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iLife Apps Available for Download 61

Posted by pudge from the just-in-time dept.
gsfprez writes "iMovie 3.0.1 and iPhoto 2.0 are available for download. iTunes 3 has been out for a while, and iDVD 3 is only available from your friendly neighborhood Apple Store or the virtual one." They are also available via Software Update, and Air Mapster writes "Those of us who ssh in from work/elsewhere can do 'sudo softwareupdate iMovie-3.0.1' and 'sudo softwareupdate iPhoto-2.0' to have them ready when we get home."
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  • Amazing (Score:2, Funny)

    by Zelet ( 515452 )
    I saw these at Macworld for the first time and I am truely amazed. I am a born and raised PC user but I recently switched to Mac because of MS's craptastic doings - I tried Linux but it wasn't pretty enough. Plus, why use Linux when you can get a *nix box with OS X and still have the best GUI and best app support out there? Anyway - these products are so far beyond anything that a PC vendor has available. You couldn't pay (under $500) for a better product on the PC platform. This really is an awesome set of apps.

    • Re:Amazing (Score:1, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Yes the Apple world is the place to be. Its a secret that is getting out which is good. I am amazed at the new enhance feature in iPhoto. This is not just a contrast and brightness adjuster. One thing they need to do in the future is have a way to apply a percentage of the effect or fade the effect.
    • But oddly you can pay $300 [apple.com] for a "better" product [apple.com] on the Mac.
    • This is the funniest troll I've read in weeks

  • Wait! (Score:4, Funny)

    by goombah99 ( 560566 ) on Friday January 31, 2003 @05:08PM (#5199115)
    Wait dont slash dot the site yet. I'm trying to download mine and its going too slowly!

    • Re:Wait! (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Numeric ( 22250 )
      I think the relative number of Slashdot users using OS X is only a small percentage therefore probably no slashdot effect.

    • Re:Wait! (Score:3, Informative)

      by thenightfly42 ( 166359 )
      I think they own a large chunk of Akamai, which spreads out the information over a large net. Or something like that. Anyway, it's hard to bring them down.

      • Re:Wait! (Score:3, Informative)

        by Gogo Dodo ( 129808 )
        According to Apple's annual report, they own 2.9 million shares of Akamai as of Sept. 2002. That's about 2.5% of the company.

        I'm sure when Apple calls, they jump right to the front of the line. :-)

  • Get an iLife (Score:5, Funny)

    by PetWolverine ( 638111 ) on Friday January 31, 2003 @05:17PM (#5199235) Journal
    SSH into your computer at home from work and use Software Update remotely so the new stuff is ready for you when you get home?

    Come on...even for /., that's just...just...

    Hmmm...actually, it's not a bad idea...

    • Re:Get an iLife (Score:3, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward
      hey, you gotta have *something* waiting for you when you get home, right?
    • via Webmin and command shell...issue this command to check for updates, and to obtain the item name(s).

      > softwareupdate

      Software Update Tool
      Copyright 2002 Apple Computer, Inc.

      Software Update found the following new or updated software:

      1. - iMovie-3.0.1 iMovie (3.0.1), 86530K - iPhoto-2.0 iPhoto (2.0), 34100K
      To install an update, run this tool with the item name as an argument.
      ..........e.g. 'softwareupdate ...'

      >softwareupdate iMovie-3.0.1

      This will start the process, and all you have to do is wait to see if you are prompted to restart. Given the size of these two, it will naturally take some time depending on your setup, etc. I use this method from the office, as a routine, so that everything is ready when I get home. Nice to see it mentioned along with the update notice. Now to get Apple to announce the item names on their support pages...

  • XL. (Score:1, Informative)

    by freedom_leffo ( 605662 )
    Whoa! Those updates are huge!

    iMovie 3.0.1 - 84,5MB
    iPhoto 2.0 - 33,3MB

    That's nearly 120MB to download..

    • Re:XL. (Score:5, Funny)

      by Big Sean O ( 317186 ) on Friday January 31, 2003 @06:38PM (#5200021)
      Which is why Apple is selling iLife on CD. Plus, you get iDVD, which I'm told is not unsubstantial either.

