Apple To Build $1B Austin Campus, Add Thousands of Jobs in US Expansion (cnet.com) 189
Apple said Thursday it plans to invest $1 billion building a new corporate campus in Austin, Texas, that could eventually create 15,000 jobs. From a report: The iPhone maker will also set up new offices in Seattle, San Diego and Culver City, Los Angeles County, as well as expanding operations in Pittsburgh, New York and Boulder, Colorado, according to the press release.
The Austin campus will be located less than a mile away from Apple's existing facilities in the Texas city, which already employ 6,200 people (its largest group of employees outside Cupertino). The new area will initially hold 5,000 employees, with capacity to grow to 15,000 over time.
The Austin campus will be located less than a mile away from Apple's existing facilities in the Texas city, which already employ 6,200 people (its largest group of employees outside Cupertino). The new area will initially hold 5,000 employees, with capacity to grow to 15,000 over time.
Maybe 25% of that filled by Texans (Score:3)
The rest will be imports from Cali and overseas. The 25% would be support and/or maintenance crews, and MAYBE a smattering of B- and C- level execs to keep the masses happy.
Apple's after the lower wage and tax brackets, so it makes sense they would make this kind of move.
Re: Maybe 25% of that filled by Texans (Score:1)
Apple does not have ulterior motives. They are all about UX and they go to cities that support their mission. It is that simple. When the town council tries to make back room deals they go elsewhere. Austin is well aware of what apple would do for the city. And they made it simple for apple
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They still watch out for their bottom line and stock value. So, if they can save megabucks with a move towards a state that has a lower tax bracket, then they'll jump. Texas is that magnet state right now, and looking at the mass exodus from Cali to Texas, I'd say yes, they are.
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Given Apple's continued work in chip design, along with the existing pool of chip design talent in Texas ... I'd have guessed more than 25% would be locals (if not born in Austin, already present, educated, and employed ;>). Sounds like a good move for Apple, and good for Texas as well.
Poaching Dell Employees? (Score:5, Interesting)
This is close to Dell's headquarters, so this is a great chance for Apple to poach Dell's best employees. As a Dell employee myself (not in Texas), this can be good, as Dell may be pushed to increase pay and benefits.
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Austin is already home to over 6k Apple employees; second largest Apple footprint outside their HQ in Cupertino.
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Wrong in all respects (Score:2)
Apple sells designer hardware that's WAY over priced.
No, just generally built with better components and engineering.
Yes they sometimes charge more to upgrade some aspects like RAM, but for the hardware you are getting what you pay for.
Dell sells servers - Apple does not.
Apple sells the Mac mini [macminicolo.net], so you are wrong.
Dell sells Windows PCs - Apple does not.
Apple explicitly supports Windows [apple.com] on any Apple desktop hardware, so you are wrong.
Dell is diversified for the corporate enterprise market as an IT solution p
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Adding one more wrong thing? (Score:2)
The Mac Pro will be modular, but if you want to replace a module yourself, you'll have to go to an Apple store and beg the "genii" to activate the stinking thing.
Just as you can use standard RAM in Apple hardware today that you can buy from any source, or attach any monitor you like to any Mac, you'll be able to use standard components in the new Mac Pro....
So you are wrong. Again.
Like I said, start with learning about cars.
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I see, Dell is known for super high quality, hmmm (Score:2)
I'm sorry that your Apple stock took a major hit, but that's the risk.
Has it? I wouldn't know, I just buy it every so often and in 20-30 years I may sell some.
The dividends certainly have not taken any hits, they keep increasing [apple.com]...
Thanks for reminding me to buy some more with the dividends, if it's really down I am in luck!
Fact is, Apple hardware is based on the designer BYOD market. Everything Apple does is antithetical to Dell. Dell sells real PowerEdge servers, complete with fault tollerence PSUs, ECC R
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Calling the Mac Mini a server is so laughable it discredits your entire post.
15,000 jobs (Score:1)
that's a lot of gender studies graduates.
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Farm (Score:2)
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Californication (Score:2)
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Noooo (Score:2)
This is rather close to where I live, so I expect to see my already rising property value shoot up, along with traffic levels. If we were looking to sell the house, it'd be one thing, but we aren't, so it's another.
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Yes. Beto won Austin, and other major cities in Texas, handily.
https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/texas-senate
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Not the only one. Although they're not nearly as left-leaning, Dallas, (but NOT Fort Worth,) and San Antonio are both blue areas.
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Houston is also a very liberal city.
The only reason Texas is considered a "red" state is because of gerrymandering. It's changing, and fast. Soon, Texas will go back to being a Democratic state.
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If so...sad, truly sad.
