Smartphones Becoming Computer of Choice in Developing Countries 187
An anonymous reader writes "The build-out of 3G networks in developing countries, plus ultra-low prices from the likes of Samsung, will make the smartphone the sole computer of millions of citizens worldwide. And by 2016, 97 percent of smartphones are expected to use touchscreens. Now, don't get me wrong — I carry an iPad and an iPod Touch in my backpack and love touchscreens — but I still like a phone that fits in my pocket. However, I'm going to be in the minority five years from now, when the majority of wireless communicators will be smartphones."
Developing countries (Score:5, Informative)
People go to webcafes to do everything that needs an actual computer, and otherwise stay connected to internet via smartphones, which are a lot cheaper to use too.
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Oh come on. How are you supposed to jerk off to online porn in a webcafe? The local health departments must have some standards.
Seriously.
Oh, and I have another question: Why should we care whether lots of people are using their smartphones instead of desktop computers? I wonder how many people are posting here on Slashdot using a tablet or smartphone. I don't think it's very many.
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Where's the fun in that?
I guess it explains the population disparity, though.
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If that's the only thing you do with your "computer", it's not.
Unless you have cygwin installed on it, or you are running folding@home as your screensave, it's not a computer, it's an entertainment center.
I know it's very subjective, but I claim that there is a whole bunch of people who used computers since 70s and 80s that share this subjective view.
Computer is something that has either some kind of "intelligence" or performs something more than entertaining: some useful work.
Your wireless router has more
Not Just Developing Countries (Score:5, Insightful)
My laptop is gathering dust!
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I find it a pain to type more than just a few sentences on a phone.
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What about phones with physical (slider) keyboards?
Some of them are not much thicker than the keyboardless ones.
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I already probably do half to two thirds of my browsing, email, and related tasks on my smartphone these days. An awful lot of what we do with computers is arguably trivial stuff that doesn't need screen real estate or big computing power.
For basic content viewing, and simple web browsing small touchscreens work ok. However for anything requiring more precision than the finger sized blob a touchscreen sees, they absolutely blow. I can barely stand editing a couple sentences on a smartphone, and I can't imagine using it to do the things you would do on a regular computer. Try writing a thesis on a smartphone, or here's one - does anyone code android apps using only an android touchscreen device? That would be agony. At minimum I think on
ironically, the HP touchpad has that (Score:2)
The HP touchpad has an inductive charger that doubles as an adjustable-angle stand. It also has a bluetooth keyboard. As for storage, just use a NAS over the wireless link.
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Perhaps someone will make a killing with a low cost docking station.
Asus are hoping you're right.
http://event.asus.com/mobile/padfone/ [asus.com]
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Some android phones (Droid X2 for example) already have HDMI ports and support mirroring.
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I'm pretty sure you can run GCC on Android. Developing would still be a pretty hellish experience, though, even with a wireless keyboard and a display.
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You don't have gcc on your phone? Why on earth not?
Um, because no one in their right mind would choose a phone to develop and compile software on?
The problem is with software distribution (Score:4, Interesting)
In a nutshell there are 3 different ways to handle software distribution. (with some overlap)
1. Anarchy: This way is typically done on Windows. You either use a search engine to type in "$program free download" and follow the first link, or you download the source-code and compile it yourself. This requires the user to be able to evaluate the software themselves. There is no guide. This works perfectly well with competent users, but can lead to large problems with the masses.
2. Dictatorship: You have a pre-made "app-store" which only lists programmes which went through some sort of censorship process. There is typically only one to choose from and typically you have no way to influence the rules or decisions. This is the way it's now typically done on newer smartphones, for example on iOS/Blackberry/WP7/Android. Since you cannot control what code you have running on your system, you have very little control about what your system is doing.
3. Communism: (in the sense of community) You have list of recommended programs which can be easily installed. That list is compiled by a community which you can join if you have proven to be competent or at least ask why they have done a decision in a certain way. If you don't like that decision, you can always go to another community and often even mix 2 for the greatest benefit. Installing software yourself is discouraged but not forbidden. You can always just do that.
The big point why this is so important is that computers are now extensions of your brain. This means the software running on your computer influences how you think.
