Samsung's Galaxy S III Steals Smartphone Crown From iPhone 348
zacharye writes "The best-selling smartphone in the world is no longer an iPhone. New data released on Thursday by market research firm Strategy Analytics finds that Samsung's Galaxy S III was the world's top-selling smartphone model in the third quarter this year, displacing Apple's iPhone for the first time in years. Samsung announced earlier this week that cumulative Galaxy S III channel sales reached the 30 million unit milestone and according to Strategy Analytics, 18 million of those were shipped in Q3 2012. During the same period, Apple shipped an estimated 16.2 million iPhone 4S handsets, slipping into the No.2 spot for the quarter..." Also at Slash Cloud.
Samsung is better than Apple (Score:5, Informative)
That's why. :p
Re:Samsung is better than Apple (Score:5, Funny)
Love the moderation on this one. Currently "Informative", but every single descriptor fits if you think about it.
Re:Samsung is better than Apple (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Samsung is better than Apple (Score:4, Insightful)
he may be "stupid" by anon definition, but it doesn't mean he's inaccurate.
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It's an overgeneralization to say that apple never had any innovations, but it's not a stretch to say apple doesn't create very much, they just refine things.
Re:Samsung is better than Apple (Score:4, Interesting)
That's why. :p
According to the article:
However, the Galaxy S3’s position as the world’s best-selling smartphone model is likely to be short-lived. The Apple iPhone 5 has gotten off to a solid start already with an estimated 6.0 million units shipped globally during Q3 2012. We expect the new iPhone 5 to out-ship Samsung’s Galaxy S3 in the coming fourth quarter of 2012 and Apple should soon reclaim the title of the world’s most popular smartphone model
So I guess at that point they won't be better.
What would make this analysis more interesting would be to compare units sold, not just shipped.
Re:Samsung is better than Apple (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Samsung is better than Apple (Score:5, Insightful)
Apple has the advantage that they only sell one phone and call it the iPhone. Samsung on the other hand has many Samsung Galaxy [gsmarena.com] devices. A similar phenomenon exists for LG Optimus [gsmarena.com] phones. So almost all of Apple's sales are concentrated on a single device. I wonder who sells more phones overall.
I was waiting for it. The bad excuse that fanboys use to convince themselves this isn't happening. The different SGS 3 devices are akin to the fact Apple sells Iphones with Samsung, LG or Sharp screens, or the fact they have a 16, 32 or 64 GB SKU or do you honestly think there is no hardware difference between the Sprint/Verizon CDMA Iphones and the GSM Iphones? The SGS3 outsold the Iphone, you need to deal with it.
You're right that this is important to a lot of people, but not for the reason you think. The fact that Apple is making more profit than Samsung per unit means that by buying a Samsung, I will likely get a much better deal.
The litany of predictions does not bode well for Apple. In the beginning Apple fanboys said "Android will never sell" and Android sold.
Next Apple fanboys said "Android would never outsell Iphones" and Android outsold Iphones.
Then they said, "No single Android device will outsell Iphones" and the SGS3 outsold the Iphone.
Please predict something epic next, I enjoy seeing them proven wrong.
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"I think Apple is still king on that one."
They are, but will that still hold true when Apple is eventually forced to pay all the patent royalties it owes but that it has been refusing to license?
Effectively a non-trivial amount of their profit margin over their competitors is because they're not licensing the likes of FRAND and non-FRAND patents that they're legally obligated to.
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Re:Samsung is better than Apple (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Samsung is better than Apple (Score:5, Funny)
It's not as easy as you think to be able to hide behind the Anonymous Coward moniker, Mr. Cook.
Re:Samsung is better than Apple (Score:5, Insightful)
No, I think you mistook his meaning. If you have an Idea, I can copy it. If you use your Idea to make something, I can use that same Idea to make something too. If my use of the Idea isn't a copy of your product/implementation of the Idea, it's not a copy of what you did.
Intellectual Property shouldn't exist (no claim has been made about actual property). You shouldn't be able to lay exclusive claim to an Idea.
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You might be new around here, so let me explain the thinking. Note that I personally don't necessarily agree with this, but I know how to apply the Principle of Charity.
