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Round 2 of Apple's Lost '1984' Series 183

Posted by timothy from the nostalgia-smells-like-beige-plastic dept.
webertk421 writes "The second set of lost 1984 videos has been released. This set again needs more mirrors (I still can't download the torrent files). According to the descriptions, the clips include Steve Jobs reciting some Dylan, showing the well known 1984 commercial, and 'Manuals,' another commercial that almost aired instead."
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Round 2 of Apple's Lost '1984' Series

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  • Dylan (Score:5, Funny)

    by Electroly ( 708000 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @04:59AM (#11616365)
    Damnit. Saw Dylan, thought of the programming language. I need to get out more.
    • Thank God I'm not the only one, then.

      • Re:Dylan (Score:2, Insightful)

        by quigonn ( 80360 )
        Well, me too, as "Dylan" in the Apple context is way more likely the language than anything else, since they invented it.

      • Re:Dylan (Score:2, Funny)

        by qray ( 805206 )
        Same here. Reminds of the time I was driving down the highway and saw a sign "DSL $1.99" And couldn't believe someone was selling Internet access that low. Hopping to see a phone # I then realized the sign was at a gas station. My next thought was how odd that a gas station would branch into the internet access business. Then it finally hit, they were selling diesel, not "DSL".

        --
        snogwa togbram mibra brockno
    • I saw Dylan and thought of a guitar playing rabbit from a kids TV show [rsc.co.uk]. It was very odd to think that Jobs was reciting some of his stuff.

    • Re:Dylan (Score:3, Interesting)

      by stand ( 126023 )

      I wondered: Bob Dylan or Dylan Thomas? Do I need to get out more?

      • Re:Dylan (Score:3, Insightful)

        by g00z ( 81380 )
        "When you say Dylan, he thinks your talking about Dylan Thomas...whoever he was. The man ain't got no culture"

        Oh Paul Simon.. remember when you were cool? You know -- before you started letting Chevy Chase hang out in your music videos while you played a keytar?
      • Do I need to get out more?

        Only if this [sourceforge.net] came to mind first.

        It's Apple, but off by a decade.

  • Warning: (Score:1, Offtopic)

    by p!ngu ( 854287 )
    Apples may be Insanely Great!

  • Torrent mirrors (Score:4, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @05:02AM (#11616374)
    torrent mirrors [geekissues.org]

    • Re:Torrent mirrors (Score:1, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Mirrors on 100mbit link here:
      http://eddie.ratm.net/slashdot/ [ratm.net]

      For those who can't run bittorent from work :)
    • Am I the only one who noticed that in the process of requesting torrent mirrors, the original poster admitted that even they hadn't watched the videos? So now, not only does everyone else on slashdot post without bothering to RTFA (or in this case WTFV), now even the article submitters don't bother! Wow.

  • NeXT Cube Introduction? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by green pizza ( 159161 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @05:09AM (#11616395) Homepage
    Does anyone know of a video of Steve Jobs' original NeXT Cube introduction from 1988? I read about it in the book, "Steve Jobs and the NeXT Big Thing" and it sounded like it was just as impressive as the original Macintosh introduction.

    Another cool video would be the Pixar Imaging Computer, which, naturally, was also cube shaped!

    • PIXAR Imaging Computer (Score:5, Interesting)

      by green pizza ( 159161 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @05:12AM (#11616412) Homepage
      For those who are curious, here's a photo of the beast:
      http://www.3dnews.ru/documents/8124/pic-16.jpg [3dnews.ru]

      And another photo with a Sun E450 and Sun SPARCstation 5 for reference:
      http://www.nenv.k.u-tokyo.ac.jp/bis/kaoru/kizai01/ images/pixar.jpg [u-tokyo.ac.jp]
      • You wouldn't happen to have the specs for that baby would you?
        • Its been a while, but ISTRC 32-bits/pixel R-G-B-Alpha. Total frame buffer depended on the number of cards installed, around 32MBytes or maybe Mpixels in ours. Rendering a single image took a few minutes.

          And, yes, the granite colors and cube shape were cool compared to the beige plastic boxes.
      • Just so folks know- that isn't a NeXT cube. It's kind of the shape of one, and hell, maybe it even ran NeXTSTEP, but that's not a NeXT cube. Here is [sieler.com] a good photo of a NeXT cube and the 17" megapixel monitor (black white!).

