Apple Confirms iPhone 5 Preorders Top 2 Million In 24 Hours 428
TheBoat writes "Apple announced on Monday that iPhone 5 preorders topped 2 million units in the smartphone's first 24 hours of pre-sale availability. That figure doubles Apple's first-day iPhone 4S sales last year, making the iPhone 5 Apple's fastest-selling smartphone ever. 'iPhone 5 pre-orders have shattered the previous record held by iPhone 4S and the customer response to iPhone 5 has been phenomenal,' Apple marketing boss Philip Schiller said."
Wow. (Score:2, Insightful)
Not a troll, just interesting to see the enormous difference in preorder sales between two companies that are constantly at each others' throats.
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Right but, are we talking about units sold or units shipped. Apple consistently uses units sold to my knowledge, and then after that it's a crapshoot without additional information.
Re:Wow. (Score:5, Informative)
Right but, this article was written by the same guy who yesterday wrote this:
"Well, the only thing even more predictable than response to the iPhone 5 was the fact that preorders would sell out quickly."
Stop letting this asswipe use slashdot to drive hits on his stories.
Re:Wow. (Score:5, Informative)
No kidding. If you look at his profile: https://slashdot.org/~TheBoat/ [slashdot.org], you'll note that it has no posts, just submissions, and they're all to the articles on the same site.
He's not a member of the Slashdot community, he's a parasite looking to make money from it.
Re:Wow. (Score:5, Informative)
Ja. "Phones shipped" is a crap metric because a lot of those phones sold just sit on store shelves and don't get sold. "Phones sold" tell you how many are actually being bought an used by consumers.
Ex., the Samsung Galaxy Tab. Before the recent court case, Samsung was reporting Galaxy Tab *shipment in the millions* (or was it tens of millions? I forget). Then the court forced them to report actual sales and it turned out that Samsung had only sold 1.4 million tablets total over 18 months. Apple sold ~30 million iPads over the same period.
If a company says, "we shipped X" but won't report "we sold X," it's probably because most of their gear is gathering dust down at the Best Buy.
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The way they get around this is to track units shipped. If products sit on the shelf a certain time (or is returned as defective), the retailer then sends them back (or somet
Re:Wow. (Score:5, Informative)
We're talking about the first 24 hours here, US only and directly from consumers. Galaxy S3's 9 million pre-orders was over a longer period, worldwide and pre-orders by carriers. You're comparing apples and lemons.
Re:Wow. (Score:5, Informative)
We're talking about the first 24 hours here, US only and directly from consumers. Galaxy S3's 9 million pre-orders was over a longer period, worldwide and pre-orders by carriers. You're comparing apples and lemons.
Galaxy S3 did not have 9 million preorders. Samsung confirmed it took just under 2 months to sell 10 million.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57477475-94/samsung-galaxy-s3-hits-10-million-sales-mark-early/ [cnet.com]
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Galaxy S3 did not have 9 million preorders. Samsung confirmed it took just under 2 months to sell 10 million.
It was reported as such, which I assume GP was talking about : Samsung S3: 9 million pre-order new Galaxy phone [telegraph.co.uk].
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retail release is this friday. they always sell more at retail than online.
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They won't break 9mil. Whatever fruit you want to talk about.
Re:Wow. (Score:5, Funny)
You're comparing apples and lemons.
Actually, I believe he was comparing apples and samsungs.
Re:Wow. (Score:5, Funny)
Exactly.
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>>> Galaxy S3's 9 million pre-orders was over a longer period, worldwide and pre-orders by carriers.
And that was just one of MANY Android devices. :)
HTC, Motorola, LG, etc....
After the quick frenzy of this occasional apple upgrade, the numbers will go back to being Android heavy.
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You're comparing apples and lemons.
No, we're comparing Apple fantics to lemmings.
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Lighten up, it's a joke.
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After looking at the specs of the 4S and the 5, I don't understand why anyone would even care about upgrading beyond it being a fashion statement. Especially since it doesn't even fit directly into current iPhone "accessories", which are one of the few real benefits to having an iPod/iPhone.
