Easy Character Accents in Mac OS X? 126
joesao writes "How have people been typing accents under OS X? I'm not talking funky key combinations, but simple, 'dead-key' stuff like: a + ` = à. In Windows this is accomplished easily by setting the input locale for keyboards as 'United States-International' but the similar function under System Preferences doesn't have any acceptable keyboards. Unicode isn't an option, either; only a few applications support that. Documentation on Apple's site is scant, and a Google search doesn't yield anything that really works. Anybody out there have a decent keyboard file for Mac OS X?"
easy as Pi (Score:4, Funny)
(It's a jolk, folks, honest!
I want a PPC970 machine. NOW! *sigh*
One of us is a dumbass, but it could be me... (Score:5, Informative)
Here is a sorta technical document about accented and special characters...
Netscape [netscape.com]
Here is a pretty layout of what buttons to press...
Harvard [harvard.edu]
US Keyboard is the right layout. (Score:5, Informative)
à (aka option-` `).
î (aka option-i i).
use key caps (in utilities) for more information (hold down option).
Note this was the same as mac OS 7-9.
Re:US Keyboard is the right layout. (Score:3, Insightful)
é -- e with acute accent (option+e e)
è -- e with grave accent (option+` e)
ê -- e with circumflex (option+i e)
ñ -- n with tilde (option+n n)
å -- a with ring above (option+a)
ü -- u with umlaut/diaresis (option+u u)
ç -- c with cedilla (option+c)
Re:US Keyboard is the right layout. (Score:2)
Re:US Keyboard is the right layout. (Score:1)
Keycaps and hints (Score:5, Informative)
To do basic combinations, try things like option-e, option-i, option-u, and then hit whatever letter you want the accent to appear over. So option-e-e would give you é.
It seems like it might be tricky, but after a while it becomes second nature.
Re:Keycaps and hints (Score:5, Informative)
This has been the way that Apple has always done accents, but as I was testing it out, I noticed a new feature (at least in Safari).
When you type Option-`, for example, a little yellow block appears with an accent grave in it. The next letter you type will get the accent grave (as long as the accent can be added to that letter).
The ones I'm aware of are
Re:Keycaps and hints (Score:2)
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One more important one: (Score:3, Funny)
Option-o BØRK!
I'm sure you'll wonder how you lived without that one.
Re:Keycaps and hints (Score:1)
If you're using a Carbon app, you'll notice that that still doesn't happen.
Re:Keycaps and hints (Score:1)
aigu, but in English, we say acute. é
Option-i carat (?)
circumflex (circonflexe in French). î
Regards,
The Cunning Linguist
A new topic for "Switch" commercials (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:A new topic for "Switch" commercials (Score:2)
This has nothing to do with "switching" and everything to do with most users in the US not needing to type accents very often. Those who do can turn on the proper layout.
Re:A new topic for "Switch" commercials (Score:3, Informative)
In Europe, where people NEED accents and have different keyboard in each country, it's still a pain in the ass to type É È À Ç Ê OE Æ oe æ with MS Windows.
MS Word under MS Windows have its own way to manage it, but it's a different way from all the others apps.
I don't know why MS keep that in that way...
( BTW: http://www.xvsxp.com )
Re:A new topic for "Switch" commercials (Score:2)
Re:A new topic for "Switch" commercials (Score:2)
All Chars is available at:
http://allchars.zwolnet.com/userman122.html
Highly recommended, even though it lacks some of the features of Compose.exe (appare
Re:A new topic for "Switch" commercials (Score:2)
This site useful? (Score:3, Informative)
I haveta admit though, if this answers your question, I'll be a little surprised you could't find it within Google. This was the first search term I tried.
Accents under OS X (Score:5, Funny)
This should take care of your needs.
Italian:
Just add "a" to the end of all words. (e.g. "This-a is-a how-a it-a looks-a!")
English:
Remove all 'h's.
Scottish:
Remove all coherence.
Australian:
Apparently, Australia is an advanced civilization where they have efficiently replaced every noun with the word "Foster's."
American:
Pepper your writing liberally with the word "like".
Re:Accents under OS X (Score:3, Funny)
Untrue, some of us drink beer.
