Apple Releases Beta 3 of X11 58
maxentius writes "Apple says the just released beta of X11 adds: pseudocolor (8-bit) visual plane support; option to quit X11 without presenting warning dialog; Command-Q keyboard shortcut to quit X11; Command-, to bring up preferences dialog; keyboard mappings with dead keys fixed; linking against libGL no longer results with multiple definitions of glGetColorTableEXT; locked files left behind in /tmp no longer block non-admin users from starting X11; windows can be resized by user to any size and not be limited by the Dock's height; dragging remotely hosted windows no longer causes crash; hardware accelerated scrolling in 16 bit mode now works; X server no longer crashes if application tried to retrieve data back from the framebuffer using XGetImage; bug fixes and other feature enhancements."
How much longer are we going to get betas? (Score:-1, Flamebait)
I'd go with "a good sign of progression" myself (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:How much longer are we going to get betas? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:How much longer are we going to get betas? (Score:3, Insightful)
Just my 2 cents...
Re:How much longer are we going to get betas? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:How much longer are we going to get betas? (Score:4, Insightful)
As far as Safari and X11 go, these are built upon open source, and while they don't have to realease to the public for debugging, it is the norm.
first post V3.o (Score:-1, Offtopic)
Re:first post V3.o (Score:-1, Troll)
fp (Score:-1, Offtopic)
Re: fp (Score:0, Offtopic)
Re: fp (Score:0)
Dear Apple (Score:-1, Troll)
I am a homosexual. I bought an Apple computer because of its well earned reputation for being "the" gay computer. Since I have become an Apple owner, I have been exposed to a whole new world of gay friends. It is really a pleasure to meet and compute with other homos such as myself. I plan on using my new Apple computer as a way to entice and recruit young schoolboys into the homosexual lifestyle; it would be so helpful if you could produce more software which would appeal to young boys. Thanks in advance.
with much gayness,
Father Randy "Pudge" O'Day, S.J.
Re: Dear Apple (Score:-1, Offtopic)
Re: Dear Apple (Score:-1, Offtopic)
Re:Dear Apple (Score:-1, Flamebait)
Besides, how do you account for the gay man's superior sense of style?
And, how do you account for proving this point by cutting-and-pasting the same woefully pathetic incendiary letter on every single goddamned Apple post?
How, AC, do you reconcile the fact that you are somehow *threatened* by what is (by your own admission) the Mac's superior technology? How do you respond to that without looking for all the world like Jackass Prime?
Answer: you don't.
Dear Father O'Day (Score:-1, Troll)
Thanks for your letter. Being Catholic myself, I know exactly what you're talking about! It has always been our plan here at Apple Computer Inc to revolutionize personal computing with our high-quality and highly gay products.
I'm happy to answer your letter by letting you know that YES we will be releasing an entire hLife ("homo-life") software line. You'll be able to recognize it in stores by the small stylized logo depicting a large cock entering a tight anus with an Apple logo on it. ("Suddenly it all comes together" indeed!).
Anyway, I hope you and other members of our community will join us on our mission, and purchase the exciting new hLife boxed set. Only the boxed set comes with translucent cock rings!
Sincerely,
Harry Rodman
Vice-president
Homosexual Liaison Services
Apple Computer, Inc.
Quit without warning: how? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Quit without warning: how? (Score:4, Informative)
Added an option to quit X11 without presenting warning dialog : "defaults write com.apple.x11 no_quit_alert true". See man page for Xquartz for more details.
Re:Quit without warning: how? (Score:5, Informative)
From the FAQ:
And from the man XQuartz page:jeez (Score:-1, Flamebait)
Re:jeez (Score:1, Funny)
Re:jeez (Score:0)
Its "ecks eleven". Not supposed to be roman numerals.
Re:jeez (Score:0)
Re:jeez (Score:0)
What are the "killer" X11 apps I should have (Score:3, Interesting)
I have already used fink to install Bluefish (a html editor), XMMS (mp3 player), and tkcvs (cvs client).
and some games, scorched earth, etc.
anyone have any good ideas of other stuff that I should be running on my laptop or desktop g4s
Re:What are the "killer" X11 apps I should have (Score:4, Funny)
Re:What are the "killer" X11 apps I should have (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:What are the "killer" X11 apps I should have (Score:5, Informative)
But, you'll definately want to grab LyX. Then, wonder off and get TeXShop and start churning out some TeX to amaze your friends with your superfine equation-writing sk1llz.
Re:What are the "killer" X11 apps I should have (Score:2, Informative)
TeXShop runs just fine without X11
Re:What are the "killer" X11 apps I should have (Score:0)
ghostview, rasmol, texmac ,gimp, xemacs, tex2im (Score:3, Informative)
rasmol is the workhorse molecular graphics program
texmac is TeX with a really nice realtime wysiwyg, pallete and menu driven setup.
gimp is the Gnu answer to photoshop. about as powerful though a little less freindly and fast.
tex2im turns TeX equations into graphics. I use this with Keynote as an equation creator. (there are some other solutions too). well its not an X app but the other programs that do this are.