Re:Wow. (Score:4, Interesting)
Some people will, because they always want the latest and the best. But there are a lot of people like me (with an iPhone 4) or my little sister (who has a 3GS) who are eligible for the full subsidy and for whom it's a major upgrade. For me it's much faster, includes Siri, and a much better camera. For my little sister it's vastly faster, includes a retina display, Siri, a vastly better camera, it's thinner, etc.
Not everyone ordering is coming off a 4S. I'd imagine most are coming from the 4 or below.
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I'd imagine most are coming from the 4 or below.
I've got a iPhone 3G and the 5 is looking like a pretty nice upgrade.
Apple sold about 74 million iPhones by the end of fiscal 2010. I'm sure some have upgraded but a lot of people are probably still carrying around a 3G, 3GS or 4 and are finally ready to upgrade to the latest, with a new service contract.
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Yes I too still have the 3G (was stuck in a 3-year contract) and just pre-ordered the iPhone 5 which compared to the 3G is going to be a night and day kind of upgrade !!!
I would imagine any legacy customers will using the 3G / 3GS will take the opportunity to upgrade for sure.
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Not everyone ordering is coming off a 4S. I'd imagine most are coming from the 4 or below.
And all those people who didn't want a 4 or 4S ... they simply *HAD* to order their 5 on the first day, right? They couldn't possibly wait any longer than that.
Uhuh.
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The problem is that iPhones have historically sold out and then remain hard to get for a few weeks after. So if you want a newly released iPhone, you have to either get in really early, stand in line all day at a store, or wait about a month or more.
For me, leaving AT&T is a huge deal. I was still on AT&T when I bought the 4 two years ago and I simply cannot take another day with these idiot fraudsters. So I wanted to jump on the new phone ASAP and not have to deal with standing in line.
Plus, my
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The problem is that iPhones have historically sold out and then remain hard to get for a few weeks after. So if you want a newly released iPhone, you have to either get in really early, stand in line all day at a store, or wait about a month or more.
And the rest of us really have to give you beta testers a hand. Thanks for all the hard work!
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Funny you mention that. I have two friends who both have older iPhones (a 3GS and a 4) and who preordered. One (with an iPhone 4) because he's on AT&T, and his contract recently expired, and now that he's off contract, wants to switch to Verizon. The other (with the 3GS) is simply looking for a faster-and-better model, and has been grousing for months about the slow performance of his old 3GS, but was holding out for the iPhone 5 to be released to upgrade, figuring he'd move to the "latest & grea
Re:Wow. (Score:5, Insightful)
Probably no one would upgrade from the 4S, even though it does have twice as much RAM, a CPU that's twice as fast, a GPU that's twice as fast, a bigger screen, ...
But upgrades from the 4 or the 3GS... Almost certainly tons of people.
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i secretly pre-ordered one for my wife because her 4 is already off contract. she wasn't interested until i told her it has a much better camera especially for low light photos and dedicated CPU space for better photo quality. when you have 2 kids things like this matter. not rooting and tooting and staying up all night getting excited by cryptic commands on a black background
Re:Wow. (Score:5, Funny)
when you have 2 kids things like this matter. not rooting and tooting and staying up all night getting excited...
That is how you got the 2 kids if I am not mistaken.
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I think they are people with iPhone 3 something and less with the iPhone 4. those with the 4S probably are not rushing to upgrade, except for the must have everything new crowd.
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Plus, there are some low-level security features which can't hurt. The iPhone 4S and newer use a better salting technique preventing the passcode hash from being copied off [1] (although a four digit PIN copied off will be cracked quickly no matter what [2].)
