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Boston Red Sox Used Apple Watches To Steal Hand Signals From Yankees (macrumors.com) 197

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Mac Rumors: Investigators for Major League Baseball believe the Boston Red Sox, currently in first place in the American League East, have used the Apple Watch to illicitly steal hand signals from opposing teams, reports The New York Times. The Red Sox are believed to have stolen hand signals from opponents' catchers in games using video recording equipment and communicated the information with the Apple Watch. An inquiry into the Red Sox' practice started two weeks ago following a complaint from Yankees general manager Brian Cashman, who caught a member of the Red Sox training staff looking at his Apple Watch in the dugout and then relaying information to players. It's believed the information was used to determine the type of pitch that was going to be thrown. Baseball investigators corroborated the claim using video for instant replay and broadcasts before confronting the Red Sox. The team admitted that trainers received signals from video replay personnel and then shared them with some players.

"The Red Sox told league investigators said that team personnel scanning instant- replay video were electronically sending the pitch signs to the trainers, who were then passing the information to the players," reports The New York Times. [...] "The video provided to the commissioner's office by the Yankees was captured during the first two games of the series and included at least three clips. In the clips, the team's assistant athletic trainer, Jon Jochim, is seen looking at his Apple Watch and then passing information to outfielder Brock Holt and second baseman Dustin Pedroia, who was injured at the time but in uniform. In one instance, Pedroia is then seen passing the information to Young."

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Boston Red Sox Used Apple Watches To Steal Hand Signals From Yankees

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  • by CrimsonAvenger ( 580665 ) on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @09:35PM (#55145475)
    White Sox last time, now the Red Sox? What's with teams named after socks?
    • by DontBeAMoran ( 4843879 ) on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @10:36PM (#55145783)

      White Sox, Red Sox, New York Mets Sox.

    • by antdude ( 79039 )

      More sux. ;)

    • Baseball players wear socks. The colors of the socks are team colors. Duh.

      In the past, all the players wore stirrup socks with shorter uniform pants so the socks were a very visible part of the uniform. Most players today wear pants that come down to their shoes and the socks are harder to see.
    • by sabbede ( 2678435 ) on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @07:34AM (#55146961)
      Forget the Sox, think about Boston. The Patriots got busted doing almost the same thing - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

      Where do they play? Boston.

    • One was cheating to lose, the other cheating to win. Quite a big difference in my book.

    • White Sox last time, now the Red Sox? What's with teams named after socks?

      The Cincinnati Reds were originally the Cincinnati Red Stockings and the name got shortened a long time ago to just Reds. I guess it was just an easy nickname to use and no chance of offending anybody to name yourself after socks. One of the more interesting baseball team names is the Nippon Ham Fighters in the Japanese league. Many Americans incorrectly parse that as Nippon - Ham Fighters like "Ham Fighters" was a thing when actually it should be Nippon Ham - Fighters. Fighters is the team name and Nip

      • I promise you, not many Americans parse Japanese league team names, correctly or incorrectly.
    • by Quirkz ( 1206400 )

      Even more confusing, the Cincinnati Reds used to be named the Red Stockings. That got changed a long time ago, though. With good reason.

      The problem I have is referring to a singular member of the team. Is he a Red Sock? But it's a x and not an s, so it's not really a plural, even though it's kind of faking it. It's definitely not a Red So. Maybe a Red Soc, just to continue the irregularity?

  • by bytethese ( 1372715 ) on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @09:36PM (#55145481)
    Red Sox now the new Black Sox?
  • by MrKaos ( 858439 )
    So fucking what.
  • What is the difference between this and stealing another team's signs, which happens -all the time-?

    It's been happening for over a century, in fact.

    • What is the difference between this and stealing another team's signs, which happens -all the time-?

      It's been happening for over a century, in fact.

      If your signs get stolen because you get sloppy and don't protect them or vary them, that's on you. But if you're the visiting team and the home team is using TV cameras to steal signs, that's a problem that baseball should try to eliminate. Big difference between this and run of the mill sign stealing. Using apple watches and a staff of camera men to steal signs has definitely not been happening for over a century.

    • The difference is that normally only a runner at second base can steal the catcher's signs, which is why they make the signs more complicated when there's a runner on second. The use of a camera and electronic relay means the signs can be stolen without any real effort and without the other team being aware that there's any danger.

  • Theft (Score:5, Funny)

    by jemmyw ( 624065 ) on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @09:48PM (#55145541)
    So once these signs were stolen was the opposing team no longer able to use them? How were these signs returned once the thieves had been caught?

    Apart from the use of technology, which might be banned from the field, this seems like a perfectly legitimate tactic.
  • Sports (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @09:50PM (#55145555)

    I have noticed a inverse correlation between people who like sports and people who are good at logic, math and technology.

    Sports are where you put the slow children.

    • Re: Sports (Score:5, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @10:13PM (#55145677)

      Surely sports is where you out the fast children?

    • Sports are where you put the slow children.

      No, special olympics are where you put the slow children.

    • In my graduating class (a little over 300 kids), I'd say at least 75% of the top 30 students also played at least one sport. Of course they were sports other than American football.

