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Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.2.6 82

Numeric writes "Apple has released 10.2.6 update, which you can read in detail. Here's a partial list: Addresses an issue for Mac OS X 10.2.5 in which a kernel panic message may appear if certain USB hubs or devices are connected. Addresses an issue for Mac OS X 10.2.5 in which English is the default language and Asian language scripts are not be available in the International preference pane, if a script's font is not available. Address Book now supports the Sony Ericsson T610 phone."
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Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.2.6

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  • Granted, anything that can cause a kernel panic is serious is enough to warrant a patch, but it seems like its an otherwise small list of fixes, even for for a point release.
    • They're probably spending most of their time getting 10.3 (Panther) ready for release. It's gonna be interesting seeing if Panther really _will_ be available in a 64-bit variant for use on the PPC970 machines.
    • by stefanlasiewski ( 63134 ) * <slashdot AT stefanco DOT com> on Tuesday May 06, 2003 @04:52PM (#5895489) Homepage Journal
      It is a small list of fixes. 10.2.5 was released less then 3 weeks ago, if memory serves.

      Apple just needed to get the 10.2.6 patch out quickly, because it was a pretty signifigant bug for some people.

      Since the fix is probably at the kernel level, the fix warrants it's own patch version.

      This was my first real experience with an OS X problem. Took me 3 hours to figure out that my Godmother's G4 was crashing because of the USB hub. Pro bono, but at least I got some homecooked meals and some education out of the exchange :)

      • The 10.2.6 Update delivers enhanced functionality and improved reliability for the following applications, utilities, services, and technologies: Address Book, AppleScript, Bluetooth, Classic compatibility, Disk Copy, Disk Utility, Finder, Graphics, Help Viewer, iChat, Image Capture, IP Firewall, Kerberos, Mail, OpenGL, Print Center, Rendezvous and Sherlock. The update includes improvements to AFP, Web services, dial up connections over PPP, and Windows file services, as well as audio, disc recording, and
        • by JJSpreij ( 84475 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2003 @06:26PM (#5896426)
          The above list is not correct for the 10.2.6 update. Software Update just says:

          The 10.2.6 Update delivers enhanced functionality and improved reliability for the following applications, services and technologies: Address Book, Graphics, Printing, OpenGL, and PC Card and USB hub device compatibility.

          For detailed information on this Update, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n25448

          The too-long list in the parent is probably the full list of changes from 10.2 to 10.2.6

          • List is correct (Score:3, Insightful)

            by djupedal ( 584558 )
            Not everyone is sitting at 10.2.5.

            New computers on the shelf, as an example, are at 10.2.3. This means that 10.2.6 is small over 10.2.5 only...but if you buy a new computer today, or you haven't yet moved to 10.2.5, and you proceed to install 10.2.6, you will see a much longer list.

            What part of 'perhaps' in the parent caused you confusion?
            • by JJSpreij ( 84475 ) on Wednesday May 07, 2003 @03:24AM (#5899379)
              Not everyone is sitting at 10.2.5. New computers on the shelf, as an example, are at 10.2.3.

              Like I said: The too-long list in the parent is probably the full list of changes from 10.2 to 10.2.6. What part of 'probably' in the parent caused you confusion ;-?

              But seriously, in the context of this specific update that's just come out it's not very interesting (not to say misleading) to list all changes of earlier updates, attributing them all to 10.2.6.

              For the specific changes from 10.2.1 to 10.2.5, if that's what you're interested in, just check these Apple knowledgebase articles: 107036, 107140, 107263, 107362, 25405 (for instance 107036 [apple.com])

