Pods Unite 381
burgburgburg writes "Apple has released the QuickTime video of the new commercial they made in conjunction with Volkswagen. The connection between the two? Buy a New Beetle. Get a new iPod. Take a look at video.
It's the 15 GB iPod and all the accessories needed to hook it up to the new Volkswagen." It uses a casette adapter, which is really lame. Of course, I use a casette adapter with my iPod, but I am not a German engineer.
My iPod is super! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:My iPod is super! (Score:5, Funny)
Moreso if you're driving a Volkswagon Beetle.
Re:My iPod is super! (Score:2, Funny)
Re:My iPod is super! (Score:4, Interesting)
The girls I know like clean cars with luxurious acoutrements. Past a certain point, they don't care about how fast or loud or covered with chrome and decals it is. These are people who like SUBTLETY, who obsess over details, safey and cuteness. That's the beetle for you.
Besides, the volkswagen beetle is a nice car. It's comfortable inside, surprisingly roomy despite its apparent size, and there are lots of really nice editions out there. My personal favorite is the 1.8 turbo with the two tone leather interior, sunroof, sport suspension, rims painted to match the paint job...I've got a friend who drives one of these in jet black, and he gets more bumper than a body shop (to quote the film Airheads). In fact, of all the members of his rockabilly band (with their requisite 1960s chevrolets), his car gets the most attention. Could also be the drumming. Chicks dig a drummer.
Re:My iPod is super! (Score:5, Funny)
Most girls are not impressed, true. However, girls that want to have casual sex know that a guy in a Mustang or Porche is driving it because he's horny, lonely, and wants lots of sex, and acting as if they are impressed is an easy way to open conversation.
Girls who don't want to have casual sex do not interest guys who drive Mustangs. They will drive Astro vans or Volkswagons if and when they are ready to settle down and get married.
By the way, according to Car Talk, [cars.com] the Beetle is the second-gayest car in America.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Re:My iPod is super! (Score:3)
For one thing, the Geo Tracker isn't even on the list. Here's a car that was WHITE with PINK AND PURPLE lettering down one side.
For another, the Jeep Wrangler is the ULTIMATE car of blondes out for a good time, and with the proper tire aspect, of frat guys looking for trouble. It is by no means gay.
(FYI, I drive the only volkswagen not on the list. SCORE 1 FOR DAS' SEXUALITY!)
Re:My iPod is super! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:My iPod is super! (Score:3, Funny)
> mine is black with flames painted on the side.
> It doesn't look gay anymore
You had your iPod painted black then had them add little tiny flames on the sides and you don't think that seemed gay?
Re:My iPod is super! (Score:3, Funny)
That's because the chicks aren't threatened by you: They think you're gay.
Hmm, come to think of it, you might be on to something.
Re:My iPod is super! (Score:5, Funny)
calling clueful car manufacturers (Score:5, Interesting)
Would it kill these guys to put a mini-jack on the dash (or somewhere) and an AUX setting on the stereo.
Bueller? Anyone?
Hedley
Re:calling clueful car manufacturers (Score:2)
Including bicylces and mp3 jukeboxes makes sense though.
Re:calling clueful car manufacturers (Score:5, Insightful)
There are also the FM senders that you can attach to the iPod, which then are received by the car's FM stereo -- a wireless connection -- but I have heard mixed reviews of the sound quality.
Speaking of sound quality, the song that plays in this commercial is horrible.
Re:calling clueful car manufacturers (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:calling clueful car manufacturers (Score:4, Insightful)
1. Analogue freq dial thingies. Those radioshack 20$ FM transmitters are useless to get on an odd frequency [recall FM is on odd freqs, e.g 93.9, 94.1, etc...].
2. Most populated cities have one useless station after another throughout the bands. All either discussing the rhetoric of the day [newsradio] or playing the teeny-bopper-I-wish-upon-a-pair-of-nice-melons musak. Oh yeah,and don't forget that even if you find a relatively unused band the thing only has a 2 foot range so you better tape it to the hood of your car beside the attenna!
As another poster asked it "would it hurt to put a aux jack 1/8" in the front?". It makes sense and would allow people to plug in new shit much easier than via casettes [which can jam] and FM transmitters [which suck ass anyways].
Or just better yet, build mp3 pod players into cars all together. E.g. like a removable harddrive tray. Just remove it, take it inside, program it, boom.
Tom
Re:calling clueful car manufacturers (Score:2)
True, but I've become a big fan of the Griffen iTrip [griffentechnologies.com] (mentioned here elsewhere, as well, i believe) - the thing can transmit on any public FM frequency, so it's easy to find an odd-numbered station that isn't already covered (or whose coverage is weak).
