California Declares Today "Steve Jobs Day" 333
First time accepted submitter onezeta writes "California Gov. Jerry Brown, in an announcement via a Twitter post, has declared it 'Steve Jobs Day.' The Apple co-founder's life as a technology trailblazer will be marked Sunday by his company's home state at a private memorial service and in a television documentary airing tonight at 8 pm EST on Discovery."
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I want a Dennis Ritchie day!
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Gotta pick up a new keyboard here, too. Sticky keys make it look like I can't spell sometimes. *LOL*
Danged things only last 6 months to a year. Having learned to type in the days of manual typewriters, I'm pretty hard on them.
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I don't really like these analogies because they are comparing apples and oranges. Inventing concrete is nice and all, but people do need nice buildings, and the inventor of concrete might be completely incapable to build anything but large cubes of concrete, much like someone who designs nice buildings might be clueless about materials. Most programmers are godawful at design, whereas most designers are godawful at programming, so in my book they are all equally deserving. We need all of these people.
This being said, Steve Jobs is getting clearly disproportionate attention. I think Ritchie is getting just as much attention and celebration as I think he should, but Steve Jobs is getting way, way, WAY more than he deserves, it's getting embarrassing at this point. I mean, a headline I can understand, but this is ridiculous.
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"I think Ritchie is getting just as much attention and celebration as I think he should, "
That's a little bit funny, when you consider that Mr. Ritchie doesn't seem to have made any headlines at all. Only after reading OP above, did I do a google search, to learn that Mr. Ritchie is, indeed, just as dead as Steve Jobs.
Rest in Peace, Dennis Ritchie, and thank you!
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Well, there are tens of thousands of people who have had a great, lasting impact on society, may that be contributing greatly to practical computer science, to theoretical computer science, to the enjoyment of electronic devices, to the understanding of the universe, to peace, to curing diseases, and whatever else it is that matters. If everybody of Ritchie's caliber made headlines, you would have a headline every goddamn day.
If attention was given on pro-rata of achievement, given the understandably limite
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I don't really like these analogies because they are comparing apples and oranges.
More like comparing Apple to Unix, if you ask me.
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Chances are there wouldn't have been an Apple if not for Ritchie.
Hmmm. I think not.
/// were all 6502 Assembler-based. "BIOS" (Monitor ROM), DOS (all versions) and all applications were either 6502 Assembler or BASIC (neither of which BASICs were C-based).
I don't think that C (even Objective-C) was used by Apple until later on in the Mac days. The Apple 1 through
Then along came the Lisa, which was a combination of 68k Assembler and Pascal, with bits and pieces of SmallTalk and even Apple's Dylan thrown in. But no C. Same with the 68k Macs.
Later, C began to be used
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I was astounded that on the day Ritchie died, and the day AFTER, there was no posted story on Slashdot. I assumed someone was waiting for a good retrospective summary, but even so that's a long time and it was newsworthy enough to post right away...
I'm not sure if Jobs is getting more attention than he deserved, but Ritchie is definitely being short-changed.
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I thought there would have been a Slashdot comment, but I didn't pay attention. I agree that it would have been appropriate, so maybe Ritchie was indeed short-changed here.
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Slashdot story, I mean. I'm sure comments are a-plenty :)
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Whether you like it or not, that's the truth. It's the world we live in, so better get used to it!
Or alternatively, if you're not an obedient sheep, speak up and try to change it.
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It's like they're creating a big holiday for a guy who happened to build a bunch of [buildings] because they were really nice while at the same time ignoring the death of the guy who invented the concrete that is the basis for the construction that everybody uses, including that first guy.(Go ahead everybody, come up with your own analogy, it's fun.)
Huh. I saw pretty much the same analogy posted in comments on ArsTechnica the other day. Paraphrasing, "Steve was like a gifted architect who oversaw the creation of buildings that many appreciated. dmr invented glass, concrete, and steel."