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"The big point why this is so important is that computers are now extensions of your brain. This means the software running on your computer influences how you think."
True. From the moment computers became easily portable and always connected, we have almost the equivalent of unlimited memory. Even if you don't remember or know something, it's probably a few touches (the new term for 'clicks') away. I wonder what will come after the smartphones... wearable computers anyone? :)
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1. Anarchy: This way is typically done on Windows.
No, Microsoft has a rather extensive website which indeed includes information on Windows software. They operate in a state of benevolent neglect with typical market manipulation. And as you state, there is no pure communism.
Android is not a dictatorship (Score:2)
Dictatorship: You have a pre-made "app-store" which only lists programmes which went through some sort of censorship process. There is typically only one to choose from and typically you have no way to influence the rules or decisions. This is the way it's now typically done on newer smartphones, for example on iOS/Blackberry/WP7/Android.
All Android phones with Android Market have adb install, which lets the user install apps outside of Android Market over a USB cable. Almost all also have "Unknown sources", which lets the user install additional app stores. Even AT&T phones nowadays allow this [tgdaily.com].
Communism: (in the sense of community) You have list of recommended programs which can be easily installed.
I take it you're referring to the process used by GNU/Linux distributions' repositories. But the criteria for those tend to include being licensed as free software and free cultural works, which typically means no high-production-value video game
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I take it you're referring to the process used by GNU/Linux distributions' repositories. But the criteria for those tend to include being licensed as free software and free cultural works, which typically means no high-production-value video games and no tax return preparation software.
No, not really. There is no reason why commercial software cannot be distributed in a repository. Companies just choose not to do it. The Canonical partner repository is in fact intended for this purpose. It would be difficult to mix free and commercial software together in the same repository, simply because of the mechanics of how repositories work. Having multiple repositories seems like a fine solution, though.
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Well actually this is not a fault of smartphones as such. For example the maemo line of smartphones actually had a normal bash shell so you could program it on the phone itself. It is, in a nutshell, just a matter of software.
Besides even before the smartphone craze, there were lots of little programmable portable computers which would now be considered smartphones (without the radio).
Re:The problem is with software distribution (Score:4, Insightful)
Agreed - modern smartphones are MUCH more powerful than the 8-bit computers we started with as a kid.
The N900 has a video out, so you can plug it into your television. Add a couple of Bluetooth input devices and you've got the equivalent of the 8-bit computer revolution - without the software. This is the space the Raspberry Pi is trying to aim for. Even though the Pi is much cheaper than a smartphone, the extra utility of the smartphone may make it a "necessity" where the Pi is a luxury.
The thing that got us hooked on computers was necessity - you had to learn something, to use them at all. Once you learned something, you developed an appetite for more. The availability of user-friendly GUI is what stunts this instinct these days.
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If you know you're going to be doing a lot of typing and mousing, you'll bring the display, keyboard, and mouse along with your ph
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And for the S60, you can download a Python shell from Nokia's website, complete with API access to the phone (camera, contacts, etc).
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Exactly. Why does a modern smartphone have be be less powerfull than a programmable calculator?
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Not to mention the iPod Touch and many other devices.
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android is pretty open by default, and it's even feasible (not easy or fun) to write programs directly on the phone.
Actually, with SL4A it IS sort of fun, especially if you add Amarino into the mix
"Scripting Layer for Android (SL4A) brings scripting languages to Android by allowing you to edit and execute scripts and interactive interpreters directly on the Android device. These scripts have access to many of the APIs available to full-fledged Android applications, but with a greatly simplified interface that makes it easy to get things done."
http://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/ [google.com]
Japan as well (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Japan as well (Score:5, Funny)
In Japan a lot of people either don't have a computer at home, or don't have internet access(they usually have a laptop in that case). However the reasons are probably a bit different, the Japanese can obviously afford computers, but since even now most Japanese people don't take work home with them, there really isn't an overwhelming need to have one.
oh man... thats so sad... what they do when they come home after work???? no facebook? no.... ehm... porn?? no news, no email, no skype, no ichat? just your wife kids and stuff??? I ain't going there, no way!