      Those poor saps using dialup are the ones I feel for. What is 120 MB at 56K? Two days or sumthin'?

      I remember my first modem: 1200 baud. I recall being able to read BBS messages faster than the modem could transmit. Uphill... Both ways... and WE LIKED IT!
      • iDVD 2.1 was 1.07 GB.... iLife is provided on a DVD. Bit of a long download, even on dsl.

        Yeah, my first modem was 300 bps. Almost 40 bytes per second! Do other stuff while you read downloading text = multitasking!
      • I remember my first modem: 1200 baud. I recall being able to read BBS messages faster than the modem could transmit. Uphill... Both ways... and WE LIKED IT!

        Fiddle-de-fee! You young whippersnappers always had it the easy way. In my day we had none of your fancy pants 1200 baud modems. Nosiree, we had punchcards and mechanical teletypes. Phone lines, bah! It is a very little known fact, but David Rhodes first sent his solicitation letters via carrier pigeon! A very dirty business, that. But we LIKED it!

        Next week, if you're good, I'll tell you how we used to fashion inodes of out chert. Now, run along now...

    • Re:XL. (Score:1)

      by panZ ( 67763 )
      ...and iPhoto installed is some 80MB! However most of this is language "lproj" files. Here is my solution:

      find / \! -name "English.lproj" -name "*.lproj" -type d -exec rm -r -- {} \;

      Clean our all your folders... or just run it on the iPhoto app and reduce its size by a whopping 80%! Even leaving english, spanish and norwegian on my laptop and removing the rest saves hundreds of megs. I hope that helps ya'.

  • Impressive (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward
    I'm pretty stunned. iMovie works fluidly well, and doesn't feel like it's losing anything despite running on a pretty basic mac, a G3/350.

    I don't have a use for iPhoto personally, but that's a slick-arse interface. Kudos to Apple for these two

  • Details iMovie3 ~ iPhoto 2 (Score:5, Informative)

    by djupedal ( 584558 ) on Friday January 31, 2003 @06:51PM (#5200110)
    New in iMovie 3.0.1
    >>
    New resizeable window; Liquid Timeline editing interface
    Custom volume control for clips, music and sound effects
    Ken Burns effect for still photos
    Stunning sound effects from Skywalker Sound
    Pro-quality video effects and titles
    DVD chapter markers
    Send movies to iDVD with one click
    Media browsers let you use your iTunes music and iPhoto pictures

    =======

    New in iPhoto 2
    >>
    Make photos picture-perfect with one click of the Enhance button.
    Eliminate unwanted blemishes with the new Retouch brush.
    Archive photos to CD or DVD for easy organization and safekeeping.
    Create slideshows complete with soundtracks from iTunes.
    Burn slideshow DVDs with a click of the iDVD button.*
    Email photos from iPhoto using your favorite email application.
    Use the new printing templates to get the most from your expensive photo
    paper.
    Unlimited keywords help keep your photos organized.
    Retrieve accidentally deleted images from the new iPhoto Trash.

    *Requires Apple SuperDrive

  • Speaking of software update... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by nsayer ( 86181 ) <`moc.ufk' `ta' `reyasn'> on Friday January 31, 2003 @06:55PM (#5200138) Homepage
    One thing I read recently (perhaps here?) about softwareupdate was that Apple was going to release an SDK for softwareupdate so that third parties could use it as a mechanism to keep users up-to-date.

    I think that is fantastic.
    • I absolutely am crazy about software update. I use it with my servers (Xserves) and generally there's an update out before I even know there's a security hole needing a patch. We have not even had to hire a professional sysadmin. Just little old me and the mac admin tools keep me in good shape. I still have not figured out how to set up Ldap or raid on my linux boxes but it's a two-click snap on the macs.

