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Tim Cook: "I'm Proud To Be Gay" 764

An anonymous reader writes Apple CEO Tim Cook has publicly come out as gay. While he never hid his sexuality from friends, family, and close co-workers, Cook decided it was time to make it publicly known in the hopes that the information will help others who don't feel comfortable to do so. He said, "I don't consider myself an activist, but I realize how much I've benefited from the sacrifice of others. So if hearing that the CEO of Apple is gay can help someone struggling to come to terms with who he or she is, or bring comfort to anyone who feels alone, or inspire people to insist on their equality, then it's worth the trade-off with my own privacy."

Cook added that while the U.S. has made progress in recent years toward marriage equality, there is still work to be done. "[T]here are laws on the books in a majority of states that allow employers to fire people based solely on their sexual orientation. There are many places where landlords can evict tenants for being gay, or where we can be barred from visiting sick partners and sharing in their legacies. Countless people, particularly kids, face fear and abuse every day because of their sexual orientation."
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Tim Cook: "I'm Proud To Be Gay"

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  • Gay? (Score:3, Funny)

    by TechyImmigrant ( 175943 ) on Thursday October 30, 2014 @01:39PM (#48270847) Homepage Journal

    So he isn't sad?

    Neither would I be with that income stream and position of power.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      he's sad he can't poach more couture company VPs. Apple has become a jewelry company for the 3-percenters. and indentures as many H1-B holders as possible to do it.

  • So what? (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 30, 2014 @01:40PM (#48270853)

    He should be more concerned with what he does with his Apple than what he does with his banana.

    • So what? (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      He is. Did you even read his statement? He quite clearly didn't personally want to make his private life so public, but felt that it's in the public's best interest to know as it might help fight bigotry and intolerance.

      • Re:So what? (Score:5, Insightful)

        by fche ( 36607 ) on Thursday October 30, 2014 @02:41PM (#48271645)

        "didn't personally want to make his private life so public" somehow clashes with "I'm so proud ..."

  • Yawn (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 30, 2014 @01:40PM (#48270855)

    who cares?

  • News for Nerds? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 30, 2014 @01:40PM (#48270865)

    Gays are equal to straights and should have the same rights. I find it sad that announcements like this still make headlines. It shouldn't matter nor should anyone really care (unless they are looking to hook up).

    • Re:News for Nerds? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by IANAAC ( 692242 ) on Thursday October 30, 2014 @01:52PM (#48271031)

      Gays are equal to straights and should have the same rights. I find it sad that announcements like this still make headlines. It shouldn't matter nor should anyone really care (unless they are looking to hook up).

      True enough. But considering just how straight white male oriented the tech industry is, it's good to point out that occasionally we have other possibilities.

      It truly won't be an issue when the tech industry is more aligned with the general population. We're not there yet.

      • Re:News for Nerds? (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Bob9113 ( 14996 ) on Thursday October 30, 2014 @02:32PM (#48271529) Homepage

        But considering just how straight white male oriented the tech industry is

        You mean demographic-wise or acceptance-wise? If the former, maybe, I haven't really taken a statistical sample. But if you mean the latter, where have you been working? I mean, when I was working in NYC and SF, and even Seattle, I suppose it would be expected that most of my fellow geeks didn't care about sexual orientation and were vocally pro gay rights, but even now in Phoenix almost all of my geek friends feel the same. I've always assumed it was a natural result of being future-oriented and of geekiness being an outsider culture. If your geek friends are homophobes, they'd strike me as statistically rare. Maybe you just need new friends.

    • Re:News for Nerds? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by jfbilodeau ( 931293 ) on Thursday October 30, 2014 @02:05PM (#48271193) Homepage

      Gays are equal to straights and should have the same rights.

      That's the whole problem. They do not have the same rights everywhere. I think it's important for GLBT to allow themselves to be seem for who they are to continue to ease their acceptance in society.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by kick6 ( 1081615 )
        "acceptance into society" isn't a right.
        • Re:News for Nerds? (Score:5, Insightful)

          by dywolf ( 2673597 ) on Thursday October 30, 2014 @03:28PM (#48272279)

          Actually it most certainly is.
          Not only is it a right, but it is a requirement for a functioning and stable society.
          Lack of acceptance leads to ostracism, being invisible, and even violence.
          All of which weve seen concerning -every- minority, racial religious gender/sexual identity or otherwise, in this country's history.

    • Re:News for Nerds? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by dywolf ( 2673597 ) on Thursday October 30, 2014 @03:22PM (#48272193)

      While it's been rumored for sometime, and even a bit of an open secret, he did officially for a specific reason.

      Namely that he IS in a high profile position, a public one, and a considerable amount of power and leverage.
      He is basically offering himself up as a role model for people who dont enjoy his level of acceptance or tolerance.
      There are people who deal with and put up with abuse constantly because of who they are. They percieve a lack of support, from families, friends, and hte world in general.
      Some turn to suicide or other self harm. So he by doing this is offering hope and inspiration to those poeple.

      In fact, you yourself gave the key phrase: "SHOULD have the same rights". Currently they dont. Currently they suffer considerable abuse and stigma, even in society at large. And as long as that's true, actions like his today will be needful.

      And for that he is to be commended. It does take a certain amount of courage to do so.

  • Silly (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Sort of like, "I'm proud to be 5'10"", or, "I'm proud to be male" or something. We have exactly nothing to do with creating these conditions so why would we be proud of them? Things to be proud of would be, "I wrote some amazing code." Or perhaps, "I ran five miles and made my personal best time." You aren't supposed to be proud of things you had no control of...
    • Re:Silly (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 30, 2014 @01:56PM (#48271077)

      Yeah, let's totally just ignore the history behind the use of the word 'pride' in this context. It'll totally make us look smart, edgy, and witty.

