Apple Offers Mac OS X 10.3.7 Update 457
An anonymous reader writes "MacNN reports: 'Apple has released Mac OS X 10.3.7 via the Software Update utility. Key enhancements include improved AFP support for saving documents with long file names, improved OpenGL technology and updated ATI and NVIDIA graphics drivers, improved FireWire device compatibility, updated Preview application, and improved compatibility for third party applications. The 10.3.7 update is recommended for all users of Mac OS X 10.3 'Panther.' It also includes all previous standalone security updates.'"
Dear 10.3.7 (Score:5, Interesting)
Holy sh..
I just upgraded and I got a 2.2 times OpenGL speedup.
Wow, Letter
Re:Dear 10.3.7 (Score:5, Funny)
We, the Illegal Pirates of the Internet Who Must Steal Everything No Matter What, already have a cabal of Freedom Hating Illegal Filetraders feverishly working on a cracked version of 10.3.7 which we will release publically for free. Apple's lack of copy protection and free distribution via Software Update has seriously impeded our efforts to violate the DMCA and cost people money, but even these extreme measures will prove insufficient to stem internet piracy of copyrighted software.
Signed,
The Illegal Pirates of the Internet Who Must Steal Everything No Matter What
PearPC (Score:5, Funny)
Re:PearPC (Score:5, Funny)
Oh wait, that was a dream, never mind.
Re:PearPC (Score:2, Funny)
But it does because you do it the wrong way. You can start PearPC on a Win2k VMware virtual machine, so you can pause the execution at any time...
Re:PearPC (Score:2)
I just run ppc from a terminal, and hit Ctrl-Z to pause the execution at any time.
Re:PearPC (Score:3, Informative)
You'll get decent performance for not much money.
All the right fixes? (Score:5, Interesting)
Any word on if Safari has been updated to support type-ahead-find yet? I won't be updating until I hear some Reason users speak up, and this is a sweet feature that should be in Safari by now.
Re:All the right fixes? (Score:3, Informative)
And, oh yeah, don't forget... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:And, oh yeah, don't forget... (Score:2)
My PC with ATI 9700 runs 50FPS with everything maxed and anti-aliasing on full.
In fact, the driver updates mention WoW.
Re:And, oh yeah, don't forget... (Score:2)
Re:And, oh yeah, don't forget... (Score:2)
Does it matter? Faster drawing to the screen on this 12" powerbook, that I doubt could ever play WoW, is only a good thing. YAY.
All I want is civ4 and simcity4 (and maybe something like moo3) to run well on this machine... And it just barely doesnt make it... My fault, I got antsy and couldn't wait for the revision of the 12" pbooks to happen... A better video card would have made a WORLD of difference...
PS: When will apple up
Still need the Blizzard WoW update (Score:3, Informative)
Good news for iBook, Powerbook owners (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Good news for iBook, Powerbook owners (Score:2)
Yeah, but does it fix the problem with system panics when resuming from Sleep mode? I understand that it's an ATI driver issue.
Re:Good news for iBook, Powerbook owners (Score:5, Interesting)
Apple discovers new source of energy? (Score:5, Funny)
Can Microsoft match that?
Better not install it yet (Score:5, Funny)
Surely apple will be similar?
Re:Better not install it yet (Score:2)
Re:Better not install it yet (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Better not install it yet (Score:5, Interesting)
Now, as the shit had hit the fan, I was without computer as I oly have the Apple Powerbook. I tried everything I knew, but to no avail. If I had access to another computer, I'd known that the file was overwritten by mistake and restorable from the ttys.applesaved file. Also, the system would start up in single user mode to correct this problem. But I didn't know.
Anyhoo, I decided to do a Archive and Install type from the 10.3 DVD that was included with the PB. I was prepared to spend the rest of the evening restoring settings and loading programs, but, I was stumped after the install. Everything was at its right place, spare for the wallpaper. Even the document I saved just before rebooting was on the desktop. Every setting, everything was as I remembered it, but the whole system was brand new 10.3 from 10.3.6. Incredible, but a part of the *nix goodness of keeping settings apart from the system on a user base.
There were two minor SNAFUs with the rollback, I could not start System Preferences from the Apple menu and I had to reinstall Salling Clicker (But it even understood that I had bought and registered the program after install). A quick lookup in the Apple Discussion boards adviced me to chick the old saved system in the thrash and empty it, I did and the System Prefrences menu worked.