I love that analogy. It gives them both their due in equivalent proportions. Apple hardware and software is pretty, robust, and sells ridiculously well. dmr's stuff just fscking works, elegantly and quietly, as he intended.
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This is Slashdot, car analogies are always superior. Jobs is like Enzo Ferrari, Gates is like Henry Ford and Ritchie is like the guy who invented the automobile. Whoever that may have been. And how sad this may seem, it still stands.
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Glass, concrete, and steel were all invented thousands of years ago. There's a good chance that in two or three thousand years, no one will remember who Steve Jobs or Dennis Ritchie were, either. That doesn't change the immediate impact of the men to our time.
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I love that analogy. It gives them both their due in equivalent proportions.
Yeah... but do you see the incessant whining... like is all over slashdot, ars, and the like, right now over Jobs vs. Ritchie... about the fact that everybody knows who Frank Lloyd Wright is, but no one can remember who invented glass, concrete, or steel?
The whining about Dennis Ritchie's comparative historical footnote is infinitely preferable to the fawning over Steve Jobs and the global outpouring of tears over his death. Tears! And mind you, those aren't tears for Steve Jobs: very few people knew him well enough to legitimately cry over his loss. I was an Apple ][ user back in the seventies (still have it, low serial number) so I have a long history with Apple, and probably am more aware of Apple's effect on the industry than most. But I don't know the
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We were taken on field trips to manufacturing plants and laboratories, so that we would know where the stuff comes from. That was considered important at the time. It's not anymore. Ignorance is bliss I suppose.
Heh milk comes from a carton, bacon and eggs from the supermarket, honey from a jar. Many people don't like the truth. Ignorance is bliss for them.
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By the way all the praises here and elsewhere about C and UNIX are ironically a bit overdone too. UNIX is better than Windows. But it isn't that wonderful. C might be preferable to Pascal, but it isn't that great either.
1) C and UNIX are the "Worse is Better" approach: http://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html [jwz.org] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worse_is_better [wikipedia.org]
2) There was already a "unix" before UNIX. It was called Multics, and it was better in many areas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multics [wikipedia.org] and after UNIX the
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It's like they're creating a big holiday for a guy who happened to build a bunch of builds because they were really nice while at the same time ignoring the death of the guy who invented the concrete that is the basis for the construction that everybody uses, including that first guy.(Go ahead everybody, come up with your own analogy, it's fun.)
What, no talk of a car in your analogy?!? You must be new here.
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No, Ricthie is a guy who invented one specific type of concrete that just happens to be really popular. If Ritchie hadn't invented C, pretty much the same things would have been done in another language.
Steve Jobs' contribution isn't about white plastic, it's bringing the GUI to the masses when the guys who invented it were content to let it moulder in a lab.
Ritchie is important, but he didn't change the world.
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No, Ricthie is a guy who invented one specific type of concrete that just happens to be really popular. If Ritchie hadn't invented C, pretty much the same things would have been done in another language.
We would be programming in Pascal, Increment (Pascal), Pascal-Hash, or Papua & New Guinea.
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it's bringing the GUI to the masses when the guys who invented it were content to let it moulder in a lab.
"The masses" must refer to people who had the money to spend on a Lisa or a Macintosh. Most people did not see a GUI until Windows 95.
As for Ritchie, his most important contribution was not C, but rather his work on UNIX. You know about Unix (as it is now capitalized), right? That's the operating system on which the World Wide Web was originally built, the operating system that popularized the "everything is a file" abstraction, and yes, the operating system that Mac OS X is based on. Steve Jobs' c
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Steve Jobs' contribution isn't about white plastic, it's bringing the GUI to the masses when the guys who invented it were content to let it moulder in a lab.