      With fink I can keep my unix apps up to date, and not worry about a bunch of cruft filling up my /usr/bin and /lib (one reason I hate gnu-darwin). And software update keeps my apples apps up to date.

      but what I really wish I had was something to keep my MS apps up todate. after all 99.9% of all the security holes are in those. That's one reason I adopt apple apps every time they emit a new one (safari means I can get rid of IE, keynote means I can get rid of powerpoint). (I wonder if keynote will use software update?)

      But the thing I worry about is that software update (and fink update) are barn door sized security holes. I trust apple not to screw up. And I weakly trust fink project. But if third party apps were allowed to use software update I'd be a little bit worried about getting trojaned.

      I think maybe they need to have some sort of MD5 registry hosted by apple if they want to let third parties use this mechanism.

      • I think maybe they need to have some sort of MD5 registry hosted by apple if they want to let third parties use this mechanism.

        I definitely agree with you there.
      • But they have done 3rd party apps through Su already.

        There was SSH, Apache, and StuffIt updates done through SU. (Maybe it wasn't StuffIt maybe it was something like StuffIt... Zip something?)
        • True but the specific cases you name (SSH, Stuffit, Apache third party apps) were all security hole fixes. So you can believe these were scrutinized out the wazoo. I'm not opposed to that. But contrast that with the lastest update of imovie 3. that was just a pure update. if we had 3rd party vendors doing that, it would be ripe for exploitation and the result would be root level acces to every mac in the world in a matter of a week. not somthing to take lightly.
      • i seem to recall apple authenticating via some type of encrypted source but for all I know it could just be:

        "You there?"....."Yeah"....."Are you the guy from Apple?"....."....yeah"....."ok, gimme the stuff"
      • " I think maybe they need to have some sort of MD5 registry hosted by apple if they want to let third parties use this mechanism."

        They already do this, software update has some kind of checksum. Also, you can DL the file off Apple.com and checksum it yourself to make sure.

  • iMovie.. Why 82MB? Anwer + New questions... (Score:3, Informative)

    by henele ( 574362 ) on Friday January 31, 2003 @07:12PM (#5200244) Homepage
    Well, the app size in Finder is 46MB, then in /Library/iMovie/Documentation there is 60MB of manuals and lessons in PDFs in a number of different languages (no sample .DV stuff inflating the download).

    If they wanted to they could offer smaller, country specific versions (which they might already do)...

    Also, it wasn't in a .DMG format.. I thought that was the new OS X way of doing things..
    • Also, it wasn't in a .DMG format.. I thought that was the new OS X way of doing things.
      It is, but when you need to put multiple files (such as the documentation you mentioned) into different directories an installer is easier and more appropriate.
      • It is, but when you need to put multiple files (such as the documentation you mentioned) into different directories an installer is easier and more appropriate.

        Bingo. Whilst I'm sure the mentioned Software Update install route is smooth, I downloaded it with Safari which also helped me as much as it could (decoding file and opening installer), which I do think is a nice feature...

  • The iLife CD with all three is $14.95 special intro education price, so I opted for the snailmail solution.
    Have them installed when I get home? Like I have time to use them, anyway ....
  • iPhoto Library Manager [mac.com] is a freeware utility authored by Brian Webster [mac.com] that has been popular among iPhoto 1.x users. iPhoto 1.x had performance issues with > 1000 or so photos, which is not a very large collection. iPhoto Library Manager allows one to partition a large collection into smaller swappable "libraries" with better performance.

    iPhoto 2 uses a different storage format than iPhoto 1.x used.

    As of 1/31/03 Brian is testing iPhoto Library Manager for compatibility with iPhoto 2. He recommends LM users delay installing iPhoto 2 until he reports on his test results in a "few days".

    I am sure we will soon hear if iPhoto 2 has cured iPhoto 1.x's performance and scaling problems. Since iPhoto 2 does allow mini-album exports, better performance would remove the need for iPhoto Library Manager. Consolidating those disparate libraries may be interesting, however.

