Apple Hits 15b App Store Downloads, But Loses "App Store" Name Skirmish 183
Coldeagle writes "Apple has been dealt a blow in its 'App Store' trademark case, with a federal judge denying its request for an injunction to stop Amazon from using the term." Apple probably wouldn't trade the name exclusivity it seeks, though, for the success they've found with the business model; the company announced today that the App Store has reached 15 billion downloads.
Thank god (Score:2)
App Store was way too generic for a trademark. That's the problem with coining a term, at least xerox was the name of their company.
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If Microsoft was able to successfully defend their "Windows" trademark, Apple had a fighting chance. Fortunately, in this case, sanity won the day.
It could have just as easily gone in their favor.
LK
devil is in the details (Score:2)
in microsoft's case, if you look closely, what they have registered as trademark is "Microsoft Windows". The whole phrase. And that's enforceable. But "windows" on its own, isn't enforceable in the market of graphic interfaces. "well, we're creating a GUI. Which uses windows. Let's call it Windows !"
And indeed there are other graphic interfaces also called with names containing "Windows". A proeminent exemple should be the unices' "X11 Windows".
when you look at their other product, Microsoft seems quit fond
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this prevents them from suing because of these names
Lindows? [wikipedia.org] I'll grant that it prevents them from suing successfully, but they are more than happy to throw money around to inconvenience the competition.
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Lindows lost because
You, my friend, are a lying fuck. Lindows settled with Microsoft, after Microsoft had all their claims rejected by the judge. How is getting $20M for the 'Lindows' name losing?
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Or not:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/113860/lindowscom_ordered_to_change_name.html [pcworld.com]
http://www.pcworld.com/article/116947/microsoft_lindows_make_a_deal.html [pcworld.com]
They settled, so it was never rejected.
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You do realise they didnt lose, they settled because continuing would likely have seen MS lose the Window TM?
Re:devil is in the details (Score:4, Insightful)
first, there is no "X11 Windows"; it is the "X Window System (version 11)".
also all citations i can find indicate that you're wrong about the trademark. for one, look to the devil itself http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/en/us/IntellectualProperty/Trademarks/Usage/Windows.aspx [microsoft.com]: "Windows is a registered trademark of Microsoft Corporation in the United States and other countries."
it's an abusive invalid mark and that's how they were able to sue (and decimate) lindows (now linspire). microsoft then settled because they knew they would lose if the case were carried through.
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in microsoft's case, if you look closely, what they have registered as trademark is "Microsoft Windows". The whole phrase. And that's enforceable. But "windows" on its own, isn't enforceable in the market of graphic interfaces.
Actually, the last time this question came up I searched the USPTO database. In fact Microsoft does have the single word "Windows" trademarked in addition to the "Microsoft Windows" trademark. You haven't looked closely enough.
In fact the single word "Windows" is trademarked several times under different categories of product and services.
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Aero
Arc
Conker
Fable
Georgia
Groove
Lips
Natural
Nina
Outlook
Rare
Sidewinder
Surface
Windows
Postbox (http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4001:3q4qmv.5.41)
The reason they got those will likely be because they trademarked them for technology specific groups. When you apply for a trademark it doe
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Microsoft was not successful in defending the "Windows' trademark. They dodged a bullet. It was looking pretty bad for them, so they settled out of court.
http://www.silicon.com/technology/software/2004/02/11/lindows-wins-in-us-court-microsoft-ruling-39118328/ [silicon.com]
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"Windows" is not a generic term for a computer operating system, any more than "Apple" is for a computer company. "App Store" for a store that sells apps, however...
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I would think that Windows would count as a generic term for a computer windowing system, but that's just me.
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And that would be relevant if MS sold a computer windowing system with that name. They don't.
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Please stop using the word "generic" when you mean "descriptive". They are not the same thing. In fact, they're completely different from a legal perspective (though a term becoming generic can lead to it becoming descriptive). One is a term that was originally a trademark, whereas the other is something being proposed for the first time.