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Re:Japan as well (Score:5, Funny)
LOL, you expect the average working person in Japan to have _FREE TIME_ to spend? They don't, and when they do get home the only thing they want to do is watch brainless variety shows.
So there is something that the West manufactures that the Japanese want then.
We just need an entry to the 'Net. (Score:2)
I use my desktop for gaming and serious data manipulation, my laptop for everything else (video, communicating, office work, etc). I don't have a tablet yet, but I can see it substituting all my other uses, minus the most CPU-intensive. If a tablet can do this, newer generation smartphones can do it as well. Computing power goes up, the only limit is the physical limit which makes it difficult to enter data and watch it comfortably.
But for most casual PC jobs (e-mailing, tickets, show times, etc) smartphone
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I'm still waiting for a cheap hybrid; a laptop with a touchscreen where I could simply detach the screen and use it as a tablet (even if it's just a screen, battery and wireless link to the base).
I know you can just plug in a keyboard/mouse combo to a tablet, but that feels like a poor hack of a laptop, and besides I want a 12" screen minimum.
Where are 12" tablets? (Score:2)
I know you can just plug in a keyboard/mouse combo to a tablet, but that feels like a poor hack of a laptop
Unless the keyboard is built just for the tablet, as in the case of the Eee Pad Transformer.
and besides I want a 12" screen minimum.
A 12" tablet may not fit in the kind of bag where a tablet is carried.
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The problem is that most hybrids like the Transformer still seem tablets with some laptop features.
My usage patterns would be very different: most of the time I need a laptop running Debian, and occasional (maybe 20% of the time), I want to read some document or watch some video without having to carry the keyboard around.
That's why I want a 12" - I'm not comfortable with working for extended periods of time on anything smaller. Portability is less important than that.
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most hybrids like the Transformer still seem tablets with some laptop features.
The only way you can detach the keyboard is if the CPU, RAM, and mass storage are in the monitor half of the clamshell. This means you're building a tablet.
most of the time I need a laptop running Debian [...] I want a 12" - I'm not comfortable with working for extended periods of time on anything smaller.
Then you might want to consider something like this 12" ASUS Eee Slate [ebay.com] with a keyboard dock. Yes, I agree that it's overpriced compared to budget 12" laptops, but apparently there aren't enough people like you to make high-volume production of such a product profitable.
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A 12" tablet may not fit in the kind of bag where a tablet is carried.
Then you fit it into the kind of bag where a small laptop is carried.
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Same problems as the Transformer: small screen and keyboard, not enough RAM, probably too slow CPU.
I want a proper 12" laptop, but with a detachable capacitive touchscreen.
97% of smartphones are expected to use touchscreen (Score:3)
That's truly a shame. Unless it's in addition to a keyboard, of course.
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I'm sure in the future, as there is now, there will be smartphones with touch-screens and built in keyboards.
Would you honestly prefer having to cursor through all the apps on your smartphone instead of using a touchscreen?
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Well said. Touchscreens are practically useless outside of clicking over-sized buttons and gross ape-like gestures.
For precision work, like re-positioning the text-cursor or clicking small targets, you really need something like an optical trackpad. With a touchscreen-only interface, such a simple and common task is extremely frustrating. (No, zooming in isn't an option. That completely defeats the purpose of having a larger screen.)
As for typing, no matter how awesome you think swipe is, it still can'
FUCK MUDDLEHEAD APPLEMARKETNEWSPEAK (Score:2, Interesting)
First they try to steal "apps" for things that are not applications, but rather channels of content.
Now a smartphone is a "computer"? In the sense of "general-purpose computing device" it most certainly is not. And neither is a fucking tablet.
I love my Android phone. But it is a communications device. It is not a computer.
I wouldn't mind having a tablet. I'll probably get one this year or next. It'll be great to surf and watch films with. But it's a content-consumption device. It is not a computer.
But I gue
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Okay, okay, I missed the bit about expanding 3G networks in developing countries.
But it's still Captain Obviousness, and I'm still pissed that I got suckered into wasting my time reading this.
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Okay, okay, I missed the bit about expanding 3G networks in developing countries.