Re:ghostview, rasmol, texmac ,gimp, xemacs, tex2im (Score:1)
Mega-dittoes on the GIMP. The GIMP is the only image editing app I have on my powerbook and it's the only one I need. (iPhoto doesn't really count and neither does PixelNhance, although it is a cool app) I make a lot of original tiled wallpapers with it, but I also use it to recompress images for the web.
iPhoto exports massive files, and there's nothing more annoying than a webpage with massive graphics. The compression preview makes it a cinch to find the perfect balance of quality and compression, although for some reason it won't tell me the actual size in KB (like it claims it should be doing).
Definitely get the GIMP.
Gimp Is Not Photoshop (Score:2)
Please. Gimp is a damn nice piece of work, especially since it's Free, but never Never NEVER say that it's "about as powerful" as Photoshop. Any graphics/design/DTP/etc professional can tell you several dozen ways that you're wrong.
For an amateur user who generates maybe handful of designs per month, Gimp is fine once you cover the learning curve. It's not Photoshop, but it doesn't need to be, so don't lie about it.
Re:What are the "killer" X11 apps I should have (Score:0)
Re:What are the "killer" X11 apps I should have (Score:2, Informative)
-- shayborg
Cool! (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Cool! (Score:0)
Hardware Accelerated XDarwin coming (Score:2, Informative)
The last XDarwin would run KDE 3.0.7 just fine, but the Apple beta would freeze the whole machine when I ran it... that's the primary reason I want X11 (and for Gimp...)
I'm dowloading the new Apple beta now...
dochood
Still randomly quits... (Score:1)
It doesn't seem to matter which app I launch, and whether X11 is in the foreground or not, or hidden or not, during the launching. Nor does it quit every time another app is launched - just a fraction of the time. I'm in the habit now of launching every conceivable app I can think of that I might need prior to starting X11. Needless to say, that's sub-optimal. Maybe the next beta?
Re:Still randomly quits... (Score:3, Interesting)
I need to send the crash log over to those folks so they can narrow down what was happening.
Re:Still randomly quits... (Score:2)
The 'RJ Reynolds' of the Mac world... (you pay them to give your system cancer)
'Haven't used a "haxie" since 10.0. Which ones were you using?
Re:Still randomly quits... (Score:0)
Re:Still randomly quits... (Score:2)
The Apple menu of old, and not so old (Score:1)
From my reading of Unsanity's website, FruitMenu contains AE anyway, so deep-sixing AE probably isn't enough. I also use FruitMenu - and another app, ASM (which enables an app switching menu), as well. They make OS X into... what it should be, IMHO. It's going to be harder for me to give them up.
The first Mac OS X Server, nee Rhapsody, contained a fully functional Apple menu - one that was actually more easily customizable than in any Classic Mac OS. I, for one, lament how this very useful yet unobtrusive tool has been enervated. If anyone hasn't seen MOSXS/Rhapsody, here are two screenshots highlighting the Apple menu:
Apple menu dropped down [mac.com]
Customizing the Apple menu [mac.com]
Re:Hardware Accelerated XDarwin coming (Score:0)
And isn't the apple one hardware accelerated already?!
Cocksmokers!
Fink Support (Score:2, Informative)
Having run into this last night, please be aware that Fink's system-xfree86 package doesn't support Apple X11 0.3 yet. I'm sure that support will come soon, but it was awfully disconcerting pulling a powerbook out of its box, grabbing X11, the SDK, and Fink, and watching it mysteriously fail.
Re:Fink Support (Score:1)
Re:Fink Support (Score:1)
Re:Fink Support (Score:1)
"It is recommended that all Fink users who are using Apple X11 upgrade. A new version of the system-xfree86 package has been released to unstable that takes the new Apple X11 into account. It should be appearing in stable shortly. "
Full-screen mode? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Full-screen mode? (Score:0)
i've never had any problem with windowmaker. are you saying the clip is covered up with the menubar? I span two monitors, with windowmaker showing up in one, the other looking just like the regular apple desktop. but I've also run them together on one monitor without problems. you just need to move your wm dock and clip to more convenient locations
Re:Full-screen mode? (Score:1)
Not really the point though. The question was can you run it full screen and the answer is no. Apple's X11 will only run rootless. If you want full screen you need to use the XDarwin port of XFree86. It doesn't use any hardware acceleration for rendering so it is a lot slower than Apple's X11 but it can be run fullscreen or rootless. You can even kill the OSX window server and start XDarwin from a console login which is how you'd get a GUI going if you just installed Darwin rather than OSX.
Re:Full-screen mode? (Score:1)
Aqua Apps in X11 (Score:1)
thanks in advance
Re:Aqua Apps in X11 (Score:1)
But to answer your question, no, you can't make OS X applications use your X window manager.
But does it have applescript support? (Score:3, Interesting)
I tried some quick applescript things but they didn't work.
Re: Xemacs for OS X (Score:1)
If that link doesn't work, there are other mirrors on OSXGNU's website [osxgnu.org].
Re:But does it have applescript support? (Score:1)