    (I'd love to hear why iPhoto 1.x scales so very poorly. I do know that a bug that causes iPhoto to "forget" to use the more efficient library outline/roll view doesn't help.)

    john

    • I made sure my main library was "default," then installed iPhoto2.0. It installed fine, no reboot. I opened it and got a needless intro screen, and then after a few seconds, a window telling me I had to change the format of my picture folder. (1200 shots, most jpgs), fine, no rejects, one minute maybe. Then I quit the app, started iPLM1.01, changed libraries, and restarted iPhoto. Same sequence, no problem, took longer because the library was bigger.

      But who knows. Perhaps the world will explode.

      1 ghz quicksilver dualie

  • I'm waiting for iWanker (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 31, 2003 @10:34PM (#5201419)
    If Apple manages to pull it off.

  • iMovie annoyance (Score:3, Informative)

    by Steve Cowan ( 525271 ) on Saturday February 01, 2003 @01:31AM (#5202098) Journal
    Well I have updated my iMovie and taken the new one for a whirl...

    I was initially excited to hear about the resizeable window, because the previous (full screen) iMovie just looked stupid at resolutions above 1024 x 768. Big voids of space between the three main elements (the timeline, the bin, the viewer) just made using higher screen resolutions a pain, so I would always scale down my screen just to run iMovie.

    I figured the resizeable window would be great, but when I make it fill my screen, the viewer gets bigger while the clip bin and the timeline don't expand at all. I would really like to see it expand so that you could see more thumbnails without having to scroll, but instead you just get a GIANT preview screen.

    I find the single-window nature of iMovie to be very limiting. I know, I know, it's a consumer app, it's supposed to be very simple for very simple people, but I was always under the impression power is supposed to lurk behind the simplicity for those who need it.

    If Apple is going to keep iMovie all in one window, they should make the panes between the screen elements moveable as well, so that I can have a bigger bin when I need it, and then make it small at my whim so I can watch a bigger preview.

  • iDVD and external drives (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward
    iDVD requires an internal DVD burner to install/run. This was clearly done in order to sell new Apple HW, fair enough. Part of the hoped-for trade off for charging for iDVD was support for external drives, like DVD Studio Pro. But now that they're charging us$50, I say they're fair game for a bit of, er, adaptation....
    • This'll be small comfort, I'm sure, but the SuperDrive is a Pioneer DVD-R/RW drive that makes fairly regular discount appearances [dealmac.com] under CenDyne and a couple of other brand names. I haven't tried this yet (but my birthday's coming up, and as long as I'm dreaming, God, I would also like a pony), but it is documented [ezboard.com] that if you install the drive in your G4 tower, iDVD will be none the wiser that you didn't get it at the factory.
  • In iMovie, the link to iTunes is grayed out. I can't bring any of the music from there to the movie without just importing them. Anyone else? Brett
  • I installed both with SoftwareUpdate shortly after they came out and have been playing with both since. Here's a few thoughts/problems I've had:
    • iPhoto 2 is much faster. I'm using an iBook 600 and have about 1250 ~1.2mb jpegs in iPhoto. Moving back and forth between photos is actually instantaneous now, rather than a half second pause followed by a unfocused view of the image followed by another half second pause and then the image itself. Starting and quitting the app itself seemed to best 1.x by at least a couple seconds each.
    • The iPhoto interface is much cleaner. It always seemed to me that the 'Export' button and panel could be eliminated in iPhoto, and with the release of 2.0, it seems I was right.
    • iMovie 3 is only slightly improved from my perspective. The only problem I had with 2.x was how it would take over the whole screen. Now it looks and behaves like any other app. Other than that, the interface does look much more refined and the app itself just feels faster (when exporting, mainly).
    • The only problem I've had with either is with sound in iMovie. I opened a project I created with iMovie 2 and although each clip shows up, when I try to play any of them, I get a rather loud and annoying tone played rather than the sound itself. This problem seems to be related to an incompatibility between the Formac Studio DV converter box I used to import the clips and iMovie 3 itself. Several people are having this problem, so I imagine it will be fixed fairly shortly. Until then, I've used a workaround posted on the Apple discussion boards.
    All in all, a worthwhile upgrade (particularly once the glaring problem with iMovie is fixed).

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