Descriptive: a mark that describes what the mark covers—for example, the mark "grocery store" fo
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Huh? Microsoft was not able to defend their Windows trademark.
They reached a mutually beneficial settlement with Lindows. (Lindows changed their name in exchange for $$.)
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Unless you're being specific about who said it, your quote is worthless. People in the group you label "Apple zealots" will have a variety of different things to say.
The fact is that the App Store contributes about 1% to Apple's profit. Whether you think that is a lot or a little is purely subjective.
http://allthingsd.com/20100623/apples-total-gross-profit-from-the-app-store-since-launch-189-million/ [allthingsd.com]
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I would consider $189M of GROSS PROFIT significant if it was my product/business.
It might pale in comparison to the rest of Apple, but that is a lot if money in what, 3 years?
Perspective is everything
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Using a pricing scheme similar to iTunes, with 70 percent ($1.04) to the developer, $0.20 plus 2 percent of the ASP ($0.23) to the credit card company, and 1 percent ($0.02) per app for processing (storage & delivery), Apple’s App Store gross margin on revenue from paid apps ($428 million since launch) is about 44 percent, or $189 million in gross profit,” Munster explains. “This does not factor in the roughly $81 million Apple has spent since launch to store and deliver the 4 billion free apps that have been downloaded.”
Meaning the actual costs were not exact. The analyst estimated that only 1% for operating costs but it may be higher and even the analyst acknowledged he did not take into account capital costs of building more infrastructure. Data Centers are not cheap. Just ask Google; they spend about $500M for each of theirs.
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If Apple ever comes out with OS 11, then I may take another look at it, but in general, the UI feels...gooey, and doesn't feel all that fast. I am not talking about the speed of the machines as much as just the feel of the UI itself. It may be intentional, but I always feel that Apple put too much effort into cute little UI elements which make the experience feel slow. Of course, I also like to see progress, and feel that Apple UI design is stagnant which is NOT a good thing.
People had a difficult
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And have you ever, in your entire history of posting here, said just one thing negative of Apple?
Of course, because unlike you I am a rational person not acting only on emotion.
For example, I still think OS X printing lags way behind Windows printing controls. Even with Lion they've only just moved beyond primitive...
And I have said repeatedly this or that patent lawsuit was stupid.
You see, I can realize strengths and weaknesses of platforms I use and like most technical users find that software patents a
Not a cop out (Score:2)
Isn't that a cop-out? Software patents aren't a matter of pro or con in regards to a specific organization.
No, because a true shill would defend a company regardless of rightness or wrongness of specific patent uses.
I have said when I think Apple is using the leverage of patents in an unfair manner.
Just because patents are not a matter of pro or con on their own does not mean attitudes toward them cannot help show intent.
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The most convincing shills engage in half-truths with every other sentence.
The MOST convincing shills would claim others are shills in order to silence a message their masters disagreed with.
As for my own messages, the law of KISS says I am who I say I am - especially since MY history here runs far deeper and longer than any Apple interest, while you are not even a ghost.
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I only pointed out your apparent allegiance because I've probably read at least 600 pro-Apple posts from you, and 0 anti- posts
Its because in recent years anti-Apple sentiment has flourished on Slashdot - and that word is really far from the depth of hate we have seen spring forth. How many chances have I to speak on anything actually technical compared to the MANY opportunities presented daily to correct blatant lies and mis-staemnets by Apple Haters?
It's a kind of mild OCD where I cannot tolerate lettin
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As one of the consistent anti-Apple posters here the last few years, I'll just let you know that the reason why I bother with it is people like you. All since the introduction of OS X made Apple somewhat geek-credible, Slashdot has been swamped by fanboys of your kind, people who do nothing but advertise one company's products. Most of the time, you're full of shit. In the end, people get fed up with it and point it out. People like you remove any reason to add, for balance, that Apple's laptops are kind o
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Like i said: you're a dishonest bunch. Apple actively blocks support for open formats in iOS. You cannot make a plug-in for supporting WebM in Safari on iOS.
