for Apple.)
If it were by design, would at least be consistent (Score:2)
If you wanted to mess with gmail logins, there are lots of ways to do it that would break it - but it would break for all gmail accounts, not just some...
This is a case of a super-bad bug slipping past QA and the people that manage releases somehow (since they knew about this bug in the beta version). I don't see how they could ship a final release with this issue known about...
The real reason I don't think this is done by design, is that this bug does way more harm to Apple's relatively clean reputation o
Allow insecure apps... (Score:3, Informative)
Allow insecure apps, then use standard IMAP with either SSL or TLS authentication, not OAuth...
https://support.google.com/acc... [google.com]
It's as secure as anything else if you use a strong password and aren't an idiot about entering it on phishing sites.
Metal graphics too (Score:2)
Incredibly simple solution (Score:2)
I had this, and turns out there's an incredibly simple solution: generate an app password on https://myaccount.google.com/ [google.com] (under security). Then in macOS, delete the account in System Preferences and recreate it as a regular IMAP account.
I'm not sure it works for the calendar and contacts stuff, but it sure works for mail.
Re:Incredibly simple solution (Score:5, Insightful)
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Gmail is broken by design (Score:2)
I don't know the details of this issue, but it is common knowledge that Gmail doesn't follow the standards for IMAP and similar protocols. Many makers of IMAP software have to scramble to get Gmail working in their mail clients. Apparently it is defective by design.
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Mail client has an issue with Outlook too (Score:2)
Dragged and dropped some emails to a folder. They disappeared. Not in the trash. Not in the destination folder or original folder. No help from Apple. Microsoft was no help either.