[1]:http://www. [informationweek.com]
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If that concerns you, you can use Apple's free iPhone
Configuration Utility to create and add a profile that requires a longer passcode. You keep the numeric keypad, but your code can be an arbitrary length. You also get an "O
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Re:Wow. (Score:5, Interesting)
Honestly, I don't mind the hardware not being "top notch" on my crusty ol' iPhone 4 - having to develop web sites for both Android (various devices from phones to tablets to phablets) and iOS, I can say that almost every Android device is terrible. Not for a lack of good specs or power, but because the OS as a whole is flimsy, unpredictable (I have phones that are fairly new and only have 2.3.1 wtf; the tablet is running HONEY COMB; another phone is running 4.0), and usually seems to at least respond with a noticeable lag. Just rotating the display when in the browser seems to cause a jump, a wait, and finally the catch up to the display being set - it's cute that they do the little "whoa there I'm being rotated lol it tickles!" animation, but in the end I just want the damn thing to be landscape and quickly.
Android seems like a great OS, but by-and-large it seems the best Android ROMs are those that aren't officially distributed by phone manufacturers, where the community has time and again improved stability and performance in the kernel that would be awesome to see on the general consumer side. What good are 5,000,000 cores if your OS experience is bogged down by "well, it works" mentality to drivers and "ooooohhh shiny" on the UI side?
Apple tends to win out here when the hardware on the phone is tightly woven to the internals of the OS - they can balance shiny and functional. After two years, my 4 is still kicking, still performing great, and all on crap specs by today's standards. I find it more responsive than my bosses new HTC whatevermajig with ICS.
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I had a RAZR 3G. When the original iPhone was announced I was all ready to pick it up... touch screen, games, music, what was not to love? Then I saw that it didn't have 3G, so I would drop from 3.6mbps max to 0.384 max on EDGE. Not happening... so disappointed.
3G wouldn't show up on iPhone for a full 2 years after I already had it on the RAZR.
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I'm buying it. After taxes it's $252. I can (and will) sell an iPhone 4 for $170, so it's only $82 for the upgrade. For $82, I get a much better phone than the one I have now. Combine this with the fact that my iPhone 4's home button is starting to stick, and it's a no-brainer.
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There's a fix for sticking and non-responsive home buttons involving force-quitting a core app (resets something somehow) and shutting down your phone and depressing and then wiping the whole button area thoroughly with alcohol and a q-tip (esp around the edges)... let dry, boot back up. I did both of these with mine last July and it's been like new ever since.
The first step sounds like voodoo, but I did it and immediately the button was working again. I only did the second step as well because it seemed
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Did you fail to see the irony of your post before you hit submit? Anyway, I'm not complaining so much as musing. And as for Facebook/YouTube comments from the general public.. don't get me started ;)
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I was talking from the point of view of people who already have an iPhone. They already have "a nice bit of kit that works extremely well at what it does". There is very little reason to upgrade to the new version. The best reason someone has given so far is for a better camera.
For people who actually care about picture quality though, I think even the cheapest point and shoot cameras do things better, from my own experience..
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I was talking from the point of view of people who already have an iPhone. They already have "a nice bit of kit that works extremely well at what it does". There is very little reason to upgrade to the new version. The best reason someone has given so far is for a better camera.
For people who actually care about picture quality though, I think even the cheapest point and shoot cameras do things better, from my own experience..
Wrong metric: the point of phone cameras has always been that you always have them with you. Obviously given prep time I can always get a better quality camera somewhere, but it's (a) potentially very expensive and (b) I need to know in advance what I'm doing.
Whereas I always have my cellphone, and it has internet connectivity as much as possible. Making that cellphone camera as good as possible is important purely because when something important does happen, chances are it's all I'll have on me.
Re:Wow. (Score:4, Informative)
Yes, unless the user was for example a gamer, 3D artist or video editor..
Most iPhone games are like console games though, they're designed to work with a very limited set of hardware, and as such should already be running fast enough. Considering not everyone has a 4S, they're probably designed to work well even on an iPhone 4 at least.