              I could make you a list of changes since 10.0, or even Mac OS 7.5.... that would look even more impressive. But it wouldn't help anybody much.
    • by JGski ( 537049 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2003 @05:14PM (#5895668) Journal
      :-) Yes, but if you are the one the kernel panic happens to... My Epson 1640U scanner started causing panics seemingly out of the blue about two weeks ago. I had update to 10.2.5 a while back but had brought the scanner out of the garage for a quick project two days before. The timing of both events obscured the cause pretty well. Since my Mac is my primary Let me forgot I know anything about computers and just get the work done machine, this gave me a fright. Did I install something evil? Did I run out of disk? Worst it would kernel panic again within 5-10 minutes of rebooting from a kernel panic. Fortunately I tracked it down to the USB from the logs and presumptively to the scanner. Shutting it off did the trick. I'm actually excited about this patch! :-)
      • I had it a bit worse than this - my Wacom tablet caused a kernel panic on every other boot, about 20 seconds after pressing the power button, while it was still on the grey screen. All fixed now!
        • The reason it stayed on the grey screen is because it was doing disk checks and stuff... that wasn't a bunch of kernel panics "every other boot"
          • It does, however, load the USB software while it's on that screen, and it would kernel panic regardless of wether or not it was properly shut down. Every other boot, I got the kernel panic screen instructing me to hold down the power key until the machine shut down. The next boot, it was fine. The only common denominator in the various configurations I tried was the USB tablet, and now that I've installed 10.2.6, it doesn't happen at all anymore. And even if fsck came up clean, it still did that kernel
  • Repair Permissions (Score:4, Informative)

    by mgaiman ( 151782 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2003 @04:16PM (#5895194) Homepage
    As always, it is a good idea to repair your permissions after an OS update (though this update isn't huge). It always seems to speed things up a little for me.

    Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility
    • by Anonymous Coward
      There is absolutely no way that repairing permissions could have any effect on performance. Impossible. Can't happen. If your permissions are broken, certain things won't work (like Sendmail, if you're running it), but they won't run slower.
      • by foniksonik ( 573572 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2003 @04:53PM (#5895502) Homepage Journal
        It also does a fsck -y to the system... and runs the rest of the standard UNIX maintenance jobs, like log rotation, etc. There is a slim chance you would see a noticeable difference.

        • by Anonymous Coward
          fsck -y is run every time the system is started up- it happens during the grey apple sprocket screen, unless of course, you have enabled file journalling on your system:

          sudo diskutil enableJournal /
    • by stefanlasiewski ( 63134 ) * <slashdot AT stefanco DOT com> on Tuesday May 06, 2003 @05:01PM (#5895559) Homepage Journal
      Two questions:

      - Why are the permisions not installed correctly in the first place?

      - Why is it called 'repair permissions', when it actually runs a slew of other tests like fsck?
      • Why is it called 'repair permissions', when it actually runs a slew of other tests like fsck?

        Because, due to the nature of the marketing of this product, it's made to be "Grandma Friendly".

        Doesn't "Repair Permissions" sound better than "I'm gonna do a whole bunch of shit to your hard drive right about now buddy. You sure you want to do this?"?

      • by Matty_ ( 74368 )
        What do you mean? There are two sets of options: Verify/Repair Permissions and Verify/Repair Disk.
      • by tbmaddux ( 145207 ) * on Wednesday May 07, 2003 @07:47AM (#5900139) Homepage Journal
        - Why are the permisions not installed correctly in the first place?
        - Why is it called 'repair permissions', when it actually runs a slew of other tests like fsck?
        Right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. The permissions/privs get mucked up when an installer or coder doesn't set them up correctly. "Repairing" them checks the existing permissions of your MacOS X install against a canonical listing of "the way permissions should be" that Disk Utility has.

        It's worth noting that that listing has changed, and if you repair permissions while booted from a MacOS X 10.2 CD it will make "fixes" that a later version of Disk Utility will fix back. Permissions war! Also, don't run the standalone "Repair Priviledges" program in MacOS X 10.2; that software was for 10.1.5 only.

        "Repair permissions" is one task that Disk Utility does, separate from verify/repair disk volumes (aka fsck) or formatting/partitioning. It also runs on the command line (type 'diskutil' for a list of options; it has no 'man' page).

        Lastly, IMO this is something of a "voodoo" fix. I have run many Software Updates and not seen broken permissions after the installation. Sometimes I do see them. It's never caused me much concern but I still do it. Better go run it now, bye!

    • I installed the update and after restart picked up an additional 250MB of disk space. I know this because I didn't have enough drive space (500MB) required for the system update as well as QT 6.2. I made just enough space to install the upadates and upon reboot had almost 800MB available.