"IP" is an umbrella term which describes at least four things: copyright, patent, trademark and trade secret. These four things are very different, and obey very different rules. Moreover, terms like "IP protection" do seem to be thrown around in such a way that either the person using the term is confused that "IP" means four distinct thing
And if Samsung is the King... (Score:4, Funny)
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Re:And if Samsung is the King... (Score:5, Insightful)
I would argue there biggest mistake was getting rid of the keyboard.
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HTC's mistakes were bootloader locking, not including microSD card slots or replaceable batteries in the One line, and getting rid of the Z line of keyboard phones. Associating themselves with Beats probably didn't help matters either.
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Nope. It's "fscked".
Why is the comparision made against the iPhone 4s? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Why is the comparision made against the iPhone (Score:5, Informative)
Becasue Q3 2012 is the last completed set of data available.
Re:Why is the comparision made against the iPhone (Score:5, Informative)
These are third quarter sales. If I'm not mistaken the iPhone 5 was a fourth quarter release.
Re:Why is the comparision made against the iPhone (Score:5, Informative)
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The iPhone 4 (no 's') is also on sale over that time period. I wonder if that might also be part of the numbers - iPhone sales were split between several models, including upcoming models. (Though the fact that an Android phone was right up there is still news.)
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Android has always "been up there" with the iPhone, though maybe not as the leader, but not far either, it's just that Android is broken up into many phone models, iphone only has a couple at a time usually. What this means is that more Androids of a single type of phone were sold than a single type of iphone (which probably accounted for most of the sales being the more recent one). It is a ways bias though since the S3 is a lot newer of a product than the iphone 4s.
Re:Why is the comparision made against the iPhone (Score:5, Informative)
Android marketshare was 75% of worldwide sales last quarter, compared to 15% for iOS. This time last year the numbers were 58% for Android and 14% for iOS.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57544131-94/android-beats-ios-5-to-1-in-q3-smartphone-market-share/ [cnet.com]
Re:Why is the comparision made against the iPhone (Score:4, Insightful)
So, if you compare all models of Android to all models of iPhone, people say it's unfair because "Apple has a single model", and if you compare a single model of Android to a single model of iPhone, it's unfair because "Apple has more than one model"? Interesting.
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The Galaxy S2 is also still for sale. They were comparing the current (at the time of the data set) flagship phone from Samsung against the current (and only model) from Apple.
They'd have to count the S2 sales as well in order to make a fair comparison. S2 phones dropped quite a bit in price, so they've likely moved a bunch of those too.
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You are mistaken. The iPhone 5 was released in Q3. That's why this includes the iPhone 5 in the sales figures it's comparing against the Samsung Galaxy SIII.
Face it, Apple fans, you're time has come. The iPhone is in decline, iOS 6 is an unmitigated disaster, and Android is going to reign supreme. The writing has always been on the wall, now it's finally coming to pass.
I do feel kind of bad for all the iPhone owners who are going to have to rebuy all their apps for Android in a few years, but - who am I kid
Re:Why is the comparision made against the iPhone (Score:5, Interesting)
I have all the iPhones except the iPhone 5. When IOS6 came out and I realised that not only did it have nothing I wanted, it also took away something I did. So I was never going to upgrade and decided now was the time to try the Galaxy SIII
I have had it about two months now and I have to say I had NO IDEA that IOS was so far behind. I have been genuinely shocked that Samsung and Google have been quietly putting so many great little features into the OS and I knew nothing about it. IOS is still pretty much in the same place it started from.
I loved my iPhones but Ill never go back.
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It is true that the article mentions the iPhone 5 sold 6 million units, but you claimed that that the actual comparison includes iPhone 5 sales and it doesn't. Just to be clear, they compared the 16 million iPhone 4S units sold to 18 million GS3 units sold when making the statement that the GS3 outsold the iPhone 4S. They could have compared the iPhone 5's 6 million units sold, but most thinking people would realize that's not a fair comparison because it was only on sale for a small part of Q3.
The iPhone 5
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Not even close. Samsung doubled up Apple last quarter, 56 million phones to 27 million.