Watch out TX...say goodbye to your freedoms, and traditional way of living with independence and welcome the overbearing, overtaxing govt. overlords.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
There really is no honest measure of "freedoms" by which Texas could be said to be better off than California.
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Really?
Try buying and even carrying the same guns and knives in CA that you are free to do in TX for one example.
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It's amusing how people in red states view California.
We try not to disabuse them of those notions because we don't want them coming here.
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Except that's really how bad some of the areas in LA, SF and SD actually are. Hell, we had a really bad hepatitis outbreak in SD because of our homeless problems. This stuff is actually happening.
I can't comment on Texas but being in San Diego can definitely comment on California and SD.
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Yeah, about that "San Diego Hepatitis Outbreak". It's a nationwide outbreak occurring in rural areas of Missouri, Kentucky and Indiana at a higher rate than in any California city. Also, Utah, Arkansas, Florida, North Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee and West Virginia.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com... [huffingtonpost.com]
https://www.cdc.gov/hepatitis/... [cdc.gov]
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Funny, listing off the top 10 states that produce renewable energy. Texas is there, FUCKING CALIFORNIA IS NOT. Yup, those god damn hill billy's are producing more renewable energy then you bigoted fucking pussy liberals.
https://www.renewableenergywor... [renewableenergyworld.com]
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What ever, you cunt liberals still import 45 percent of your energy from other states.
Yet, beyond power rates 45% above the U.S. average, California has another problem that makes it less of a model than some proclaim. California now imports 33% of its electricity supply from fast growing neighbors, with about 65% of that coming from the Southwest an
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We use to have brownouts back then. I haven't had any issues in my area of San Diego for quite a while. You are still right about all you said though.
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Those brownouts were during the wonderful Pete Wilson republican halcyon days when deregulation would solve all of Cali's energy problems. Remember Enron?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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Texas isn't that conservative (Score:5, Insightful)
We don't want the capital of Texas to turn into the bay area.
"We"? Speak for yourself and only for yourself. Your opinion is not widely shared in Austin. People have been moving to Austin in droves precisely because it is a good place to live, the city is (mostly) well run, and there are great jobs to be had there as a tech hub. If that's not your brand of vodka, fine but that's your problem.
You can keep your leftist attitudes and taxes where they are.
A) You being uncomfortable with someone who isn't a conservative is your problem, not anyone else's
B) Evidently you've never actually been to Austin if you think it's overrun by conservatives. Hell I consider it a bastion of sanity in Texas.
C) The notion that Texas is uniformly conservative is a ridiculous myth. At most it's around 58%/42% skewing conservative based on recent election results.
Re:Texas isn't that conservative (Score:4, Insightful)
We don't want the capital of Texas to turn into the bay area.
"We"? Speak for yourself and only for yourself. Your opinion is not widely shared in Austin. People have been moving to Austin in droves precisely because it is a good place to live, the city is (mostly) well run, and there are great jobs to be had there as a tech hub. If that's not your brand of vodka, fine but that's your problem.
You can keep your leftist attitudes and taxes where they are.
A) You being uncomfortable with someone who isn't a conservative is your problem, not anyone else's B) Evidently you've never actually been to Austin if you think it's overrun by conservatives. Hell I consider it a bastion of sanity in Texas. C) The notion that Texas is uniformly conservative is a ridiculous myth. At most it's around 58%/42% skewing conservative based on recent election results.
The things that are attracting Apple to there - the low taxes and so forth - are due to the conservatism.
Remove the conservatism, you remove what is attracting them to there.
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Oh, you mean the low taxes fueled by all that black stuff in the ground. Remove the conservatism and Texas would be doing even better.
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Texas has oil (Score:2)
Texas has been prosperous precisely because of fiscal conservatism.
Texas has been prosperous because it has a about 1/3 of US oil reserves and oil is doing well [oilprice.com]. 4 of the 5 largest companies [wikipedia.org] based in Texas are oil and gas companies. That's how they can get away with the tax policies they do. Many other states don't have massive oil reserves to take up the slack. If conservatism were such a boon then how do you explain California which clearly is not conservative leaning having a far larger economy than Texas despite having higher tax burdens as a general proposition?
It's about talent, not taxes (Score:2)
The things that are attracting Apple to there - the low taxes and so forth - are due to the conservatism.
Umm, no. The reason Apple is interested is because there is a lot of tech talent already there and the city knows how to work with big tech companies productively. Furthermore Apple is ALREADY big in Austin with over 6000 employees currently. Any other reasons are minor in comparison. Taxes played at most a minor role in why tech talent is in Austin. Apple is interested in the area because a lot of other tech companies (Amazon, Dell, Intel, Oracle, IBM, Indeed, Electronic Arts, Facebook, National Inst
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The things that are attracting Apple to there - the low taxes and so forth - are due to the conservatism.