Except that is the opposite of history - Jobs kept trying to kill the project at Apple that brought the GUI to the masses. Raskin and his team had already incorporated most of the Xerox PARC technology in the Macintosh project, and Steve wanted it killed, so Raskin went over his head. Steve still kept trying to kill the project so Raskin organized a field trip to Xerox PARC so that Jobs could get a clearer idea of why the ideas were important and would hopefully stop trying to kill the project. After this instead of trying to kill the Mac, Jobs forced Raskin out to take his project.
So we have the GUI in SPITE of Steve Jobs, not because of him.
http://www-sul.stanford.edu/mac/parc.html [stanford.edu]
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I want Fake Steve Jobs day!
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He wasn't a true American. He didn't earn millions or billions by offshoring his factories. He didn't profit by patenting his work. And he never sued anyone.
If you want a state memorial, you have to be a ruthless, immoral, no-holds-barred capitalist.
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By the way, I do think Jobs was a great business man who did a tremendous job of leading Apple to where they are today.
But I am disappointed to see that the fanboism has infected society to the degree that a state would declare a memorial day for a business man who did little if anything for society itself. Shipping shiny toys may be profitable, but it does not change the world in the same way as philanthropy and political activism do.
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I suggest you find a copy of "Steve Jobs and the NeXT Big Thing". Jobs was not a good manager, and was a downright terrible businessman. He was a good leader, very inspirational, but independently he was a failure at making a product people would buy. I believe he was successful at Apple (the second time) mainly because he was managed well, because he had people in charge who would say "no, you can't do that, that's too expensive" or "no, you don't need to do that, nobody cares about that".
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I'm genuinely confused by NeXT's failures. Their APIs were clean, they had a system well in advance of what was available from other companies at the time, and proprietary hardware was still the norm when they were around.
NeXT lives on in OS/X GUI, heavily adapted and updated, so at least the best of NeXT's technology was salvaged.
But you're right -- Jobs had a whole team assisting him with Apple. I'm not sure he was forced to take advice from a team at NeXT.
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Jobs was an over-perfectionist. He commissioned a logo from Paul Rand for $100,000, and then sent memos to every retail store specifying the exact colors to use and that the logo absolutely must be tilted at precisely 22 degrees. He mandated that the NeXT Cube be a perfect cube - most manufactured cubes have a shallow draft of half a degree or so so it can be removed from the mold; at the time there was only one foundry in the country capable of forming absolute perfect cubes. His market research showed that universities (his main target demographic) wanted a powerful computer for ~$6,500; the first NeXT computer was $9,999 because of all the perfectionist things Jobs demanded be added. He bought $10,000 sofas for the office and had a full-time art curator.
If any of those things sound like bad business decisions for a company that never employed more than 600 people and never had significant sales, congratulations, you're a better businessman than Steve Jobs.
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> If any of those things sound like bad business
> decisions for a company that never employed
> more than 600 people and never had significant
> sales, congratulations, you're a better
> businessman than Steve Jobs.
Way to cherry-pick your facts. Did you co-found what is, at the moment, the most valuable company in the world? Did you form another company (NeXT) for a few tens of millions of dollars and sell it for $429 million a few years later? Did you buy an animation studio for $10 million and sell it $7.4 BILLION twenty years later? (Bonus question: did you run both of those companies at the same time?) Ever create any products that sell in the tens or hundreds of millions? And not just paperclips or address labels or something like that, but nice, multi-hundred-dollar items? No? Well, congratulations, you're a worse businessman than Steve Jobs.
His time at NeXT was his time to try various things, find out who he was (he was only 30 at the time), try MORE things, FAIL a little, and learn. You make it sound like that's a bad thing.
And the part about "sent memos to every retail store specifying the exact colors to use and that the logo absolutely must be tilted at precisely 22 degrees"? EVERYONE does that. That's totally standard in the design world. Ever wonder why you don't see the Ford logo in purple, the Coke logo in green, or the Nike swoosh at a crazy angle? DESIGN GUIDELINES, that's why. EVERY company has them. Fucking foursquare [amazonaws.com] has an intricate collection of design guidelines.
