Round 2 of Apple's Lost '1984' Series 183
webertk421 writes "The second set of lost 1984 videos has been released. This set again needs more mirrors (I still can't download the torrent files). According to the descriptions, the clips include Steve Jobs reciting some Dylan, showing the well known 1984 commercial, and 'Manuals,' another commercial that almost aired instead."
Dylan (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Dylan (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Dylan (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Dylan (Score:2, Funny)
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snogwa togbram mibra brockno
Re:Dylan (Score:1)
Re:Dylan (Score:3, Interesting)
I wondered: Bob Dylan or Dylan Thomas? Do I need to get out more?
Re:Dylan (Score:3, Insightful)
Oh Paul Simon.. remember when you were cool? You know -- before you started letting Chevy Chase hang out in your music videos while you played a keytar?
Re:Dylan (Score:2)
Only if this [sourceforge.net] came to mind first.
It's Apple, but off by a decade.
Warning: (Score:1, Offtopic)
Torrent mirrors (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Torrent mirrors (Score:1, Informative)
http://eddie.ratm.net/slashdot/ [ratm.net]
For those who can't run bittorent from work
Re:Torrent mirrors (Score:2)
NeXT Cube Introduction? (Score:5, Interesting)
Another cool video would be the Pixar Imaging Computer, which, naturally, was also cube shaped!
PIXAR Imaging Computer (Score:5, Interesting)
http://www.3dnews.ru/documents/8124/pic-16.jpg [3dnews.ru]
And another photo with a Sun E450 and Sun SPARCstation 5 for reference:
http://www.nenv.k.u-tokyo.ac.jp/bis/kaoru/kizai01
Re:PIXAR Imaging Computer (Score:1)
Re:PIXAR Imaging Computer (Score:2)
And, yes, the granite colors and cube shape were cool compared to the beige plastic boxes.
Re:PIXAR Imaging Computer (Score:2)
Re:PIXAR Imaging Computer (Score:3, Informative)
Re:PIXAR Imaging Computer (Score:2)
Though trollers and counter trollers should also note that whilst the NeXT mouse had two buttons, they weren't used like they are on a PC or under Unix/X. By default, the right mouse button did the same thing as the left. Though, with a 3rd party app, you could use the right mouse button to bring up the app's menu, as well as a couple of other things (global menu). I think they included it mostly for compatibility with the X10 apps they f
WTF are you talking about?! (Score:2)
FWIG, the PIC ran NeWS, and I have no real understanding of how that worked.
On the NeXT, the entire purpose of the right mouse button was to provide the menus that normally would exist at the top of the screen on a Mac.
Menubar at the top of the screen all the time means you don't need to click a button on the mouse to get it to appear - either at the default top left corner of the screen, or you could drag the menu to any location on the screen (preferably gr
Re:PIXAR Imaging Computer (Score:2)
Re:NeXT Cube Introduction? (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:NeXT Cube Introduction? (Score:2, Interesting)
http://www.openstep.se/jobs/ [openstep.se]
neat (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:neat (Score:2)
Just got every Gundam Wing episode (half way through, awesome), Stargate Atlantis, Battlestar Galactica, The OC, Point Pleseant, and other assorted shows from it.
Torrent mirrors (forgot to login) (Score:2, Informative)
Works for me (Score:1)
Re:Works for me (Score:3)
LALALALALAA I hate slashdot's post delay timer dealies.... It's a fucking 404 ok? Do you want me to write an essay about it or what?
Why is this such a big deal? (Score:1, Insightful)
Where are the videos of Carly Fiorina showing off the latest HP LaserJet?
Better yet, where are the videos of Xerox demonstrating the $36,000 Alto?
Re:Why is this such a big deal? (Score:5, Insightful)
Dell Dimensions and HP LaserJets didn't put a dent in the universe.
This product did.
If nothing else, it started Microsoft scrambling to put something very similar on everyone's desktop... 1 billion computer users and growing.
