Apple To Hold iPhone 4 Press Conference 324
teh31337one noted an Engadget report that Apple has announced an
iPhone 4 Press Conference for Friday at 10am PT where presumably they will address all this wacky antenna stuff that has been happening.
Private Conference (Score:3, Funny)
They discussed about the problem, what they intent to do about it and some technical details too. It wasn't exactly unusual from Apple, but here is more info [tinypic.com] for anyone interested.
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Will be a hard pill to swallow... (Score:5, Insightful)
Will be a hard pill for Apple to swallow after the hyped up outlandish claims about the new antenna design
"People have asked, 'What's this?' Some have even said, 'This doesn't seem like Apple.' What are these lines in this beautiful stainless steel band?
Well, it turns out there's not just one of them, there's three of them. And they are part of the entire structure of this phone. That stainless steel band that runs around is the primary structural element of the phone, and there are these three slits in it.
It turns out this is part of some brilliant engineering, which actually uses the stainless steel band as part of the antenna system. And so, one piece is Bluetooth, wifi, and GPS, and the other is UMTS and GSM. So it's got these integrated antennas right in the structure of the phone.
It's never been done before and it's really cool engineering."
Will be really hard to acknowledge a defect after all that hype.
Re:Will be a hard pill to swallow... (Score:5, Interesting)
Well to make a long story short hot and cold air make steal expand and contract. Also, steal is a pour insulator. Not only did this house pop, creak, and groan when ever the heat or AC was turned on, the house needed them all the time because it got full sun in summer and high wind exposure in winter and the whole structure was built like a giant heat sink.
The lesson of this story? Design for functionality first, and if your design is highly functional it will have a cool all it's own.
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To be fair, almost every building material expands and contracts with temperature (and sometimes with moisture), but there are generally ways to design around it. That being said, trying to use structural elements as your a/c ducts is a terrible idea for a few reasons. As you said, steel is a terrible insulator, you'd likely have some serious condensation issues, and there's no way those steel tubes had anywhere near the cross section for efficient airflow. The fan units would probably have to push a ridicu
Re:Will be a hard pill to swallow... (Score:4, Insightful)
Also, this is a geek website. We tend to like things to be correct.
And finally - most importantly - being corrected is not something anyone should take offence to. It is part of the way we learn and become better skilled at anything we do. Being indignant because someone offered advice or information is entirely wrong - there was no malice that I can see in the GP's post - it was blunt, maybe, but it was informative.
Re:Will be a hard pill to swallow... (Score:4, Insightful)
Which is why it won't happen. Here's how I predict things going down:
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Which is why it won't happen. Here's how I predict things going down:
I like the Microsoft process:
Simple and direct.
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Don't worry, many governments are seeking to diminish its abilities...
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It may end up just requiring a change behind the scenes to make it work as intended, in which case it is still pretty awesome engineering.
Or you can just apply a bit of duct tape, as Consumer Reports suggested. If that's too inelegant for you, you could follow Apple's earlier suggestion, and get one of those silicone "bumper" wrappers, which would also help protect the iPhone from damage. Both apparently fix the antenna problem by preventing contact with your (electrically conducting) hand.
I'd think you'd
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Hopefully (Score:5, Funny)
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the correct Apple sanctioned gripping position
[Beavis and Butthead]Huh..huhuhuhuh...
[/Beavis and Butthead]
Re:Hopefully (Score:5, Funny)
I heard they were going to announce an app to allow IPhone users to use the compass and GPS to locate the nearest public phone box on a map.
[Disclaimer, I got this from somewhere else, but can't find the link to credit.]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCYD3kAnR5U [youtube.com] - fake ad for a payphone finder app ;).
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Marco: "Commissar. I have rehabilitated another group of the party's enemies."
Murphy: "Ha haaaa! Yeah! What does rehabilitated mean again?"
Marco: "Beaten the asses of."
Murphy: "I love newspeak."
...
...
Murphy: "Now, if you'll excuse me, we need to rehabilitate Phil...in the face."
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Not the first, it just has the sleekest design.
Re:Hopefully (Score:5, Funny)
Well.. Hello.. iphone yada yada... we are so fucking rich yada yada yada... itunes yada yada yada... and I almost forgot, you can buy
a silicon shell which fixes the reception problems from our store, for only 30$, you can buy it now...
thank you for your attendence...
Jobs walks off crowd goes crazy...