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Right, because it's a great idea to allow native third party plug-ins in a browser....What could possibly go wrong?
But on another note, you are free to write an application and register in iOS that your app can handle the WebM format and it will be launched when clicked.
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Yeah, let's pretend "there's an app for that" solves every problem. Let's pretend we're talking about plug-ins that execute arbitrary code ... no wait, let's be honest: we're talking about codec support. Fact of the matter is, native support for free codecs is impossible to implement on iOS. I repeat: you're a dishonest bunch.
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Funny how non-free codec players exist in the App Store. A quick search brings up a list of Xvid players (with MKV support, too), WMV, MPEG2, amongst other codecs.
This app seems to sup
On politics (Score:2)
btw, quirks against a platform don't really count as political disagreements. Why not mention an official position of Apple which you object to?
Like what? Generally I support Apple because a large majority of "positions" Apple holds I agree with, including protecting the security of end users and making computing easier and more accessible being a priority. What exactly am I supposed to be disagreeing with here, since obviously you have something in mind. Spit it out.
I've said in the past when I thought A
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Yes, God personally intervened to save Amazon from Apple. On the other hand He chose not to stop Amazon's one-click patent.
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Yes, God personally intervened to save Amazon from Apple. On the other hand He chose not to stop Amazon's one-click patent.
It has actually been rejected as obvious in Europe by using the correct interpretation as obvious. The person to whom an invention would have to be obvious to be rejected as a patent is assumed to have total and complete knowledge and understanding of all published inventions in the field (in other words more knowledge and understanding than even the cleverest slashdotters) and infinite patience and time to try all combinations of obvious things that can be reasonably expected to lead to the desired goal.
Nobody I know associates App with Apple (Score:3)
I thought it was generally accepted that App generally stands for Application. It was a bold move by Apple to try to secure the word, but I am glad they failed.
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I thought it was generally accepted that App generally stands for Application.
I thought EXE stood for applications. APP is pretty recent.
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'Exie' stands in for executable, which are more often not applications then they are.
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Sort of like "two girls and a cup".
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Sort of like "two girls and a cup".
okay, so a trademark would be not enforceable. but what about a design patent?
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What's happening to this world? (Score:2)
What's wrong with iStore? (Score:2)
Also, let's burn "widget store", "got app?", "widget factory", and "buyme*".
* harkening back to simpler times when one could post a program named "playme" to wreak havoc, for the hacker fun of it (no pop-up dialogs involved.)
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Copyright != Trademark. Just you go try to trademark iStore and watch how quickly the Apple Legal ninjas jump on you.
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Unless they can show that they have been using the name in trade, he'd probably win. Well, provided he could afford legal representation throughout the many lawsuits and appeals, that is. Most likely they would offer an out of court settlement wherein he receives an undisclosed sum of money and they get the trademark.
15 billion? (Score:2, Insightful)
"App Store has reached 15 billion downloads."
And how many of those were the weekly 'updates'? I've noticed that certain companies publish frequent updates to their freeware which are actually reminders to buy the paid version. A single App may be downloaded several times in a month or a year due to these 'updates'. I suppose Apple is counting them as unique downloads.
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First line of TFA:
200 million iOS users have downloaded over 15 billion apps from its App Store
That equates to an average of 75 downloads per iOS user. That's a lot.
Now I have no idea how many apps a typical iOS user has installed on their phone, but if it's half that I'd be surprised. So sure there are many updates included in this number.
This site [gigaom.com] has some more statistics on the app's value and prices paid (no idea on the reliability of these numbers, other than that they sound altogether plausible to me). They claim that the average payment amount per app (averaging in the fre
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> That equates to an average of 75 downloads per iOS user. That's a lot.
I just checked mine: I have downloaded a total of 225 apps on my iPhone 3GS, which I bought a year ago.
Going through the list there are a lot of one-time usage apps on (voting and event related which I checked once or twice and then deleted, games which I played until finished and then removed, documentation/walkthrough for games). Right now I have about 100 apps installed.
So 75 downloads is easily doable.
