Apple To Release Public Betas of iOS 10 and macOS Sierra Today 88
The next version of Apple's desktop operating system, macOS Sierra, will be made available in a public beta later today. Enthusiasts can also try their hands at iOS 10, the latest version of Apple's mobile operating system today. Both the new operating system versions offer a range of new features and improvements. Sierra, for instance, features Siri voice assistant which will assist users with locating files, answering queries, and search for images and information just by asking. iOS 10 lets users write a message in their own handwriting, and has a feature called "Raise to Wake" which wakes up the device when a user picks up their iPhone. Notifications have gotten more powerful, and now show photos and videos as well. You will find the macOS Sierra preview here, and iOS 10 preview here. More information on Apple's beta program here.
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Linux rules! Crapple drools!
Honestly, I see absolutely NOTHING "drool-worthy" in the desktop environments that Linux users suffer with. Hell, ask an honest Linux user, and most will agree that the popular GUIs for Linux are generally sucktastic. Add to that the internal strife that systemd has added, and Linux is utterly ignore-able by most Mac users.
As for Android, you honestly couldn't pay me to give up my iPhone for that Orphaned Product-Pile and Malware-Fest that is Android.
Re:Score: +99 Leeeeeeeenux! (Score:5, Insightful)
Well, yeah, but lets be blunt here, by the fact that you decide to call yourself "macs4all" you're also probably physically incapable of being objective about anything if Apple is involved. I prefer Android but would never call myself "Android4All".
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Well, yeah, but lets be blunt here, by the fact that you decide to call yourself "macs4all" you're also probably physically incapable of being objective about anything if Apple is involved. I prefer Android but would never call myself "Android4All".
Ok, while we're being blunt: You're nothing but an Anonymous Coward.
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Yup, sure am. I find it odd that somebody would have a problem with that on a site that constantly rails against privacy invasions. Isn't anonymity key to privacy?
Normally, yes. But on Slashdot, Anonymity seems to be mostly used as a Flaming/Trolling/Ad Hominem Attack Tool.
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That may be, but it didn't appear to be the case here. You're still going by "macs4all" and going level 12 fanboy in your posts.
He may want to change that as well. I hear that the new OS is *not* going to run on all Macs. It appears to be a case of "Macs4Some" ;-)
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Well, yeah, but lets be blunt here, by the fact that you decide to call yourself "macs4all" you're also probably physically incapable of being objective about anything if Apple is involved.
Talk about judging a book by its cover.
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I had an iPhone, I feel the opposite: I love being able to use a different browser on my Android phone. You couldn't pay me to have an iPhone. Safari's rendering engine sucks, after I bought my iPhone many years ago I thought "Great! I don't need to lug my laptop around for web admin tasks!" - then found out that Safari wouldn't render pages properly. So I installed a different web browser and same thing.
It was then I found out Apple forces all browsers on iOS to use Safari's rendering engine.
On Android, I
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What kind of administration do you do that would let you do meaningful work on a 5 inch screen? I'm not trying to be snide here... I'm just thinking about all the things I do, and virtually none of them are so simple that I could do that work on a miniscule mobile device.
Some kind of GUI front end with pre-configured for various common tasks?
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What kind of administration do you do that would let you do meaningful work on a 5 inch screen? I'm not trying to be snide here... I'm just thinking about all the things I do, and virtually none of them are so simple that I could do that work on a miniscule mobile device.
Some kind of GUI front end with pre-configured for various common tasks?
Sounds like he's "Admin-ing" some consumer-level networking and peripheral equipment.
IANAA (I am not an Admin), but it seems like one would use VNC to Admin. a Server, rather than a Web Application. And there are several nice VNC/RDP clients for iOS. I use "Jump", personally.
But you're right: regardless of the OS involved, Admin-ing on a mobile screen is, um, challenging.
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Back then it was mostly wifi related stuff like allowing new devices to connect. Cisco's wifi controller still has a wifi interface but I've mostly moved on to ssh for remote servers. Using VNC as someone else mentioned is a royal pain in the arse. Basic webadmin tasks is OK to do if you only have to do it once in a while.
