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Google Seeks US Ban On iPhones, iPads, Macs 404

theodp writes "Following up on an announcement that it would rid itself of 4,000 employees world-wide and renege on a deal with the State of Illinois, Google's Motorola Mobility unit said it has filed a new patent-infringement case against Apple, which seeks a ban on U.S. imports of devices including the iPhone, iPad and Mac computers. 'Apple's unwillingness to work out a license leaves us little choice but to defend ourselves and our engineers' innovations,' Motorola Mobility said in an e-mailed statement."
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Google Seeks US Ban On iPhones, iPads, Macs

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  • by John Hasler ( 414242 ) on Saturday August 18, 2012 @08:11AM (#41035125) Homepage

    The article says that if they retain 2500 then they get the tax breaks: if they don't, they don't. They've clearly decided that the extra payroll isn't worth the breaks so they have chosen to give them up. That's the deal. Nothing is being "reneged" on. They are complying with the agreement.

    IMHO such deals should not exist, but that's a seperate issue.

  • Re:How can this be ? (Score:5, Informative)

    by realityimpaired ( 1668397 ) on Saturday August 18, 2012 @08:22AM (#41035153)

    TFA makes it pretty clear that they're not suing over the radio patents at all... this is over things like location awareness, e-mail push, and embedded video players....

  • Re:Well... (Score:3, Informative)

    by I_am_Jack ( 1116205 ) on Saturday August 18, 2012 @08:51AM (#41035357)
    I doubt it will force patent reform, as there is quite a bit of money in patent trolling these days, but if Google can use this to get Apple to BTFO in its desire to sue every thing that moves, then Google's performing a badly-needed service.

    If only Apple would look at the Wright Brothers as an example of what happens to you when you attempt to restrain competition by enforcing patents [wikipedia.org].
  • Re:Well... (Score:5, Informative)

    by jbolden ( 176878 ) on Saturday August 18, 2012 @09:19AM (#41035525) Homepage

    No there are two issues.

    One is a bunch of look and feel patents and functionality patents and mostly Apple is doing the suing.

    The other are a bunch of older patents about communication. And there Apple is supposed to be paying 2.5% if it is not under a co-licensing but thinks that's too high because their phones aren't $40... and in that one I have a tough time seeing how Apple is going to win.

    Apple picked a fist fight. Motorola/Google had a knife and told Apple to back off. Apple instead charged and now got stabbed

  • Re:Well... (Score:2, Informative)

    by Mindcontrolled ( 1388007 ) on Saturday August 18, 2012 @09:49AM (#41035719)
    What "tax-payers dollars"? Patent office is self financed, suing someone incurs significants costs to pay for the proceedings. Where again is the taxpayer paying?
  • Re:Well... (Score:0, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 18, 2012 @10:41AM (#41036089)

    The first punch was not a law suit but by coping a product. That is a kick in the groins.

    Remember : Eric 'MoleMan' Schmidt was sitting conveniently on the Apple board of directors when the iPhone was developed with access to all prototypes and planning protocols.

    If he would have been honest and fair, he would have notified Apple that his Company (Google) will cobble together a competing product.

  • Re:How can this be ? (Score:3, Informative)

    by MacGyver2210 ( 1053110 ) on Saturday August 18, 2012 @12:17PM (#41036849)

    Defending a patent from a frequent attacker is not attacking someone outright.

    If I walk up and punch someone, it's an attack. If that person has been provoking me for an hour, and I deck him, it's self-defense.

  • by AbrasiveCat ( 999190 ) on Saturday August 18, 2012 @12:23PM (#41036899)
    Let us see,
    • Apple makes LOTS of money on iphone
    • Google produces the Android
    • Apple Steve Jobs says stop stealing Apple's ideas
    • Google buys Motorola
    • ...
    • (Apple sues lots of people)
    • Apple sues Google
    • Apple releases their own mapping software for their iphones.
    • Google announces voice recognition for Android
    • Google sues Apple, no iphone , ipad, etc in United States

    Looks like a shoving match to me. (How many steps did I leave out?

  • Re:How can this be ? (Score:5, Informative)

    by MacGyver2210 ( 1053110 ) on Saturday August 18, 2012 @12:29PM (#41036967)

    Hello! Apple was threatening to SUE Motorola over swipe to unlock and others right when Microsoft threaned to sue them over FAT and ActiveSync. Motorolla fired back with actual litigation against the agressors. Please stop spreading misinformation.


    Apple did not just threaten to sue Motorola over Swipe-to-Unlock, it actually did sue them [intomobile.com] and won. Swipe to unlock is a common idea, present long before any sort of smartphone or touch-screen device ever had it, and is entirely a software patent.

    Motorola sued Apple and won [arstechnica.com] over the method the 3G radio chips use to time the signals to and from the tower. A hardware and software patent that is exclusively relevant to 3G mobile devices.

    Apple has been the clear aggressor all along, and their patent claims are largely trollish and petty rather than valid technical patents. Please stop spreading disinformation.

  • Re:Well... (Score:4, Informative)

    by englishknnigits ( 1568303 ) on Saturday August 18, 2012 @01:57PM (#41037685)
    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jun/08/business/la-fi-tn-apple-motorola-lawsuit-dismissed-20120608 [latimes.com]
    Yes, you said Google but it is still relevant that Apple sued Motorola since it is the Motorola unit of Google that is suing Apple.
  • Re:Well... (Score:5, Informative)

    by Nethemas the Great ( 909900 ) on Saturday August 18, 2012 @04:08PM (#41038805)
    Apple was Steve Jobs, and he was one of the most conceited and arrogant men on the planet. Anyone capable of stealing the spot light must be crushed...
  • Re:Well... (Score:4, Informative)

    by TheRaven64 ( 641858 ) on Sunday August 19, 2012 @03:56AM (#41043647) Journal

    That's kind of the point. Motorola has NOT been offering patents to Microsoft and Apple at the terms they have offered to other people. (They want literally orders of magnitude more money for the patents.)

    If it were that clear-cut, there would be no lawsuit. Motorola is offering these patents under exactly the same terms that they offer to everyone else. These terms are a fixed percentage of the final device cost. This satisfied the Fair and Non-Discriminatory parts of FRAND. Apple is arguing that they are not Reasonable, because the same percentage of a $20 dumb phone and a $600 smartphone is a very significant difference for using the patents in exactly the same way.

Exceptions prove the rule, and wreck the budget. -- Miller