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20121025007003/en/Smartphones-Drive-Quarter-Growth-Worldwide-Mobile-Phone [businesswire.com]
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Because the iPhone 4S is (was, actually) the current best selling phone by total (cumulative) numbers.In that sense, it's 100% fair to compare the two phones that sold the most units in the history of smartphones.
Maybe the iPhone will outsell the Galaxy S III, time will tell.
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I'm not sure where these numbers are coming from in general. Apple doesn't breakdown sales by device type, but did announce over 26 million iPhone sales in their fiscal Q3 2012 which ended in July, and 26.9 million in their fiscal Q4 2012 which ended a few weeks ago. Either way, the iPhone 4S number is pure analyst speculation since that data is not available.
Re:Why is the comparision made against the iPhone (Score:5, Funny)
I hope that was a humorous remark regarding the vast discrepancy between your user id and jandrese's. The alternative is just too ridiculous.
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It's also a hell of a lot cheaper than an iPhone or Galaxy model...
I'm interested in the Nexus 4 as well - it's reasonable hardware for around half the price of competitors. Considering I still have about 8GB free on my Galaxy S1, not having a SD card is a non-issue for my personally, and I'm likely not the only one that falls into that category.
Its simply a better phone (Score:4, Informative)
While I'm sure the apple maps thing didn't help, the SIII just seems more sleek and modern. I've had a few android phones and they've always seemed like "almost but not quite" compared to Apple. In this latest round, head to head with the IPhone5 you can't really make an argument based on interface, design, screen size, speed, app quality, etc. Its all there, and I can't help but feel like Apple got complacent. Android has seen revolutionary upgrades to its OS, IOS hasn't taken the big leaps and now they're paying for it.
But iPhone 5? (Score:3, Insightful)
The iPhone 5 will absolutely CRUSH in Q4. Not a hater. I'm one of the GS3's in that Q3 number. I was about to buy the iPhone 5 but then Amazon was selling the GS3 for $99 and got my attention. That was that.
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Projects are starting to show the it won't CRUSH it in Q4.
There just projects, so grain of salt. However, Apple is have supply issues, Samsung is not becasue Samsung has stronger tries to component and material supplies then Foxconn has.
And The difference between 4s and 5 isn't exactly that great. A trivial amount lighter, and slightly longer, and the requirement to buy all new device that physically connect to the device are all issues as well.
We will see.
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You missed the funniest part, the GP posted saying they didn't upgrade due to $$$ yet expect the most $$$ phone yet to win?
The S3 is 1/2 the price.
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No it won't CRUSH in Q4 which is why we keep hearing about how Foxxcon is having trouble making the iPhone5 and they are having trouble meeting demand ... so Apple will say that they didn't meet sales expectations because they couldn't get enough into the supply chain at the right time.
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Re:But iPhone 5? (Score:5, Interesting)
Yeah, but this is yet another data point along with Android-overtaking-iOS timeline. First it was all Android phones outselling iPhones for a quarter. Then it was all Android phones overtaking iPhones in market share, but the iPhone massively outselling any single Android phone. Now one Android phone outsold the iPhone for one quarter, if only for the worst iPhone quarter, but I'm expecting it to become more of a regular occurrence in the future.
Although a lot of people will be dismissing these numbers as irrelevant outside of fanboi dick-measuring, they do matter. The Android phone app ecosystem was far behind the iOS phone ecosystem until the Android marketshare started too large for it to be ignored, and now they are effectively equivalent. However, when it comes to physical phone accessories, iPhones are massively more supported then any Android phone (at least as far as I can tell from personal observation). Once certain Android phones start selling in numbers comperable to iPhones, the accessory support will follow.
Also, now that Google has started focusing on tablets, I'm expecting a similar pattern on those in the future.
Re:But iPhone 5? (Score:4, Insightful)
Numbers like this absolutely do matter outside fanboy circles. As I pointed out in another thread yesterday, Apple has lost 20% of it's share price in the 7 weeks since it hit it's all time high, shaving $130bn off the value of the company.