At best... (Score:2)
Everyone complaining gets a 30-50$ gift certificate for the Apple Store to buy the 30$ rubber thingy for their JesusPhone.
Which is cunningly priced almost exactly the same as another highly sought after Apple item. [apple.com]
BTW... there is a joke in there somewhere about iPhone needing a rubber band to stay up and online.
You beat me to it... (Score:2)
I saw that headline and logged in to make basically the same joke...
"I hope they hold they hold it properly, or else they may find they get a poor reception from the press."
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No, they want to lock everyone that comes in, and pretend they didn't come ;) Control the toublemakers, and the herd will obey
I don't think Gizmodo got an invite. They're the ones they want to lock away
Worst Case Scenario: (Score:5, Funny)
"We are proud to announce the iPhone 5..."
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Funny. People seems to have more problems with products in version 4...
But Netscape 4 was amazing! Hmm, wait...
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Netscape 4 was amazing... But it was the IE 6 of Netscape... When it was new it was a really great Browser New Clean UI, with great new HTML features added in. The problem was Netscape 5... Errr. Mozilla 5... Err Netscape 6... Took Years to deploy. By the time it was out IE 6 was already out and had 2 versions underneath it.
Netscape 4 was a good browser. It only seems like it sucked because it was the latest and greatest version for Way too long.
But version 4 seems likes a troubled version for some reason
Re:Worst Case Scenario: (Score:4, Interesting)
Sorry, Netscape 4 was a disaster. I can't even remember how many updates were pushed until it was usable.
From a developer point of view, it had so many bugs that makes IE6 pale in comparison. There was a resize bug that mangled the content if the window was resized and developers had to trigger a page reload by javascript. Absolutely-positioned DIVs did not display properly unless they had a border. And this is just some stuff I can remember. Then there were proprietary tags, like LAYER.
Netscape Communicator 4 made me use IE4 and Outlook. That's how bad it was.
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I can remember that Netbeans and Winamp sort of jumped from v3 to v4.
Winamp skipped version 4 entirely... the reason being they did not want users to submit any "Winamp 4 skins". :)
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Best Case Scenario: (Score:2)
"We have decided to sell the iPhone, without a required carrier contract. Just pick a carrier that you like based on the services they offer, their coverage, and experiences that you have had with them. Of course, we will continue to offer bundled offerings for those who want them."
"Oh, and we will be releasing a free SDK, so anyone can write their own apps for it."
I guess that should be the dream on scenario.
If rumours are to be believed.. (Score:4, Interesting)
Some googling found this:
http://gizmodo.com/5586256/is-apple-silently-recalling-the-iphone-4-now [gizmodo.com]
I think I first heard it via The Register.
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They better get this right. (Score:5, Insightful)
Be honest about what went wrong, and do right by the customers. Goodwill is the single most valuable asset a business can possess.
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A good reputation is the most valuable asset. You can have all the goodwill in the world, but if don't produce... goodbye.
Re:They better get this right. (Score:5, Funny)
... and in close second is $25 billion in cash reserves.
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Oh, yes, I imagine goodwill will get them far here on /. Before you pretend like there is anything that they can do to appease the "gotcha" masses, a lot of people here need to take a deep breath and consider their own goodwill. If they do the right thing (I'm not even sure what that could be at this point), will you admit it, or will you gloat, or will you just find something else to complain about?
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If they do the right thing (I'm not even sure what that could be at this point), will you admit it, or will you gloat, or will you just find something else to complain about?
You appear to fail to consider the gloating _and_ finding something else to complain about option that most here will select...
What reception will it get? (Score:5, Funny)
I hope they hold it in the right spot. It's not going to get a very good reception otherwise.
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lolwut (Score:5, Insightful)
Apple's response so far seems to indicate (in my opinion, of course) that they have gotten too comfortable in their market position. "People will buy our shit no matter what, why should we fork out the cash to fix this?" is the vibe I got off them.
It will be interesting to see what they have to say tomorrow.
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Seriously, how much testing could they have done to not notice this problem? Even if they are too comfortable and don't care, even the crappiest of the crappy give-away for free shrinkwrapped at wal-mart brick sized tinker-toy phones don't have a problem with reception based on HOW YOU HOLD IT.
How about make a few and have people USE THEM for a bit.Try them out. Use them in real-world situations.
Oh, wait, they did and then the phones got l
Re:lolwut (Score:5, Interesting)
The problem is that AT&T installed a tower right behind the Cupertino HQ, which provides them with excellent signal strength while on their campus.