They're about to ship the new iTrip with support for the new iPods. They're sleek, they use n
Re:calling clueful car manufacturers (Score:3, Informative)
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Re:calling clueful car manufacturers (Score:2, Informative)
This has also worked in two of my friends car, but admittedly they were just local trips, so I can't say how well it would trav
Re:calling clueful car manufacturers (Score:3, Interesting)
I noticed that problem with an iRock transmitter on a trip to Phoenix...the four frequencies on which it transmits are all i
Re:calling clueful car manufacturers (Score:2)
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Re:calling clueful car manufacturers (Score:4, Informative)
Their conclusion, however, was that FM transmitters kinda suck in general. Much better to simply get a line-in.
There was one! (Score:2)
I remember very specifically, for when I saw it, I went off on a giant geek tirade at the dealer, asking why this hasn't been as standard as the AC plug on every single car in the world for many years. (Conspiracy for 3rd party decks?)
Re:There was one! (Score:2)
I don't even think many non-factory stereos have this option anymore.
shame
Re:There was one! (Score:2)
Re:calling clueful car manufacturers (Score:3, Interesting)
The other option is if you aren't using a trunk CD player and the head unit has RCA inputs, have an RCA to Mini adpater hanging out of your dash- then just plug and play.
Re:calling clueful car manufacturers (Score:2)
Not only aux in, but what about cell phones? (Score:2)
All it would take would be for manufacturers to decide on the jack type, and walla, no more need for fools getting in car wrecks because they are driving one handed and/or looking down at their phones, trying to dial a number.
add in a cellphone with voice dialing, and some features t
Re:Not only aux in, but what about cell phones? (Score:3, Insightful)
And here's where the Bluetooth phone could shine, as the simple act of bringing the phone into or out of the car could magically set up forwarding for you.
And for that matter, if the car had Bluetooth to work with your phone, and you
Re:calling clueful car manufacturers (Score:5, Informative)
I have been using the cassette adapter option in my 4Runner, but recently I started looking into the option of having a direct plug in to the stereo from my iPod. A little poking around lead to this [rcainput.com] company. The short of it is that I can plug one of these adapters into the CD-changer input on the back of my factory stereo and then run a mini-jack from the iPod directly into it. My local Toyota dealer tells me they can install it with a factory appearance for $40 making this a must have option.
Cassette Adapters (Score:5, Insightful)
You'd think that designing and implementing such a thing would cost a fraction of what it costs to make and run this advertisent.
I would like to see some kind of poll of which is more useful to people.. a tape player or a 1/8th inch stereo input jack. After all, you can plug an external tape player into a jack easier, with more elegance, and for about the same cost as you can plug an external mp3 player into the tape player.. and I don't have any tapes anymore...
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Re:Cassette Adapters (Score:3, Informative)
Some people figure out ways to hack an aux-in from the cd-changer interface, but it seems so trivial for manufacturers to provide this, I don't know why all of them don't.
Re:Cassette Adapters (Score:5, Informative)
There are plenty of them out there. I've never seen one on a stock auto-stereo, but take a trip to your local Best Buy / Circuit City etc.. and you'll see them available.
[bestbuy.com]
The very first model to pop up on Best Buy's page has one. I'm sure you can find more.
Re:Cassette Adapters (Score:2)
I think this is the source of confusion here. The original poster gave us:
Why, oh why, can't they just start giving us a 1/8th input jack on car stereos?
The "they" has no antecedent, really, but presumably applies to the article, in which case "they" is presumably car designers.
I think what he was really asking is why there are no stock car stereos that have a 1/8th input jack - why car manufactorers don't start including them as standard equipment. This
They used to... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Cassette Adapters (Score:2)
Even better, they could build in a docking port into the dash somehow. On apple's dock, the firewire line supplies power which could come from the car's system, and it also has a line-out jack which could run to the amplifier. There is a connector on the top of the iPod for remote control which could also be wired to the car's audio controls.
I don't know why someone doesn't make a docking station for cars, it wouldn't be that difficult.
Blaupunkt with aux (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Cassette Adapters (Score:2)
Perhaps, but that would pale in comparison to the cost of fielding thousands of questions from customers asking why their headphones didn't work when plugged into that jack.
Re:Cassette Adapters (Score:2, Insightful)
Is there something inherently wrong with coaxial optical outputs? A lot of people seem to get a chubby about using optical, yet in this case, and even for multi-channel high-sample rate sound, a simple RCA coaxial cable is more than sufficient, and the quality is 100% (i.e. 100% of the bits make it through unscathed). Somehow thousands of suckers are out spending $40 for a 12" optical cable...must be right afte
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New Acronym (Score:5, Funny)
damn (Score:3, Funny)
In Car Firewire or USB ? (Score:4, Interesting)
BTW I think this will be better than those in car removable hard drive solutions from 2-3 years ago
Re:In Car Firewire or USB ? (Score:2, Funny)
Excellent for back seat driving.