But it's still Captain Obviousness, and I'm still pissed that I got suckered into wasting my time reading this.
Tragically, it's not as obvious as it might seem to us geeks. In Papua New Guinea there are 55 thousand Facebook subscribers. 50 thousand of them access the Internet exclusively through their phones. But government is so blind to the incipient demand that they actively promote some of the highest Internet prices in the world. Reports like this are quite useful to those of us trying to make people realise that Internet + smart phone actually means something to the development of a nation.
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What the hell are you talking about? Smartphones are computers with cellular radios. The phone functionality is just another app.
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Smartphones are computers with cellular radios.
Does a general-purpose computer require all of its applications to have been approved by the computer's manufacturer?
The phone functionality is just another app.
And a smartphone-sized computer without phone functionality is called a PDA. So why can't I buy a PDA anymore without it having other severe disadvantages? These may include complete unavailability in my country (Samsung Galaxy Player/Galaxy S Wifi) or lack of multitouch and lack of access to applications exclusive to the platform's primary market (Archos 43 Internet Tablet).
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iOS != general-purpose (Score:2)
The fact that I can run Frodo, DosBox, and UAE on them
...applies only to Android. Tablets that run Android are general-purpose; tablets that run iOS are not.
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"...applies only to Android."
No, it doesn't.
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No, it doesn't.
That doesn't give me a lot to go on. Which popular smartphone platform other than Android "can run Frodo, DosBox, and UAE", as Belial6 mentioned, without a jailbreak?
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Well, maybe not those specific applications (because they haven't been ported, possibly dosbox) but you can run whatever you want on a Blackberry without "jailbreaking" or "rooting" as Apple and Android users are forced to do.
Drop the file on an SD card, download it through the browser, or even write a program directly on the hand-set. The choice is yours.
It even multi-tasks properly, with exceptional battery life.
I wasn't aware of NDK for BlackBerry (Score:2)
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You're not a big reader are you? Let me quote my post:
not those specific applications
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"That doesn't give me a lot to go on. Which popular smartphone platform other than Android "can run Frodo, DosBox, and UAE", as Belial6 mentioned"
I'm guessing you can use google as well as I can.
"without a jailbreak?"
Oh, you're trying to move the goalposts and attribute words that weren't there before. Carry on, then.
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Oh, you're trying to move the goalposts
Apple moves the goalposts every time it updates iOS with "protection" against the last version's jailbreak.
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You seem to have a hard on for Apple for some reason.
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And fuck apple in general. Peddlers of bullshit. Destroyers of freedom.
i havent read tfa, but as to the phone being or not being a computer, the N900 is pretty much a debian gnu/linux machine.
On the maemo forums I stumbled across a thread about someone buying up "all" used N900 from ebay uk. Apparently they can sell them for more than what uk:ians wanna pay in some other country.
i agree the ios:s and androids are more like comm devices, but yo dawg, I can haz asterisk on my n900 if I wanna...
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Now a smartphone is a "computer"? In the sense of "general-purpose computing device" it most certainly is not. And neither is a fucking tablet.
Congratulations: 3:57 AM and already I'm seeing the dumbest thing I'm going to see all day. They have input, they have output, and they can run arbitrary, general-purpose code. That makes them a general-purpose computing device, yea, even my shitty LG flip phone. I can write any Java Applet I want and load it on the phone, that makes it a general purpose computing device.
I love my Android phone. But it is a communications device. It is not a computer.
Oh, you're trolling. How much did that UID cost you?
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I love my Android phone. But it is a communications device. It is not a computer.
I think you're a bit off there. At least, for me, its an information device.
It gathers, stores, shows, and send out information. The communication part is just a subset of that.
If I see something funny or interesting, I take a picture or a video of it. If I think of something, I can save the idea in via audio, text and/or drawings. If i'm on a trip, I store all travel documents, with all the needed references on the phone, and it also shows me where I should drive to get there, and remembers where my hotel
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In 5 years, most mobile phones will use touchscreens. Thank you, Captain Obvious.
Obvious? Hell, I thought that in 5 years it would be obvious to everyone how awful the touchscreen-only interface actually is.