    • Re:NeXT Cube Introduction? (Score:1, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward
      The intro was only shown on clips on the evening news as far as I know. There were even problems with the video afterwards at the press-table showing. I have (somewhere) a tape of all of the news broadcasts and the video that was shown of the assembly line during the intro. It was dubbed from a 3/4 inch broadcast master so it's not a bad VHS copy. I also have a couple of origonal VHS tapes from NeXT of the NeXTstation intro as well. I worked for a NeXT OEM/reseller as a marketing weasel and it was part of t
    • Not sure if you mean this one, but here is a long video of Stevie doing a demo of NeXTSTEP 3.0:

      http://www.openstep.se/jobs/ [openstep.se]

  • neat (Score:2, Interesting)

    by NMerriam ( 15122 )
    I've got to say, Slashdot and torrents go together like peas and carrots. By the time I finished clicking on the 4th torrent link and closed the window, I'd already finished downloading the first file.
    • TV + torrents are like bread to butter too =)

      Just got every Gundam Wing episode (half way through, awesome), Stargate Atlantis, Battlestar Galactica, The OC, Point Pleseant, and other assorted shows from it.

  • Again, torrent mirrors [geekissues.org]
  • Where are the videos of Michael Dell demonstrating the latest Dimension Desktop?

    Where are the videos of Carly Fiorina showing off the latest HP LaserJet?

    Better yet, where are the videos of Xerox demonstrating the $36,000 Alto?

    • Re:Why is this such a big deal? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by michaeldot ( 751590 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @05:39AM (#11616499)
      Hard to tell, but are you being ironic, or moronic?

      Dell Dimensions and HP LaserJets didn't put a dent in the universe.

      This product did.

      If nothing else, it started Microsoft scrambling to put something very similar on everyone's desktop... 1 billion computer users and growing.

      No Mac...?

      (A)bort (R)etry (F)ail
    • I guess they just are not as sexy

      Or something like that

      Yeah

    • Re:Why is this such a big deal? (Score:4, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @05:43AM (#11616514)
      > Where are the videos of Michael Dell demonstrating
      > the latest Dimension Desktop?

      > Where are the videos of Carly Fiorina showing off
      > the latest HP LaserJet?

      > Better yet, where are the videos of Xerox
      > demonstrating the $36,000 Alto?

      The difference is Apple actually makes some real innovations in their products and they take some pride in their product. Steve Jobs isn't just a guy in a suit reading off a list of PowerPoint bullet items.

      Did you know that when the Macintosh came out that the second generation Xerox Star still didn't support overlapping windows and still lacked any sort of uniform style. That machine cost something like 6x as much as a Macintosh and even without its external monitor its tower case was still twice as large as a Macintosh. If you read the folklore.org website it says the Macintosh had fewer chips on its motherboard than the IBM PC had on its black and white graphics card alone.
    • Thats like asking "where's the Olsen twins lesbian porno?"

      It's not going to happen, give up =)

    • Everyone uses a Mac today! (Score:1, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Haven't you noticed, we all use Macs today. Look at your Dell again, do you see those folder icons? Or how about the arrow cursor thats controlled by that mouse gizmo. The modern personal computer and its GUI was dreamed up at Stanford and MIT, prototyped at Xerox, refined and miniturized at Apple, and mass produced by Microsoft and Compaq and Dell.
    • As stupid as it sounds I think it's a big deal because it's a big deal. There are some events that, for what ever reason, have the ability to pick up some momentum. And from there people wonder what is this thing with all this momentum. To be honest I almost believe this is rational. The quality of generating a lot of interest is interesting. Not because I want to become part of the crowd but I want to see what could gather such a crowd. I feel there is a distinction between this and jumping on the ba

  • Not entirely lost.. (Score:4, Funny)

    by Large Green Mallard ( 31462 ) <lgm@theducks.org> on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @05:39AM (#11616501) Homepage
    I remember seeing this video during high school computing, probably in around 1994 or 1995. I had my powerbook (145!) with me that day, and recorded the bit of steve saying "IBM wants it all and it's aiming its guns at its last rival, Apple". I found the disks with it on a few days ago, but alas, I am still an Apple geek and now I don't have a floppy drive :)

  • 1984? 1684? (Score:1, Redundant)

    by jrobertray ( 86711 )
    From the 4th video, about 55 seconds in, Jobs says:

    "... of the 235 people in America, only a fraction know how to use a computer."

    • ...which still holds true to this day.
    • I know its a joke
      but....................