Is it really an incentive? (Score:3, Insightful)
Think of the buying experience (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Is it really an incentive? (Score:3, Insightful)
It's a tie in deal. VW has done this in the past with Trek cycles (you buy a Jetta, you get a $200 Trek 800), K2 Snowboards (you buy a Jetta, you get this snowboard and no damn boots or bindings), and if i'm not mistaken they had an e-edition golf with a MS PocketPC.
A tie-in doesn't really save anybody any
Re:Is it really an incentive? (Score:2)
How interesting (Score:2)
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A good thing... (Score:4, Interesting)
In other news... (Score:2, Funny)
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Re:In other news... (Score:3, Funny)
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VW *used* to provide a 1/8" input jack (Score:5, Informative)
Re:VW *used* to provide a 1/8" input jack (Score:2)
VW Bug engines used to be so easy to remove that people would go grocery shopping, come back to their car and drive away then wonder why their engine suddenly sucked monkey balls. Take it to the mechanic only to find out somebody swapped their new engine with an old one! Kids were taking these engines and putting th
Re:VW *used* to provide a 1/8" input jack (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:VW *used* to provide a 1/8" input jack (Score:2)
Re:VW *used* to provide a 1/8" input jack (Score:2)
ITrip (Score:2, Informative)
Re:ITrip (Score:2)
Re:ITrip (Score:2)
Really? The iTrip (which I own) has settings for both FCC and European regulatory domains and allows selection of any band from 87.9MHz to 107.9Mhz in 0.2MHz steps (in the FCC domain--it allows 0.1MHz steps when set for European domains).
German engineer? (Score:2, Interesting)
still waiting (Score:2, Funny)
That's NOTHING ... (Score:2, Funny)
This isn't VW's big pull to align with apple (obviously the thing interacts through a tape deck). This is a gimick. They going to throw in a chop-o-matic too?
Integration (Score:5, Interesting)
I wonder if the car can control the ipod - i.e. fast forward, rewind, etc. The older-style remote protocol is documented here [maushammer.com] so that you can build an interface to anything you want. It includes nice pictures & working source code!
Re:Integration (Score:2)
Now if it plugged in upside down (wouldn't work in my car, but up on the ceiling portion above/in front of the rearview in some cars would work), then it would make sense, I think.
Re:Integration (Score:3, Informative)
Good lord man, why would you want that? From the video (which is a wicked commercial, btw) the iPod swivels and is fully exposed so you can, you know, use it. Plus it w
Re:Integration (Score:2)
8-Track (Score:4, Funny)
Re:8-Track (Score:2)
iTrip (Score:4, Interesting)
The website has been stating "shipping soon" for a very long time now. At any rate, this could be an easier connection than a tape cassette, except for the possible trade-off of sound quality.
Re:iTrip (Score:2)
They are in Apple Stores now. I was in Chicago this past week, and saw them with my own eyes.
Re:iTrip (Score:2)
Re:iTrip (Score:3, Informative)
I mostly use iTrip with my
Re:iTrip (Score:3, Interesting)
A better way to connect your iPod (Score:5, Informative)
In 2003 beetles, the CD Changer is prewired to be installed between the seats (remove the insert). In the older models, it's wired to the trunk. There are also adapters that plug in behind the head unit, rather than using the cd cabling.
This way you don't need to use a FM transmitter or casette adapter, and you don't need to change the stock radio (and run into the K-wire problem)
Just a crappy cassette adapter? (Score:5, Interesting)
Depending on what kind of stereo you've got, you may be able to get an auxiliary input cable adapter. I got one from XMFanstore [yahoo.com] for the OEM stereo in my car, which has an unused aux connector for a CD changer-- the adapter I bought just ends in female RCA jacks, so you can hook up pretty much any audio input to it. Maybe one of these days I'll be in the mood to take the center console apart and pull the stereo out to connect that cable. Until then, I'm using a crappy cassette adapter.
Another product I'll be getting when it's available is this RF iPod remote control. [engineeredaudio.com] I plan to run the cable to a storage compartment in the console, so the iPod will be out of sight/the way but I'll still be able to control it.
I agree with the "Why aren't they putting God damned input jacks on car stereos yet?" sentiment. What we really need are car stereos and MP3 players with Bluetooth, so they can connect that way. Of course, then you'd have short battery life without plugging the MP3 player into an auto power adapter-- but at least pretty much every car has someplace to plug one of those in.
~Philly
About the cassette adapter... (Score:2, Interesting)
no thanks (Score:2, Interesting)
cassette adapters are a joke.
Really really bad sound quality... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Really really bad sound quality... (Score:2)
Fish, meet Bait.. (Score:5, Insightful)
Oh, I know, maybe you thought they were giving away the ipods.