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Jobs failed at making computers in the middle Macintosh era because it's not an industry where you can just do any old thing you like. Oh, it was at the beginning, when the Apple I came along, because the barrier to entry was low — there was no entrenched competition in the particular space into which they sold. But Apple clearly lost its way after the Macintosh II. The Quadra era was a downright insulting time to be a Mac user, and it's when they lost me. You want me to pay WHAT for a machine a third
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I'm genuinely confused by NeXT's failures.
I'm not. The problem I think they had was that of many startups with a great product: they expected customers to flock to them because they were, in fact, good. The reality is that even great ideas and products need marketing. Bad ideas and products even more so. The "if you build it they will come" mentality rarely works out in practice. At the very least, you have to let people know you have a product, and that requires sales and marketing.
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It was slow, just like macs were slow. When workstations were going RISC and PCs were getting clock-multiplied 486s the NeXT and the Apple machines were still dorking around with 68k, and they didn't even go to the 68060! Surely Apple had the clout to get Motorola to make a reasonably-priced, pin-compatible version of the '060 (at the time, for example, they were ordering 68040s without MMUs to save money, so most Quadras are shitty Unix machines) and could have gone that way as a stopgap but instead they s
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By the time clock-multiplied 486s appeared, Apple was already gearing up for PowerPC. They saw the writing on the wall for CISC designs, but I agree they should have hedged their bets by developing a '060-based Mac.
Yes, but remember, PowerPC didn't even exist yet. And PowerPC macs ALSO lagged in performance for real work (although they benchmarked very fast) until Altivec, and yet the PPC macs still cost more than PCs which were notably faster than they were. It wasn't until the G3 that you could even take Apple seriously, not until the G4 that they had a processor that was actually competitive... and then the G5 was heinously overpriced. Almost like Apple learned nothing from the beginning of PPC, or for that matter,
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GP was about dmr, not jobs ...
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I don't know if you are being sarcastic or just don't know Mr Job's dark side.
That's exactly what he implied. Read the comment he was replying to:
I want a Dennis Ritchie day!
The person you replied to, who replied to the person I just quoted, was talking about how Steve was a much "worse" person than Dennis Ritchie, and therefore deserved higher praise apparently because the world, to him, is totally twisted. He made a few logical fallacies, though, so I don't agree with him. The fact that people never mention the bad things Steve did are proof enough that we don't praise him for that; we praise him for his cont
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That's exactly what he implied.
Err, what I meant to say was that he was sarcastic. He wasn't implying that he didn't know of his dark side. Just to make that clear to anybody that didn't understand my comment.
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That's exactly what he implied.
Err, what I meant to say was that he was sarcastic. He wasn't implying that he didn't know of his dark side. Just to make that clear to anybody that didn't understand my comment.
Ah crap, I messed up again. What I MEANT to say was that he was talking about someone else entirely. Geez, what is wrong with my sentence-writing skills today...
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I want a Dennis Ritchie day!
Second that. Dennis Ritchie's legacy is way more important.
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Of course Steve Jobs day is decided by bunch of n00bs.
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He didn't look nor act like a magician, he probably had nothing to do with recent computers...
Actually this whole thing is pretty sad.
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If only Steve Jobs had had that sort of foresight, we might actually get to own the computers we purchase.
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He didn't look nor act like a magician ...
That was the best part of his act.
Just think, what, forty years ago he designed a programming language in order to port an operating system that would eventually run on everything from PDP-11's through cell phones, so they could play a computer game on (then) new hardware.
Who but dmr comes up with !@#$ like that? That was a class act.
I still haven't seen any mention of his passing in my newspaper. He's like a ghost in the machine, just as he always intended. Awesome.
Written in C (Score:5, Insightful)
It's not just that C is the second most common [gcn.com] programming language: Most of the other languages are actually written in C. That includes Perl, Python, and PHP.