My aunt on the other hand ha
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I think your aunt is much closer to the average user than you are... this as most /. users are power users.
And just out of curiousity: how many of those were paid and how many free? The site I linked to mentions that while 3 out of 4 apps on the market are paid apps, 3 out of 4 downloads are free apps.
Personally I'm a cheapskate Android user; the two dozen or so apps that I have installed are all free. I've yet to pay for an app. The required registration for that is an objection to me.
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Personally I'm a cheapskate Android user; the two dozen or so apps that I have installed are all free. I've yet to pay for an app.
And I don't think you're untypical of Android users. That's the major reason why commercial developers prefer to develop for iPhone. iPhone users tend to buy more apps than Android users.
And in the main I don't think it's an ideological difference, just an economic one. iPhones are more expensive to buy than Androids, so people with more disposable cash are likely to buy iPhone, people who for what ever reason want to spend less money are more likely to buy an Android.
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But clearly you're not including that part of the contracts you paid that were subsidising the phone.
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I think your aunt is much closer to the average user than you are... this as most /. users are power users.
And just out of curiousity: how many of those were paid and how many free? The site I linked to mentions that while 3 out of 4 apps on the market are paid apps, 3 out of 4 downloads are free apps.
Personally I'm a cheapskate Android user; the two dozen or so apps that I have installed are all free. I've yet to pay for an app. The required registration for that is an objection to me.
Just checked my iPad - 67 apps installed (not including ones I've deleted). Many games are $0.99. Even a cheapskate can afford that on impulse.
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200 million iOS users have downloaded over 15 billion apps from its App Store
That equates to an average of 75 downloads per iOS user. That's a lot.
You obviously do not own any iOS device.
I owned an iPhone for 2 years, and added an iPad a few months ago. I just checked I have 220+ apps on my iTunes, and that's not include apps I have already deleted.
Not surprisingly, quite a number of them are free apps, but just getting the usual news apps, map apps, social network/communication apps (FB, Skype), some general utilities, and, of course, lots of games will easily get you 50+ downloads already.
I know more about computers than you... (Score:2)
and I like Apple.
Kinda blows a hole in your theory.
Nerds Love UNIX (Score:5, Interesting)
Apple fans - this is a website for nerds. Not for hipsters.
True nerds love UNIX, and Apple provides an exceptional UNIX out of the box.
That's really what propelled them to start with, Apple's fortunes changed with OS X because at the core nerds had their back seeing an opportunity to bring UNIX to the masses. And you know what? It worked.
Linux for whatever reason is just not the OS you could reasonably give to your mother or grandmother without some hands-on support time involved. OS X is a fire-and-forget computer solution that means family visits are not four hour fix-a-thons.
Re:Nerds Love UNIX (Score:4, Insightful)
It's too bad they had to go and declare true nerds the enemy with their iProducts. After using my 2006 MacBook and enjoying every minute of using OS X, they had to go and take a hostile approach to software development and control over things they sold.
I can't support them now. And sadly that means the now reduced OS X partition on my MacBook likely won't be seeing Lion, despite having seen up through Snow Leopard.
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Where exactly is their hostile approach to OS X software development?
iOS, sure, is a little more locked away, but your point seems to rest on the basis of your 2006 MacBook experience.
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Perhaps you did not read what I said.
I gave up on Apple, despite enjoying OS X, precisely because of how they behave towards more technical users that enjoyed OS X's capabilities. And you know as well as I that the hostility doesn't extend to OS X (yet.) Apple sees mobile as the future of computing (hence the "post-PC era" comments from Jobs), however they give users none of the flexibility offered by OS X, not even the option. Instead they are actively fighting against it, picking and choosing who gets to
You know nothing (Score:4, Informative)
And you know as well as I that the hostility doesn't extend to OS X (yet.) Apple sees mobile as the future of computing (hence the "post-PC era" comments from Jobs),
Post PC doesn't mean SANS PC. It means getting past the point of the PC being the PRIMARY platform, and to a world where it is one of many platforms as equals. Mobile is only where computing has to go to extend further than it has, and is ONE future, not all of it.