This was something quite different from the time when I had to reinstall Windows 2k to restore the system from some b0rkness...
MacOS amazes me, but not as much as peoples resistance to it amazes me.
Re:Better not install it yet (Score:5, Insightful)
Choosing not to use a type of computer because you don't like the attitude of some of its users is pretty stupid.
Re:Better not install it yet (Score:5, Insightful)
For the record, here's what I believe about Apple: they are a corporation. They have shareholders and need to cater to their shareholders like every other share-based company. However, they seem to put more work into their product than similar companies. Their computers look nice. Their computers are sturdy. Their OS is nice to use. They contribute to the Open Source community. And most important; currently they are an underdog that has to fight to convince people about their products. This makes for better products.
I hated Macs in the mid 90ies. I thought that they were buggy, childish and a pain to use. Then Jobs came along and introduced the iMac. I liked the ideas about all-USB and no disk drive, thinking "it's about time". But the OS still sucked. Big time. Then came OS X, especially in its second incarnation. Holy hell. The power of *nix AND a desktop you can look at without thinking "Relax" by Frankie Goes to Hollywood is the current #1 hit? And it plays better with Windows computers than they play among themselves?
I was convinced and dropped Linux for Mac. I am now a Mac fan, since I have so many good experiences with the Mac, Mac OS and Apple. They are very professional and that is a big issue with me. I hate having to call Dell three or four times to solve an issue that is clearly under warranty. I hate it when a computer is not ready to be used by me, its owner at any time. I hate downtime and issues. With Apple, I have had excellent customer experience, it is a robust system that has proven a catastrophic failure is easy to recover from. So easy in fact that it required three user actions (Insert disc, press command - C during start up, choose 'Archive and install') to recover and have the user settings intact, the computer settings intact, the registration on bought programs intact, everything as it should be. I did computer support for Windows around 2001, and I felt it was something wrong with the system when the callers had to wipe their harddrives to reinstall from OEM discs. This was not the way a computer should work. With the Mac I feel that it is a tool for me to use, like a hammer. Not a veteran car that needs constant attention and tuning just to fulfill its primary obejctive.
But, above all, I do not believe that Apple is perfect in any way. They ar just currently the best alternative by far.
Re:Better not install it yet (Score:2)
Re:Better not install it yet (Score:2)
The release notes form Apple say to disconnect firewire drives before installing this update.
Release notes here. [apple.com]
SteveM
Re:Better not install it yet (Score:2)
However, there's more to it than that for this release. If you have a drive that doesn't show up in 10.3.6, it will be in a wedged state (bridge chip's microcontroller is hung) until you power cycle it. (I recall hearing tales of folks who tried connecting the wedged drives to other machines and were in a state of panic before they figured this one out....)
Thus, that recommendation al
Re:Better not install it yet (Score:2)
Re:Better not install it yet (Score:3, Insightful)
As for 10.3, see what I said to another poster in the thread.
I'm sure I'll get modded down for this
I've always believed that anyone who qualifies their statements with that line deserves to be modded into oblivion, just on principle. If you've got something to say that
Re:Better not install it yet (Score:5, Informative)
Of course, it could be worse. I love SP2 for the fact that as soon as somebody installs it I can immediately shut off Norton "Internet Security" also known as Norton never works right, Norton constantly breaks itself on updates, Norton randomly decides to block port 80 and 25, and - oh by the way - Norton doesn't offer tech support so have fun supporting our product ISPs!
Not that I hate Norton or anything
Re:Better not install it yet (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Better not install it yet (Score:3, Insightful)
AMEN! I can't stand that kind of preemptive whining. It's obnoxious. Only in extremely rare and egregious cases is complaining about being modded a reasonable thing to do.
Re:Better not install it yet (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Better not install it yet (Score:2)
On a fully legitimate system, the first time I installed SP2, Explorer crashed when I tried to set the firewall options.
Subsequent installs of SP2, now, Explorer.exe will not start. Ever. Task Mrg>New Task>Explorer.exe doesn't even start the app, my guess is it segfaults right away. So I'm on SP1a.
piece of shit if you ask me, I *want* to use it, and I don't have the time to reformat and reinstall the applications I have.
Re:Better not install it yet (Score:3, Insightful)
Go back under your rock.
I guess you've never seen a Sun BADPATCH.
Or a withdrawn patch under HP-UX.
Or even a bad patch with OpenVMS.