      It is possible to be smart and physically coordinated.
      • In my graduating class (a little over 300 kids), I'd say at least 75% of the top 30 students also played at least one sport. Of course they were sports other than American football. It is possible to be smart and physically coordinated.

        My graduating class was 96, IIRC, and about 80 played at least one sport. 100% also went on to four year colleges, most of which were more selective and arguably better than state schools. I don't think this proves anything, but you can take that for data.

      • Physical activity increases brain-derived neural factor, leading to higher neuroplasticity and increased rate of learning. It also increases blood flow, toxin clearing (like, actual toxins, the stuff your Cytochrome P450 enzymes and renal system cleans up, not whatever bullshit soaking in salt water is supposed to remove), dopamine levels, and reliability of your circadian system.

        Motivation increases attention span, and so an interest in a particular subject drives your capacity to study and learn that s

      • In my graduating class (a little over 300 kids), I'd say at least 75% of the top 30 students also played at least one sport. Of course they were sports other than American football.

        It is possible to be smart and physically coordinated.

        Possible, but extremely unlikely. Your 75% of the top 30 doesn't mean shit. Not only does it not prove they were smart, it doesn't prove they played the sport to any degree of competency. All the "smart" kids go into a sport, marching band, and other "extra curricular" shit in order to fluff out a college application. It doesn't mean they're worth shit in the sport, and excelling at school doesn't mean you've got a brain between your ears. The jocks on the other hand at least actually show their prowes

    • I have noticed a inverse correlation between people who like sports and people who are good at logic, math and technology.

      Sports are where you put the slow children.

      You used the wrong article before "inverse" while trying to belittle others, so where do you fall in this hierarchy, below the slow athletes? Go practice your trolling elsewhere and come back once you've learned something, thanks.

    • I take it you got picked last a lot?

    • Maybe, but then again the average person likes sports. The average person is also of average intelligence.

      Above average people can like sports too though. My dad played college football (albeit at a small college) before he became a senior oncology and immunology researcher at a pharmaceutical lab. Condoleeza Rice was the provost of Stanford, National Security Advisor and Secretary of State, but her dream job was NFL Commissioner.

      That said, I frikkin hate sports. Especially when they pre-empt The

    • by hey! ( 33014 )

      Except for baseball, which is the sport of math nerds.

      People who've never seen a baseball are amazed by the fact that it's mostly waiting around for something to happen. It's really impossible to enjoy baseball until you've seen a couple of hundred games. Baseball is a game of situations, and what you do in all that waiting is to compare the current situation to analogous situations and argue over which aspects of the current situation are most salient (e.g. this particular batter has gone 0 for 5 against

    • I don't think you have ever tried to hit a baseball at normal pitching speed
  • by slashmydots ( 2189826 ) on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @09:52PM (#55145569)
    But how are the New England Patriots involved? It just sounds like their sort of thing.
  • by turkeydance ( 1266624 ) on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @09:54PM (#55145585)
    you know, stealing on steroids
  • When are they going to ditch that boring game and replace it with Blernsball?

  • Until they start adhering to the salary cap, they deserve whatever underhanded tactics any other team may use.

  • The opposing team just needs to up their game and hack their apple accounts, or nearby wifi or cel towers. Maybe someone has a jammer installed in their mound. Then countermeasures for those countermeasures...

    You too, mr haxxor, could play for the yankees!

    Evolution of the game, right?

  • What is it about Boston teams that a) they're always cheating and b) they're stupid enough to get caught cheating?

    I mean, Cameragate, Deflategate and now this AppleWatchgate. More steroid users than a Mr Universe competition. Corked bats, doctored baseballs and high slides. Beanballs.

    I really don't care as long as nobody refers to them as the "Sox", because everyone knows that "Sox" refers to the one true Sox, my Chicago White Sox, pride of the South Side. They can take their filthy-ass, broken-down sta

    • >they're stupid enough to get caught cheating?

      I know, right?

      A couple of well-placed agents in the stands with good cameras and a cell phone could have handled this almost as effectively without ever getting caught.

      Incompetence.

      I don't see this as cheating, though, it's more of an opportunity to enter a technology arms race. The other team needs radios with throat mics on an encrypted channel so they can't be intercepted. Or maybe safety glasses with a HUD.

    • Maybe its the accepted corruption in Boston politics.

      The two most corrupt States are right next to each other, Massachusetts and Rhode Island.
      • The two most corrupt States are right next to each other, Massachusetts and Rhode Island.

        I would suggest that Texas is more corrupt than either Massachusetts or Rhode Island. The pols down there are so crooked it would make a Chicago alderman blush.

  • If only the Yankees had copyrighted their signals then they could have filed a DCMA takedown request and prevented the Apple Watch from sending it...right?
  • its top of the 19th at Fenway, 2-2, Kevin Pillar at the plate, Hector Velazquez pitching....
  • So what if they were....

  • For a brief moment in history, baseball became interesting. Then it went back to being just like it was before.

  • it's about time the Yankees use encrypted electronic messages instead of hand-signs that every moron can see.
    Then these complaints will be moot.

  • More and more incidents like this and still they won't let us sue the stores that sell these products or manufacturers who arm managers and players with them.

    Arm... heh... see what I did there?

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