They were even ready to try and apply US Federal laws against people creating jailbreaks.
Really? When? I never read a single thing that said that, and now of course the point is moot since the law is clear that jailbreaking is fine.
They've gone 180 from where I saw them when I got my MacBook.
They continue to do what they always have tried to do, bring computing to the masses while still giving technical users excellent systems. Any change is you misinterpretation of direction, not an about-course.
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And you say the same thing again.
That's not what I saw. I see Jobs and Apple making a hard push to displace the PC with their form of mobile computing. I don't doubt that PCs will still exist, but I don't see Jobs et. al. pushing real hard to get them into the hands of consumers (not when they can give them locked down hardware.)
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And you say the same thing again.
Yes, it's odd how logical constancy leads one to the same conclusion time and time again!
I see Jobs and Apple making a hard push to displace the PC with their form of mobile computing.
Then you are blind or not looking. I was *at* the last Apple developer conference - Lion was just as much a topic that was covered as any iOS device. APple is pushing hard for developers to ALSO support that platform.
That was an exception to the DMCA granted by the Library of Congress,
Which s
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Questioning Jobs is not allowed on Slashdot.
Sure it is, I've done it before. The funny thing about Apple Haters is that they are truly the ones with a "cult of Jobs", you are obviously obsessed (not in a good way) with him. To me he's been a really good CEO with generally good ideas, but he will head out and Apple will carry on.
THAT THIS DECISION HAD TO BE MADE SHOWS APPLE'S INTENTIONS
No, it was simply a clarification. The reality is that Apple never did anything to go after jail breakers or the people
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I expect that if the Library of Congress had agreed with Apple, they would have started machinegunning DMCA notices.
Sad, isn't it? Known security holes aren't patched, but are relied upon to get out of Apple's lockdown.
Obviously they do care, as they are fixing a lot of the jailbreaks. But at the same time
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I didn't think I needed to make a point about those. Also, the bit in your topic is a non-sequitor (I don't recall GE ever attacking people publicly over microwave microntroller hacking.)
Rather, you've bought into Apple's mantra that mobile devices are somehow "special" and "need" to be locked down. They are exactly what I think they are, just crippled. Apparently others agree, otherwise Jailbreaks wouldn't exist.
Apparently 200 million people disagree (Score:2)
Or else Apple wouldn't have sold that many iOS devices.
Why can't you live with the fact that there are a lot of people out there who like the walled garden when it comes to the intrinsically limited device that they carry around in their pocket? Why can't you understand that making it easy to load untrusted code onto an iOS device would also make it easy to have the same problems with crappy spyware/spamware/viruses/etc. that PCs suffer from? It's not like there aren't alternatives. Go buy one.
Have you ever
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Ah yes, because numbers make someone right.
I don't care if they like it or not. If you hadn't noticed, the entire industry seems intent on cramming such walled gardens down our throats. Of course, what I want is simply the ability to opt out, which Apple et. al. don't give.
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Apple's refusal after saying they would make 64bit APIs for certain GUI. The reason why Photoshop had to skip a 64bit version for OS X and completely rewrite their UI for OS X in the next major version so it could do 64bit.
You mean Carbon? Apple never promised a 64 bit version of Carbon, and indeed Carbon was always intended as a temporary API to get developers over from OS 9. And that was more than 10 years ago. Adobe was at fault for not moving on when nearly every other developer had. Adobe wrongly thought they had the clout to make Apple do the work of continuing Carbon so they wouldn't have to do the work of modernising Photoshop.
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Nerds Love Mobile UNIX and POWER (Score:2)
It's too bad they had to go and declare true nerds the enemy with their iProducts.
You have no idea what the hell you are talking about. That's still a very powerful UNIX platform.
True nerds don't care about locks; they unlock them instead of whining about the existence of same. What matters is what's inside when you unlock it. Still UNIX? Yep.