This figure has actually now increased to 22% including today's trading figures upping that dollar loss in value substantially more. Whether this is because of this news, or the story about them losing their Facetime patent battle I'm not sure:
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=AAPL+Interactive#symbol=aapl;range=20120919,20121108;compare=;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined [yahoo.com];
There seems little doubt Apple is faltering now, as their legal strategy has largely fallen flat in all but their own backyard too. The only question is whether they can do anything with next years product releases (iPad 4 and iPhone 6), or release any new devices in new markets to reverse the current trend. If they can't do that then I'd argue they're in pretty severe trouble, the vast majority of their profits are based on their mobile offerings right now. I imagine It'll be an interesting 2013 for those watching Apple one way or another, either a tragic plummet (if iPhone/iPad sales struggle they inherently suffer a risk of iTunes store content and app purchases plummeting too) or an impressive comeback.
Either way, the tides have certainly changed against Apple this last month or two for the time being at least, despite two new major product releases.
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iPhone 5 comes with:
* Apple Maps and access to Google Maps, with a large number of options for other map apps (that can can be downloaded), both free and paid.
You're using Apple Maps [forbes.com] as a selling feature? Meanwhile, Androids come with Google Maps out of the box, as well as Google Navigation, which supports voice instructions, and there are a similarly large number of other map/navigation apps available for Android.
While your point is that IOS can hold its own against Android, it's a bit silly to use Apple Maps as the first point of comparison....
* Uses a USB charger, charges off anything with a USB port (note that USB is not proprietary), and a micro-USB adapter is also available so you can charge it off a Galaxy SIII charger if you really want.
USB isn't proprietary, but the connector at the other end of the cable is. If your cable is damaged or lost, you need t
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Edit: Bah, looks like I messed up the quotes. My text is indented.
iPhone 5 comes with:
* Apple Maps and access to Google Maps, with a large number of options for other map apps (that can can be downloaded), both free and paid.
You're using Apple Maps [forbes.com] as a selling feature? Meanwhile, Androids come with Google Maps out of the box, as well as Google Navigation, which supports voice instructions, and there are a similarly large number of other map/navigation apps available for Android.
While your point is that IOS can hold its own against Android, it's a bit silly to use Apple Maps as the first point of comparison....
Absolutely. For the 99.5% of times when it's not "epically failing" (and being corrected), it works very well. The whole "zomg look how bad it is, you'll end up in a lake!" stuff is amusing, but ultimately overblown. And, as I pointed out right after it, I noted that Google Maps is also available on iOS 6, along with many other apps to choose from if you think Apple Maps will "epically fail". For the majority of people, however, it is
* Uses a USB charger, charges off anything with a USB port (note that USB is not proprietary), and a micro-USB adapter is also available so you can charge it off a Galaxy SIII charger if you really want.
USB isn't proprietary, but the connector at the other end of the cable is. If your cable is damaged or lost, you need to buy a replacement cable from Apple, and pay for the privilege. If you lose or damage the cable for any Android phone I've ever used, you can use *any* MicroUSB cable from any other device you own, or can buy one very cheaply from any number of people selling them.
I didn't address the Lightning connector (or the previous incarnation, the 30 pin dock connector), merely that the GP said that Apple's charger was proprietary and that (I quote) "not compatible with any other brand", when it's obvious to anyone who has actually used an iPhone that it will charge off all sorts of third party branded chargers, and that you can charge other phones and devices off an Apple charger if you like since it has a USB port on it. It's no accident that the "non-phone" end of the cable is a USB plug, and that the cord is removable from the charger.
* Doesn't have removable memory card, no, but this has allegedly been a missing "killer feature" from every iOS device ever sold, and doesn't seem to be slowing down sales.
Some Android phones don't have removable memory cards. Mine d
The Galaxy S III is nice, but.... (Score:3)
...there are better phones, IMHO. For instance, the Samsung Galaxy Note II - gorgeous 5" super-AMOLED display, powerful hardware (CPU+RAM) and stylus input - perfection.
There's even a docking station to connect it to keyboard, mouse and monitor. It's just the kind of phone that keeps a nerd happy.
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Hmmm, the fact that this is the top seller implies that maybe, just maybe, bigger displays and more powerful hardware isn't necessarily what sells phones.
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The Note II sold 3.000.000 phones already, even though not all US carriers introduced it, yet. It's more successful than you seem to believe.