No Mac...?
(A)bort (R)etry (F)ail
Re:Why is this such a big deal? (Score:5, Funny)
Good point! We should all sell our BMWs and buy used Kias. Then we should sell our PowerBooks and ThinkPads and buy used Avertecs.
Oh, but wait, Kia and Avertec are in business to make money too! Ack!
Quick, who has the detailed instructions for building an EasyBake Chip Fab??
Re:Why is this such a big deal? (Score:2, Flamebait)
Oh, but wait, Kia and Avertec are in business to make money too! Ack!
Brilliantly done, in your blind knock kneed rush to defend Apple, you missed the point entirely. You don't save and record ADVERTS for BMWs do you? Create torrents and share them around? Hello?
Re:Why is this such a big deal? (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Why is this such a big deal? (Score:1)
Hmm last time I visit a car enthousiast forum it was exactly what there are doing there.
So unless this isn't a site for geeks, nerds and the stuff alike, this is PRECISE the things I would EXPECT.
If there would be a detailed presentation of the Earth simulator or the new IBM cluster, it would be shared just the sam
Re:Why is this such a big deal? (Score:1)
You don't save and record ADVERTS for BMWs do you?
I have Honda's famous advert, called 'Cog', where they have all the different parts of the car being used in a big, long, Mouse Trap-style chain reaction, with the ultimate goal being the car itself being rolled off a ramp at the end. The music in it was Rappers' Delight by the Sugar Hill Gang. The tagline of the ad was ''Isn't it nice when things just work?''
I believe it wasn't shown in full in America as the whole thing lasted for about 2 minutes, m
Re:Why is this such a big deal? (Score:2, Funny)
Yes, and there are two kinds of companies... (Score:3)
1. Those that try to mislead, scam, force and lock you in to their product so you have no choice but to give them your money, or you'll regret that you did.
2. Those that try to provide high-quality, powerful and flexible products at reasonable prices so that people come back for resale after resale.
Of course, the cynical claim that #1 are the monopolies and #2 are those that aspire to be mon
Re:Why is this such a big deal? (Score:5, Insightful)
In a gun community, ads for the Winchester repeating rifle would garner similar interest (as it was a milestone product), or the first ads for the Model T in a car community.
Ford, Winchester and Apple are all for-profit companies, but they advanced the art of their fields greatly in a single leap by releasing products that redefined their industries. Of course it's interesting.
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Evan
Re:Why is this such a big deal? (Score:2)
Or something like that
Yeah
Re:Why is this such a big deal? (Score:4, Informative)
> the latest Dimension Desktop?
> Where are the videos of Carly Fiorina showing off
> the latest HP LaserJet?
> Better yet, where are the videos of Xerox
> demonstrating the $36,000 Alto?
The difference is Apple actually makes some real innovations in their products and they take some pride in their product. Steve Jobs isn't just a guy in a suit reading off a list of PowerPoint bullet items.
Did you know that when the Macintosh came out that the second generation Xerox Star still didn't support overlapping windows and still lacked any sort of uniform style. That machine cost something like 6x as much as a Macintosh and even without its external monitor its tower case was still twice as large as a Macintosh. If you read the folklore.org website it says the Macintosh had fewer chips on its motherboard than the IBM PC had on its black and white graphics card alone.
Re:Why is this such a big deal? (Score:2)
It's not going to happen, give up =)
Re:Why is this such a big deal? (Score:2)
Everyone uses a Mac today! (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Why is this such a big deal? (Score:2)
Not entirely lost.. (Score:4, Funny)
1984? 1684? (Score:1, Redundant)
"... of the 235 people in America, only a fraction know how to use a computer."
Re:1984? 1684? (Score:2)
Re:1984? 1684? (Score:2, Informative)
but....................