One of the reasons I finally turfed my flip phone way back when and got the iPhone was primarily because I liked the idea of not lugging around my laptop. That didn't work out so well for
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I don't doubt it. I had thought the same thing when I got my iPad. Combined with a bluetooth keyboard, it actually *is* halfway decent. But "halfway" is still the key word, especially something as simple as an SSH client is a revolving door of apps where todays amazing app stops getting updated, and eventually disappears off the app store entirely. So I can get a reasonable amount of work done in a pinch, and it's possible to do basically everything, but you still end up finding it somewhat annoying com
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It was then I found out Apple forces all browsers on iOS to use Safari's rendering engine.
All but one. Opera Mini gets around this limit by acting as a remote display for a browser running on servers operated by Opera. It'd be like RDPing to a PC running Firefox.
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I can't agree with the bit about rendering pages properly. In my experience, Safari is outstanding at rendering content on small screens and I truly don't remember the last time I had trouble accessing a web page with it.
Yes, it's annoying that other browsers are basically wrappers around WebKit. I wish that were different. But being "stuck" with Safari isn't exactly a burden.
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Hell, ask an honest Linux user, and most will agree that the popular GUIs for Linux are generally sucktastic.
Cinnamon (Mint's main DE) is pretty decent, actually. It's not OSX, sure, but not everyone can afford Apple's stupid prices for subpar hardware.
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OSX definitely has usability in mind. It's the only laptop I've used that is actually usable. Sure it has flaws, but it makes Windows feel like amateur experiments. Linux UIs though, ugh, even the latest versions feel like a mix of a retro style that you know how to use but is clumsy combined with ultra modern that is obtuse and never does what you want; in some ways like Windows 8/10 with its two incompatible UIs operating at the same time.
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Honestly, I see absolutely NOTHING "drool-worthy" in the desktop environments that Linux users suffer with.
That's why I use the command line.
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Honestly, I see absolutely NOTHING "drool-worthy" in the desktop environments that Linux users suffer with.
That's why I use the command line.
So you're posting with Lynx? How does moderation/meta-moderation work with that, I wonder?
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So you're posting with Lynx? How does moderation/meta-moderation work with that, I wonder?
I only read Slashdot at work using Windows, as my time is too valuable to waste at home. Moderation/meta-moderation are probably clickable links in Lynx.
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is this "exploit" invoking the sudo command?
Oh noes! I have root!
Re:Score: +99 Leeeeeeeenux! (Score:5, Insightful)
I used Linux/BSD desktops for about 14 years before I gave up and bought a Mac. People laugh about "Just Works", but damned if it isn't true most of the time. "But what about my pet obscure feature X?" I had a few of those that were hard to give up, but once I stopped trying to make my Mac act exactly like KDE or awesome WM and started using their workflows I found myself being way more productive than I ever had been on Linux.
I'm not an Apple fanboy: if Linux or Windows ever got sufficiently better than OS X that I could justify changing ecosystems, I'd totally be open to considering it. Realistically, though, based on the last 20 years of watching their respective user interface development, I don't think that's likely to happen.
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I'm not an Apple fanboy: if Linux or Windows ever got sufficiently better than OS X that I could justify changing ecosystems, I'd totally be open to considering it. Realistically, though, based on the last 20 years of watching their respective user interface development, I don't think that's likely to happen.
So you would agree with my assessment that OS X/macOS has, at this time, the hands-down best desktop UI overall?
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No
I wasn't talking to you, COWARD.
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At this time, I prefer the OS X UI to any other desktop UI I've used.
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I've got a soft spot in my heart for E, but it's a fond memory from my past and not in my present (or likely future). OS X encompasses a lot more than just the UI - more like KDE than E - including stuff like reasonably reliable cloud sync; a services architecture that's actually used (click on a date in an email to create a scheduled event in the calendar app of my choosing); Wi-Fi that always comes back up after hibernation; erm, hibernation itself; tight integration between desktop apps and their mobile
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Couldn't agree more. I used various Linux distros after Windows Vista eventually spelled the death of XP but when Ubuntu went bad, I finally decided to just buy a Mac. Never been happier. It took a little while to get past the inability to configure my WM "just so", but once I got beyond my OCD tendencies in that area, the macOS was perfect. I can't see Linux or Windows being worthy enough to entice me back for many years to come. I should finally start using Numbers, Pages, etc and stop using Open Office (
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Linux rules! Crapple drools!