The phones that made it out into the wild were apparently disguised as iPhone 3Gs, and because of this testers were unlikely to see this problem. As we're now aware, putting a case on it hides the defect. Their famous secrecy caused this problem for them.
New iPhone team slogan: "Test different[ly]"?
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Re:lolwut (Score:5, Interesting)
Given that they cannot make new iPhones fast enough and people are not lining up to return their new iPhones, who can blame Apple for their response?
I know about 20 people with new iPhones and all of them are thrilled. When I ask them about their reception they all tell me that they have never experienced a problem unless they go out of their way to try and reproduce the phenomenon (engineers, so you know they will try)... but even then, no dropped calls. All of these people, BTW, had older iPhones previously and they all say the the new iPhone has far superior call quality - contrary to the Consumer Reports claim.
I don't have an iPhone and have no interests in one (which makes me somewhat like 90% of the people complaining about the iPhone). In fact, I quite dislike the iPhone, for other geeky technical reasons. I'm not an Apple fanboi, though I do own Macintoshes (full disclosure). However, I think I'm pretty objective, so sorry if this sounds like I'm defending something Steve Jobs said... My Samsung also has a death grip where reception is greatly diminished. Similarly, my Blackberry before that had one (maybe two). In fact, as far back as I can remember, every cell phone I've ever used has had reception problems when I held it in certain ways in certain conditions. Usually I can detect this before my call drops and shift my grip. I'm not convinced that the new iPhone is any worse.
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Bingo! In order to reproduce this flaw, I have to:
1) Take my iPhone 4 out of its case. The very first thing I did when I had it in hand was put it in the (rather nice, actually... nicer than the one I'd ordered earlier in the week.) case that Dexim's promotions guys were handing out to people in the line.
2) Disconnect my headset. About 90% of the time I don't hold my iPhone like a phone, but use either my bluetooth or wired headset so my hands are free to take notes or type or look stuff up on the net or d
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Stop the presses! Slashdot user joeyblades (785896) has an anecdote. Seriously, when did anecdotal evidence warrant a +5 on slashdot? This place is going downhill.
There are studies by Consumer Reports, Ars Technica, and who knows how many other reputable organizations using sound methodology to prove the existence of this reception issue. Why
Re:lolwut (Score:4, Insightful)
Dude. Chill.
I never said that there was no problem. I said that all phones seem to have a problem. I have not seen any evidence that the iPhone 4 problems are any worse... and yes, I did read the Consumer Reports article that said that they tested several other phones... what they failed to mention is how thorough they were at testing all the various configurations of user interaction and carrier strength...
Being an electrical engineer with considerable experience in the field, I know how impossible such tests are, so yes - I tend to discount it when Consumer Reports tries to make it sound like this is some exclusively iPhone 4 problem.
BTW, please look up the definition of anecdotal. You seem to be confused. What I described is more than an anecdote. What I described was a number of engineers (all electrical engineers, BTW) who conducted various user mode experiments to try and replicate the problem. That is hardly anecdotal.
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Anecdotal evidence is when you tell us a story that regardless of whether or not it is verifiably true, insufficiently supports the conclusion you're drawing. In your OP you appeared to be generalizing and casting doubt on the legitimacy of the reception issue based solely on the experiences of your acquaintances. Maybe you didn't mean to doubt the legitimacy of the issue, but that's how it read. And it doesn't matter how qualified your acquaintances are at testing smartphones. Until they produce a scientif
Look at the monkey! (Score:2, Insightful)
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The monkey might not be enough this time...
ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!
Engage Reality Distortion Field (Score:2)
T-minus 4.25 hours and counting...
Last verse, same as the first... (Score:5, Insightful)
If Apple were the kind of company to admit mistakes and fix problems, we'd have some word on resolving the iPhone 4 issues already. Instead, 'holding it wrong' and bumpers for everyone.
This has, at best chance, to be a press conference releasing the white iPhone 4.
And if I'm wrong, I'll gladly accept some egg on my face, and those in disagreement all get to say "I told you so."
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I'll register myself as in disagreement, ready to have my "I told you so" tomorrow.
The white iPhone 4 has been announced already. No way they hold a press conference just to say that they are shipping it.