Re:Accents under OS X (Score:1)
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Portuguese keyboard (Score:2, Interesting)
O José bateu com o pé e não se aleijou muito, mas como é chorão, chorou muito.
Portuguese Woks (Score:2)
Re:Portuguese keyboard (Score:1)
"Jose beat with the foot and he was not crippled very, but as it is chorão, he cried very."
Um... OK. Did I say babel fish? I meant Yoda fish. My bad.
The layout for the US International (Score:5, Informative)
The add-on layout for US International can be found at http://www.brockerhoff.net/usi/ [brockerhoff.net].
This piece of software is absolutely necessary for typing in Portuguese (especially here in Brazil, where a common US keyboard layout is quite common, and the population is used to the US layout with dead-keys -- dating from the time of typewriters).
Please, do let Apple know that you need this keyboard layout.
I sent them my feedback about this quite a while ago (I think that I can post here the mail if I find it), but more people letting them know would promptly make them aware of its importance.
Re:The layout for the US International (Score:3, Informative)
Sorry, I should have said that I already knew about the "option+letter" combinations. That's what I meant by "funky" key combinations, in my original post.
This US International keyboard at brockerhoff.net is THE REAL DEAL. It is truly absurd that Apple doesn't incorporate it into OS X.
No, anything else *
Re:The layout for the US International (Score:2)
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Re:The layout for the US International (Score:2)
OSX also supports "US Extended" but that layout doesn't change the dead key locations. It does, however, support more diacretical marks and a number of Eastern and Northern European letters (e.g. the polish slashed L, eth, thorn, etc)
Re:The layout for the US International (Score:2, Informative)
Also, maybe because a regular keyboard is perfectly adequate, if only you have the functionality available to users of the Windows US-International keyboard layout, which I now happen to have, right here on my Powerbook.
That's why I can type things like:
"Eu sou de São Paulo e você é um babaca" or "Tu es un connard san
Dude, it's *way* easy... (Score:5, Informative)
Opt-U + Letter = An umlauted letter
(Opt-u + A = Ä)
Opt-` + Letter = A backwards accent letter
(Opt-` + e = è)
Opt-i + Letter = A caret-top letter
(Opt-i + i = î)
Opt-e + Letter = Accented letter
(Opt-e + ó)
Opt-n + Letter = An n-yayed letter
(Opt-n + n = ñ)
That's all I know off the top of my head. The only won I use regularily is the umlaut key for German, excuse the lack of knowledge on the real words for some of the kinds of accents.
But this is about the damndest easiest way to do it, less using a kb layout for a language which uses these letters.
If you ever need to find out how to do these again, open up Keycaps, in
It's a helluva lot better than ALT codes on WinDOS.
Re:Dude, it's *way* easy... (Score:4, Insightful)
option c =ç
for German
option s= ß
option \ =
for Latin
option ' = æ
option q = ?
For Spanish
option 1 =
option ? =
for corresponding with Europeans
option 3 = £
option @ =?
for lawyers
option 2 = ?
option 6 =
option 7 =
option g = ©
Re:Dude, it's *way* easy... (Score:2)
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Re:Dude, it's *way* easy... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Dude, it's *way* easy... (Score:3, Informative)
Unicode is fine (Score:5, Informative)
including TextEdit, Safari, iCal, Finder,
Address Book, Mail, the new Nisus beta,
etc. The apps that have problems are
all Carbon, because they don't invoke
ATSUI properly: MS Office v.X, AppleWorks,
Internet Exploder, etc. while BBEdit (which
should know better) is spotty for some
writing systems in some cases.
Even most of these apps can handle extended Latin, though. I'm guessing the poster didn't do his homework.