      In 1684 there were well over 235 people in America. Various accepted estimates of the pre-contact (15'th century and earlier) Native population of the continental U.S. and Canada range from 1.8 to over 12 million. Over the next four centuries, their numbers were reduced to about 237,000 as Natives were almost wiped out. In 1684, however, the natives were far from gone and there were already quite substantial european colonial settlements. People forget that europe

      • Re:1984? 1684? (Score:1, Offtopic)

        by will_die ( 586523 )
        In 1684 there were well over 235 people in America.
        And here I was thinking that the United States of America did not come into being until the 1700s.
        • Its pritty common to refer to the USA as America....but the term "Colonial America" is also popular, indicating that there was an America before the USA. The actual root of the word is probably cartographer Amerigo Vespucci.

          http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_021.html

          That dates "America" to the early 16'th century.
  • Didn't I warn you guys [slashdot.org] already?
  • Certificate for gift mac [folklore.org]

    anyone still have one of these? i'm sure *some* slashdot vet will have one stached away somewhere. I'm sure they'd be worth quite a bit to a collector.

  • More Apple Ads over the years (Score:4, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:11AM (#11616587)
    For fear of slashdotting someone's webpage (over 100MB of QuickTimes there,) and to curb some mindless clicking, I present the unlinked URL. www.uriah.com/apple-qt/index.html

    Someone, mirror it quick.

  • Mirrors ... (Score:3, Informative)

    by Ninja Programmer ( 145252 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:15AM (#11616596) Homepage
    ... This set again needs more mirrors (I still can't download the torrent files). ...
    What the hell are you talking about? How can people be so damn slow as to not realize how the Coral cache works?

    Just create a raw typical URL for the thing, then write some HTML with the suffix: ".nyud.net:8090" on the end, and like magic you get free, virtually unlimited, and extremely reliable of bandwidth.

    Read about the coral cache here [coralcdn.org].

    • Re:Mirrors ... (Score:3, Informative)

      by LiquidCoooled ( 634315 )
      If all slashdot links were coralised, then I might as well not come to slash.
      A firewall outside my control restricts access to basically everything bar port 80.
      If the cache system had been done on port 80, then I could view it, but as it is, its useless to me.

      I doubt I am the only one.
      Also, since I am not behind this firewall all the time, I have clicked other coral links, but tbh, only a very few have ever actually worked well, the rest just hang and lock and have the same errors as the original.
      The only
      • Okay, then just remove the extra cache stuff from the link. If they setup the cache BEFORE it gets slashdotted it should be fine, and since 95% of the people will go to the cache link, that leaves you to leave out the extra stuff from the URL and still be able to get the site.

      • Can't the slashcode hackers code a filter that adds a coralized URL with a nice red C icon right next to the original URL?

        Or the other way round, where the link is coralized and the original URL is preserved in a small o Icon link?

        -silence
        • I think the problem runs deeper, but I would like something similar available as a preference option (similar to adding domain names to links, offer a mirrored[?] link opener)

          The other main problem with coral is that it only archives the initial file linked, therefore you cannot browse an entire site using coral - any links within the cache are still linking to the original site.

          Coral could be immensely useful for different media types however, like the large movie files occasionally posted on the front p
    • Coralising after the fact isn't very helpful. If a site is already being slashdotted, the coral servers have the same problems accessing it as everyone else. Even worse are cases where the web server doesn't just slow down, but returns error pages: even if the proxy network once had the article, it's then duly replaced by the most recent version of the page, ie the one with the errors. Since the latter seems to be the rule rather than the exception, coral isn't as useful as it could be. Obviously, the solut
      • The Slashcode submission system should seed the Coral cache just before posting to the main page.

        I'm afraid the fellow who can't reach port 8090 needs to get off the Intarweb and onto the Internet. Running on port 80 needs dedicated machines.

  • Now *this* is a great story (Score:4, Funny)

    by bigirondawg ( 259176 ) <j_hortman AT yahoo DOT com> on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:16AM (#11616601) Homepage
    Let's see, according to the submitter of the story, the page is already suffering from heavy traffic usage... yeah, let's put that on the front page of slashdot! That'll help. :-)

  • Hottie (Score:2, Funny)

    by mikeb39 ( 670045 )
    Steve Jobs certainly had a flair for the dramatic. Bit of a cutie too. Is that bad?
  • Is there any way to download QuickTime WITHOUT installing iTunes?

  • Is there a bit torrent client that does not automatically start seeding once you have downloaded the file? (my bandwidth is capped.. )

  • Triumph of the Nerds (Score:2, Informative)

    by ubrayj02 ( 513476 )
    The coming out moment for the Macintosh can be seen in a really great documetary by Robert Cringley called "Triumph of the Nerds" (1995).

    I just Netflixed it, ten years after seeing it for the first time, and the movie has only gained in its relevance.

    In many ways Jobs' work with the Macintosh led to his being fired from Apple. This really was a landmark product, but it just wasn't priced well to compete with cheap IBM clones.

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