For a group that does a lot of whining about generic music a la britney spears every time the music debates come up, slashdot sure has a nice way of playing the marionette whenever some new pseudo-kitsch gadget or anime box set comes out..
Re:Fish, meet Bait.. (Score:2)
As for generic music, well you can load the iPod with whatever you like. Probably you were just alluding to some more abstract objection, but I don't see it. Apple's online music offering (integrated with the iPod) seems more accepted than most to slashdotters. If it were just up to the RIAA I don't thi
SO dissapointing... (Score:3, Interesting)
Instead, its a lame combination of just a generic casette adapter, a generic cigarette lighter slot charger, and a bumper sticker, which they're ALWAYS out of. Instead of buying a beetle with this lame system,
I think that I can build my own. All I need is a spare iPod dock, that kit that you can
I still think the PhatBox is the best thing going (Score:4, Informative)
I know, it's not cheap and doesn't support vorbis files and the manager is Windows only.
But to me the ability to control it through my factory head unit makes that a non-issue.
It does support mp3, wma, flac and audible.
If I wasn't leasing my car I would have gotten one as soon as Audi [audiusa.com] officially supported and started installing them.
Re:I still think the PhatBox is the best thing goi (Score:3, Interesting)
unofficial ogg for the ipod is found here [sixpak.org]
An alternative (Score:2)
I think the iPod is cool, but it just doesn't work in a car. So I went with an in-trunk HDD player [ssiamerica.com] that has adapters for Alpine, Kenwood, Pioneer, and VW head units to make it appear to be either a Siruis radio or multi-disc CD changer. The only cable is hidden in your car just like an ordinary in-trunk disc changer.
When I want to sync music, I slide the unit
German engineers (Score:5, Funny)
Which just goes to prove my theory: German engineers love cassette adapters.
And David Hasselhoff.
Awesome commercial (Score:3, Insightful)
I can't be the only slashdot poster to see past the technical aspects of hooking up an iPod in a car and see one very very beautifull add. Without looking it up my guess would be that the Volkswagen people put the add together, it's in their style.
With its style & music I put it on the same level as the recent technically cool Honda [slashdot.org] add.
Honda Element has an input jack in the glovebox (Score:3, Informative)
Of course, the Element is targeted to the surfer wilderness crowd, but hopefully they'll start to see that other people have iPods, too.
Just confusing (Score:3, Insightful)
"It was inevitable, really. When two groups of people have so much in common, eventually they find each other. Volkswagen and Apple. Buy a New Beetle. Get a new iPod. And the kit that brings them together (plus a lot of other cool stuff like free music and a $100 Apple Store coupon). Learn more about this special deal."
I noticed that if you want to generate a feeling in the reader's mind, lots of short sentence fragments really prevent that from happening.
I bought one Friday! (Score:2)
They refused to ship it to a P.O. Box, which was inconvienent for me, but no big deal, we are just happy to have a nice new Yellow Bug
Why doesn't apple make... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:What's with the gay comments? (Score:2)
Re:What's with the gay comments? (Score:2)
Guess what, it would rock even more if they'd had the sense to build the Turbo S Beetle with a simple audio-in =)
Re:Weird (Score:4, Informative)
Re:If you pay MSRP.... (Score:2)
Oh yeah, buy some random rental beater that has been abused the last 25,000 miles. That's real smart. You ever see how people drive those cars? Or how the company takes care of them?
Re:Toureg (Score:3, Informative)
You do realize that a restored beetle is much more affordable than a Toureg. I've seen some really nice frame off, nut and bolt, complete restorations go for around $10,000. You can get a Restored VW for each day of the week instead of a Toureg. Lets say an Oval window for Monday, A split for Tuesday, A Super for Wednesday, A convertable for Thurdsay and a Baja for Friday.
Re:two overpriced underperforming technologies (Score:5, Insightful)
You see, there are many different directions engineering goes in. Making faster engines or bigger SUVs is one direction. Making efficient engines and safer small cars is another. Making a high capacity hard drive is one. Making a regular capacity hard drive light enough to carry around is another.
But maybe you're right. Maybe there are some things we just shouldn't bother engineering. So, you know, all of these "feed the world" biotech kooks and "reduce the depletion of our natural resources" solar energy kooks should just give up.
Oh, and as for the "50% too high" comment: fuck you. You don't know what the margin is, know less about business than you do about engineering and Apple shouldn't drop the prices that are keeping them alive just to appease people who don't want an iPod anyway. My 30 gb iPod was the easiest $538.92 I ever spent (after selling four shitty mp3 players that were too big, bulky, poorly designer or low capacity, I found myself with over $600...enough to buy a couple CDs, too).