Grow up. Get a clue. Bugs happen. The magic is in what the vendors *do* about it.
Software update via shell (Score:5, Informative)
You *still* can't update a system via ssh.
What are you talking about? That's been around since at least 2002. man softwareupdate and read up on it.
Re:Better not install it yet (Score:2)
so be careful. i have not personally installed it yet.
so far so good... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:so far so good... (Score:4, Funny)
so far, I'm just going to test the finder."
For some reason he was cut off whilst sending it, and can't get back onto his desktop.
If anyone could get an engineer sent to his house he would greatly appreciate it.
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You found me out! (Score:2)
Few things I'm wondering about... (Score:4, Interesting)
Calculator (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Calculator (Score:2)
Re:Calculator (Score:2)
Re:Calculator (Score:2)
Re:Calculator (Score:2)
Re:Calculator (Score:2)
Re:Calculator (Score:2)
Anyone have any ideas?
Not to insult the hordes of Mac users.... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Not to insult the hordes of Mac users.... (Score:2)
Also a patch for server (Score:4, Informative)
And I must say, it was painful beta on this one
Installed... (Score:5, Informative)
No such thing this time, and I think. I feel. I believe that the system is a bit, just a tiny bit snappier in writing to the screen. I'm on a newish Powerbook.
Me too. Bitchin thing was I had to reinstall. (Score:2)
I lost alot of my data when it wiped out the user area. (It wouldn't re-install properly.
I'm glad they got over that...
update "magic" (Score:3, Insightful)
I love it when people are surprised when an update works.
The whole system "got b0rked" probably because you a)didn't check the disk b)had disk errors c)didn't have journaling turned on.
I support 100+ macintoshes, and when I check the system disk first (using Diskwarrior off an external drive) and repair
woohoo (Score:4, Funny)
I use Panther and... (Score:5, Interesting)
With performance increases like this, OSX seems to just be getting better - good work Apple.
Re:I use Panther and... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:I use Panther and... (Score:5, Funny)
Disconnet Firewire Harddrives (Score:5, Informative)
Apple's release notes [apple.com] say to disconnect firewire drives prior to installing.
From the notes:
If you have a third-party FireWire hard drive connected, turn it off and disconnect it before installing this update. Reconnect it and turn it back on after installation is complete and you've restarted.
SteveM
Re:Disconnet Firewire Harddrives (Score:4, Funny)
You should see what the release notes *used* to say:
"If you have a third-party FireWire hard drive connected, turn it off and disconnect it before installing this update. In fact, put it in a seperate, EM shielded room. Actually, now that we think of it, please also back it up. Twice."
DP 2.5 G5 6800 Nvidia and UT 2004 (Score:4, Informative)
I ran UT 2004 on my DP 2.5 G5 w/ 6800 Nvidia. WOW. Its like playing on "slomo 2" without using the cheat. Much faster. FPS averaging around 110 with everthing turned on to max.
Network Browsing (Score:4, Insightful)
Then they go and for some reason disable that (it was the number 1 most useful 'upgrade' in Panther), to what was there before: you'd see the computer on the network, and you'd have to mount any folder you want to access...it's really annoying. They have that in the Tiger beta...hope they keep it.
Hopefully they fixed the pdf support in Preview (Score:2)
Install script is still stupidly written (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Install script is still stupidly written (Score:2, Interesting)
It's actually a good idea. (Score:2)
Re:Install script is still stupidly written (Score:2, Informative)
$ export COMMAND_LINE_INSTALL=1
The Quicktime dialogue box will be blocked.
Fixes the annoying DNS timeout problem (Score:2)
So far, it's a great update!
Re:Fixes the annoying DNS timeout problem (Score:2)
That's the thing that jumped out at me while reading the readme:
I'm still downloading, but I can't wait to surf the web without annoying computer-side pauses. Yup, back to "pure" terrible DSL for me...
No java 1.5 (Score:2)
Its been out like 3 months on the PC side...
Sigh...
Quicker (Score:4, Insightful)
I can't quite put my finger on it, but I'm pretty sure I can detect a speed increase, definitely for UI responsiveness - I've got an 800 MHz iBook G3 and a 400 Mhz iMac G3 here, and both seem to have gained a certain je ne sais quoi from the update, the iMac especially.