They've been doing... (Score:3, Informative)
Adobe's character access chart (Score:2, Informative)
Adobe has a good cheat-sheet of key combinations for special characters on their Type Library [adobe.com] page. The quick link is http://www.adobe.com/type/pdfs/characcessmac.pdf [adobe.com]
Two ways: (Score:5, Informative)
1) Fire up Key Caps, in your Utilities folder. Select the font you're using in the Font menu, and it will display all the default characters of a virtual keyboard. Try hitting the Shift key - you'll see the Shift key depress on the virtual keyboard, and the lowercase letters will change to uppercase, and numbers will change to the symbols that are universally recognized as cuss words for comic strip characters. Now try hitting the far more interesting Option (alt) key. Gaze in awe upon the alternate characters you can produce by typing Option-[character]. Also, notice the Option-[character]s with a light box around them? They're all diacritical marks - accents, umlaut, circumflex, etc. - that can be added to other letters. So, for example, if you want to put an umlaut (you know, the "Deathtöunge" dots) above an "o", you need to type Option-u, then an "o".
2) Use the Character Palette. From Apple's godawful-slow Help System:
Evan EvansonThe help system (Score:1)
As I type this in Safari, I can't help but wonder: how did they achieved such molassenesse?
Yes, I know it's offtopic...
Re:The help system (Score:2)
A couple options (Score:4, Informative)
You can use keycaps, as someone else mentioned.
Both of these only get you the stuff available from your current key layout.
For Cocoa apps, the TextExtras extension bundle (available at http://www.lorax.com/FreeStuff/TextExtras.html) has a built-in configurable character palette. One of the pre-defined panes in that panel has all the Unicode non-spacing marks. Clicking stuff in this panel will insert the clicked mark into the currently focused text area at the insertion point. In Unicode, non-spacing marks combine with the character before them.
Not only does this panel let you type non-spacing marks unavailable from the keyboard, it also lets you compose stuff that the dead-key input rejects as non-sense (such as the all-important n-umlaut needed for the correct spelling of "Spinal Tap". Even better, you can stack multiple non-spacing marks on a single character this way.
Non-Latin Alphabets (Score:1)
Re:Non-Latin Alphabets (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Non-Latin Alphabets (Score:2, Informative)
http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/utilities_fonts
"Mac OS X 10.2 introduced support for Arabic, Devanagari, Greek, Gujarati, Gurmukhi, Hebrew and Thai scripts."
Re:Non-Latin Alphabets (Score:1)
Textedit actually does a pretty good job with typing Arabic. (You have to enable & learn the Arabic keyboard layout of course, & don't forget to right-justify;) It can get confusing if you're trying to use both Latin & Arabic in the same document, since selecting text becomes a bit of a nightmare. I'm sure it follows some kind of logic, but I've never figured it out.
The thing I've been frustrated by is lack of web browser support. Camino & Safari both produce readable text now, but with st
Re:Non-Latin Alphabets (Score:2)
Character Palette (Score:2, Informative)
Go to the 'International' preference pane.
Choose the Input Menu Tab.
At the top of the list choose the check box for the Character Palette.
System Prefs: International (Score:2)
(I'm not sure if you need various langauges installed or not to do this.)
The Input Method tab lists all the installed keyboard layouts. If you select more than one of these layouts, you'll see a little flag in the menu bar. This menu allows you to select your current keyboard layout. if using the mouse isn't your syle, command-space bar will rotate layouts.
and there are other posts explaining how to use the option key to hit those internatio
Extended question.... (Score:2)
(First tone is a bar on top of the letter, second is a little u on top of the letter - to indicate a falling then rising tone).
Thanks!
Re:Extended question.... (Score:1)
This brief collection of pages [yale.edu] at Yale gives more info about OS X and Chinese inputting.
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Not all fonts support these, although Gentium [sil.org] supports every possible Latinate Unicode 3.0 glyph, and up to three levels of diacretics.
Enable the Character Paletter Menu (Score:5, Informative)
Go to the International Preference Pane, click on input menu at the right side and check on the character palette item. Now you'll see a little menu next to the last option in the menu bar. Click it to get a bunch of key entry options. The one for accents is "accented latin."
If you really like typing accented characters, try a software called PopChar Pro. I used to use it in OS 9 and I know there is an OS X version.
Re:Enable the Character Paletter Menu (Score:1)
Get this book: (Score:4, Informative)
This book is cicra 1990 but the basics of accenting and typing special characters on the Mac hasn't changed.