I suggest this will give a definitive answer to the investigations they have made into the antenna problem. En estimate of how many/few people are affected. And statement on what they are going to do about it, including a restatement of money back if dissatisfied, possible manufacturing changes, and a free
Just return it already. (Score:4, Insightful)
What I don't get is for all those people complaining, why they don't return the damn thing. Honestly, given the iPhone 4 is out less than 30 days (well within most return periods) and the antenna problem surfaced the next day and was fleshed out the next week, it seems stupid that people would willingly hold onto it.
So what if there's a 3-week waiting period for it? You expect some fix? With a lawsuit silencing Apple, there's not much you can do and not much you can expect them to do without jeopardizing their case. And it certainly won't come in the 8 days left you have to return it (most offer 30 day return policies).
I have plenty of iPods, Macs, iPhones and an iPad. Even I don't see the point in waiting for a fix that may never come - just return it already and get on with life. Your old phone still works, so use it until Apple either fixes it or when the iPhone 5 comes out next year.
I know complaining is fun, but is being stuck in a 2-year contract with a phone that doesn't meet your basic needs fun? I think that's stupid. Also stupid are those who buy an iPhone 4 knowing this problem (I'll be generous and say since this week, when CR's non-recommendation hit the news everywhere (and if you didn't hear it, you probably don't know about the iPhone 4 either) and then complain about it.
Gizmodo has a nice writeup of return policies for the iPhone - http://gizmodo.com/5574502/remember-you-can-always-return-your-new-iphone [gizmodo.com] - maybe the ones who can complain would be those who bought at Best Buy and RadioShack for they get screwed with the restocking fee. But AT&T and Apple don't.
Fake (or real) Steve Jobs said it right - "It's just a phone. Not worth it." If it's dropping calls as bad as the complaints are, return it. If you're happy, great. If you're complaining because it's cool and trendy, I've got better things to do in life. Given that, I'm guessing it can't be that big a problem at all with the 3-week wait for it, which would imply that there won't be a recall. Unless people are really that stupid and will fork out nearly $2000 over 2 years for something they could've just avoided. It's not a life or death situation nor a necessity (a phone might, but what were you using before?).
Vote with your wallet and return it. Apple probably won't fix it in time so you can return it. I suggest returning it while you still can rather than waiting for a recall that may or may not happen at all.
I guess I'm tired of complainers who don't see the most obvious solution to their problem. Sure it's nice if Apple fixes it, but why rely on that?
You may be right but still I'll bet against you... (Score:3, Informative)
First off, thanks for at least acknowledging the possibility that you might be wrong and that Apple may, in fact, try to address this issue. Too many fanbois have ruined this part of Slasdot by spewing vitriol and what can only be described as hate. No light, just heat.
I think that Apple will address the issue because this special conference is being called on extremely short notice (with MacNN calling it an "emergency press conference"). Having not seen the actual wording, I can't say for certain but ag
Text from announcement (it was $100 credit) (Score:3, Informative)
"...we need to do a better job taking care of our early iPhone customers as we aggressively go after new ones with a lower price. Our early customers trusted us, and we must live up to that trust with our actions in moments like these.
Therefore, we have decided to offer every iPhone customer who purchased an iPhone from either Apple or AT&T, and who is not receiving a rebate or any other consideration, a $100 store credit towards the purchase of any product at an Apple Retail Store or the Apple Online S
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>> "holding it wrong"
I keep seeing this quoted around like gospel. As far as I know, Jobs' e-mail response to a specific complaint about the so-called "death grip" was "don't hold it that way", which is different in tone and meaning.
-dZ.
Re:Last verse, same as the first... (Score:5, Informative)
Ask, and ye shall receive [arstechnica.com].
Re:Last verse, same as the first... (Score:4, Informative)
From Apple's press release, which is equivalent to the word of Steve Jobs, and in summary is saying "You're holding it wrong."
press conference? (Score:5, Funny)
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are they going to play for miami heat too?
This is slashdot. We don't understand your sports pop culture reference.
Wht they will tell us (Score:2, Interesting)
Place your bets! Spin the wheel! (Score:2)
Where will the spin spinner land? Downplay? Recall announcement? User's fault? Free rubber-thingy? iPhone 5 announcement?
Will try explain that this flaw got through the process because the ONE iPhone4 prototype was "stolen" which caused problems in the process?
I am seriously considering starting my day late for this one. (okay, not really...)
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Free rubber-thingy?
Cue mental image of an iphone in a condom...
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A press conference to announce a price rise of $21 for the rubber thing?
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC597ZM/A?mco=MTgxOTQ0ODA [apple.com]
More like a price drop of $29. I suspect these will be given away free. Easiest possible fix.