Thank you once again, Apple, for a free speedup to my ageing iMac. It is much appreciated!
iqu
(Seriously, it is commendable, the work that seems to go into these releases. Each point release is bringing genuine improvements, such that it is quite a shock to go back to a mint 10.3 install or suchlike. This is an area where Apple really excels - making even relative relics like my iMac more usable with every new update.)
That's great, but... (Score:2)
And, yay. World of Warcraft!
Re:That's great, but... (Score:2)
How good is OS X, really? (Score:4, Interesting)
I'm thinking of buying an 12" iBook or PowerBook to replace my old computer. Now, there are a few things that bother me physically about them (they're big and heavy (twice as much as my Lifebook P2040), the battery life isn't really good and there's a blasted trackpad instead of a trackpoint)...
BUT! I could overlook all that, because I'd really like a computer that Just Works(TM). I love tweaking things in Linux (I run gentoo to give you an idea), but my life is catching up to me now and I find I don't have the time I used to to play with my computer (without doing anything "productive" done).
Now, I'm asking Apple fans (and detractors too) here: is OS X really *that* great, as I heard? Does it really Just Works(TM)? I'm asking because I've nearly went and bought my new Apple laptop, but then discovered that iTunes doesn't play
Right, wrong? I'd really appreciate your thoughts on this one...
Re:How good is OS X, really? (Score:5, Informative)
OS X just works. (Almost - I've seen occasional issues with the CUPS subsystem in older releases that needed either a reboot or a manual daemon restart to fix. But almost.)
Ease of connecting wifi is one example. To get this powerbook to connect to a netgear AP with WPA was trivial. It just worked. Trying the same connection from an XP laptop was a nightmare of driver upgrades and obscure hex strings.
The GUI isn't perfect, but it's better than Windows, KDE or Gnome, IMO. (Even if you prefer KDE or Gnome you'll probably still consider the GUI quite workable).
And it's a BSD box under the covers, with a decent X server, and lots of (good) development software bundled with the system.
The downside is that while the software that's available tends to be really good there isn't quite the vast range of software you'll see under windows (particularly games).
I've had two major hardware failures on my powerbook (both fairly normal laptoppy failures - HD started getting flaky and the smart charge circuit in the battery went bad). My laptop gets around 12x7 usage, so no big surprise. Under the AppleCare contract, though, they fixed 'em both (HD was out to be repaired for 4 or 5 days, battery was a no questions swap in the store). That's about the same failure rate I've seen with Dell and Sony laptops - but trying to get Dell or Sony to support them (or even sell spare parts) was an exercise in futility.
So, while it's not as Truly Perfect as the Apple True Believers will try and tell you, it is a damn fine system. I have a range of systems that I use (Windows, Linux, BSD, Solaris, Mac) but both the laptop and my main desktop are Macs by choice.
Re:How good is OS X, really? (Score:5, Insightful)
Think of everything you like about Linux.
OK, now imagine an OS with all of that plus a good desktop.
It'a as easy as that. When you get it you'll start using it, doing the things you normally do with a computer. It'll be pretty, it'll be nice. Then you'll get one of those 'itches.' Can't I write shell script to do this more efficiently? I wonder what running a Tomcat server is like? I don't want to switch out of Terminal to control iTunes...
It really is the best of both worlds.
Re:How good is OS X, really? (Score:4, Interesting)
Ultimately, the problem is that while a lot of Apple's apps are nice, there are nicer solutions out there. I used Safari for awhile, but gave in to Firefox because, if it doesn't work better, it's at least got a feel that I like more. iTunes takes a long time to get used to, and I started longing for my XMMS (even after adding in
Put simply, I was installing tons of 3rd party software, which is something I could have done with any PC I'd bought.
I also noticed significant screen lag, which perhaps would have been addressed in 10.3.7, who knows. To illustrate the point, however, get on a Linux box and the iBook, ssh to a server somewhere, start a screen session, and start cat'ting logfiles. The Linux display will finish noticeably faster every time (in fact, this was the annoyance that got to me most).
The Aqua gui is nice, but it's not something you spend $1200 on, and on top of all of this, buying an Apple means you lose a significant portion of software you could be running if you'd bought a PC. Overall, it's nice, and if your needs aren't high, then it definitely Just Works. But When it came right down to it, all the drawbacks did not outweigh the positives for me.
I love the way everything feels on an iBook, but it just doesn't do what I want.
Re:How good is OS X, really? (Score:4, Insightful)
But I really believe it is a next-generation UI, and is slow just like the classic Mac UI was never really snappy until the 68040 machines came out. (I'm not counting pre-System 7, because it didn't multitask).