Seriously, it's absolute misery. The few benefits it offers are FAR outweighed by the drawbacks -- everything from typing (swipe? get real) to something as simple as re-positioning the text-cursor. Maybe with a hybrid resistive/capacitive screen (so you could use a stylus) it may be less horrid, but it'll still be a nightmare to type, as it is now.
There's a reason we're seeing so m
It takes a $99 per year subscription (Score:2)
The removal of Other OS turned it not-GP (Score:2)
Just because the manufacturer/vendor/whatever chooses to lock it down does not suddenly make it a paperweight.
I didn't say it was a paperweight. I said it wasn't general-purpose.
Linux on the PS3 ring any bells?
The removal of Other OS turned a general-purpose computer into a no-longer-general-purpose computer.
Low prices? (Score:2)
The summary mentions ultra-low prices from the likes of Samsung. What, exactly, does this mean? What counts as an ultra-low price?
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Think of a low price. Now lower it. That's muthafarking ultra-low. That's so low you gotta be a world class limbo champion to slide your way under there. Ultra-low, biatches.
Small pockets? (Score:2)
I can't say I've ever had any trouble fitting even relatively big smart phones (Nexus S) into my pocket, but perhaps OP would like to take a look at the Xperia Mini [sonyericsson.com]?
let's talk about words (Score:3)
Computer is something that does more than entertaining. Smartphone is not a computer unless you run FOLD@home on it when it's charging at night.
It can run all the videos, render 3D, play music and rub your back at the same time at 10GHz, but it still won't be a computer.
Now, a rusty chip in your car that does only one thing: optimizing injection into your carburator - that's a computer.
Heck, the calculator I had in 1983 has more rights to be called a computer than a smartphone.
seriously? (Score:2)
The only thing stopping a smartphone or tablet from running FOLD@home is someone writing the code for it, same as any other computing device.
An android (or webos, or meego) device is a full Linux system! How can you possibly say it's not a computer? There are calculator emulator apps that run on smartphones...do you see how ludicrous your position is?
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Because an Android device is a crippled, incompatible Linux distribution that goes only where Google wants. WebOS went nowhere due to mismanagement, and Google did a great job damaging interest in MeeGo.
Smartphones are the new console, and the push by the majors is to keep them that way while console-izing tablets and standard PCs.
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"ludicrous" it's subjective. As I said: this is a subjective perception of me and rather large group of people who worked with computers before phones started to be called computers.
It's not about computing power, it's about usage. If it is used for "computing" (historically something practically useful) then it's a computer. If it is used for "communication", it's "communication device", "phone", etc. if it is used for watching videos, playing games and listening to music - it's an "entertainment center"
To
It happens in America too (Score:2)
A company you never heard of does web apps for government. In a meeting recently with some folks who administer public health for the disadvantaged, the company was told that increasing numbers of their public assistance clients are using smartphones exclusively for Internet access because a monthly mobile package is cheaper than a laptop / desktop and broadband Internet.
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Or just get bigger pockets.
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My pockets in my jeans can fit a 7" tablet without much issue.
I have never understood what people complain about with their tiny 3.5" phone.
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My pockets in my jeans can fit a 7" tablet without much issue.
American obesity FTW!!
(ok, really Australia but don't let facts get in the way of a joke)
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My pockets in my jeans can fit a 7" tablet without much issue.
Well yes Ii can fit my ebook reader in my jeans pockets. It's just a bit difficult when you want to sit down without breaking the thing;.
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This is exactly why i use a smartphone. It allowed me to ditch the ipod, navi etc AND it fits in my pocket. No need for a backpack.
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And does 111 x 55 x 15.2 mm Galaxy 551 fit much more comfortably in your pocket than 115.2 x 58.6 x 9.3 mm iphone? I am usually not that demanding when choosing trousers that a couple of millimeters would make or brake my smartphone choice.
As far as "overpriced behaviour" is concerned - in my country an unlocked iphone costs less than comparable models from samsung and HTC. I am not saying that Apple does not have shortcomings, but price and size are not among them.
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After a few minutes of practice, using Swype on a touchscreen was far more efficient than using the slide out keyboard of my own phone. I had doubts about touchscreen only, but it's not that bad.