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It's not just that C is the second most common [gcn.com] programming language: Most of the other languages are actually written in C. That includes Perl, Python, and PHP.
Not only that, but realistically you have to count embedded systems, not just personal computing devices. By that measure, C is still by far the most popular programming language on the planet.
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Just think, what, forty years ago he designed a programming language in order to port an operating system that would eventually run on everything from PDP-11's through cell phones, so they could play a computer game on (then) new hardware.
It's not just that C is the second most common programming language: Most of the other languages are actually written in C. That includes Perl, Python, and PHP.
Not only that, but realistically you have to count embedded systems, not just personal computing devices. By that measure, C is still by far the most popular programming language on the planet.
Add SCADA. That controls the most powerful systems our civilization depends on.
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Everyone should know who that is, at the very very least he is as important at Jobs and many people would say much more.
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At least he's giving back, being a philanthropist, unlike Steve Jobs, whose first action when regaining the rudder of Apple in 1997 was to cut Apples charitable initiatives, It stayed that way until early this fall - after Jobs had mostly stepped down and Apple had been publicly criticized, they added a company matching of employee contribution.
That doesn't mean I like Bill Gates, but at least he's human. Jobs was just an asshole with a smile. People buy that.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%26_Melinda_Gates_Foundation#Investments [wikipedia.org]
The foundation invests the assets that it has not yet distributed, with the exclusive goal of maximizing the return on investment. As a result, its investments include companies that have been criticized for worsening poverty in the same developing countries where the Foundation is attempting to relieve poverty.[55] These include companies that pollute heavily and pharmaceutical companies that do not sell into the developing world.[56] In response to press criticism, the foundation announced in 2007 a review of its investments to assess social responsibility.[57] It subsequently cancelled the review and stood by its policy of investing for maximum return, while using voting rights to influence company practices.[58]
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-gatesx07jan07,0,6827615.story [latimes.com]
The Gates Foundation has poured $218 million into polio and measles immunization and research worldwide, including in the Niger Delta. At the same time that the foundation is funding inoculations to protect health, The Times found, it has invested $423 million in Eni, Royal Dutch Shell, Exxon Mobil Corp., Chevron Corp. and Total of France — the companies responsible for most of the flares blanketing the delta with pollution, beyond anything permitted in the United States or Europe.
What good is curing Malaria for those people when in order to get there you help turn their environment into a complete me
Since when? (Score:2)
Since when did working for a living make one have to like rich capitalists to whom you are worth less than the ascii used to print these words?
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When you create something, normally, you fill a niche. Dennis Ritchie did something useful and did it well, but if his stuff took off, that's because there was a need for it in some way. If he didn't exist, then somebody else would have filled that need a short while later, with something that might have been better or worse, there is no way to tell. Without Ritchie you would have no UNIX, but then somebody else would have made something similar. To say that Steve Jobs would be nothing without Ritchie is di
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I can see you must be a really big hit at parties.
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Of course! But then I realized that when I didn't go to parties, somebody else was a really big hit instead. Since that role could be filled without me, I decided to go on a quest to find something that I could do where I could not be replaced. Since then I have set a turd shop; my only client was an old man who is since deceased and a kid or two for pranks, but so far I have not seen any competition, and when I tried closing the shop for a couple months, nothing filled the void. I now feel irreplaceable an
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When you create something, normally, you fill a niche. Dennis Ritchie did something useful and did it well, but if his stuff took off, that's because there was a need for it in some way. If he didn't exist, then somebody else would have filled that need a short while later, with something that might have been better or worse, there is no way to tell. Without Ritchie you would have no UNIX, but then somebody else would have made something similar.
I'm not sure about that. People kept inventing really sucky OSes like MS-DOS and Windows 3.1 for decades after Unix was created, and people who used them thought they were the best. Computing isn't the kind of place where everything quickly converges towards the best possible solution.