I did recently buy a new Android tablet simply for the better screen and faster processor - but that was to go from something like 1200x800 to 1920x1200, which is quite a significant difference for watching videos and reading. Funnily enough, my old tablet still feels nicer to use because my new one doesn't have Jelly Bean and its "Project Butter" yet. Despite the hardware being faster, the UI actually feels less responsive!
Re:Wow. (Score:5, Insightful)
Actually for me, they're a computer manufacturer selling well-built, well-integrated Unix desktops and laptops, and phones and tablets that are largely zero-hassle to operate. Don't imagine that your logic applies to all, or even most, cases.
I think the sorriest traits I see in my fellow humans are:
1) their obsession with what other people do with the money they earn;
2) their lack of appreciation for tools which save time, which is often more valuable to the owner of the tool than any extra cost incurred in purchasing the tool itself;
But you know, that's just me.
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Well that's an awful convenient canned response. Please demonstrate that my statement is after the fact rationalization? Then proceed to show me a Unix laptop that's built to the same quality as a Macbook Pro, and runs a Unix distribution that will be reliable, stable, and won't require me to dick with settings constantly to keep it running. Every Linux system I've ever tried has failed those 3 tests - either it's cheap plasticky garbage that breaks down wi
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Fact: The price of the iPhone is pretty much in line with any other "flagship" smart phone from other manufacturers. Go look, I can wait.
Fact: All the rest of your whining is apparently rooted in your need to demonstrate that you're "smarter," or "more discerning," or "something" than other people. I'm sorry you were bullied as a child, but I doubt that anybody at Apple was the one to do it, so, get over it, okay?
Fact: You've spent far too long out of your basement already. You should probably go back
Re:Wow. (Score:4, Insightful)
I don't get this kind of hatred for the iPhone. It's as unreasoning as the fanboys' slavish gushing praise. The iPhone is a well made, well designed piece of electronic gear. It functions superbly. Is it overpriced? Maybe. But then any object is worth only what you can get people to pay for it. I think maybe for some it's the status, for some the sleek design and for others the slick OS that functions superbly. Regardless it keeps on succeeding time after time despite all the ranting from so many apple haters. I've seen a lot of Droid users opt for an iPhone after playing with a 4S and I've seen a lot of Droid users give it a pass 'cause they are happy with what they've got. It's great to have the choice though, really.
Re:Wow. (Score:4, Interesting)
The iPhone is a well made, well designed piece of electronic gear. It functions superbly. Is it overpriced?
Yes, yes, it is overpriced, since the vast majority of Android phones in the $200 with contract price range are also well-made, well-designed pieces of electronic gear, yet offer more bang for the buck.
Until the iPhone 5, pretty much every Android "smartphone" had a bigger screen, most had close to or as many pixels on that screen, all had better cameras, almost all had more storage for the same price (and all could be expanded cheaply if necessary). In addition, for the normal usage pattern of phone, some Internet browsing/video streaming, music, social networking/staying in contact/texting (including taking and sharing pictures), games, and downloading/installing apps, both Android and iOS are pretty damn easy to use. For some edge cases, one or the other is easier, but this isn't most people.
The iPhone 5 also costs $200. (Score:3)
How is it overpriced when it costs the same as the other phones?
The overpriced myth is possibly the most hilarious anti-Apple meme because it is so provably untrue. The meme is also indefensible when compared to the price spectrum on lots of other products. Plenty of people don't buy the cheapest car they can find; and in fact they routinely pay 30-100% more than the cheapest for largely aesthetic reasons, and those people are not subject to the same kind reductive criticism which Slashdotters heap on iPho
OSX is a complete UNIX system. (Score:3)
You kinda make yourself look like an idiot for implying that Linux is somehow more UNIX than an actual UNIX system. OSX can do anything that any other UNIX system can do.
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I did find the wikipedia page for the Samsung Galaxy S III [wikipedia.org], which lists 9 million pre-orders from Carriers in the first 2 weeks based on an anonymous Samsung Official. They then compare this to the 4 million pre-sales of the iPhone 4S. I found no citation for the pre-sale rates for iPhone, but the wikipedia page for the iPhone 4S [wikipedia.org] claims 4 million sold (to customers?) in the first 3 days of availability.