Remove the conservatism, you remove what is attracting them to there.
I'm sure they could have found a place with even lower taxes. In today's economy, the important thing is having a large pool of skilled workers which I bet is why Apple is moving there. of course, Austin has those workers because of the University and also probably associated liberalism typically found in an college town which draws in people from not only the rest of Texas and the South, but makes it palitable to people from other parts of the nation.
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Oh yah those low taxes are so great. The potholes in the streets in my hometown are intense cause all these cheap stingy rednecks
I see; so you think Apple is attracted by the potholes instead of the low taxes.
Re: Texas isn't that conservative (Score:1)
From an outside of California perspective, the last thing Texans want is to have the same problems California has.
California refugees moving to Texas flush with cash after selling their homes for 1M+ do nothing but drive up home prices to the point where no one except said refugees can afford to buy one. I'm sure the news of Apple showing up just jumped the housing prices in that area a bit.
Once the home prices make the jump, salaries have to follow suit or your employees can't afford to live nearby.
As ho
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I'm in Texas and you're right, we don't want smarter, sexier, better California types moving in and fucking our ugly women in Texas. It's hard enough keeping them in the barn as is, and we're mostly all related.
You know, one thing that Texas has in abundance, that I wish I had growing up in California or New York, are pretty women. They are everywhere.
There's lots of bad here: the roads are grossly inadequate for the volume of traffic, there does not seem to exist the concept of city planning or traffic p
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They have basically open immigration within the EU, which has 512 million people. This would be equivalent to Canada (36 million), the US (325 million), Mexico (129 million), and Central America (41 million) not requiring work, residency, and settlement visas to move to any country within the bloc.
France, Sweden, and the Netherlands are actually more open to immigration than the US.
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More sovereign than US states, where Federal subsidies can be taken away for trivial things like setting the drinking age at age 19 vs age 21. But, you say, they're subsidies, not mandates. Well, where do you think the money from the subsidies comes from? Direct taxation of state residents/citizens, that's where. "We'll steal your money, and we may return some or all of it if you play nice."
PS, if you're going to talk about Polish laundry girls, at least spell their names right. It's "Zofia", "Pani Zof
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That's unfortunately why there is no real reason for me to leave San Diego. All the places I may want to move to for cost of living and lower taxes are well on their way to being made into California, but without the awesome weather San Diego has.
I would tolerate snow for a better overall standard of life, but that's not actually available anymore unless you really go to the middle of no where.
I'll just stay in my condo and dream of a massive market crash as it will be the only way I will get into a house.
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Not here. This isn't as bad as Amazon coming in, but please, not here. We don't want the capital of Texas to turn into the bay area. You can keep your leftist attitudes and taxes where they are.
It is how I feel about all the Texans moving to where I live. We sure as fuck don't want their inbred ideals. And why can't a Texan ever tell the truth? The way to tell they are lying is whenever they open their mouths. Just a state of cowards.
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I'll strongly disagree with you, and also disagree that progress and growth has to equate us turning into the Bay Area.
Just to hedge my bets, I'm registering austinpoopmap.com!
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Do you live here? Next to Apple's campus at Riata is Oracle, up the street is Flextronics. Cadence has a building in that general area, IBM has a few locations, Synopsys is down on Mopac near Intel, ARM is down the street from them (I think they're still there, they were moving to a larger building I thought a few years ago). AMD has a huge ass campus down south, along with Freescale. Dell is all up and down I-35. Those are just a few.
Texas made the choice of attracting out of state businesses with low taxe
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We don't want the capital of Texas to turn into the bay area.
There's no danger of that, because there's no bay. Just a dinky little lake.
You can keep your leftist attitudes and taxes where they are.
Austin is already quite leftist, especially compared to the rest of Texas, and Texas itself would already be a blue state if not for gerrymandering — albeit by a slight margin. As a Californian I had no trouble fitting in with the native nerds. In fact, I was more socially successful there and among them than among my native, Californian geeks.
I left because the weather sucked, but if it's going to suck everywhere...
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We don't want the capital of Texas to turn into the bay area. You can keep your leftist attitudes and taxes where they are.
Then grow some balls, learn from the French [nbcnews.com] and go out there and break something. Bring all your buddies. Burn some shit down. Go torch a couple of Apple stores. They will get the message quick and retreat. Note how quickly Macron folded and gave up his fossil fuel Climate Tax once a couple hundred thousand Frenchies took to the streets.
Problem with you red state "conservatives" is that all you do is sit on you fat asses drinking beer and watching NASCAR. You don't actually *do* anything when action is nee
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