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Jobs' Burglary Manhunt Yields Kenny the Clown 99

theodp writes "Even in death, Steve Jobs managed to get specialists from the Apple-friendly Rapid Enforcement Allied Computer Team (REACT) to team up again with Apple investigators and local police to track down the whereabouts of a stolen Apple device. Unlike a 2010 stolen iPhone prototype incident, which ended with a raid on a Gizmodo editor's home, this new investigation into the $60K burglary of the late Apple CEO's under-renovation Palo Alto home ended with the recapture of an iPad from Kenny the Clown, who accepted the device as payment of a debt owed to him by burglary suspect Kariem McFarlin. PCWorld has the details of how Palo Alto Police, REACT, and Apple investigators connected the dots to track down Jobs' stolen iPads, which may trouble some privacy advocates."
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Jobs' Burglary Manhunt Yields Kenny the Clown

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    Cost of items lost: $60000
    Cost of replacing them with insurance: $1000 ish
    Cost of finding lost items: priceless

  • by Rick Zeman ( 15628 ) on Sunday August 19, 2012 @08:33AM (#41044749)

    Dunno, I can't see any place where they went beyond the law this time. Based on the article, it seems as if they took pains to build a legal case, even to the extent of checking for open APs nearby.

    • which may trouble some privacy advocates.

      Not me, I don't steal things. When you commit a crime, you have no standing to complain about a violation of your privacy except in court.

      • Not me, I don't steal things.

        Do you really believe that only criminals get arrested and/or persecuted by the government? You think that as long as you "don't steal things" you have nothing to worry about?

      • Holy Shit. I hope you haven't reached elementary school yet, because if you have passed grade 6 and still think this way your school has done the country a great dis-service by allowing you to continue on to junior high school.
      • Are you sure ?

        I heard recently on the radio that carrying lobsters in your car is illegal. There are so many laws, especially dumb and obsolete ones, that each and everyone of us is breaking laws every day.

        • by Anonymous Coward

          I heard recently on the radio that carrying lobsters in your car is illegal.

          As a general rule, if you hear something on the radio that doesn't make a whole lot of sense, that's probably because it isn't true.
          (N.B.: You can substitute quite a few other things for "the radio" and this principle will remain a good one. "The television",
          "the Internet", "Slashdot", and so on.)

        • by Macgrrl ( 762836 )

          A quick google of this topic fails to provide any hits of relevance (your post is the top hit).

          sounds like an urban myth to me. Not that I am going to debate that there are some stupid laws still on the books in most jurisdictions - lets start with the ones about gay marriage and anything that goes on in the bedroom. I got a hit on carrying a horse in your car, but nothing about lobsters.

      • The concern is that these techniques could be used by law enforcement agents against people who are not criminals in order to harass or intimidate them.

    • Because its Apple and they are Evil. Screw shades of gray. If someone is Evil, then everything they do is evil, if they do something good then that just have an Evil motive behind it.

    • React was involved because Gizmodo bragged about dealing in stolen goods and intentionally leaked trade secrets.

    • by Toad-san ( 64810 )

      Absolutely! Great job! Got the criminal, even recovered other stolen property.

      SCREW the privacy advocates.

      • Toad-san is volunteering for a new policy of checking for bill of sale for everything in your home and possession. If you don't have a sales receipt then it will be assumed stolen and confiscated. More than $10,000 worth of stuff and you will be charged with a felony. The police will be there in a few hours.

  • by alen ( 225700 ) on Sunday August 19, 2012 @08:39AM (#41044789)

    news at 11

    apple audits network traffic that hit their servers. isn't this taught in MCSE class?

  • by alen ( 225700 ) on Sunday August 19, 2012 @08:54AM (#41044879)

    news at 11

    Steve Jobs' home was just the most high profile. isnt this what police supposed to do? catch criminals who rob lots of homes?

    • by Anonymous Coward

      yeah but if the US is anything like where I live, a solved burglary is actually newsworthy because they only solve about 2% of all burglaries.

      • by mbone ( 558574 )

        Since the average burglar is doing it for a living, on a regular basis, even a 2% clearance rate means that any given burglar will be caught soon enough.

    • by M1FCJ ( 586251 ) on Sunday August 19, 2012 @09:15AM (#41044977) Homepage

      When you look at the typical response the police gives to a typical house/office break for the rest of us (a shrug and you never hear from the pigs ever again), this only shows how corrupt the US police are and what lengths they will go to keep their masters happy.