In 1684 there were well over 235 people in America. Various accepted estimates of the pre-contact (15'th century and earlier) Native population of the continental U.S. and Canada range from 1.8 to over 12 million. Over the next four centuries, their numbers were reduced to about 237,000 as Natives were almost wiped out. In 1684, however, the natives were far from gone and there were already quite substantial european colonial settlements. People forget that europe
Re:1984? 1684? (Score:1, Offtopic)
And here I was thinking that the United States of America did not come into being until the 1700s.
Re:1984? 1684? (Score:1)
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_021.htm
That dates "America" to the early 16'th century.
Director's Cut (Score:1)
Piece of memorabilia (Score:2, Interesting)
anyone still have one of these? i'm sure *some* slashdot vet will have one stached away somewhere. I'm sure they'd be worth quite a bit to a collector.
More Apple Ads over the years (Score:4, Informative)
Someone, mirror it quick.
Mirrors ... (Score:3, Informative)
Just create a raw typical URL for the thing, then write some HTML with the suffix: ".nyud.net:8090" on the end, and like magic you get free, virtually unlimited, and extremely reliable of bandwidth.
Read about the coral cache here [coralcdn.org].
Re:Mirrors ... (Score:3, Informative)
A firewall outside my control restricts access to basically everything bar port 80.
If the cache system had been done on port 80, then I could view it, but as it is, its useless to me.
I doubt I am the only one.
Also, since I am not behind this firewall all the time, I have clicked other coral links, but tbh, only a very few have ever actually worked well, the rest just hang and lock and have the same errors as the original.
The only
Re:Mirrors ... (Score:2)
Slashcode URL filter? (Score:1)
Or the other way round, where the link is coralized and the original URL is preserved in a small o Icon link?
-silence
Re:Slashcode URL filter? (Score:1)
The other main problem with coral is that it only archives the initial file linked, therefore you cannot browse an entire site using coral - any links within the cache are still linking to the original site.
Coral could be immensely useful for different media types however, like the large movie files occasionally posted on the front p
Re:Mirrors ... (Score:2)
Automate it (Score:2)
I'm afraid the fellow who can't reach port 8090 needs to get off the Intarweb and onto the Internet. Running on port 80 needs dedicated machines.
Re:Automate it (Score:2)
So any appropriate solution would parse the initial link and seed the Coral Cache with the links contained in that page.
Now *this* is a great story (Score:4, Funny)
Hottie (Score:2, Funny)
These require QuickTime right? (Score:2)
Re:These require QuickTime right? (Score:2)
Re:These require QuickTime right? (Score:3, Informative)
You've never been forced to download iTunes to get QuickTime...
Re:These require QuickTime right? (Score:1)
Re:These require QuickTime right? (Score:2)
Re:These require QuickTime right? (Score:2)
Offtopic, but I was wondering.. (Score:2)
Re:Offtopic, but I was wondering.. (Score:2)
a) It's annoying
b) I'm not always at home once the download completes.
Re:Offtopic, but I was wondering.. (Score:2)
Hmm.. maybe I should grab the Azureus source code and modify it to suit my needs..
Triumph of the Nerds (Score:2, Informative)
I just Netflixed it, ten years after seeing it for the first time, and the movie has only gained in its relevance.
In many ways Jobs' work with the Macintosh led to his being fired from Apple. This really was a landmark product, but it just wasn't priced well to compete with cheap IBM clones.
Re:Somewhat OT (Score:1, Offtopic)
Re:Somewhat OT (Score:1, Informative)
Apple only offers up to 7.5.3 for free (though there is a 7.5.5 updater available too.) Above that, only updaters are available.
6.0.8 is highly reccomended for your the SE, compact, rock solid and hyper fast. Head over to System 6 Heaven [euronet.nl] for your System 6 needs. Available in over two dozen languages!
Re:Somewhat OT (Score:3, Informative)
http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support
System 7.5.3:
http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Supp
Re:Somewhat OT (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Somewhat OT (Score:2)
Re:Somewhat OT (Score:1)
Close.. (Score:2)
You should be able to dd 'em though.