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The Note II sold 3.000.000 phones already, even though not all US carriers introduced it, yet. It's more successful than you seem to believe.
Very impressive, particularly since the Note II is WAY over the $199 'sweet spot' for smartphones.
I bought a S III last weekend, I had to call 8 stores to find one in stock for my carrier (Sprint) because they are selling so fast. And I live in an area that doesn't even have LTE coverage yet.
Re:The Galaxy S III is nice, but.... (Score:5, Interesting)
I just bought one on T-Mobile - most amazing piece of technology I've ever owned. Absolutely stunning.
At first I was worried that the whole Pen thing would be a useless gimmick, but I use the damn thing all the time. For jotting down quick notes, it's actually as usable as carrying around a paper notebook, which has always been the bar I've measured these things against.
In all the technology I've owned over the years, PDA's, tablets, smartphones etc... they've never given me the ability to do away with paper/pencil notebook. This actually has, which is fantastic.
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Are you talking about the Galaxy Note II? The GS3 does not come with a stylus, although you can buy one for it.
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I don't know about you, but I wear regular size 32" pants and it fits in my pocket just fine.
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iPhone 4s? (Score:5, Insightful)
How did the GSIII fare against the iPhone 4s plus the iPhone 5 numbers? Seems to me to be a more fair comparison....
grnbrg.
Re:iPhone 4s? (Score:5, Insightful)
How did the GSIII fare against the iPhone 4s plus the iPhone 5 numbers? Seems to me to be a more fair comparison....
And many people postponed an iPhone 4S purchase because they knew the iPhone 5 was going to be shipped. So it doesn't seem a pertinent period of time to do such a comparison.
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Wait, so you want to compare one model (GSIII) against two models (4S + 5)? That would seem to skew the numbers even more. If you're going to go that route, do all Samsung phones vs all Apple phones or all Android vs all iOS, etc.
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I agree. It would not be a fair comparison to simply add together the sales figures for both iPhone models against a single Samsung model. That'd be silly and a somewhat dishonest comparison.
That said, these numbers, while fair and accurate, don't really paint an accurate overall picture, given that many people were waiting for the inevitable release of the iPhone 5 and that many would-be iPhone 4S sales became iPhone 5 sales after its release. I would think that a better comparison would be to compare sal
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Becasue normally you compare versions with versions. Not 'all of every version.
If you are going to compare every version of iPhone sold in Q3, then you need to compare every version of android phone Samsung sold in Q3.
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Why? Did Samsung transition from the SIII to something else I'm that quarter? Even if you add the Note and Note Ii to the SIII sales it is less than the 4S+5.. You really going to count all of Samsungs feature phones and pretend like it is the same thing.
Re:iPhone 4s? (Score:5, Informative)
Galaxy S3: 18 million
iPhone 4GS: 16.2 million
iPhone 5: 6 million
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Add a little over 5 million. So 21.2M vs. the GS3's 18M.
4th quarter sales will be whatever number they can build. Considering that they are selling every one they make, their "market share" is as high as it could possibly be.
That said, I've been buying AAPL puts (the right to sell at a given price) this week, as none of this matters in the short run.
It will take Apple some time to gets
meh (Score:3)
"Samsungs' time at the top will be short-lived however, as Apple's iPhone 5 is expected to regain the title to top-selling smartphone in the December quarter."
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And if you count the iPhone 5 in the September quarter Apple sold 22 million of the 4S and 5. The summary could not have been more misleading had they tried. Oh wait. They did try.
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Steve! (Score:2, Insightful)
Burn, karma burn! Let thy fumes rise to heaven. Like from sweet smelling incense. Let us drink and be merry.
I have to wonder... (Score:5, Funny)
Shipments != sales (Score:3)
From the court case, we saw that Samsung lies about how many it has "shipped". Colour me unimpressed.
Simon
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It seems likely that Samsung dumped a bunch into the channel during the transition quarter so they could get an analyst to write this story and get some positive press.
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No, they could not possibly have dumped any bunches into the channel. Because every single quarter, all these ~Apple zealots~ experts tell me that Samsung is shipping way more than are being sold. So by this point, all the warehouses must be full. It is not possible to dump anything more into the channel.