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How does an iPod touch not fit in your pocket? What kind of of pants are you wearing?
Skinny jeans?
That makes as much sense as complaining that you can't carry your phone in your ski pants except by stuffing it down your g-string.
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Possibly it depends on the (size of) genitals too?
Like the Great Wal of China, you can see mine from outer space. Like a black hole they distort gravity. If there were Seven Wonders of the Modern World, mine would be three of them.
I really must stop drinking at lunchtime.
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If you can see your genitals while wearing jeans, you are doing it wrong.
Depends on the person in the jeans. Camel toe [wikimedia.org] can be aesthetically pleasing.
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If you can see your genitals while wearing jeans, you are doing it wrong.
Depends on the person in the jeans. Camel toe [wikimedia.org] can be aesthetically pleasing.
I don't know about aessthetically pleasing, but it does send out the message that she probably will, given a bare minimum of effort/cash on your part.
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why have you got sunglasses in your pockets at all times? poof
Lives in a sunny country?
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If I wear normal, regular fit Levi 501s then anything in the pockets gets bent when I sit down.
These days I have to wear pants with pockets in the legs to carry all my gadget stuff ("cargo pants" in the USA). The only other choice is to carry a little handbag with me (but that's not happening).
I guess all the "huh?" comments are from Americans where 'baggy enough to hide the flab' is the norm for trouser size.
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Or maybe the "huh?" are from people who can wear regular fit 501s and still fit stuff in their pockets...
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If I wear normal, regular fit Levi 501s then anything in the pockets gets bent when I sit down.
If your phone bends when in your pants, you should probably be replacing it anyways, sure with 501s sometime keys and other things hurt if they get caught up the wrong way in those relatively tight fitting jeans, but they were most 'dangerous' with smokes in a soft pack. Why you seem to imply that Americans don't wear tight fitting jeans or how you'd get that impression, probably some shouldn't, but there are plenty of people who pull it off well.
I'm not sure why you choose to include the pedestrian 'Ameri
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http://blog.gadgethelpline.com/80-google-android-handset-sells-big-africa-huawei-ideos/ [gadgethelpline.com]
$80 Google Android handset sells big in Africa – Huawei Ideos
Chinese phone manufacturers Huawei who specialise in budget white label handsets seem to have hit the correct market in Africa as its Huawei Ideos budget smartphone has taken off in Kenya bringing a huge jump in Android sales to the country.
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Feel for you man. I bought a sony once too. Worst decision I ever made.
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calculus [wikipedia.org]
abacus [wikipedia.org]
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On the sofa I use a tablet, as I'm just casually browsing while watching TV, or showing someone some photos. It's fine for that, and I don't need a real keyboard.
That's enough for many people I know. Relatively few are power users who need more, unless they're serious gamers. For me, the main reason I still keep a real PC is for photo editing.
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It's a commonly known fact inside the industry that smartphones will take over a large faction of what people used to use desktops for, because they will be powerful enough to do so.
Not for me and for many others. This whole discussion is missing a very important element. When I buy a non-phone computer, I buy the computer. That's it. But when (if) I buy a smartphone, I have to keep shelling out $30 to $50 a month forever because they won't sell them without signing up for a data package.
Sure I have to pay $30/mo. for my DSL line for "regular" computer(s), but that is for one line, and I can attach as many computers, media devices, whatever to it as I want.
Until the phone comp
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An acceptable smartphone is around €400. I don't know where Anonymous shops, but I wouldn't seen dead in €4,- pants. Finding a decent pair for €40,- is a real bargain.
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Many of them can grow their own food but they don't get to eat it because people with guns come to take it and or their land to sell to someone else for more profit than can be made off of feeding their countrymen.
Or the people that knew how to grow the food were killed or forced off the land they knew how to farm so that someone from the right tribe could have the land whether they knew how to farm at all.
If you haven't noticed, we got out of the human rights conflicts in Africa. Blackhawk Down and all tha
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Keeping their Droid's what?
There's no difference between a small, easily carried item and bulky or immobile things nor any difference between someone in a relatively stable city and someone in contested countryside?
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And Chewbacca lives on Endor.