Just learn another key map! (Score:2, Informative)
this is interesting, cross platform util perhaps? (Score:1)
Perhaps there is a tool that can intercept keycombos etc, etc to Unicode
Straightforward (Score:1)
Ah, if your name were Håkan, you'd know what option-a does. And see, if your French girlfriend's name were Fran(option-c)oise... Oooh, here comes Bj(option-o)rn.
The meaning of the option-key symbol (Score:2, Informative)
As we're so intensly discussing the option/alt key, here's a little-known fact: the icon for that key does not symbolize a "step", but a train-track-switch.
So it's the spot where a train has the "option" (choice), to take an "alt"ernative route: to go left or right. This symbolizes what use of the option key nearly always comes down to: do the same thing in a slightly different way.
Once you know it, it's very logical, b
Changing Keyboard Layout (Score:1)
After selecting the ones you want, a little flag should show up on the menubar which al
Other font weirdness (Score:1)
In my terminal, typing l/ (lowercase l and a forward slash) produces a single character which looks like the l but with a small diagonal line running through it. It only does this in certain fonts, including monaco (which is the default font and imo the best looking 'terminal' type font).
It's not just typing l/, it's any time when l/ is displayed. So directory listings are usually really messy.
Helpfully, it does not
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Re:Other font weirdness (Score:1)
cd
and the l/ on the Paul is being merged into a single character.
AZERTY keyboard (Score:3, Informative)
apple has the best language support if you ask me, so this shouldnt be a problem at all. you can always use keycaps.
Re:AZERTY keyboard (Score:1)
Spain doesn't use AZERTY. Only France and Francophone countries do.
Input Menu (Score:2, Informative)
Extended characters áéëöüâêçƒß¥å (Score:2)
Easy on mac, why is this NOW in the news? (Score:2, Informative)
option-i for â etc
option-u for ä etc
option-n for ã etc
option-` for à etc
option-c for ©
Why did it take 3 years to make the macs accent key shortcuts to a notice?
Can someone tell me if the windows accent keys have any logic? I hate those alt-132, alt-256 etc combo strakes..
Set your keybord to swedish (Score:1)
jesus harold christ. (Score:1)
This l33t hax0r mac trick has been a basic part of Mac OS FOREVER, i remember being told in school how using [option]+XXX on a mac was so much easier than resorting to an ascii table, which you'd have to do on a PC at the time.
And it's not that Mac OS doesn't come with a keycaps application either.
Dead keys on Macs (Score:3, Informative)
On a US keyboard layout, the keys are as follows:
This is pretty US-centric, because each character used is the letter which people in the US usually see most commonly with that accent (none of these are common in US English, but they are common enough in loanwords and in snippets of other languages seen sometimes). The exception to this is the acute accent, which is seldom seen in the US at all, so it was given the ` key, which looks like an acute accent anyway.
Incidentally, this is not a new feature on Mac OS X. It has worked this way since at least the System 6 days, and probably even earlier than that. Although some of the bad Carbon ports out there don't provide the same visual feedback that Cocoa and ATSUI do, the key combinations will still work. They even work in the Terminal.
Re:Dead keys on Macs (Score:1)
Where the hell is the Hash/Gate key on my TiBook? (Score:1)
Anyone else notice this? Mine's a UK keyboard layout, but the lack of this key makes my life mildly difficult, especially when coding perl/xml.
Re:Where the hell is the Hash/Gate key on my TiBoo (Score:2)
Get this mouse pad (Score:1)
It's got a good subset of the Mac option-combinations (plus the windows alt-codes should one ever be in such a situation): http://www.lrb.co.uk/store/mmat.php [lrb.co.uk]
Apple does make those (Score:1)
Alternate Keyboard Layouts (Score:1)
Re-read the question before responding! (Score:1)
The question is: How does one use a true deadkey such as apostrophe, AND ONLY APOSTROPHE for accented characters in Mac OS X?
Think back to touch typing class: you learned SHIFT and only SHIFT to modify characters. OPTION is a computer convention great for keyboard short cuts but is maddening for touch typists who hope to type as quickly in their native language as one can in English.
The only valid answers have been those regarding non-English keyboard maps t
TypeIt4Me (Score:2)
Google...doesn't yield anything? (Score:1)
Re:What about Macron characters? (Score:3, Informative)