What you really don't realize is that for the nerd having almost all the iPhone software written in Objective-C is a huge, huge nerd advantage - because you can
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Nerds love Open Source (Score:2)
No, we care about locks. Which is, partly, why we appreciate open source.
Few people care as much about open source as I do. I contribute to the FSF every year, do you?
One of the great things about the iPhone as a platform is there is a TON of open source to do things, and it's built on top of a lot of open source technologies (like Webkit and GCD).
All the major players in mobile are locked down to some degree, so I focus on what I can DO with a platform. And there the iPhone excels.
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When you need to jailbreak a device because the company that makes the product doesn't "approve" of a lot of software out there, that is a clear sign of the company standing for being closed and against freedom. I am not talking about clearly negative software that is harmful to users, I am talking about Apple saying "we don't ALLOW this because we don't like it".
Apple is following the lead of the Chinese government, where a company or individual can get their applications banned from the Apple App Store
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You do.
iOS developers who pay $100 for limited access to their own devices. Last I checked, you had to sign these with developer certificates that had a limited runtime and limited redistribution abilities. So you are restricted, even after becoming a "developer."
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But unlike OS X, they refuse to give it to you. They fight you over it, making you waste time breaking their locks while funding them at the same time.
But why? Why should people support a company that tried to get the DMCA to apply to Jailbeaks? Why should they have to hack around deliberately placed locks to regain
Re:Nerds Love Mobile UNIX and POWER (Score:4, Interesting)
> Apple is very hostile to advanced, technical users,
> no matter how you slice it.
Really? Here's an exercise. Compare & contrast:
Sony's treatment of Playstaytion jailbreakers.
vs.
Apple's treatment of iOS jailbreakers.
The MPAA's reactions towards DVD Jon and DeCSS.
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Apple's reactions towards DVD Jon and QTFairUse
Microsoft's policies towards X-Boxes known to have been jailbroken.
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Apple's policies towards iPhones known to have been jailbroken.
Re:Nerds Love Mobile UNIX and POWER (Score:4, Interesting)
Can I play?
Sony's treatment of Playstaytion jailbreakers.
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Apple's treatment of iOS jailbreakers.
Sony prosecuted jailbreakers. Apple didn't.
The MPAA's reactions towards DVD Jon and DeCSS.
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Apple's reactions towards DVD Jon and QTFairUse
MPAA prosecuted. Apple didn't.
Microsoft's policies towards X-Boxes known to have been jailbroken.
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Apple's policies towards iPhones known to have been jailbroken.
Microsoft withdrew already paid for online services from jailbreakers. Apple didn't.
You make a fine point.
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I guess this is the abused Apple fanboy form of Stockholm syndrome.
Re:Nerds Love Mobile UNIX and POWER (Score:4, Funny)
Why should they have to hack around deliberately placed locks to regain functionality that would otherwise exist by default?
As an Android user rooting their own phone first, then get back to me.
Why buy from a company that is hostile towards you?
Why would I indeed? I wouldn't.
I buy from Apple because they are VERY friendly toward the nerd in how they build systems and the flexibility I derive from them. They are one of the few companies left that really appreciates quality of design in hardware and software together.
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Beats me about that too, unsurprisingly I don't own an Android device. I bought an N900, which I was able to get Root access trivially and without relying on any exploits.
Yet you do. You buy into Apple's locked down mobile space.
Except that in the mobile space they explicitly deny
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Apple is very hostile to advanced, technical users, no matter how you slice it.
Apple does not recognize an "advanced technical users" category of iOS users. They have regular users and iOS developers.
Hmm, so not hostile then. More passive aggressive?
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FinalCut seems to be going the same way too.
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Oh, oh. The Apple fanboy brigade is on the march, downmodding my critical posts!
Yeah well. If exceptional means "special" (Score:2)
If you think OSX is unix, you never used unix. Apple really went to town on the cute and innocent opensource OS like a pedo on a 4yr old and turned it into a twisted psycho vision of itself.
OSX is not Unix. Go ahead and use it, you will find many many things changed to accomodate the single (active) user nature of OSX.