Also consider that there were few places like Bell Labs.
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I agree that we rarely converge on the best possible solution (after all, even Unix killed its own successor, Plan 9 - if the best possible solution always won, Unix would be dead). I am just saying that Unix does fill some roles (open source fosters research and development, many systems require multi-task and multi-user, etc.), and that its existence made the development of alternatives less likely and their success less probable, so that it is difficult to tell what would have happened if it did not exis
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I have no doubt that there would be much less chatter about Dennis Ritchie's death were Steve Jobs still alive.
If you'd grown up with him (dmr) like some of us did, you wouldn't be spouting BS like that.
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I'm sure you're upset because you knew Dennis, but what the parent post said is objectively true, and it is not a slight on Dennis Ritchie. Did you even stop to think, you're calling his post BS in a discussion on a Steve Jobs article, in which most of the posts above this are about Dennis Ritchie? Every discussion forum about Steve these days has a bunch of posts about Dennis - if Steve hadn't died, these posts about Dennis wouldn't be here. I'm not getting the hate for his post.
That's very true, but then again, timing is everything. People that respected Ritchie (like me) are bothered by the fact that someone who created one of the major pillars of the computing world, the Internet, and the personal computer revolution goes largely unknown, while Steve Jobs (with all his warts) gets credit as one of the greatest "innovators" of all time, right up there with Edison, Tesla and Einstein. Not that the public at large could give a damn, but among the self-absorbed tech-elite that popul
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I can understand someone who was actually important getting their own day, such as Washington's Birthday/President's Day, but this is ridiculous. If they want to give Steve Jobs a day, then it should be a shared day with other technology giants.
On the other hand, generally you are supposed to be dead before you can get a holiday named after you, so by that measure Steve qualifies. It would have been nice if they'd waited for a while though. That's what irritates me the most: not so much that they're trying to honor Steve Jobs, but that it's so obviously an attempt to garner some political capital.
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Except I wasn't angry when I wrote that.
Of all things, I was taking a walk down memory lane on a Sunday morning, listening to Henry Mancini's version of Brian's Song and feeling a bit wistful.
Dennis was a sort that I like. He made great tools for the sake of making great tools and didn't make much fuss over himself.
That's why he wasn't so well known. I like that. But, YMMV. If it helps your day to tell me to STFU, what the hey. I'll just drink my coffee and listen to Brian's Song again.
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Tell that to the millions of people who fucking cried when a ruthless capitalist that they didn't even know died. That's far far more pathetic.
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Two men have died. People should just let them rest in peace and not use either person's death to push an agenda.
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iSorry but I declare it Dennis Ritchie Day!
I agree. How about we honor a few more true creative minds too. Steve Jobs day? Might as well declare a Nelson Rockefeller day, or a British Petroleum day. The fact that it's California doing this makes it suspect from the beginning, so I would suggest the following as more rational substitutes (feel free to add more):
Ken Thompson Day (yeah, Apple, where would you be without C and Unix?)
James Clerk Maxwell Day
Max Planck Day
Nikola Tesla Day
Einstein Day
Marie & Pierre Curie Day
Darwin Day
Jonas Salk Day
Galil
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Yebbut, how many of those were Californians?
You don't expect California to declare a day for out-of-staters, do you?
And besides, many of the people on your list have had national days for them declared by the president - that kind of trumps California, no?
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How about Albert Sabin Day. He fought the bureaucracy and won.
What about Newton? (Score:2)
Just because Apple named a PDA after him doesn't mean you have to ignore him.
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greetings (Score:2)
But its a Sunday (Score:4, Informative)
They should Mondayize it, like Columbus Day, Presidents Day, and MLK Day.
Whats the point of a Holiday if nobody has the day off?
For that matter why are Halloween and Valentines Day called holidays - nobody has them off...
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On Valentines Day /. readers have nothing to celebrate anyway.
Was there another massacre?