Honestly, I see absolutely NOTHING "drool-worthy" in the desktop environments that Linux users suffer with. Hell, ask an honest Linux user, and most will agree that the popular GUIs for Linux are generally sucktastic. Add to that the internal strife that systemd has added, and Linux is utterly ignore-able by most Mac users. As for Android, you honestly couldn't pay me to give up my iPhone for that Orphaned Product-Pile and Malware-Fest that is Android.
Didn't your mother ever teach you, "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all"?
Really, I'm glad you like Macs. But I don't understand why you choose to squirt bile on every male that crossed your dominion.
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Didn't your mother ever teach you, "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all"?
You must be new here.
;-)
Oh, and it wasn't bile. But it may have been another yellow bodily fluid...
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Where Linux shines is in making old PCs come to life again after having been saddled by Windows.
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Where Linux shines is in making old PCs come to life again after having been saddled by Windows.
That USED to be the case; but I seem to remember people on Slashdot whining a couple of years back that Linux was getting too resource-hungry to run on old hardware.
Oh, and now most Linuces will apparently be dropping support for 32 bit x86 CPUs...
So which is it?
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DISCLAIMER 1: The way I prefer to operate a computer is my preference. I do not possess any malice or arrogance against those who prefer other things but in this case I am standing up for myself.
DISCLAIMER 2: I do sometimes like to run Bungie with Tint2, it stays out of the way.
Too bad it won't run on my iPad. (Score:1)
Apple once again provides forced obsolence to their devices, including the device known as the "New iPad".
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Apple once again provides forced obsolence to their devices, including the device known as the "New iPad".
Um, Every product is "The New..." at SOME point. Then it isn't.
This is the first version of iOS for which my iPad 2 is incompatible. I consider that quite reasonable. It IS compatible with iOS 9, and it will be several years before that is "impossibly too old". Until then, (and even after that point), my iPad 2 will happily chug along, just like it has since my employer gifted it to me several years ago.
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It IS compatible with iOS 9, and it will be several years before that is "impossibly too old".
I had a 1st gen iPod Touch that lasted eight years until the battery died. Used it as a Kindle reader. I'm not surprised that the iPad 2 isn't getting updated. I'm planning to retire my iPad2 as an alarm clock with an air raid siren when I get another iPad in the future.
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Linux once again provides forced obsolence <sic> to my i386 devices.
Unlocked bootloader (Score:2)
The difference between iOS dropping old devices and what Canonical is doing to Ubuntu in the 16.10-18.04 cycle is that PC users can jump ship to another GNU/Linux distribution that keeps i386 support active. With an iPad, on the other hand, you're stuck with whatever iOS distribution Apple signs.
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That's true but also pretty irrelevant. Why in the world would someone buy an Apple product if they have an expectation of infinite software updates? It's not like Apple has suddenly changed policy.
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Then perhaps I misconstrued the presence or absence of hidden meaning in your comment. I took "Linux once again provides forced [obsolescence] to my i386 devices" to mean "which makes it no better than Apple". To be clear: is this what you intended?
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I was mocking his whiny tone and trying to be funny. Linux may be "better" than Apple in this regard, but it is still a matter of degree. Old hardware won't be supported forever, no matter what your platform is. Apple is better than most vendors at supporting older devices - I'm still getting software updates for my late 2008 MacBook Pro. I mean, damn. But hardware-wise, they won't even sell me a new battery since it falls outside of their 5-year support policy [apple.com]. Eventually they won't bother compiling OSX fo
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Apple once again provides forced obsolence to their devices, including the device known as the "New iPad".
You call it forced obsolescence, we call it a software upgrade. And unlike MS, Apple doesn't have to vainly nag us to install it and users don't feel motivated to do whatever they can to avoid installing it.