I hear they've just installed a big conveyor belt that takes the phones right as they come off the factory production lines, and it takes them straight to the nearest garbage dump. Their business strategy i
So you meant to add (Score:2)
Kind of...
Do you guys want another monopoly? (Score:5, Insightful)
I can understand why some people don't want to get an iPhone, but to see comments about how Android will somehow take over and get the most market share is frightening.
The last thing we need is yet another OS monopoly. I'd be happy to see 33% Android users, 33% iPhone users, 16% Blackberry users and 16% WebOS users.
Or is the majority of posters so young that they didn't live through or at least read about how OS monopolies are bad?
Dear Apple ... (Score:3)
Dear Apple,
I am a huge fan that has been left underwhelmed recently. Here's what you need to do to turn things around:
1. You need to offer more selection of "new" iPhones. I want to be able to choose from different new models, new colours, and new price points. You let me do this with iPods ... even iPads now ... so why is there only ever "one" new iPhone???
2. iOS6. When I got my iPhone 5 I upgraded from iOS3. And to my surprise not much has changed. Many things got worse somehow - feeling clunky with lots of bloat. Siri is useless, Maps took a wrong turn, the Interface hasn't changed at all and the Settings Menu is really unorganized compared to OSX System Prefs for instance.
3. The screen size. You should have made it proportionally larger. So do that next time. Otherwise most Apps run smaller, Videos look smaller, Photos look smaller. Everything actually looks smaller on the bigger screen.
(to everyone saying then it wouldn't fit in your hand - take a look at the iPad Mini photos which is massive compared to the iPhone and still fits in one hand).
4. Laptop pricing. I used to be able to get a 13" MacBook for about $1000.
Now the only laptop under $1000 is 11" (way too small for everyday business use) and everything else is overpriced. I don't mind paying more for Apple products because I do believe the experience is better - however your laptop pricing is ridiculous these days. I am in teh market for a new laptop and I don't understand why they are so much more expensive now?
5. OSX ... I love it. But it's starting to feel like you are losing focus on that too. Launchpad is umm... blah. F12 widgets whatever that is I never use (what's with all these hidden secondary desktops??). The App Store on OSX feels half-baked. Moving the Software Update into the App store makes things harder to use. Overall a bit of a fail the past few releases.
6. iPad Mini, should have been retina. iPod is retina, iPhone is retina, new iPad is retina, MacBooks are moving to Retina ... wtf?
Anyhow get more iPhone selection, fix the laptop pricing, and refocus your OS's ... and things will be good again.
Thanks!
Yeah but... (Score:2)
Regardless, I don't understand why some people want their device to "kill" the competition. Must be some sort of self-identity complex that I am not smart enough to understand. Competition breeds innovation. Ideally these 2 companies will start one-upping each other and consumers on both sides will win.
Yes it is (Score:2)
There are more iPhones in the world than any other smartphone. I'd say that makes it the best selling one.
History repeats itself (Score:4, Insightful)
Google has taken a page from the Microsoft play book. Android is already way bigger than IOS. IOS market share is dropping even while raw sales are expanding. Android has parity in usability and features. The top Android phone has sales parity with the top Apple phone. The Android ecosystem is just going to expand.
As long as Apple earns massive margins on their product, more and more competitors will enter the market. This will reduce prices and steal more of Apple's customers. Many Android phone's have quality equivalent to the iPhone, and sometimes are in different ways better. Microsoft is now entering the market as a serious competitor. Apple knows this and they are pissing in their boots, They are lashing out the only way they know: litigation; just like before. They may have "invented" the smartphone or pioneered the market, but they are doomed by sheer numbers of competitors. They know it. Unless Apple can pull the next "big thing" out of their asses, they will fall back again. And Jobs won't be around to save them next time.
Bit misleading (Score:3)
New data released on Thursday by market research firm Strategy Analytics finds that Samsung's Galaxy S III was the world's top-selling smartphone model in the third quarter this year, displacing Apple's iPhone for the first time in years.
... during the quarter in which Apple had announced that the iPhone 5 was coming soon, so people held off buying the iPhone 4S. In fact, if you add the iPhone 5 sales to the iPhone 4S sales for the quarter, the result tops the Galaxy S III by 4 million.
