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Huawei Trolls Apple By Giving Battery Packs To People Waiting in Line For the iPhone XS (abacusnews.com) 97

Posted by msmash from the child-games dept.
Huawei, which recently surpassed Apple to become the world's second largest smartphone player, can't stop taking shots at the iPhone maker. From a report: After the iPhone XS was unveiled with little new, Huawei tweeted "Thank you for letting us be the real hero of the year," a tease for their upcoming Mate 20 Pro unveiling next month. Now Huawei's taking another shot -- by handing out battery packs to people waiting in line for the iPhone XS and XS Max in Singapore. The packaging says "You'll need it", which is actually a valid boast: Anandtech found that Huawei's P20 and P20 Pro had better battery life than the iPhone 8 and X.
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  • Dump stupid smartphones (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Get rid of silly useless energy-hogging smartphones that you really don't need in the first place and get a nice cheap basic dumbphone instead, the battery will last a week on one charge and you'll have so much more time to do other things when you're not wasting it all with your eyes glued to the screen like some silly child.

    • Re: Dump stupid smartphones (Score:5, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 21, 2018 @03:48PM (#57356920)

      -Sent from my iPhone

    • And, you could buy a replacement battery at Batteries Plus, Amazon or some other retailer, snap off the back off the phone to swap the energy containers. Expect to run out of energy? Carry a spare, charged battery; no cable needed.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by eihab ( 823648 )

      Why not both? I have a dumb phone with a battery that lasts for 20+ days on standby and my iPhone is covered in a Mophie which gives me 2-3 times the battery life which usually means ~2 days of active use.

      • my iPhone is covered in a Mophie which gives me 2-3 times the battery life which usually means ~2 days of active use.

        That's kind of like Kate Moss wearing a fat suit...

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by eihab ( 823648 )

          > That's kind of like Kate Moss ...

          No idea who you're talking about.

        • my iPhone is covered in a Mophie which gives me 2-3 times the battery life which usually means ~2 days of active use.

          That's kind of like Kate Moss wearing a fat suit...

          Then she would look healthy, and wouldn't blow out of a window.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by sjames ( 1099 )

      To be fair, I actually do use the email, browser, and an ssh client on my phone quite frequently. The latter is not something I have ever seen on a feature phone.

      What I don't get is skimping on the battery so you can make it thin enough to chop onions just to stick it in a thick case to keep it from breaking.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Cito ( 1725214 )

      I never once owned a cellphone and never will. I have landline and my mobile I have my ham radio. And I use autopatch when I need to make a quick phone call on the radio. And at home I have full duplex reverse auto patch to accept calls over 70cm band.

      Been using that setup since 1995 works perfectly. I've seen friends go from RadioShack brick cellphones to startac flip phones to Motorola and Nokia banana phones on to smartphones and not once have I wanted to get in on that bullshit.

  • I find it kind of amusing they were handing out a battery pack for people waiting in line for new devices, when the newer ones will probably have even better life and might just beat the Huawei ones (for real life use especially).

    That certainly would be the case if the Xr were shipping.

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Anonymous Coward

      apple isn't about being better; its about paying more.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by piojo ( 995934 )

      the newer ones will probably have even better life and might just beat the Huawei ones (for real life use especially).

      There can be no fair comparison, since the Huawei firmware kills critical background processes and services. So their selling point is also a bug. Apple probably works much better in that regard, but I can't vouch for it.

  • It's iPhone 2,659mAh vs. Huawei 3,400mAh. (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward

    And the iPhone isn't anymore efficient or significantly better performing per watt in either synthetic tests or real life usage.

    Just in case you were wondering.

  • Huawei Phones: Now with EXTRA spyware! (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Of course their phones have better batteries. How is the Chinese gov't going to spy on you if your phone dies?

  • Biggest battery drainer? Google apps. (Score:4, Interesting)

    by devslash0 ( 4203435 ) on Friday September 21, 2018 @04:20PM (#57357086)
    I own a 5 years old Nexus 5 on which I've been running LineageOS pretty much since its inception. I recently made a few pro-privacy changes in my life and realised that I don't actually need any Google software on my phone anymore. Having disposed of G-Apps, the battery life went from 1 day to almost 3 days. This clearly shows how much their apps do behind the scenes. If I had to guess, I'd say that they are probably covertly using your location (regardless of your settings) to predict things like traffic, peak hours at shopping centres and such like.
    • Sorry. I should have been clearer. Of course Android comes from Google. I meant that I do not need any parts of the Google Suite / preload apps.