Further cloud integration? (Score:1, Insightful)
Uhm, no. I do NOT want or need anyone managing my storage for me, or to deal with service outages leaving my files unavailable. Thanks, but no thanks. Take your cloud servi
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Hopefully this feature is optional and not enabled by default.
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I agree that it should not be enabled by default, but I also think it sounds useful if you have decent internet service.
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Transparent, user-configurable and multi-cloud tiered storage is very useful.
Non-transparent, non-configurable and single-vendor tiered storage is an awful thing designed to jack up fees for users, spy on their data and an excuse to overprice under-sized local storage on vendor hardware offerings.
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Uhm, no. I do NOT want or need anyone managing my storage for me, or to deal with service outages leaving my files unavailable. Thanks, but no thanks. Take your cloud service and shove it sideways up your ass until you can taste it.
From what I have read about "Storage Optimization", All that stuff is OPTIONAL. I personally don't use ANY Apple (or anyone else's) Cloud services.
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So don't turn it on. Simple. Despite my handle there are a number of things that I would change about Apple, especially iOS. The quality of their products has started to go downhill over the last four or five years where they are focusing on the new shiny things and leaving everything else to stagnate. They have also lost the focus on keeping software easy to use in order to cram more features in. For example in the Music app on the iPhone it used to be very easy to change the volume if you were holding it
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The whole technology industry has gone downhill.
Fixes to bugs and problems has been changed to "new version releases" which in many cases means buying the product again.
Useful innovation has dropped off enormously in favor of changes designed to monetize users.
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Under-flipping-rated
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Apple's been on a cloud/no-cloud path of late - they know you might not want any cloud stuff so they will ask if you want to turn it on or off. But if you do have it on, Apple wants to make sure you see a benefit so it's not just a way for companies to scrape user data to harvest information.
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Uhm, no. I do NOT want or need anyone managing my storage for me, or to deal with service outages leaving my files unavailable. Thanks, but no thanks. Take your cloud service and shove it sideways up your ass until you can taste it.
I'd probably have more space if Apple cleaned up after itself! I was looking through my ~/AppData/Roaming/Apple and ~/AppData/Local/Apple folders last night and found apple using over ~40GB of space on my machine for iOS crash dumps (sync'ed automatically via iTunes) (10GB), the last 5 years of iTunes installers (2GB), iPhone OS images (15GB for several different models over 4 or 5 years), iPad OS Images (2GB, I only had two different model iPads in that time), and a bunch of DMG files that I could not
uglyCASE (Score:2)
I actually don't want to ever hear about OSX again, just because the new word is ugly.
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Well, it's called macOS now so you won't be hearing about OS X again. And their other operating systems are called iOS, tvOS and watchOS.
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Everything old is new again....
Us old Mac folks remember MacOS, which is what they called it when the Mac clones came out. They went back to System 7, and System 8, 9.
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It was always Mac OS from version 8, until the "OS X" branding that came along around 10.8 or so. the first 8 versions of OS X were officially "Mac OS X v10.[0-7]"
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Does it run police quest and red baron well?
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I'll settle for Kings Quest.
Handwriting? (Score:2)
iOS 10 lets users write a message in their own handwriting
Does this mean Nelson will finally be able to beat up Martin? Although I guess Martha will be dissappointed.
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Weave me a cone yoo cupid bat. [dilbert.com]
Apple's long beta cycle (Score:1)
Based on my recent past experience, you can expect the public beta cycle to begin now and continue into early next year. The last couple of public betas will have the identifiers iOS 10.0.x and iOS 10.1.x.
In Depth Review on Ars (Score:3)
ArsTechnica has a decent review [arstechnica.com], even though its still beta
Mac is nice but I am not all in (Score:1, Redundant)
Being a Mac and Linux user for sometime, I like working on my Mac but it is not my "go to" system and macOS will ensure that it stays that way. So a disclaimer, I am a programmer, so the majority of my work is not Photoshop or whatever grade A software everyone touts about as working perfectly on Mac. Compilers and mostly command line and IDE tools are what I mostly work with and things like Eclipse, Atom, and so on work pretty well across platforms. So I do get real work done on either platform. I get