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Just don't hold the conference that way (Score:2, Funny)
Eh, Mr Jobs?
Signal Bar replacement. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Signal Bar replacement. (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah, first the iphone was left in a bar, and now the bars have left the iphone! That can only happen to magical devices.
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The signal bar has now been replaced with a Mana bar.
Does the mana bar refill itself or do you have to rest at an inn?
In the press conference.. (Score:5, Funny)
Training session (Score:2)
Glass, glass everywhere (Score:4, Interesting)
I'm interested to see if they say anything about the glass on the new iPhone.
From what I've seen so far, the device cannot withstand a simple 6ft drop test onto a concrete floor. This is a fairly standard test, isn't particularly hard and ensures that the phone survives the daily wear and tear of being out and about all the time.
To be clear, we're not talking about throwing it onto the floor here, but if it slips out of your pockets and bounces on the floor then there is a (not unrealistic) expectation that it'll survive - especially when you've paid several hundred UK pounds on a phone and tied yourself into an 18 month contract.
I appreciate my data is anecdotal at best, but I've seen quite a few people now with shattered fronts or backs [technmarketing.com] caused by a simple drop onto the floor.
Six Foot Drop!? (Score:5, Funny)
From what I've seen so far, the device cannot withstand a simple 6ft drop test onto a concrete floor.
Six feet!? That's quite a drop!
To be clear, we're not talking about throwing it onto the floor here, but if it slips out of your pockets and bounces on the floor then there is a (not unrealistic) expectation that it'll survive - especially when you've paid several hundred UK pounds on a phone and tied yourself into an 18 month contract.
Oooh, you're British. Now everything makes sense, I just forgot to convert feet to.. wait, what?
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Its pretty typical to test a phone being dropped from 3-5 feet - here's a video of that process at another company: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1sz5c-R9h0 [youtube.com]
There's another video floating around of Nokia testing doing similar things.
Re:Glass, glass everywhere (Score:4, Informative)
I've already conducted this test twice unintentionally with the new iPhone, sans bumper (I generally use one, so during two separate incidents I butterfingered on the new glass). Two six foot falls onto marble with zero protection, both times landing flatly face down, not on an edge. Not so much as a scratch either time.
The plural of anecdote is not data, but after my experiences I'm somewhat skeptical of any claims about reduced fracture strength with the new glass. It's difficult to imagine a worse scenario that still falls within the confines of everyday wear-and-tear.
--Ryvar
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I'm curious to what they'll announce (Score:3, Insightful)
The antenna issue is the most visible problem, but the proximity sensor problem is also troubling. I'm hopeful that it'll be solved by software update.
The antenna is a hardware problem and it's not going to be fixed by software, however many bars the screen displays. The one call I've made on it was choppy as hell until I repositioned my hand, then it was clear as a bell. I'm holding off on buying a case for my phone until I see what Apple announces.
I'm sure there's an iPhone 4.1 in development. These problems won't exist on iPhones sold in a few months.
Here's a guess: Could these problems have been overlooked because of their field testing? The field units were placed in dummy cases which would have prevented physical contact with the antenna.
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I just picked up my iPhone 4 last night and verified all the problems that have been reported.
If you're aware of all the problems, let me ask you this: Why?
I'm not even trying to troll here.
Re:I'm curious to what they'll announce (Score:5, Interesting)
It's one thing to point out a product flaw, it's another thing to point out an APPLE product flaw. There seems to be a circle-jerk sadistic kind of glee in a lot of coverage about the problems. It borders on ridiculous ridicule of Apple/Jobs/iPhone "fanboys" etc. and I now add a large grain of salt to just about all of it. If you've read the comments so far, you no doubt know what I'm taking about.
And yes, I meant "ridiculous ridicule". for example, cnn.com was presenting video of some dweeb wrapping his phone in duct tape. It's ridicule of the iPhone, but it's ridiculous in and of itself. After seeing stuff like that, it's easier to think the complaints are overhyped or even bullshit.
So I figured I'd try the phone myself. I want the new processor, better camera, etc. and I know from previous experience that Apple is a safe bet to do right by the customer (even more so if I'm within the return period :) ).
Re:I'm curious to what they'll announce (Score:5, Interesting)
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Here's a guess: Could these problems have been overlooked because of their field testing? The field units were placed in dummy cases which would have prevented physical contact with the antenna.