    • Re: Biggest battery drainer? Google apps. (Score:5, Informative)

      by GrahamJ ( 241784 ) on Friday September 21, 2018 @05:36PM (#57357442)

      Your intuition is quite correct:

      Google data collection research

      https://digitalcontentnext.org... [digitalcontentnext.org]

      The key findings include:

      A dormant, stationary Android phone (with the Chrome browser active in the background) communicated location information to Google 340 times during a 24-hour period, or at an average of 14 data communications per hour. In fact, location information constituted 35 percent of all the data samples sent to Google.

      For comparisonâ(TM)s sake, a similar experiment found that on an iOS device with Safari but not Chrome, Google could not collect any appreciable data unless a user was interacting with the device. Moreover, an idle Android phone running the Chrome browser sends back to Google nearly fifty times as many data requests per hour as an idle iOS phone running Safari.

      An idle Android device communicates with Google nearly 10 times more frequently as an Apple device communicates with Apple servers. These results highlighted the fact that Android and Chrome platforms are critical vehicles for Googleâ(TM)s data collection. Again, these experiments were done on stationary phones with no user interactions. If you actually use your phone the information collection increases with Google.

      Google has the ability to associate anonymous data collected through passive means with the personal information of the user. Google makes this association largely through advertising technologies, many of which Google controls. Advertising identifiersâ"which are purportedly âoeuser anonymousâ and collect activity data on apps and third-party webpage visitsâ"can get associated with a userâ(TM)s real Google identity through passing of device-level identification information to Google servers by an Android device.

      Likewise, the DoubleClick cookie IDâ"which tracks a userâ(TM)s activity on the third-party webpagesâ"is another purportedly âoeuser anonymousâ identifier that Google can associate to a userâ(TM)s Google account. It works when a user accesses a Google application in the same browser in which a third-party webpage was accessed previously.

      A major part of Googleâ(TM)s data collection occurs while a user is not directly engaged with any of its products. The magnitude of such collection is significant, especially on Android mobile devices, arguably the most popular personal accessory now carried 24/7 by more than 2 billion people.

      This is what you get for using a device whose operating system is made by the worldâ(TM)s largest ad network.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        That's what happens when you have location based services turned on, like the default local weather display in the Google launcher. Try turning that off and run the test again.

      • Thanks Graham. This is a very interesting report. I'll read it in full tomorrow morning.

  • Ironic (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Fuck them. Nexus 6Ps were made by Huawei, and those phones are plagued with battery issues. The batteries aren't replaceable and they didn't stand behind them.

  • Why Huawei thought a marketing stunt comprised of taking the piss out of consumers was a good idea is beyond me. Taking the piss out of Apple? Well, sure. But of Apple *users*? That's a remarkably crass thing for a company to do.

  • Huawei devices having higher capacity batteries does not make a boast about iPhone users needing external batteries valid.

  • Iâ(TM)ll take a bit less battery life over this:

    Google data collection research

    https://digitalcontentnext.org... [digitalcontentnext.org]

    The key findings include:

    A dormant, stationary Android phone (with the Chrome browser active in the background) communicated location information to Google 340 times during a 24-hour period, or at an average of 14 data communications per hour. In fact, location information constituted 35 percent of all the data samples sent to Google.

    For comparisonâ(TM)s sake, a similar experiment found

  • For the humor impaired. (Score:3)

    by mspohr ( 589790 ) on Friday September 21, 2018 @06:20PM (#57357622)

    Reading these responses, I can see that Apple users have no sense of humor.
    Relax and enjoy your free gift.

  • Huawei was the company who proudly showed excellent quality selfies produced with their new phones - and then it turned out that they were actually taken by a professional with a professional DSLR camera. Not on a phone as they claimed.

    And the iPhone XS and XS Max have significantly longer battery life than the older models.

    • You push the button and a Huawei rep arrives via helicopter, whips out a Nikon D5, "gets the shot", and uploads it to your Huawei cloud for you before flying off into the sunset (or sunrise in Europe, faster to get back to China).

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