Compare that
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Just to clarify, the iPhone 5 isn't available yet, so the first two weeks for comparison doesn't start until 9/21. Pre-orders are considered "sold" on 9/21 and will be wrapped into "first day" sales I believe. I'm not exactly sure how preorders that won't ship until weeks 1-3 are counted. Are they "sales" on 9/21, or the date they ship? I'd guess 9/21, because they will word it however they need to so that they have the biggest number on launch day.
It's all really marketing.
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Uhh no, Samsung quoted "hundreds of thousands" of preorders within the first 24 hours. 9 million in total before it launched.
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Re:Wow. (Score:5, Insightful)
Wow. Someone who gets it.
Platform isn't about some magical choice between closed and open source. Its not some walled garden vs free for all marketplaces.
People buy a phone that works for them. Once they buy into a platform, once you start factoring in software (apps) and the cost of that, people are reluctant to change.
iOS and Andriod both have their strengths and weaknesses. Blind rabid fanatacism towards either is stupid. Oooh, my device had 20 billion preorders in 60 days, yours only has 1 billion in 3 days, look how awesome mine is, blah blah blah.
Fuck you. You're all a bunch of hypocritical assholes with blind devotion to your platform of choice. Blah blah fucking blah.
I USE my smartphone. I don't give a fuck what OS it runs.
Its the fucking sports world of the geeks. The Cupertino iPhonies against the Mountain View Androdgynies. Going to the game, wearing your jersey & screaming in orgasmic delight every time your team scores just makes you a corporate stooge.
It doesn't matter who wins...just that they keep playing. At least then consumers win.
Re:Wow. (Score:5, Informative)
Because it's an indicator of how likely support is going to continue in the future. All these companies selling crappy Android based phones for next to no profit are never going to support them. Apple will provided support and updates, etc.
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They provide bug fixes. Not updates. 3GS and 4 won't get all the goodness of iOS 6. Let's not pretend they are still getting an update.
Also don't forget Google didn't need to provide a lot of updates (notice i didn't say bugfixes) because it had features that iOS lacked for ages, like the newly touted turn-by-turns directions, Google-earth ripoff, poor man's version of cloud functionality as opposed to badass Google's implementation, etc.
How current iPhone users see the iPhone 5 (Score:5, Funny)
http://www.imgur.com/Pp7xC.jpeg [imgur.com]
Re:How current iPhone users see the iPhone 5 (Score:5, Insightful)
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A sucker born every minute? (Score:4, Funny)
By my calculations it's actually 1389 (rounded up) every minute.
Perspective (Score:2, Interesting)
Let's keep some perspective here. They only sell one model at a time. All of the other vendors sell multiple models at the same time. The implication is that this is somehow the leading phone ecosystem or some such thing. In reality Apple doesn't even sell as many smart phones as Samsung alone [huffingtonpost.com], never mind all of the other vendors.
Android has 68% of the worldwide market compared to 17% for apple, which slipped from 19% a year before. Look I'm all for personal choice, I think apple has some pretty neat things
Re:Perspective (Score:5, Informative)
They sell three models at any given time. It was the 3GS, 4, and 4S and now it's the 4, 4S, and 5. I just ordered a "free" 4 for my wife to replace her 3GS.
Re:Perspective (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.marketnews.ca/content/index/page?pid=11889 [marketnews.ca]
Most of Android marketshare comes from prepaid and free-after-subsidy low end phones with no margin. This is why every Android manufacturer combined times 4 doesn't equal only Apple's profit.
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I like it how fanbois point out Apple's huge margin on iPhone as something to be proud of. "Hey, check it out how they overpriced it and still we buy it in bunches! Ain't it amazing?"
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I wouldn't call $199 overpriced?
Re:Perspective (Score:5, Insightful)
Apple 5 will be $199? I think not.