      • Oh do so fuck off wanting to change the English vocabulary and then claiming history is on your side
        Do you think the French say "gay orgueil" or "gay fierté"? They don't. They have two words for pride and neither matches. So they say "gay pride".
        Which means what?
        It means "gay pride" is a cliché. Jeez, talk about not doing oneself any favours.

        I don't have a problem with people's sexual orientation, but is it too much to ask to leave the language alone.
        Invent your own frigging word if "proud" (as it

    • Silly (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 30, 2014 @01:58PM (#48271103)

      Did you get beat up in high school for being 5'10"? Have you ever been told that you're only legally allowed to marry people within a particular height range?

      I thought not.

      It's not so much as being proud of being gay - but standing up to bigotry an intolerance is something to be proud of.

      • What, you've never heard of people being bullied for being short or too tall? You've never heard of someone not wanting to date another person because they were too short or tall either? Where the hell have you been?

        • by RatBastard ( 949 )

          Yes, that's just the same as being told by the government and society that you can't marry that cute redhead in Accounts Receivables because she's 5'2", or being told you're going to burn in Hell for eternity because you're over 6' tall, or being beaten up because you're exactly 5'9".

    • Silly (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 30, 2014 @02:03PM (#48271161)

      It's not proud as in "I am proud that I have successfully accomplished gayness." It's proud as in the opposite of "I'm ashamed that I am gay and/or feel that I have to hide it."

    • Re:Silly (Score:5, Insightful)

      by onkelonkel ( 560274 ) on Thursday October 30, 2014 @02:04PM (#48271179)

      Possibly proud means "not ashamed" in this context.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) *

      Proud because in his lifetime it's gone from being something people were ashamed of and could be fired for to something he can openly state as a matter of fact.

    • Re:Silly (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Daltorak ( 122403 ) on Thursday October 30, 2014 @02:28PM (#48271461)

      Sort of like, "I'm proud to be 5'10"", or, "I'm proud to be male" or something. We have exactly nothing to do with creating these conditions so why would we be proud of them? Things to be proud of would be, "I wrote some amazing code." Or perhaps, "I ran five miles and made my personal best time." You aren't supposed to be proud of things you had no control of...

      The idea of "gay pride" isn't a statement of "this is how I am", it's about taking a stand against oppression. People are routinely killed in the United States due solely to their sexual orientation [wikipedia.org]. Killed. Do you fucking hear me? KILLED. And the US being one of the safest places in the world to be gay! You're a lot worse off if you're in Russia, Africa, eastern Europe, many parts of India, pretty much all of Central America, the Phillipines, etc.etc., and publicly came out.

      Do people get routinely killed (or are denied access to their sick partner in a hospital, or tax breaks, etc.) for being 5'10 or being a good programmer? Emphatically no. So sit your ass down and keep your "being proud of being gay is the same as being proud of being 5'10" nonsense to yourself.

    • by zieroh ( 307208 )

      Sort of like, "I'm proud to be 5'10"", or, "I'm proud to be male" or something.

      If being 5'10" had -- in recent memory -- been the source of shame and/or discrimination at the hands of others, than you would have a workable analogy. Since that is *not* in fact the case, you got nuthin'.

  • Who _didn't_ already know he was gay? Show of hands...

  • by shadowrat ( 1069614 ) on Thursday October 30, 2014 @01:58PM (#48271101)
    Let the fruit jokes commence! (omg please don't give this +5 offensive, just can't resist)
  • by sumdumfuk ( 1155931 ) on Thursday October 30, 2014 @02:00PM (#48271133)
    Does this mean they are bringing back the rainbow colored apple logo?
  • by King_TJ ( 85913 ) on Thursday October 30, 2014 @02:05PM (#48271207) Journal

    Honestly, I'm glad to hear the guy is proud to be gay. He should be. We should ALL be proud of who we are, instead of regretting it or wasting time wishing we were different.

    The world would be a really boring place if all of us were "wired" exactly the same, with the exact same interests, habits and tendencies.

    But his sexual orientation was published years ago, and came up again some time earlier this year in news articles. So I'm not sure exactly how THIS time around is supposed to mean anything special?

    I hate to say it, but I do think all of this is at least partially motivated by a marketing angle for Apple. The company has long been known to be relatively "gay friendly" in hiring practices and in loyal user-base. (Perhaps some of that simply stems from a tendency for the gay community to care more than others about product attributes like style, design or elegance .... all areas not so often associated with computer technology but embraced by Apple since early on?) Perhaps it's just that Tim Cook feels it's a good "climate" to promote Apple as a very equal-opportunity company to work for? I don't know ... but it doesn't seem relevant to bother mentioning it (especially if he's serious about valuing his privacy like he claims), otherwise?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 30, 2014 @02:08PM (#48271249)

    To all those saying "who cares?" it matters precisely for the reasons Cooks give. Not everyone enjoys the same benefits as straight people in our society due to bigotry and ignorance enshrined in various State laws. If Cook can help bring attention to this, more power to him.

  • Courage (Score:5, Insightful)

    by DaMattster ( 977781 ) on Thursday October 30, 2014 @02:44PM (#48271675)
    i have to give Tim Cook a lot of credit for the courage it took for him to publicly admit to being gay in a culture still not completely willing to accept gays. Especially since he is at the helm of a very high profile company and it provides an interesting counterpoint to Chick-Fil-A's CEO's anti-gay sentiments.

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