Re:Purse Phone (Score:5, Funny)
this message was brought to you by the small hands brigade.
Re:Purse Phone (Score:5, Interesting)
I disagree about the size. I own the Galaxy S2 Touch and look forward to upgrading. In terms of size my phone is roughly comparable to the S3. I've never been uncomforartable with the phone in my pocket. Now the Note on the other hand is pretty friggin huge, but it sells so people must like it.
I agree with you regarding the iPhone being pretty crappy, especially the 5. I hate typing on the tiny screen on one of my kid's iTouch screens. The iPhone 5's slightly larger screen is still small compared to most smart phones.
The Iphone 5 is just more of the same-old from Apple. Slightly better specs under the hood, but not a lot for the average user to get excited about. Where's the innovation?
Apple is becoming a follower instead of a leader.
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What ideas implemented by iPhone would you say were original?
Re:Purse Phone (Score:5, Informative)
So you're saying the iPhone has NFC file transfer? Where's your SD card slot? How about a standard micro USB connector instead of the Apple proprietary plugs? Apple's much vaunted "retina display" is 1,136 x 640 and lower resolution than the Galaxy S3's 1,280 x 720 resolution. iPhone requires you to install iTunes to access your phone from your PC (and screw you, Linux users). Samsung, like all android phones, just plugs in and acts as a USB drive. Or you can wireless tether to your PC with an Android. The iPhone 5's camera is 8mp and has ugly purple flair problems, G S3 is also 8mp and features image stabilization. G S3 has longer battery life than the iPhone 5. Where the iPhone's stylus pen? How about showing me some sweet widgets or desktop mods on you iPhone? Let's see you install 3rd party apps without rooting your phone.
You think this is just about screen size? You're not paying attention.
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You're half correct.
The GP said nothing about USB mass storage. To the average user when you plug in a GS3, even in MTP mode, it still acts as a USB drive.
The lack of linux support for MTP is a failing of linux, not a failing of the device. Have a read about why Google changed it, and it makes sense.
It is not a major fail. The major fail was that you had to have 2 partitions on your phone so that one of them could be unmounted in order to use USB mass storage. You therefore couldn't access any files on the
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That is my only real complaint against it. For a phone, I am looking for a compact size with a decent, high resolution screen. I don't want a "phablet", I want something that stuffs in my pocket easily.
So far, the best device I had in the form factor department was the venerable Motorola CLIQ. The screen isn't as big as a Droid X's or an iPhone 5's, but the phone is small enough to comfortable go in a back pocket, and with a sliding keyboard, texting (or just using it as a UNIX terminal) was very easy to
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I really doubt you are rolling on the floor laughing.
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(S)He meant ROFLYSST [youtu.be]
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Do they take into account that a lot of people were probably waiting for the release of the iPhone 5?
No more than they take into account all the people who are waiting for the latest Nexus.
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..the iphone 5 comes out partway through...
Partway through Q3 (the period this report covers)? I must have missed that, what was the date it launched?
I mean, I thought my colleague was a real fanboi ordering asap and getting one in Q4, but are you telling me you had a super-secret fanboi source who got you one in Q3? cool... what's the URL again?.. I'll pass it along to our local fanboi (if he ever gets off the phone, stops social networking, and does some real work).
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The iPhone 5 released on 9/21 announced about a week earlier.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2206143/iPhone-5-release-day-2012-Apple-fans-Sydney-New-York-finally-hands-latest-iPhone.html [dailymail.co.uk]
I can provide over 1000 more links if you like. You seem confused. Apple sold (to customers) 6 million iPhone 5s in the period this report covers. If you RTFA you would know that.
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HTC did the same thing with the One X. If I understand it correctly, it had something to do with the Tegra 3 chipset not being compatible with LTE radios or something like that. I personally tracked down an International HTC One X. Cost me the same as a non-contract US HTC One X but I got twice the internal storage, quad core cpu, and a gpu that's at least as fast as the one in the US HTC One X.
And no, I don't miss LTE support. HSPA+ works just fine for me.
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Care to tell me where I can get my hands on one of these free Galaxy S IIIs you speak of? Everywhere I have looked they cost quite a bit.
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