Misspelling? (Score:3, Funny)
CORRECTION: Today is blow jobs day!
Oh god please no. Really? (Score:3)
n/t
Persona (Score:2)
They can have one day a year (Score:2)
Heh. (Score:2)
So this is a day that all companies in California must hire someone named Steve on every year?
Too soon?
Hmmm (Score:2)
Will the doc be made by Apple Fanboys ... (Score:2)
Or will the world finally realize that he is not as fantastic a person as everyone is claiming he was.
so.... (Score:4, Funny)
just checking does this mean I can park my Mercedes in the Handicapped spots today?
Interesting trivia (Score:2)
October 16th is also the day that several major
Nazis were executed following the Nuremberg trials.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_trial [wikipedia.org]
Hey, I like my apple stuff... (Score:4, Funny)
...but if this is the silliest thing the California government does for the rest of the year, we Californians will consider ourselves fortunate.
Hard to feel any antipathy towards Jobs when our statehouse is basically a giant, impacted colon full of human shit.
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Jerry Brown: Searching your cellphone on a whim is OK, and by the way, all hail Steve Jobs!
I give a shit about Jobs, whatever. But Jerry Brown is the leading asshole in the state.
Wow. get a load of that crap. (Score:3)
This shows how deep is the retardedness that is valuing form over substance in our society is. Few buttons to push and shiny metallic corners on an object is more important than any stuff that make those stuff actually run.
How about a real visionary and genius? (Score:5, Insightful)
Steve Jobs helped make Objective C, an offshoot of C, popular.
Dennis Ritchie made C.
Steve Jobs convinced his company to port an OS.
Dennis Ritchie helped create the very idea of a portable OS.
Steve Jobs eventually decided Unix would make a good basis for the OS on his hardware.
Dennis Ritchie helped Ken Thompson create Unix.
Steve Jobs and his company eventually decided that a similar OS and development stack across all the company's devices would be a useful idea.
Dennis Ritchie helped create an OS and development stack used on everything from phones to supercomputers.
I first read this as "Tehnology Tribalizer" (Score:2)
And there were lulz.
Until he died, I wasn't sure if Jobs and Brown were actually different people. Only Linda Ronstadt knows for sure...
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So all marketers are Nazis?
No. I was just arguing that Jobs was one of the best marketers (in the West) since Goebbels.
Would you say that he wasn't as good as Goebbels?
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You don't understand the history of Silicon Valley. The whole company was founded in his parent's garage. One half for marketing, the other half for engineering. Most startups fold within 18 months. They were the ones that not just made it but issued stock and survived through three decades (1980's - home computers, 1990's - GUI based workstations, 2000's - consumer 3D/ downloadable music, 2010's - mobile devices).
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Cheers,
Ian
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"Notice anything unusual about the above list?"
Yes, its wrong. The Bill Gates Era didn't start til 1995 and you left out Jay Miner. (You also left out Clive Sinclair, but you probably never heard of him in the USA (or of Dick Smith for that matter.)
(I bought my firdt computer in 1979 - my 3rd computer was an Apple ][ the 5th was a Mac, and I havn't bought an Apple product since then
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I'm waiting for "balanced budget" day.
It's right on the calendar man...it's a holiday in fact.
See, says right here, "Balanced Budget day is usually celebrated the day after 'Cold Day in Hell'."
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"stylish dresser"?
You mean wearing black turtlenecks for umpteen years in a row? I think it was Einstein who suggested buying a closet full of identical suits so you wouldn't have to waste time deciding what to wear, but I do think Jobs took that to an extreme.
Thanks for the best laugh I've had today.
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They were designed by his friend Issey Miyake after Steve decided a corporate image and uniform would help his company. I believe he was impressed by the workers' uniforms at Sony.
Found a source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/fash-track/steve-jobs-issey-miyake-black-turtlenecks-246808 [hollywoodreporter.com]
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