      The only permissions out of whack were: ./System/Library/Filesystems/hfs.fs/hfs.uti, ./private/var/db/locate.database and ./private/var/run/utmp
      • What happened was that your swap files were removed when you rebooted. The system starts with one swap file (size 80 MB) and creates additional ones (also sized 80 MB) when needed. Unfortunately, the system doesn't remove any of these when the memory load is lower. The only (?) way to get rid of them is to reboot (a more permanent solution would be to buy more RAM :-). You can find the swap files in the /var/vm directory.

        --
        Stop the continental drift NOW!

    • My question is, if Disk Utility is updated in updates, why hasn't the version number of Disk Utility changed? Also, As I am understanding it, I should only repair permissions with the Disk Utility from the boot disk, not say from a Disk Utility from another disk as that utilty woould represent permissions from its own disk? I keep a partitioned second drive which I keep clean save for system updates and to run disk utilities. My question again is if I run permissions repair form the second drive on my main
  • Good... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by jnetsurfer ( 637137 )
    ...Hopefully this will fix my problems using my Rio and my Nikon. I had about a 50% chance I'd get a kernel panic when I tried to use either of them...
  • If anything, I have to give kudos to Apple for the size of the update. While this update doesn't have as much in it as previous updates, it's also far smaller, at under 7MB. For those of us less-fortunate in terms of broadband, this is much better than swallowing the "horse-pill" that previous updates have been.
  • Oh no! (Score:2, Funny)

    by Daleks ( 226923 )
    This update erased my HD! It messed up everything! Damn you Apple! I'm going to buy a PC tomorrow!

    I just thought I'd get that out of the way. Nothing to see here, move along.
    • Re:Oh no! (Score:3, Funny)

      by Jeremy Erwin ( 2054 )
      That's because there was a space character in your Hard drive's name. This is a known problem, and will be fixed shortly.
  • Okay, who's gonna be the guinea pig?
    • To quote a Mountain Dew commercial:

      We got hosed, Tommy. We got hosed.

      Anything that uses Keychain access is frigged up for me. Safari wouldn't load without freezing until I denied access to the Auto-Fill list. Mail won't quit. Internet Connect freezed trying to load the password for my VPN session.

      So far that's all I've seen.
  • ...and still no UT2k3 announcement out of Epic/MacSoft.

    WTF is taking so long guys? This game was supposed to be out by last DECEMBER.

  • by Anonymous Coward
    Ok, not really, but I figured I'd get it out of the way now because somebody is going to say it...happens every time with every point release.

    Anyway, 10.2.6 update went fine on my Ti Ghz. All systems go and everything normal. Of course, everything was fine before the update too. I notice no difference in casual use.
  • by macmurph ( 622189 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2003 @06:20PM (#5896360)
    10.2.5 really fixed my v.92 powerbook modem 'modem on hold' feature.

    In 10.2.3, when someone would call while Im online, I would get a message saying "an unknown caller is calling, answer, ignore". I would click answer, and I couldnt hear anyone half the time.

    In 10.2.4, if someone called while I was online, I would get a kernel panic and lose all of my work... ouch.

    In 10.2.5, when someone calls, I can actually click the answer button and talk to them every single time. Im really happy someone is working on this over at Apple.

    Im downloading 10.2.6 right now. We'll see what changes that brings. I hope it allows you to resume your connection from the modem menuling. Im tired of digging around for the resume dialog behind all of my windows. I also would love if it put downloads on hold... when Im downloading something, it usually just kicks me offline when someone calls.

    And no resumable downloads in Camino... whats up with that?
  • by Anonymous Coward
    My guess is that they are going to make these real some upgrades until panther.

    That way they can be on 10.2.9 right before panther comes out, and it won't confuse the artsy people that use macs.

  • Has anyone had problems viewing your iPod in iTunes 4 after the update has run? I tried restoring the iPod to factory settings to see if that changed anything but I still do not see anything in iTunes 4 although I see it appear on the desktop and can use it as a firewire hard drive. I can also use third party iPod transfer programs.
    • Re:iPod and iTunes4 (Score:3, Informative)

      by stego ( 146071 )
      I had this problem right after I installed iT4. I had to delete the installed iPod drived (? kext ??) and use the iT4 installer to re-install the driver. Easy enough once I figured it out, but it took a few hours to get there -- I'm not used to having to think about these things... The message boards in the Apple support section had a number of people experienceing thhis and were a pretty good help.
  • Okay, so disc burning from the finder is nice, right? It's easy to do, and it doesn't take over your computer while you do it, and it's just nice not to have to use another program. Same with iTunes, great to be able to burn in your playlist order and all that.