$199 might be the subsidised price a phone company will sell you a branded, locked down version as long as you sign up for a 2 year plan. Actually for that deal I would even call $199 overpriced.
Now try and just buy the phone without all of that. It'll be like $600.
Re:Perspective (Score:4, Informative)
Actually I just checked.
Unlocked iPhone 5 Price: $649 (16GB), $749 (32GB) and $849 (64GB).
With a two-year contract, iphone 5 Price: $199 (16GB), $299 (32GB) and $399 (64GB).
$849 for a phone? hell yeah its overpriced.
Re:Perspective (Score:4, Interesting)
Same price as an unlocked Galaxy SIII.
It's weird - it's like really small electronic devices with miniature computers inside and a large touch screen are expensive to make or something.
Who knew?!
Or maybe Samsung is copying the iPhone's price? *ducks*
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The hateboi mantra of "overpriced" seems like a pretty weak way to argue against something. Nice things cost money, and usually in a non-linear way. That's how the world is.
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This argument is undercut by the post above. Apple sells older versions of its phones at lower price points. Currently iPhones range from top tier (5) to free with plan (formerly 3GS, now will be 4). Same as Android phones. So no you can't argue that Android's greater market share is because they're giving the phones away for free. They give iPhones away for free too.
Both types of phones now compet
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Around the world lots of carriers offer heavy minute/SMS and lite on data plans. I've read of some plans in the 200mb range.
I bet a lot of these worldwide android sales are like that. Just a replacement for the old BREW phones
I was going to buy my wife's 80 year old grandma a droid just for the huge screen to replace her landline and put her on the family plan with us. She's never been on the Internet or even sent a text it she might get a gmail and google plus account soon
Re:Perspective (Score:4, Insightful)
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You hit the nail on the head. This is a repeat of the PC wars all over again. A smart phone is just a small PC that happens to make phone calls.
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I assure you that I have been anti-hype and anti-marketing for decades. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Only Apple Store preorders (Score:2)
And the electronic garbage pile expands (Score:4, Insightful)
Let's stop putting money into these closed systems.
Only open systems can help reduce e-waste (just look at Linux, which can actually breathe new life into an old i386).
Re:And the electronic garbage pile expands (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm not convinced that keeping an old i386 alive is such a good idea from an environmental point of view. If you get a $25 Raspberry Pi, the added waste to the landfill is not more than a single ISA card from the i386 (e.g. to add network capabilities), but it runs on 3.5 Watts instead of 120. So yes, it is possible to keep old i386 alive with Linux, and no, there is not much point in doing so except the smug "because I can".
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Granted, I exaggerated a little. But it depends of course on how often you use your computer, and how much garbage an old machine produces.
My point was that buying a new gadget every other year produces garbage that can be avoided. Open systems can extend the useful lifetime of a product.
Also consider that if I need an app that exists only on iOS, and an app that exists only on Android, I have to buy TWO phones. Again, predominance of open systems may solve this.
Re:And the electronic garbage pile expands (Score:5, Insightful)
Yeah, that's worked well for Android handsets, most of which can't be upgraded, or if lucky maybe once! Versus "evil closed Apple!" who on the 19th will be releasing iOS 6, including for the 3+ year old iPhone 3GS. And Apple actually has done a fair amount of open source (including WebKit and the OS X kernel): http://opensource.apple.com/ [apple.com]
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Not sure about the GP, but I would consider Android systems to be closed... with the exception of a few that may not try to lock the sytems down.
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So? The open ecosystem has helped creating custom roms, I have upgraded my Wildfire with CyanogenMod beyond HTC's stock firmware to the latest Gingerbread version, ICS version is also in the works. True, not an ideal solution as I've needed to unlock my phone, but it is better than Apple choicewise.
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My experience has been that iOS can breathe new life into an old ARM while Android will destroy the battery.
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I'd keep the 386 around for historic reasons, but compared to the energy use of a small "biscuit" PC with a VIA or low power x86 CPU, 8-16 GB of RAM [1], and a SSD, the 386 is a power hog.
