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Shouting 'Pay Your Taxes', Activists Occupy Apple Stores in France (marketwatch.com) 233

An anonymous reader quotes MarketWatch: A group of global activists stormed and occupied several Apple Stores in France on Saturday in a move aimed at pressuring the company to pay up on a €13 billion ($15.5 billion) tax bill to the European Union. In a press release, the France unit of the Association for the Taxation of Financial Transactions and Citizen's Action organization (Attac), said 100 of its members occupied the Opera Apple Store in Paris, demanding the company pay its taxes... Attac said dozens of protests were organized at other Apple store locations throughout France on Saturday. In the Paris store, activists were seen via videos circulating on Twitter, pushing past security and hanging a banner that said "We will stop when Apple pays." Security in Paris reportedly evacuated Apple workers from the building as those protests began.
After three hours they left the store -- leaving behind protest messages on the iPads on display. The group claims that Apple has stashed $230 billion in tax havens around the world, but also hopes to raise awareness about other issues.

"Attac said the action was part of the #PhoneRevolt movement aimed at highlighting unfair practices by Apple, that are not just about taxes, but also pollution via extraction of metals for its phones, worker exploitation and driving a global consumption binge."
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Shouting 'Pay Your Taxes', Activists Occupy Apple Stores in France

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  • Taxes? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by dicobalt ( 1536225 ) on Saturday December 02, 2017 @07:55PM (#55665693)
    Giant corporations don't pay taxes, they evade them. Then they hoard more money by using $2/hr Chinese labor which is illegal anywhere else but okay since it is across a line on a map and in China. Then they buy out their competition and use frivolous IP lawsuits to limit new competition. There, now you know everything you need to know in order to become a member of the Corporatist movement and control your elected official using money.
  • by guruevi ( 827432 ) <evi&evcircuits,com> on Saturday December 02, 2017 @07:58PM (#55665709) Homepage

    ... went to the nearby Starbucks to Twitter about their "action", and posting their selfies on Instagram and Facebook using their iPhones.

  • Good for France (Score:2, Informative)

    Seems like they are awake. Taxes are what holds up and maintains infrastructure, health, food and shelter for the poor.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      And plenty in taxes are paid. So this is nothing but statist slaver bullshit.

      • Welll, they just got a big tax break from the folks with sponsors. Their taxes in this country will go down as will greedy billionairs taxes while most of us will have increased taxes. The USA really can't afford these bastards anymore. They are huge leaches sucking the life out of us.
      • So the next time I go to a store and my bill comes to $200, I should just hand them $50 and tell them that's plenty? It will be plenty to me, so I guess that's all that matters right?
      • One would assume that "plenty" would be the legally required amount, which Apple has been careful to evade.

    • by Kohath ( 38547 )

      Taxes are what holds up and maintains infrastructure, health, food and shelter for the poor.

      Why shouldn’t French people pay for government services to help French people?

    • by jcr ( 53032 )

      Bullshit. Taxes are what makes it possible for governments to murder people en masse.


    • Re:Good for France (Score:5, Insightful)

      by phayes ( 202222 ) on Saturday December 02, 2017 @09:06PM (#55665947) Homepage

      Note that I'm French.

      If your sentiment that the reason for the protests were that french people desire companies to pay their taxes were true, they would have been protesting in Total gas stations. The problem is that Total, (who owes more money in taxes to the French Government) Is French so it wouldn't be popular. Muuch better to target that foreign Apple company...

      • Gas stations? Gas stations are local. They are not overseas companies. The taxes go for infrastructure to France, don't they? Do you like pot holes in roads?
        • by phayes ( 202222 )

          I'd prefer it if they weren't hypocritically targeting foreign companies. The taxes that Total is avoiding paying are higher than those for Apple. Potholes don't care who paid the taxes to fix them.

          • I'm not seeing that on the internet, maybe you could provide an English-language source?

            The internet says they lose money in France, and actually don't owe much taxes there.

            It does say their subsidiary Total Gabon owes lots of unpaid taxes to Gabon.

          • Two very well said comments! You are on top of what's really going on! I fear that we are going to be catapulted back in time to the age of "Lords" and "surfs". But don't forget that the way to win a war is not with violence. All wars were only won with peace movements from Gandhi to Reverend Martin Luther King.
      • Undoing mod.... I am french too , and the reason people do not protest that much about total, is that apple is far more in the news, and news about total tax far less you have to dig and keep yourself informed (*). Otherwise those hippie activist (yes I know some of them, and they are the 2017 hippies)= would protest a dirty , co2 making , petrol station than apple. But they are as a group (at least those I speak to) utterly uninformed (*). It isn't about foreign company AT ALL. If you knew anything about t
    • What, are governments going broke or something? Gimme a break! They're awash in cash, they spend it all, and then they borrow in order to spend even more money. Like that poor government just doesn't have enough money and we need to pay more. Jesus Christ.
      • To THAT i'l agree on 100%! - Responsible spending of taxes is for all political parties. You don't put the money in your pockets, give it to "friends" as some incentive, or bribe someone with it, or think you are going to gain some sort of "power" if you keep it... It is to be spent on the people!
    • Well then, perhaps they should pressure the world's governments to close the loopholes that make tax avoidance (This is NOT tax *evasion* we're talking about.) possible.

      That will never happen though, because those loopholes are there on purpose. And closing them would anger the companies that actually payed for them to be there. The only reason various people are in a snit about Apple, Google, Amazon, Facebook, and the like, is that these companies cleverly realized that, once on the books, those laws act

  • I appreciate the efforts taken. But protesting against a company that behaves immorally is the epitome of silliness.

    Companies aren't obliged to have a moral; They merely need to obey the law. They must explore every way of making money and optimizing costs. Their competitors will do likewise.

    Go after politicians that created opportunities for companies to optimize their taxes to an absurd level. Hell you can even use your actual influence and vote to try and accomplish your goal and make tax laws mor

    • If companies are not obliged to have a moral, why do protesters do? Why can a company do whatever it wants while individuals are always judged morally. I think that the reason why these protesters are acting the way they are is because they are fighting fire with fire. Maybe their mistake is that their fire is not hot enough.

  • Literally payback. Apple has cherrypicked tax localities and laws to the point of absurdity.

Logic is the chastity belt of the mind!