Not even Apple is so dumb to not look at the dBm numbers when lab-testing the first phone with an external antenna as part of the case. Not testing for what difference the hand/grip of the user makes here is totally unthinkable. Really. That this thing works at all is already a miracle, you don't get this by accident.
No, this is either a design tradeoff they just accepted or part of the phones aren't made to spec. Or a bit of both.
I think the proximity sensor issue is worse than the antenna issue, even if
What about waiting another day? (Score:2)
I mean, the iPhone isn't out even one month yet, the antenna issue is in no way clearly understood by anyone. Rushing out a fix or a new hardware revision or even doing a recall of a few million iPhones is nothing you do within weeks. This is just impossible.
Just assume that this is caused by some parts being not always made to spec and this being corrected now (there are reports of replacement phones now looking slightly different and not having the antenna issue). How on earth should Apple get two or thre
technobabble... (Score:3, Funny)
"...they will address all this wacky Antenna stuff..."
Woah! Slow down there Mr. Wizard. I need Laymans terms, none of that bullshit techno-jargon that we can't understand...
Nintenodo gave away (Score:2)
It will go something like this... (Score:5, Insightful)
Someone who is not Steve Jobs takes the stage...
1. The iPhone for is our most successful iPhone ever. First day sales figures.
2. iPhone 4 has better reception than any phone we've shipped.
3. The reports of problems have been massively overblown.
4. Still, even though there is not a problem, you can have a $30 giftcard and buy a bumper with it if you want.
5. Some unrelated but big announcement to redirect attention (iPhone on Verizon, it will now come in green, etc.)
I am happy with my iPhone 4, but.... (Score:3, Interesting)
... I will gladly take a handout, in whatever form.
Today I was in a restaurant I go to every week. For the first time ever I actually had a signal in the restaurant. My 3GS never once got a signal here. I didn't try holding my iPhone with my left hand, but I don't doubt I would have lost the signal had I done so, because it was only 1 bar. I was able to browse the web (a bit slowly) and even play a 48 kbps AAC+ audio stream while doing so.
So, sure, pick it up with my left hand or otherwise bridge the gap and I'm sure I'd have had had no signal, but then that's exactly what I had before regardless of how I held it or didn't hold it with the 3GS - no signal. The iPhone 4 gave me a signal as long as I was careful not to bridge the gap. I don't see how you can view that as worse. Maybe if worse = better, then it was indeed worse.
If you read other recent posts of mine you'll see that I've had similar experiences all over the place. My iPhone 4 picks up a signal in more places, and the signal is usable and reliable in more places. It is a better phone.
Now... I will be happy if they announce a fix, perhaps requiring a recall. If they are going to make the phone even better, I'm all for that. Also I'll be happy if they say we get a $30 credit at the Apple store too. Sounds good to me. I'll also be fine if they just say that people are reporting that they are happy with the phone, because I am very happy with mine. Actually, no, I'll be disappointed, because who doesn't want a handout?
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Well you cant exactly ask the phone companies for their numbers and give them a call now can you?
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thank you :)
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Indeed. And if only we'd had the rumour post to a blog that had pointed out how they were gathering journalists and ordering in a batch of microphones, so then we could then endlessly speculating that we might possibly soon have a news story about a future press conference where they possibly announce some news about a possible product.
Slashdot, the Rumour Mill for Apple users.
Re:err (Score:5, Funny)
It used to be the news site for Linux, until it became apparent hardly anyone is interested in that any more.
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And the moderation proves it - poking fun at Linux is funny, but heaven forbid we point out that Windows and Nokia are the market leaders, not Apple.
It's a fact. Your mod points don't change that.
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Then why is vista a slow turd on most hardware, even modestly up-to-date hardware, yet win7 runs well enough on even a 6 or 7 y/o 1.6ghz P4 with 1GB of ddr333 ram(I've done it)?
Why are OEM's putting 7 on netbooks but no-one dreamed of doing it with vista?
Same core? Really? Maybe it's the same in some ways but it sure seems different to me.
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Arg, I had a response typed up but I rebooted my computer while diagnosing an issue with an application.
It went a little something like this:
Given those exact words, people under the influence of the RDF will interpret it like so:
Ladies and gentlemen,
We have determined that the problem only occurs if you hold it in an unusual way.
We now stock iPhone 4 cases in the Apple Store. This will protect your phone from the effects of being held wrong!
The iPhone 5 will solve all your problems! It's insanely great!