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Apple Posts Server Command-Line and JBoss Manuals 45

Posted by pudge from the mmm-documentation dept.
critterboy writes "Apple today posted copies of the Mac OS X Server version 10.3 Command-Line Administration and Java Application Server documentation for both JBoss, Tomcat and WebObjects."
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  • NSController (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Nutcase ( 86887 ) on Friday October 24, 2003 @11:54AM (#7300944) Homepage Journal
    Apparently there are new classes in Panther called NSController that are funky and cool coding goodness... but they are all NDAd or something, so I can't find any info on them yet. Wonder when they will post that documentation. Hmm.
    • Google first hit:
      http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?NSControlle r

      Come on, people...
      • Hey wow.. that link is to a page i've already read which basically says "Hey, there's something New called NSController but it's NDAd so theres no documentation. Can anyone share?" There is also some info at the new cocoabb that has the same basic "NDAd sorry" info. In fact, cocoabb got me to google for it, hence me having already read that page.

        Thanks for the attempted (and failed) mockery. Next time try reading your links before you stake your credibility on them.

        Anyone out there have a link to some re

        • Re:NSController (Score:5, Informative)

          by kwerle ( 39371 ) <kurt@CircleW.org> on Friday October 24, 2003 @05:35PM (#7304593) Homepage Journal
          So, a few quotes: ...so I can't find any info on them yet...

          Google first hit:
          It seems to be an InterfaceBuilder-integration component; you can create various "controller" objects in IB and form various bindings/glue that would previously have had to be done programmatically. Apparently, this is resurrected functionality from EnterpriseObjectsFramework... ...NSController seems to be a bridge that plugs the M into the V of MVC. EG, its a C of MVC that automagically has tables filled from arrays, etc.

          I'd say that's more than "no info".
          • Touche.

            It isnt much for /how/ it works or how it's implemented or how you code it, etc. But it sure makes for a nice description of what it is... enough to make me salivate anyway. My apologies if I was overly harsh previously.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by account_deleted ( 4530225 )
      Comment removed based on user account deletion
    • NSController is nothing new.

      The framework may have been extended and should have since Openstep to Rhapsody to OS X 10.0 to Panther.

      That is the evolution of such frameworks.

      It first was NXController back in the NeXTStep 3.3 and prior days, by the way.
    • Have a look at Apple's Developer docs on NSController [apple.com]

      It is fully explained there, complete with examples.

    • Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • It seems that JBoss and J2EE are available as standard on Panther Server. If I remember correctly then this was not the case with Jag Server.

  • cool, good CLI centralization + GUI tools (Score:5, Interesting)

    by danigiri ( 310827 ) on Friday October 24, 2003 @01:30PM (#7302055)
    Geez, cheking out that CLI admin document. Pretty extensive and hands-on.

    Starts up with basic commands (ssh and the like), giving way to more in-depth info, XML configuration files, etc.

    There seems to be some sort of centralized group of commands. For instance, there is the 'systemsetup' command, that handles a plethora of tasks: energy saver, time, sleep-wakeup, languages, startup... That might be helpful and a cool deviation from the traditional make-changes-in-many-places syndrome that has plagued UNIX and the like for years.

    OTOH, there's a nice review [macworld.com] of Panther Server with cool screenshots on Maccentral.

  • Best line (Score:5, Insightful)

    by gerardrj ( 207690 ) * on Friday October 24, 2003 @01:42PM (#7302199) Journal
    For the time being, Apple will ship the Xserve with Jaguar Server and Panther Server for those organizations that need a bit more time before they upgrade.

    Apple isn't asking them to make a choice, they're saying "If you use Jaguar server now, keep using it, but here's a copy of Panther server so yo can upgrade to it when you're ready."

    Could you ever imagine Microsoft allowing Dell, HP or Compaq to ship 2000 and XP on the same order just in case the customer was using 2000 and didn't want to upgrade to XP yet?

    • I imagine so. I imagine that Microsoft would jump for joy if Dell, HP/Compaq and whatnot shipped both Win2K and XP on all their hardware.

      The difference being that Dell, HP, etc, would have to buy both copies, and would like as not pass the costs on to the consumer/businness.
    • I have purchased dozens of Compaqs (just before the HP merger was all set) and they came with 2000 and XP installed.

      Before that, I purchased dozens that had NT4 and 2000 as options.

      YOu can only choose one (no dual boot), but that seems to answer your question. :-)

      -sid
      • YOu can only choose one (no dual boot), but that seems to answer your question.

        Quite right - a difference would be that if you choose NT, 2K gets wiped, so there's no future upgrade. I'm assuming Apple ships CD's for both.

        • Quite right - a difference would be that if you choose NT, 2K gets wiped, so there's no future upgrade. I'm assuming Apple ships CD's for both.

          Hrm. I'm not sure about that.

          When it came time to get Windows 2000 on the NT4 boxen, I plugged in the restore CDs and I was off and running with Windows 2000.

          The Restore CDs ask which OS to install. The nice little sticker on the side of the case has keys for both.

          I suppose it's possible I've broken a rule somewhere.

          -sid

    • I know that Compaq shipped some iPaqs with both Windows NT and Windows 2000... you chose which you wanted during startup and it would nuke the other. You can change your mind later by running the software restore disk.

      What I want is a revised Xserve!
      Dual power supplies optional, ECC memory, and G5's.
  • I'm sorry, but i did not find "WebObjects" mentioned once in the two relevant PDF's. The only thing is that the JBoss Admin app is a WO App, given the .woa in the url of the webbased program. I'd expect seamless JBoss integration, but seamless WebObjects integration?

    " Xserve and WebObjects Power iTunes Music Store [macworld.com]" writes Jim Dalrymple on MacCentral. "Apple based the store on Mac OS X Server and Web Objects 5.2 using Xserves and Xserve RAIDs to store the more than 200,000 songs available to the public."
  • Speaking of Panther CLI, has anybody had luck editing the DeviceSupport.drprofile to add unsupported optical burners? (like PatchBurn for 10.2). The XML is fairly self-documenting, but it seems to need to be compiled or something as the changes I make aren't picked up.

    drtool is neat, and seems to do everything else for DiscRecording, but not this.

    Buler?
  • OK, I'm not a Java fanatic so I have no idea what these things are. What the heck is JBoss and what is it's supposed advantage?
    • Google [google.com]

      That's what you're looking for, this is /. ;)

    • Re:What are these? (Score:4, Informative)

      by tb3 ( 313150 ) on Saturday October 25, 2003 @03:39PM (#7309320) Homepage
      JBoss is an Open Source J2EE Application Server, that directly competes with the expensive offerings from BEA (WebLogic) and IBM (WebSphere) to name the top two.

      JBoss has had a hard time getting Sun certification as J2EE compliant, but now that it has been certified, OS X Server 10.3 + JBoss + Apple's Server Tools should make the XServe rather attractive to J2EE shops.

      Here is a complete hardware solution, for less than the cost of a Weblogic licence!

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