Apple Releases Darwin 6.7, 6.8 72
PowerMacDaddy writes "In an ongoing effort to keep the FreeBSD core of OS X open source, Apple has updated Darwin to 6.7 and 6.8, which corresponds to the OS X 10.2.7 and 10.2.8 updates, respectively. Source code is available."
Question (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Question (Score:5, Insightful)
I think the question should be more about what you need rather than which is better.
Altp.
Re:Question (Score:5, Interesting)
No. It's just a little different. It uses a different kernel. It has a different architecture for device drivers. It uses a NetInfo to store various configuration information.
It doesn't have FreeBSD Ports (a simple way for users and administrators to install applications). It's got it's own thing instead, which isn't as good (yet).
The reason I'd use BSD is for FreeBSD Ports, so I think the folks using Darwin are mostly just doing it since no one else is, and it's geeky.
It also makes sense if you're primarily interested in administering a MacOS X network, but I don't see why you wouldn't spend the cash on Mac OS X Server.
Re:Question (Score:5, Informative)
NetInfo is usually the first place to look for things(after the cache..)
(if i understand this correctly)
Lookupd slowness (Score:2)
Re:Lookupd slowness (Score:2, Informative)
lookupd -configuration (shows current config)
lookupd -d (interactive mode)
man lookupd (No comments..
The lookupd config files/netinfo data does not exist(?) afaik. So you will have to create them yourself in order to change the lookup order.
Re:Lookupd slowness (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Lookupd slowness (Score:2)
It makes two-three queries -> four to six seconds.
It's very common. Fix it by either fixing DNS, or creating a complete hosts file.
At one point, I was asked by an employer to create a 500 line hosts file nightly via DNS, and then push it out to all the boxes. If we ever lost DNS (it happened once), those 500 boxes wouldn't be hosed until DNS came back up. The one time DNS died, it worked remarkably well. It's actually not a horrible idea.
no problem here . . . mostly (Score:1)
I'd like to segue from that into asking if anyone knows whether it's possible to set up the
Re:no problem here . . . mostly (Score:1)
To be able to find your computer try dyndns.org. they offer your own domain name like mysite.dyndns.org, and they have a client that will update your domain with your ip address periodically , this works great if your ip changes a lot.
This is just off the top of my head, so google around if you
Re:no problem here . . . mostly (Score:2)
Re:no problem here . . . mostly (Score:2)
Re:Question (Score:4, Insightful)
It makes sense if you have an old PC lying around...
Re:Question (Score:5, Informative)
DarwinPorts is different (Re:Question) (Score:1)
DarwinPorts is TCL-based [gene-hacker.net], just as Gentoo [gentoo.org] Portage is Python-based, so neither of these are really BSD Ports. For a real BSD Ports, the system must be based on Makefiles, not Portfiles [gene-hacker.net] or ebuilds.
The NetBSD Packages Collection "pkgsrc" [netbsd.org] claims it can run on Darwin because it is cross-platform. It is based on Makefiles. However, I don't know how well it works on Darwin.
"17 Meg file" may become a piece of Slash lore (Score:1)
10.2.8 (Score:4, Funny)
Re:10.2.8 (Score:5, Funny)
That explains the lack of comments!
10.2.8 (Score:3, Funny)
Re:10.2.8 (Score:2, Funny)
Well if they wrote it for them, then they'd already have it. And have the right to do whatever they wanted with it, including the parts Apple wrote. I don't quite see why this is bad. Perhaps you could elaborate.
Re:10.2.8 (Score:2)
OTOH, if you feel that the modifications that the company has made to your code, or the ad-on features are stuff you didn't want to cade but you wanted to have, and you f
Re:10.2.8 (Score:2)
Not exactly news (Score:5, Insightful)
The recent botched 10.2.8 updated included a kernel upgrade, from Darwin 6.6 to Darwin 6.8. So while the news here is that the kernel update is, apparently, available as an independent download, the question remains whether or not this kernel release had anything to do with the problems people are having with 10.2.8.
Obviously there have been questions about the updated ethernet drivers, but because so many things changed with the 10.2.8 release, and because the bug reports have been so varied, it's hard to know if the new kernel is buggy, and it's easy to suspect that the ethernet driver may not have been the only component at fault.
It's nice to see that Slashdot has picked up a story that MacSlash ran a day or two ago, but I for one am more interested in hearing about a fix for the damage that 10.2.8 brought with it for many people. When are we going to get a patch for that?
Re:Not exactly news (Score:1)
Re:Friends?? (Score:5, Insightful)
It's very newsworthy among the Unix/apple community that Darwin's been changed.
If you're interested in Domino and ORacle AS, there are appropriate places to go for that.
Thanks.
Already Upgraded (Score:5, Informative)
In other news... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:In other news... (Score:1, Offtopic)
Re:In other news... (Score:1, Offtopic)
Re:In other news... (Score:2)
BTW, it's too bad that my last mod point just expired. Otherwise I would have helped the poor lad out.
Re:In other news... (Score:2)
Does not compute. (Score:1)
So, when they don't update it, it would become closed somehow? I don't get it.
Re:Does not compute. (Score:4, Interesting)
When they don't update darwin to match the updates in MacOS X, the FreeBSD core of (the current release of) MacOS X isn't open source.
Even for an annoying nitpicker like me, that was a perfectly reasonable sentence.
-fred
Following Darwin (Score:2, Interesting)
There had purportedly been a memory leak in 10.2.6 (corresponding to Darwin 6.6)-any confirmation of that or a possible fix in these lastest versions of Darwin?
JGG
Re:I HATE MACS (Score:2, Informative)
I recently opened up my TiBook to check out the AirPort card. The instructions (which you obviously didn't read) were still kicking around from last year when I installed it. Nice drawings, good tech artists.
Turn upside down. You remove the battery and 8 screws. Do not remove the keyboard or any drives. One small philips screwdriver should do it. Slide case, and off. Then it's right there, next to the battery well - a dedicated PCMCIA slot next to the real PCMCIA slot. You plug it in, connect
Re:What ticks me off. (Score:4, Funny)
re: not exactly news (Score:3, Informative)
as the dust settles... (Score:1)
10.1.5 and latest darwin kernel (Score:1)
Okay, I admit i am just way too cheap to upgrade. US$129 to upgrade to 10.2.x [apple.com] no thanks.
Is it possible to compile the latest darwin kernel and use it with 10.1.5?
I see bomb boxesRe:10.1.5 and latest darwin kernel (Score:1)