      • by UnknowingFool ( 672806 ) on Sunday August 19, 2012 @09:41AM (#41045105)
        I suppose the reason REACT was involved is the same reason it was was involved last time: Trade secrets. Last time a prototype was the trade secret. This time the computers might have held trade secrets. If you lived in the area and REACT failed to respond to your trade secret case, please let the world know about it.
        • post to undo bad mod

        • OTOH, who in their right mind would leave diamonds and easily fenced electronic gizmos at a house that is unoccupied while undergoing extensive renovations?

          Sounds, and FSM forgive me, like a sting. Nobody could be that dumb.


      • by Larryish ( 1215510 ) <> on Sunday August 19, 2012 @09:56AM (#41045201)

        Was living in NW Florida around 10 or so years ago in a duplex apartment.

        The other apartment in the duplex got a window busted out and somebody stole a lot of collectibles and some electronics, including a fairly valuable comic book collection and a laptop computer.

        The police showed up, took a statement, and left. That's it. No pictures of the damage, no fingerprinting, nothing.

        Just 2 lazy overweight assholes with badges wishing they were at the doughnut shop.

        • Statement 1: Florida should not be held up as an example of anything except possibly the advantages of global warming and the subsequent rise in ocean levels.

          Statement 2: Anecdote is not data. Some Police do a lousy job. So do some doctors, nurses, astronauts, politicians (well, they always do a lousy job) and pedicurists.

          Statement 3: Your neighbors are not, and never have been, Stephen P. Jobs. It does make a difference.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 19, 2012 @09:07AM (#41044933)

    So when do *I* get this type of service when my iPad is stolen? Since it is so easy for Apple to cooperate and cough up the info needed to locate the device, why the HELL won't they do it for Joe Consumer? If Apple did this for every stolen iDevice, they would become worthless as theft targets.... hell, they would be come a liability to steal them and try to sell/reuse them.

  • Shucks (Score:4, Funny)

    by mbone ( 558574 ) on Sunday August 19, 2012 @10:05AM (#41045261)

    When I read the headline, my mental image was of course of Kenny the Clown moonlighting as a second story man. Now, that would be a surveillance tape I would like to see.

  • by guttentag ( 313541 ) on Sunday August 19, 2012 @10:55AM (#41045639) Journal
    Aside from the issue of allowing the iPad to connect to Apple's servers to wipe and reinstall the OS, he should have realized that the real value of an iPad or Mac from Jobs's home would have been the content of the device. If it turned out to be Jobs's personal device (as opposed to his family's), who knows what might have been on it... design plans for rounded hexagons, or seamless rounded translucent-aluminum dodecahedrons? His family, and the world, may have lost this brilliance forever... like burning Leonardo's notebooks for firewood. I hope they throw the MacBook at this barbarian.
  • According to Facebook [], Kenny the Clown is a "public figure!" Like the mayor of Oakland? I don't know which is worse, the idea of Kenny the Clown as a public figure (see the "KTC in da house!" posting from Aug 5... what a nice guy... trying to take the rap for breaking into the Jobs house), or the idea of Facebook defining who is and is not a public figure.

    "To connect with Kenny the Clown, sign up for Facebook today." No need, I'm already signed up for iTunes, and I'm sure they could connect me with Kenny
  • Last time I lost an electronic device or had it stolen, the exact same people swung into action and recovered it for me.

    Oh wait...what? Nobody did anything at all?

    Awwwwww.... :(

  • by AK Marc ( 707885 ) on Sunday August 19, 2012 @04:24PM (#41048093)
    People whine about progressive taxation, but compare a lost iPhone from Apple with a phone stolen in a "regular" robbery. The poor person gets to give a statement, and if the right serial numbers are turned into the police, he may get a phone call 10 years later, after a trial in which the device was evidence. But Apple makes a phone call, and millions of dollars are spent tracking it.

    The rich get special treatment. The rich get protection perks the rest of us don't. Then the rich complain that a poor person in a high-crime area with no police patrols doesn't pay enough taxes, but the rich person in a low-crime area has constant patrols.

    The issue here isn't the privacy concerns of your iDevice, but that you are raped by taxes for programs that mainly benefit the rich, while being told that the rich get nothing from the programs because they opt out with private security (though I didn't see any mention of the Apple private security doing the recovery work, that was all government).
    • Yup, the rich bitching about how they shoulder a disproportionate % of the "tax burden" seem to fail to neglect to mention that they also collect a disproportionate amount of the benefits of taxes paid.

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