Even a regular PC with an instance of VMWare Workstation or VirtualBox would be better because it would use a lot less power.
I've fallen into that trap myself. However, there is a point where old hardware is so energy ineffecient compared to a modern machine and an emulator or VM product, that updating becomes a must even
So you're saying pre-orders are a bad thing? (Score:5, Insightful)
ALL those people that pre-ordered the samsung devices 'Sight unseen' were ok though... right?
People who pre-order anything are idiots... people who buy tickets in advance for a movie are stupid too right? They are sheep blindly following some silly trailer and thinking they might enjoy a movie. People who pre-order video games, music albums... dvds... all sheep. Right?
I hate when people use the term 'sheeple'... I am fully in charge of my technological wants and desires... I have several android devices, but I really enjoy my apple devices. I have the resources to upgrade when they come out with something new and I do. How does this make me a sheep? I'm not blindly purchasing some mythical happy box because someone said so... if I didn't want it, I wouldn't buy it. Simple as that.
Re:Apple Fanboys worry me... (Score:5, Funny)
I couldn't live in a world where Apple dominates everything.
Well, you're not very good at thinking different than are you?
Re:Apple Fanboys worry me... (Score:5, Insightful)
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I can see how Apple users (and I am one)
Track record (Score:2)
I would still be baffled by people who would buy a cell phone without reading reviews first.
Somebody has to be first or else there are no reviews to read. But the real reason people are willing to buy early in this case is that Apple has a reasonably strong track record of releasing good products and this is a mostly evolutionary upgrade to a well understood product. Could it have a showstopper problem? Possibly - but the odds are that it will be fine and most of the likely problems . It's a risk of course but a calculated one. If you prefer to wait there is no harm in doing so. There are lot
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Even though undermining your jab at Samsung fanboys goes against my Apple fanboy-ness (though I won't be in line on launch day, nor have I pre-ordered), it's worth pointing out the differences between the way the 9 million and 2 million numbers were measured, simply in the interest of facts prevailing. Apple's 2 million number is for the first 24 hours of pre-order availability and only includes consumer pre-orders. I've seen some people here also claiming that the pre-orders for Apple are U.S.-specific, bu
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Perhaps, but I already know what I needed to in order to justify the purchase.
It will play my 1080p encoded videos that my 4 wouldn't. It has twice the memory capacity my 4 had (64gb vs 32gb).
To be honest, everything else is just cake.
4.0" screen? If it still had the 3.5" I still would have bought it.
Siri? I doubt I'll be using siri at all. I've seen it, but it is a novelty -- not a really useful feature -- yet.
Faster memory? The faster memory is very nice, I definitely will like the faster app load times
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Shipped and sold are very different animals. Unfortunately, since I wish Nokia would bounce back - I use and like their phones.
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400 million sold and counting actually.
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They are all thinking different together
Re:Ball's in Sammy's court now... (Score:4, Informative)
There is much less cannibalism here than you lead on.
http://cdn1.techbargains.com/static/images/iphonepredictions/iPhone-infographic_noFooter.png [techbargains.com]
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There was just a survey done that was published a couple weeks ago and recarried on CNN that said 53% of android users were switching phones, the majority of them that were switching to iPhones, and another very significant portion of current android users who want an iPhone but bought the droid only because it was cheaper -- not better.
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Then Samsung must be really dishonest by your logic, since it took a lawsuit for them to reveal their "devices sold" numbers, which were a lot lower than the "devices shipped" number they had been touting. And what difference does it make if iPhones are new or returning customers? Even if they sold their old iPhone to get cash for a 5, someone was still buying that phone from them. Either way, total # of iOS users increases.
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Yeah, if you're going to base purchases on how workers get treated, you'll never buy anyone's products, Samsung included.
http://news.yahoo.com/samsung-accused-worker-abuse-eight-more-factories-215557712.html [yahoo.com]
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