    The only problem is that to do this, you need to have a supported drive. Huge bummer. They hardly ever add more compatible drives to the list.

    My only question is, why don't they go the normal route and allow companies to make drivers for the finder/
    • by Paladeen ( 8688 ) on Wednesday May 07, 2003 @03:07AM (#5899317)
      Well, have you taken a look at xlr8yourmac.com [xlr8yourmac.com]?

      They happen to have a huge drive compatibility database which lists tons of drives people have managed to get to work with Finder disk burning and iTunes by modifying configuration files. I have an *officially unsupported* Samsung 32x CD-R/DVD which now works fine with both, thanks to some minor tweaking.

      I prefer Toast for these functions, but I didn't like the *Unsupported* label I saw by my drive in the System Profiler.

    • by Andre Breton ( 605694 ) on Wednesday May 07, 2003 @03:40AM (#5899437)
      "The only problem is that to do this, you need to have a supported drive."

      Take a look at /System/Library/Frameworks/DiscRecording.framework /Versions/A/Resources/DevicePlugIns/

      I have an unsupported Samsung CD-RW. I just opened the SamsungCDR.device-plugin with an hex editor and changed the model description I found there to my model. Use the model description that Toast shows or use any UNIX tool you like.

      Make a backup of the changed file, bcz with some system updates it got reset.
  • by Alrescha ( 50745 ) on Wednesday May 07, 2003 @09:35AM (#5900885)
    A previous Apple update fixed a DNS bug where large DNS reponses (typically from Akamai-based sites) would get dropped. The most notable victim was Apple itself.

    10.2.6 appears to re-introduce this bug, making Safari pretty much useless for me.

    Did anyone else notice this un-fix?

    A.
    • by Xenex ( 97062 ) * <xenex@@@opinionstick...com> on Wednesday May 07, 2003 @11:58AM (#5902237) Journal
      SafariNoTimeout [unsanity.com] is a little utility that removes the 60 second connection timeout from Safari.

      Without it on my dial-up connection, Safari is virtually useless while downloading and/or with a few tabs loading at once.

      It should make Safari useful again for you. It sure did for me.
      • hear hear. notimeout is to my mind essential for dialup folk. course, Cox should be out sometime today to turn on my cable connection and I'll be able to get on with life again.
  • by gsfprez ( 27403 ) on Wednesday May 07, 2003 @03:16PM (#5904601)
    in 10.2.4, i could connect to the internet via GPRS on my TMobile t68i without incident.

    for the last 3 weeks with 10.2.5, i couldn't connect often evne after 3-5 attempts. When i did connect, it would often not hold for more than a minute. I'm way behind on my data allowence for the month on my account. :-)

    10.2.6, i'm back to 10.2.4 days.. i can keep the connection up as long as I like... and should pummel my 10 megs in a day or two now.

    i'm using my AlBook 12" on my work desk with my t68i on my desk in the desk stand charger in the exact same position for all 3 software revs. I'm sure its the software, and not the phone or computer.
  • by Anonymous Coward
    I wonder if it fixes the ibook slow burning issue...

    http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/ibook_slow_c o mb o_drive.html

    http://forums.macnn.com/search.php?s=a8d165af82f 13 7b4966564255d42a84e&action=showresults&searchid=24 3238&sortby=&sortorder=

    there is some scary speculation that it's an issue with the IDE bus itself and that no patch will ever be able to fix it. I don't remember seeing this come up on /. yet - anyone ehere had this problem??
  • after i got the 10.2.6 update on my ibook it ran fine, until i let os 9 check the disk, now findre in X uses 50 percdent cpu. I ran hardwrae tests - ok, fsck - ok, still, then i reinstalled 10.2.1 system folder, still does it, update again to 10.2.6 stull doing it. Called apple, costs $50 to talk to someone. Anyone run intoi this? I moight just back up data and erase and reinstall.Thanx for any help

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