Despite Aqua's shortcomings, it really doesn't seem to bog down the machine when it comes to raw processing. Instead, when the processor gets busy, everything still hums along at full tilt, but Aqua gets choppy.
In the meantime I still am really liking the direction that Apple is forging with OS X and the consistency of its UI across apps. Despite its sluggishness it continues to get faster with these incremental updates, and in a few years when a base system is a 3 GHz G5 with video on par with a GF6800, we'll forget about its little annoyances, just like nowadays we forget about trying to run System 7.1 on a Mac LC. Then the fruits of Apple's labour will really pay off, while we enjoy our little search boxes, cool zooming effects and drop shadows. Mac OS X will make Longhorn look clumsy, much the same way System 7's UI wiped the floor with WFW 3.11, and using OS 8 made Win 95/98 feel like a toy.
In my opinion, right now XP and Linux interfaces are nice and quick, but once I now that I've been using OS X for a few years I find other interfaces primitive, despite Aqua's sluggishness.
I know I'm rambling, but hey - since we're sharing, do you want to know what annoys the hell out of me with Windows these days? The taskbar. If you have an Office app open with multiple documents, each document gets a tile in the taskbar - even though the documents are in daughter windows (don't even get me started on that). You only need to have about 6 open windows on your screen before the taskbar becomes useless. The System Tray is never big enough to show you everything it contains (oh if only things just shrunk to fit their available space like OS X), and the Start menu which causes you to do mouse gymnastics through what is usually 3 hierarchal menus just to launch any app. (click Start, move up and to the right for "all programs", hover there for a moment, move into the list that appears on the right - but not too far or the whole thing will disappear on you, then move up or down to your app's folder, then move down past uninstall, help, readme, and click on the app! now what was i going to do with it again?) Oh, and it's also really cool when it starts hiding items from you when you haevn't used them for a little while.
Anyway -- happy computing, regardless of which platform's fruits you choose to pick.
Re:How good is OS X, really? (Score:5, Insightful)
--You immediately jettison your obsession with malware/spyware/worms, etc. If you aren't obsessed with them on a PC, you're cruisin' for a bruisin'. And that's worth something right there.
--I don't use AppleWorks unless it's necessary. But there's a myriad of software--free, shareware and commercial--that fits the bill. BBEdit, Nisus Writer, TextEdit--it's MUCH easier to find all kinds of good quality, low-cost software for Macintosh than it is for Windows. There's a much lower ratio of trash-to-treasure on Macintosh because crap just doesn't survive very long. A trip to the Mac OS X side of Versiontracker will bear me out.
--Wireless networking is mature in Mac OS X. Acquisition of networks is easier. Configuration is easier. The antennas built into the machines get better reception than Windows machines do--and that's laptop AND desktop.
--Apple hardware purchases hold their value. This [lowendmac.com] machine is four years old. It can be had for about $800. I'd take one in a minute for running Mac OS X. But a new iBook G4 is $100 more. The used Mac market is crazy because the machines are so useful.
It's not all sunshine and roses by any stretch of the imagination. Panther Release 10.3.6 was a disaster, from what I hear. Busts FireWire. Windows-Mac networking interoperability suffers. There are the shortcomings you mentioned in your own situation. It's a balance. Since you're a knowledgeable user, you can make a more informed decision than most people. Macintosh does have its shortcomings, but everything about it is geared toward one thing: Helping you get your work done.
Good luck. Hope this helps.
Re:How good is OS X, really? (Score:5, Interesting)
Does it really Just Works(TM)?
Usually, yes. I have yet to install a driver on my PowerBook. Every printer I have dried to connect to has been automatically found on the network and installed, every weird-ass camera connected has just showed up in iPhoto to import the images. The bluetooth mouse worked on the first try. The Microsoft Bluetooth adapter that refused to work on Norwegian XP SP1 (Since the drivers wouldn't load on the Norwegian edition) worked out of the box on an iBook.
I have had two instances where it didn't just work. One was a weird-ass printer in my girlfriend's flat, it required a download of some open source drivers. The other is that there is no support for the Microsoft fingerprint scanner that I got to test from Microsoft.
iTunes doesn't play
Itunes does play ogg. It even has a file icon for ogg, and many rumor mongers among the Apple fan base suspect that ogg support will be native in iTunes soon. Not on the iPod, but that's another issue. The ogg support is done via plugin, but if you want, there's a really kick-ass application called Audion that does a lot more than iTunes. One of the best music players, regardless of platform.