Re:Somewhat OT (Score:3, Informative)
The Mac 512Ke, Mac Plus, Mac SE, and Mac II originally shipped with 800 KB 3.5" floppy drives. These are similar to 720 KB 3.5" drives, but used an 800 KB format.
There was a later version of the Mac SE that did ship out of the factory with a 1.44 MB floppy drive.
Re:Somewhat OT (Score:2)
Mac 128K, 512K = 400K 3.5" drive
Mac Plus, SE = 800K 3.5" drive
Mac SE/30, II, etc = 1.4MB 3.5 drive
HFS too, so get you FAT ass back in the kitchen and make me some pie. (Apologies to Cartman)
Re:Somewhat OT (Score:2)
Re:Somewhat OT (Score:2)
A problem I have with the SE series (Score:2)
I put a 1.44M floppy into the SE, but it only sees it as an 800K floppy. There is System 6 installed, but the bare minimum on the hard drive. No MS-DOS floppy translator/reader, no Stuffit, etc.
I have a SE/30 with the 1.44M floppy, but same situation, bare minimum Mac System 6.
I downloaded the System 7 disk images, but I have no way to create them from an XP Pro PC. Also I did find a Mac formatter, so it made Mac Formatted disks. When I downloaded Stuffit for MacOS, and copie
Re:A problem I have with the SE series (Score:1)
Re:A problem I have with the SE series (Score:2)
I remember doing this very thing from two Macs, one an older SE and the other a newer (at the time) PowerPC.
It'll be slow, but who cares, it will work.
resuscitate your SE (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Somewhat OT (Score:1)
(And why is it all the potty mouths just happen to be Windows users? Is there something about that OS which encourages profanity?)
Good luck getting the Mac SE going, and if not, a fishtank mod awaits!
I am not sure what site YOU have been reading but the "bah what are you thinking? use another OS!" lines here generally point to OSX or Linux. And they usually come from over zealo
Re:Somewhat OT (Score:2)
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Gay Mac Users? (Score:2)
Re:Somewhat OT (Score:1, Funny)
I didn't realize it... dang man, this is gonna be a hard coming out of the closet.. How am I gonna break this to my girfriend.. "sorry honey but some windows wankers says I'm gay, and I'm taking the Mac with me
read this pork-for-brains:
if mac user's are all homosexuals then how come we breed like rabbits?
Re:1984? (Score:2)
Interesting now that the PC clone world is filled with all manner of diversity and the Mac is only offered in very particular market driven configurations (i.e. lowest end mini, mid range all in one and high end tower).
Re:1984? (Score:3, Insightful)
The "diversity" in the PC clone world is skin deep, if even that. Let's look at the "diversity". OK, you do have two different companies making processors, AMD and Intel and they may now have compatible 64 bit architectures. You basically have two companies that make graphics chipsets, ATI
Re:1984? (Score:2)
So competition such as AMD vs Intel doesn't matter? It isn't a good thing? Diversity of hardware and diversity of software you can run on it is bad?
Also do you realize how the Macin
Re:1984? (Score:2)
I do, and fondly. Let's look at the list you posted.
NuBus
NuBus was technically superior to any PC bus, including MCA. NuBus was true plug and play, put a card in, reboot your system and install driver software, no bullshit, no fucking around. NuBus was a 32 bit bus and you could have up to 16 cards on the bus, much better than ISA or current PCI implementations without various bridging schemes. MCA had similar specs to NuBus but the stupid configuatio
Re:1984? (Score:2)
Re:1984? (Score:2)
Dude, you're posting from the clue free zone. Apple used superior technology in the late 1980s, but outside of ADB very little of it was proprietary. SCSI? Apple didn't own that. NuBus? TI would have happily sold you NuBus chipsets. This technology wasn't widely used, and
Well I tried! (Score:2)
Somebody dropped the ball on the torrent links for sure. No seed. FWIW the full download links on the right side of the page seem to work.