Oh and Apple provides an exceptional UNIX out of the box?
Really? Where is the cli on the iPhone? On the iPad? On the iPod? Oh, just on their PC's... well that is actually just a small section
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If you think OSX is unix, you never used unix.
Well I've extensively used and programmed on various flavors of Linux, AIX, HPUX, and BSD... that's besides the HP/MPE and VMS systems (which of course are not UNIX but broaden the mind) but if you think somehow I need more experience please list what I am missing. Frankly I am thinking you probably have way to narrow a definition of UNIX.
Go ahead and use it, you will find many many things changed to accomodate the single (active) user nature of OSX.
Yes, many t
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OSX is not Unix.
Guess what. Linux Is Not UniX. OSX on the other hand is a fully certified version of UNIX.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_UNIX_Specification [wikipedia.org]
Really? Where is the cli on the iPhone? On the iPad? On the iPod?
iOS isn't Unix. It's derived from OSX with is Unix, but it's had all the things that are unnecessary for a smartphone stripped out, such as the cli and cli supporting executables.
But once again, OSX *IS* Unix.
Oh, just on their PC's... well that is actually just a small section then of their total market.
What the fuck has the size of the market vs consumer smartphones got to do with it? Guess what? Unix is a niche. It ain't mass market for anybody. But OSX has
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If you think OSX is unix, you never used unix
If you've used OS X 10.5 on Intel with the developer tools installed, then you've used UNIX. It is certified by The Open Group as conforming to the latest version of the Single UNIX Specification.
OSX is not Unix. Go ahead and use it, you will find many many things changed to accomodate the single (active) user nature of OSX.
Name one. One example of where OS X deviates from UNIX in any way other than adding things. Not ways in which OS X deviates from UNIX other than by adding things on top. Not ways in which OS X is not like Linux. Not ways in which OS X is not like Solaris or other BSD variants.
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http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2007/08/mac-os-x-leopard-receives-unix-03-certification.ars [arstechnica.com]
I think Mac OS X is Unix because the Open Group that certifies operating systems as "Unix" said so. Despite the protests of random slashdot poster #593017.
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So what are you doing here?
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Apple fans - this is a website for nerds. Not for hipsters.
If you don't want them here, why are you baiting them?
The whys and wherefores (Score:2)
If you don't want them here, why are you baiting them?
He secretly desperately desires a Mac, but he cannot yet come out of the iCloset he has put himself into.
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Opening Paragraph:
Apple has just announced that the company’s 200 million iOS users have downloaded over 15 billion apps from its App Store, including both iPad and iPhone apps. The App Store currently includes more than 425,000 apps, with over 100,000 native iPad apps.
And 50? You should see some peoples phones. I've seen people with 50 folders.
Not to mention App Store is now available for OS X and Apple is starting to release all their stuff through it. (iMovie, Final Cut Pro, etc)
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Well, people like me are probably skewing the stats a bit.
A quick examination of my "Mobile Applications" folder in my iTunes library shows it's 310GB in size with nearly 21K files in it.
That's nearly 21 *THOUSAND* apps.
And I've spent less than $100 in total in the app store. Most of those 21K apps are apps marked down to free temporarily (sites like appshopper are terrible for this - you can easily grab a ton of apps that used to cost money and are temporarily free).
Hell, I suppose if I were to price that
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When any web page that has Flash apps on it requires an App because the devices don't have Flash on them, the numbers are flawed, even if accurate. If you take every web page that has a Flash application on it, including Speedtest.net, you could argue that each of these web pages are considered an app on devices that DO support Flash, since you can make a link to those pages to run the Flash version.
So, how many thousands of Flash apps are there on web pages out there? Can we now add them to the total
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Using flash right now on Android.to play a game.
Guess you dont have a point.
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that someday, we will have real news for nerds, things that matter, instead of every fart from Jobs and Apple.
To be fair, this article is more of an Apple shart. There's the relief of the order of 15B, but something got away at the same time, something that they would have rather kept in.