Appleworks doesn't cut it for me
Me neither.
I'm not about to pay a kazillion $ to MS to use Office, I'll have to install OpenOffice
I have to say, MS Office for Mac is really slick. Using Office 2000 on Windows when I'm at work now feels like I'm writing on cave walls with deer-blood as paint. Lots of nifty and well though through features that actually are useful. Like a toolbox that fades away so you see only the actual paper you are writing until you need the toolbox, then it fades in. Very non-clutter like.
As for OpenOffice, I used it on Linux before I switched to Mac. I liked it, but it really feels old compared to Office on Mac. Very, very, very old. The experience I had with it on Linux was that it was extremely slow. I think this has been fixed, and there is an very active effort to get the Mac version native. It now runs under the X11 subsystem (Another cool thing with the MacOS X).
I can tell you how I got into Macs. My mother got a budget for buying a new computer, printer and accessories to use when she edited an online magazine. She had a horrible AST Windows 98 computer that constantly locked up (And it costed me a term paper when it was W95 when i accidentally hit the 'sleep' button on the keyboard that actually crashes W95). Having long since moved out, I was looking for something that needed little attention from my side, and I advised her to by an iBook, after strong recommendation from a photographer friend.
The ibook was ordered and set up. Everything worked, right out of the box. There was a program for the Agfa Snapscan I donated and the Logitech wireless two-button mouse worked without any thing other than plugging it in (and syncing it with the base). The number of family support-calls went down from four-five a week to every other week. Now, this is remarkable. The Mac had so few issues, that I just needed to have a look at it every six months doing routine maintenance like repairing permissions, checking that everything works as planned. Updates go ahead automatically every week. I have had one problem with the updates, but that's it.
Then my GF was out to buy a new laptop. I told her that if she got a Windows computer, I would not help her when something went wrong. I'm tired of being the person everyone calls at 22:00 because the term paper went away or the internet connection is down. She got an iBook, and loves it dearly. It seems that persons not familiar with computers see the Mac hardware as a companion, a work mate more than a cold tool that you sometimes have to fight with.
Some friends that run a company said they would take my advice and buy Macs next time they were going to upgrade. Macs pl
OS X.II.VII (Score:2, Insightful)
snappy systems (Score:4, Informative)
;-)
Re:Microsoft Updates Windows XP (Score:2)
Slow news day, I guess...
Re:Microsoft Updates Windows XP (Score:2)
Re:Wonder if this'll help World of Warcraft (Score:5, Informative)
Re:hypehypehype (Score:3, Insightful)
The ones from MS tend to be way overdue security fixes that arrive late, are quite monolithic, break shit and generally a hassle to clean up after. Hmmm, sounds like "Steve Ballmer, party guest from hell".
Halleluiah.
Re:Graphic drivers? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Graphic drivers? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Graphic drivers? (Score:2)
Re:Graphic drivers? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Extra extra(?) (Score:4, Interesting)
Slashdot is such a damn immense community that it has to appeal to everyone. As a Mac owner, this ia big news to me and the comments are helpful. However, I really couldn't give less of a crap about a new kernel update, FreeBSD, a crappy MMPORG release, RMS bitching about something, or a new rc for slack or moz. Yes I use firefox and am a religious debian user, but I really don't care. So you know what I do? I scroll down, I don't go into the thread and post a 'wtf' type comment.
Its been a couple months since the last point update and the security updates don't make the front page, so yes, I do think it is FP worthy.
Re:Extra extra(?) (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Extra extra(?) (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Screen Spanning Doctor (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Why is this on the main ./ page? (Score:2)
So? 10.3.1, 10.3.2, 10.3.3, 10.3.4, 10.3.5, and 10.3.6 were free also. Even all the security patches and iApp updates were free.
Same goes for 10.2.1, 10.2.2, 10.2.3, 10.2.4, 10.2.5, 10.2.6,
Re:um, how about SMB browsing fix? (Score:2)
Re:um, how about SMB browsing fix? (Score:3, Informative)
This sounds promising:
Re:um, how about SMB browsing fix? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:um, how about SMB browsing fix? (Score:3, Interesting)
Sounds about right for the major OpenGL changes in both the ATI and NVIDIA drivers.
Re:10.3.7 snappier? Not mail. (Score:3, Interesting)